NU/OU - F'ing Hillbillies vs. F'ing Children of the Corn

At Large · Post by **At Large** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:47 am

You'd think with all of the bad blood that was going on last season in this here forum over the F'ing Hillbillies incident, that we'd have more to say about this game. As it stands, this is the first time since 1961 that both teams have entered this game unranked (OU won that last meeting in Lincoln). It's kind of nice to have both teams unranked. It's just one less thing for people to bitch about here.

My God. You'd think that NU was supposed to win the Big 12 the way people have been carrying on the loss to Missouri. Yes, it was ugly. Well if it was pretty ugly if you consider no line protection, dropped passes, no running game, procedure penalties and a defensive game plan that seemed to be borrowed from Madden 96 on the Super NES as pretty ugly. It was drop-dead drunk, fallen on the floor with peanuts all over your face and waking up next to a monster ugly.

Yes, Nebraska took some huge steps backward, but I have to think that NU can't have the same gameplay mistakes two weeks in a row.

Nebraska has some strengths behind it
- Zac Taylor is from Norman so I'm sure he wants to perform well.
- The game is in Lincoln
- They're honoring the 95 (Greatest NU team ever) team with former players and coaches in attendance.
- Oh yeah, Oklahoma isn't doing so hot this year (not that we can count on that)

I need to wrap this up because the wife is starting to complain, but I think Nebraska wins this one because on the intangibles and also because OU's QB is not Brad Smith, who ran at will against NU.

NU 24, OU 20

campinfool · Post by **campinfool** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:57 am

It just seems hard for anyone outside of those 2 states to really get up for this one. This game seems to have as much hype and title implications as a Iowa State- Baylor game usually does. It is strange how the migthy have fallen. Nebraska has really struggled since Solich mistakenly gotten the ax IMHO. I really don't think Calahan can bring success to this school as a head coach. He just doesn't look "Nebraskan" the same way Mackovic did not look "Texan". He may get them bowl ready, but the bowls he'll qualify for are the kind to get coaches fired in that state. Oklahoma on the other hand has floored me this season. Sure they lost a shit load of starters but one would think a program of that caliper with the highly regarded recruits could reload and look at least decent. This one may be ugly, but at the same time I can't help but snicker at their misfortunes.

NEB 15
OU 10

Waz · Post by **Waz** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:01 am

campinfool wrote: but at the same time I can't help but snicker at their misfortunes.

of course not, because you are a bandwagoning bitch

campinfool · Post by **campinfool** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:21 am

I'm really from Texas. Do you want to see my Resident Alien Card Mofo?

DiT · Post by **DiT** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:50 am

Bomar will have 2x as many turnovers as Nebraska will have touchdowns.

DiT · Post by **DiT** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:22 am

Believe the Heupel wrote:
diT wrote:Bomar will have 2x as many turnovers as Nebraska will have touchdowns.
Good thing Nebraska's going to be shut out then.

I admire your optimism however I'd rather see Brandon Daniels running the option:(

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan · Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:15 am

Waz, who showed up right about the same time, if not later, during OU's 2000 title run wrote:
campinfool wrote: but at the same time I can't help but snicker at their misfortunes.

of course not, because you are a bandwagoning bitch

:roll:

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:37 am

I'd call this one a toss-up. Neither team has been consistent. Like I said on the other thread I hope we trash the 3-4 and come out firing at Bomar in our traditional 4-3. We don't cover worth piss so we have to get pressure and rattle the rookie. On O we need to be patient with the run and I'd like to see us go long more in the passing game. Hopefully one of our faster wr's is healthy enough to go.

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:31 pm

Nerbaska 24
OU 13

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:46 pm

Nebraska fans, an honest question:

Do you like Callahan, or more importantly, do you think he is good enough to be the head coach at Nebraska? Or do you see him starting the wheels in motion to move to a passing offense?

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:00 pm

Killian wrote:Nebraska fans, an honest question:

Do you like Callahan, or more importantly, do you think he is good enough to be the head coach at Nebraska? Or do you see him starting the wheels in motion to move to a passing offense?

not officially a Nebraska fan but i've seen them on TV against Pitt, ISU, Missouri.....and i thought they showed a decent amount of progress in the first two (though struggled in the red zone). but, the Missouri game seemed a big step back--which i found confusing. Taylor made some damned good throws in the ISU game. he's not Matty Leinart but he's solid enough. and has the ability to go to his 2nd or 3rd read (which Dailey really coulnd't do and was simply not his game). still, not sure why NU couldn't run the ball *at all* against a pretty average MU D. i like Ross, he's a good back. reminds me a little of OU's mid 90's back Jerald Moore.

i don't think this chapter of the OU-NU series will be a beauty contest.

Cornhusker · Post by **Cornhusker** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:38 am

Killian wrote:Nebraska fans, an honest question:

Do you like Callahan, or more importantly, do you think he is good enough to be the head coach at Nebraska?

Do I like him? not really, he's an outsider that doesn't know anything about NU's tradition. Not yet anyway. He seems like a west coast hustler. Times change but I can't warm to a guy that couldn't understand Okie fan throwing oranges in Norman last year when he said he'd studied NU history. He didn't pay attention to chapter 5 of NU - OU history 101.

Do I think he's good enough to be a head coach at NU?

Tough to make that call just yet....he's gotta get his recruits in place and realistically he needs 3 classes to develope and teach. The way I see it, he seems stubborn in that he's force feeding his offense on guys that don't have the talent to run it. On the other hand, he has to establish his character and beliefs in order to show recruits this is what he wants to do. If he's game planning doesn't match talent he's still drawing mulligans from NU fan but only until NU fan realizes " OK, here's your guys, you had 3 years to teach them, give me a conference crown or be playing to the wire with the south champ."
If he doesn't show significant improvement with his guys..we will recognize it soon. You can't fool NU fan when it comes to what this state hangs it hat on. We've seen championship football for too long.
Post 2007...you win, and dominate the north, or you leave. And take Pederson with you.

Or do you see him starting the wheels in motion to move to a passing offense?

No doubt, that's his plan. He can say what he wants about running the ball, but his recruiting targets say otherwise. A big mistake in Nebraska. I think his arrogance gets in they way in that he feels he can win quickly throwing in the college game and getting a look in the NFL for his next gig.
You don't run...you don't win, college or otherwise.
Callahan should have force feed the ball down Missouri's throat and kept Smith on the sidelines but he didn't. He threw early and often and once MU scored at will with Smith, he had no patience to play catch-up running the ball. MU tee'd off and we looked like Florida playing Nebraska in 1995. And THAT pissed me off.
This game was the worst coaching job I've ever seen from an NU staff.
That dates back to 1963.

Snake · Post by **Snake** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:44 am

campinfool wrote:It just seems hard for anyone outside of those 2 states to really get up for this one. This game seems to have as much hype and title implications as a Iowa State- Baylor game usually does. It is strange how the migthy have fallen. Nebraska has really struggled since Solich mistakenly gotten the ax IMHO. I really don't think Calahan can bring success to this school as a head coach. He just doesn't look "Nebraskan" the same way Mackovic did not look "Texan". He may get them bowl ready, but the bowls he'll qualify for are the kind to get coaches fired in that state. Oklahoma on the other hand has floored me this season. Sure they lost a shit load of starters but one would think a program of that caliper with the highly regarded recruits could reload and look at least decent. This one may be ugly, but at the same time I can't help but snicker at their misfortunes.

NEB 15
OU 10

Being an old schooler, this used to be the game (around thanksgiving).... Peacock, Pruitt, Mildren, etc.............I was a big Oklahoma fan back in the day.....We would play other neighborhoods and the offense of choice would always be the wishbone...........................

This leads me to the question, what happened to this game??????? I always put this right up there with Michigan v. Ohio St.............Fls. v Fla St...................ND v USC............................Alabama v Alburn.............We need the Big 8 to come back minus SMU.......................J Rogers running the PUNT back............That was my first college football memory...............................

Waz · Post by **Waz** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:46 am

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote:
Waz, who showed up right about the same time, if not later, during OU's 2000 title run wrote:
campinfool wrote: but at the same time I can't help but snicker at their misfortunes.

of course not, because you are a bandwagoning bitch
:roll:

I wasnt here in 99? jeez I cant even remember. I think you are right. oops.

Waz · Post by **Waz** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:48 am

Waz wrote:
MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote:
Waz, who showed up right about the same time, if not later, during OU's 2000 title run wrote: of course not, because you are a bandwagoning bitch
:roll:

I wasnt here in 99? jeez I cant even remember. I think you are right. oops.

I do remember talking shit before the texass game though, and making a general newbie ass out of myself. :D

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:03 am

Cornhusker wrote: Times change but I can't warm to a guy that couldn't understand Okie fan throwing oranges in Norman last year when he said he'd studied NU history. He didn't pay attention to chapter 5 of NU - OU history 101.

see, at least for me, this and the astonishment of the Ref/Neks "pop guns" and Delone is what drives the contempt for Callahan. It's not like it's the first time the Ruf/Neks have ever been on the field. he's recanted in all the proper media friendly ways, sure. go watch the 1987 #2 OU-#1 NU "Game of the Century II" in Lincoln which is on ESPN Classic 5 times a month...when Nebraska scores on it's first possession....the oranges are raining like cats and dogs. anyone who says "i spent the whole summer "studying up" on the history of Nebraska football" and missed that element of the Big 8 is a liar or a fraud.

he acted surprised by all this. i think in the long term that's what OU fan latched on to. being called a "fucking hillbilly" is tepid compared to what the self-stroking aristocrats in Austin call us on a yearly basis.

and also ironic. it ain't like he's coaching in Vienna or Paris or London.

Cornhusker · Post by **Cornhusker** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:06 am

Snake wrote:
campinfool wrote:It just seems hard for anyone outside of those 2 states to really get up for this one. This game seems to have as much hype and title implications as a Iowa State- Baylor game usually does. It is strange how the migthy have fallen. Nebraska has really struggled since Solich mistakenly gotten the ax IMHO. I really don't think Calahan can bring success to this school as a head coach. He just doesn't look "Nebraskan" the same way Mackovic did not look "Texan". He may get them bowl ready, but the bowls he'll qualify for are the kind to get coaches fired in that state. Oklahoma on the other hand has floored me this season. Sure they lost a shit load of starters but one would think a program of that caliper with the highly regarded recruits could reload and look at least decent. This one may be ugly, but at the same time I can't help but snicker at their misfortunes.

NEB 15
OU 10
Being an old schooler, this used to be the game (around thanksgiving).... Peacock, Pruitt, Mildren, etc.............I was a big Oklahoma fan back in the day.....We would play other neighborhoods and the offense of choice would always be the wishbone...........................

This leads me to the question, what happened to this game??????? I always put this right up there with Michigan v. Ohio St.............Fls. v Fla St...................ND v USC............................Alabama v Alburn.............We need the Big 8 to come back minus SMU.......................J Rogers running the PUNT back............That was my first college football memory...............................

That's the heart break of NU fan.
OU was (and is) our rival and the founding of the Big 12 shot it to hell.
The division break up took the annual event away.
NU wanted to play OU each year but Texas and the fact OU recognized UT as their rival left NU in the cold.
Fuckin' oil money.
And Texas lookin' for a place to land with the demise of the "death penalty conference." a.k.a. SWC"
All the more reason to kick some Sooner ass tomorrow.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:23 am

Cornhusker wrote:
Snake wrote:
campinfool wrote:It just seems hard for anyone outside of those 2 states to really get up for this one. This game seems to have as much hype and title implications as a Iowa State- Baylor game usually does. It is strange how the migthy have fallen. Nebraska has really struggled since Solich mistakenly gotten the ax IMHO. I really don't think Calahan can bring success to this school as a head coach. He just doesn't look "Nebraskan" the same way Mackovic did not look "Texan". He may get them bowl ready, but the bowls he'll qualify for are the kind to get coaches fired in that state. Oklahoma on the other hand has floored me this season. Sure they lost a shit load of starters but one would think a program of that caliper with the highly regarded recruits could reload and look at least decent. This one may be ugly, but at the same time I can't help but snicker at their misfortunes.

NEB 15
OU 10
Being an old schooler, this used to be the game (around thanksgiving).... Peacock, Pruitt, Mildren, etc.............I was a big Oklahoma fan back in the day.....We would play other neighborhoods and the offense of choice would always be the wishbone...........................

This leads me to the question, what happened to this game??????? I always put this right up there with Michigan v. Ohio St.............Fls. v Fla St...................ND v USC............................Alabama v Alburn.............We need the Big 8 to come back minus SMU.......................J Rogers running the PUNT back............That was my first college football memory...............................
That's the heart break of NU fan.
OU was (and is) our rival and the founding of the Big 12 shot it to hell.
The division break up took the annual event away.
NU wanted to play OU each year but Texas and the fact OU recognized UT as their rival left NU in the cold.
Fuckin' oil money.
And Texas lookin' for a place to land with the demise of the "death penalty conference." a.k.a. SWC"
All the more reason to kick some Sooner ass tomorrow.

i disagree. i think every OU fan considered NU it's best rival at the time....but OU sucked at the time and had no media markets to bargain with when Houston and Dallas became part of the reason for the Big XII..

regardless, i feel 100% confident in saying that Oklahoma is the one team that would have wanted to play Nebraska every year at that time.

it's not about oil, it's about media markets.

Cornhusker · Post by **Cornhusker** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:06 am

King Crimson wrote:i disagree. i think every OU fan considered NU it's best rival at the time....but OU sucked at the time and had no media markets to bargain with when Houston and Dallas became part of the reason for the Big XII..

regardless, i feel 100% confident in saying that Oklahoma is the one team that would have wanted to play Nebraska every year at that time.

it's not about oil, it's about media markets.

UT and OU was a nationally (or at least regionally) televised game each year anyway was it not? Regardless of OU's setback of the 90's.
As was OU-NU for all the Big 8 years.
How did the media markets of Dallas and Houston justify the attraction of an annual Baylor, Texas Tech, Okie St. vs. OU as an attraction that off set NU-OU?
I find it hard to believe OU was worried about markets solely in Houston or Dallas when it's reputation clearly exceeded those boundries.
The comment about oil was that Texas is the spoiled child that would stomp and scream if it didn't get it's agenda in place from the start, and that was the annual game with OU, and NU was thrown to the curb thus OU was forced into a decision that didn't include Nebraska.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:44 am

OU wasn't worried about media markets, the conference was. i don't think it's plausible to blame OU for the end on the yearly OU-NU series....unless you know something i don't. you could post at any Sooner site: "would you want OU-Nu to play every year?"....and i think your responses would be almost unanimous.

though i agree with you about the oil money spoiled child in other aspects of american life and not just football.

Cornhusker · Post by **Cornhusker** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 6:27 am

The only thing I can base it on is that when the conference was formed, all the teams were asked to name an opponent they wanted to play annually.
Bill Byrne was clear it was OU that NU wanted. I know this is true as I heard him say so.
We are told here by the media OU chose UT. I cannot confirm this statement other than the local media reported it. I remember it was reported then, and it was discussed this week locally as well, on a radio show.
This is not to say OU fan was in favor of the decision, but I believe Donnie Duncan was. I'm sure he felt it was in OU's best interest. And it probably was. Common recruiting grounds, Red River War, alumns in each others backyard.
All said, OU did what was best for OU and ultimately they decided NU was out and UT was in.
I suppose if NU was in OU's position, they would have done the same thing.
But to say OU didn't play a role in the demise of the series isn't true.
But no, I don't blame OU as much as I wish they had a better option at hand at the time.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:32 pm

While Solich made his fair share of mistakes and I was ready to ditch him after the 02 season I gave him a blank slate once he finally got rid of the staff Osborne wanted there for the one he wanted there. In 03 the team got about as much from their available talent as they could get and they were recruiting solidly before all the coaching controversy started. We were headed to better days, maybe not to MNC's but to the top10 anyway.

Thus far, while we are a better recruiting team I'd say the coaching side of it is at best a draw for Callahan's crew and that is pretty questionable.

I think we are headed to better days as well with Callahan as well but I still have some reservations. We have as good a recruiting staff as anyone in the nation, that will DEFINITELY improve us long-term. But we may well have compromised a bit on coaching to kick ass in recruiting. Defensively I just don't think we are as well-coached, most-noteable in the secondary department where we replaced our best position coach,Marvin Sanders, with what IMO now is our worst, Elmo. Cosgrove is solid, we'll do OK with him but considering we were headed to dominant-defense status in 03 I'm still meh about that side of the ball. The WCO will definitely continue to improve as the player talent and comprehension levels go up. As BC gets used to the college game he should be able to tailor it better as well. Hopefully we win today and have a strong finish, if we gimp our way to the finish I'll have to question a bit more.

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan · Sat Oct 29, 2005 6:44 pm

Waz wrote:
Waz wrote:
MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote: :roll:

I wasnt here in 99? jeez I cant even remember. I think you are right. oops.
I do remember talking shit before the texass game though, and making a general newbie ass out of myself. :D

We all did that. BtH & I had a go 'round back in '99 before the CU/OU game. I came blazing in with all kinds of fresh trailer-park smack. He was like "Dude, I live in Alaska."

I'm pretty sure BtH and War Stoops were the only Sooner fans before the 2000 season. I think I signed up in October 99 and they were the only two for that season. I don't remember what month you came in, but there was a big influx of Sooner fans in Nov/Dec 2000. At least most of you guys turned out to be keepers, except for that ouskull guy. That boy ain't right...

At Large · Post by **At Large** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:16 pm

I just got back from the game. Needless to say, I'm really disappointed, but at the same time proud that the team didn't quit. Had an OU fan in front of us that came with his NU pal. He cheered for OU, but wasn't annoying. We had him laughing the whole game with our comments, especially after OU went up by 21. I said, "OK. Now that we've spotted them 21 points, we can start our comeback."

Some quick points:

- I'm sick of spotting teams 21 points
- It's called holding ref, how about calling it sometime on the opposing team?
- Refs absolutely sucked today. For example, there was a run by Cody Glenn in which he was stopped, spun and rolled over the OU defender for 2 more yards. The refs spotted it two yards back. WTF?
- We need a line that can block. 9 sacks isn't cutting it.
- OU is a lot more talented than I thought they would be. Fast. They'll be back next year in the hunt.
- Callahan needs to stop forcing things. In the postgame show, he admitted two mistakes that were his calls that led to two second half scores (the pass that ZT threw that was ran back and the all out on the fake field goal).
- Our zone run blocking scheme sucks dog. Our running backs keep stuttering trying to find holes and should be getting more yards on simple run plays.
- Crowd was disappointing today. Sat there like dead dogs until the comeback in the 4th quarter.
- Stoops outcoached Callahan today by a long shot. In the first quarter, with a minute left, NU had 2nd and 2 and OU called time out to force NU to punt into the wind before the quarter ended. I told my wife to watch for a major stunt from OU. Sure enough, a simple run turned into a 2-yard loss as OU brought the farm. Timeout again. NU is forced to punt into the wind and OU gets the ball back to start the second in great field position.

Nice win OU, but I'm getting tired of moral victories.

DiT · Post by **DiT** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:29 pm

Believe the Heupel wrote:
diT wrote:Bomar will have 2x as many turnovers as Nebraska will have touchdowns.
0 turnovers today.

Gonna ever stop riding Bomar's nuts? OU has won three in a row and just went into Lincoln and won. Sure, he ain't where we want him to be yet, but he's getting better.

he didn't do anything to lose the game today!
woohoo :roll:
didn't do much to win it either;)
the third and ten to wilson was a nice pass and he did make a couple plays that showed a flash of talent.
but,honestly,dude ain't all that good.
does Patrick Fletcher have any eligibilty left?

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:38 pm

At Large wrote:- Our zone run blocking scheme sucks dog.

Message to Callahan: Yes.

At Large wrote:- Crowd was disappointing today. Sat there like dead dogs until the comeback in the 4th quarter.

I was in a bar today watching the game with some OU freeloader who stole my nic last night. Personally, I couldn't hear the crowd either, until very late in the game amid the bar and the very low TV volume.

At Large wrote:- Stoops outcoached Callahan today by a long shot.

What are you talking about? Can Stoops really coach?

Sincerely,

Myopic OU fan, after week 3, this season.

At Large wrote:In the first quarter, with a minute left, NU had 2nd and 2 and OU called time out to force NU to punt into the wind before the quarter ended. I told my wife to watch for a major stunt from OU. Sure enough, a simple run turned into a 2-yard loss as OU brought the farm. Timeout again. NU is forced to punt into the wind and OU gets the ball back to start the second in great field position.

Nice win OU, but I'm getting tired of moral victories.

What moral victory? :twisted:

DiT · Post by **DiT** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:52 am

Believe the Heupel wrote:
diT wrote:
Believe the Heupel wrote: 0 turnovers today.

Gonna ever stop riding Bomar's nuts? OU has won three in a row and just went into Lincoln and won. Sure, he ain't where we want him to be yet, but he's getting better.
he didn't do anything to lose the game today!
woohoo :roll:
didn't do much to win it either;)
Yeah, didn't think so.

I was so excited by his performance I tried looking some stats up on him but I couldn't find his name in the top 100 qb's.
wonder why....

War Stoops · Post by **War Stoops** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:15 am

I'm typing this post from my hotel near the Kansas City Airport. My dad and I went to the game yesterday in Lincoln. It's a place I've always wanted to visit and it more than lived up to my expectations. Husker fan should be very proud of his university, his campus, and his fellow Huskers. Time and time again, Husker fans said things like, "Thanks for coming, enjoy your trip" or "Welcome to Lincoln, looking forward to a great game." After the game, though obviously disappointed, NU fan was just as gracious.

Much like NU fan is tired of spotting opposing teams 20+ points in the first half, I'm getting pretty tired of OU's mental block in the third quarter. This week, it affected the defense even more than the offense. The OU linebackers and secondary looked flat-out lost for most of the second half. If not for a stout pass rush, Nebraska wins that game.

That being said, I'm thrilled for our young team to go into a place like Memorial Stadium and win a tight game in the fourth quarter. With A&M's meltdown against ISU and OSU's load-blowing game against Texas, I'm pretty optimistic about OU's prospects for the rest of the season. This team is growing every week and for the second straight week, showed flashes of dominance. The Sooners just lack that killer instinct that they have had in the past (sans post-season).

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:08 am

RadioFan wrote:
At Large wrote:- Our zone run blocking scheme sucks dog.
Message to Callahan: Yes.

At Large wrote:- Crowd was disappointing today. Sat there like dead dogs until the comeback in the 4th quarter.
I was in a bar today watching the game with some OU freeloader who stole my nic last night. Personally, I couldn't hear the crowd either, until very late in the game amid the bar and the very low TV volume.

Hanging out with skull and MO again are ya?

At Large wrote:- Stoops outcoached Callahan today by a long shot.
What are you talking about? Can Stoops really coach?

Sincerely,

Myopic OU fan, after week 3, this season.

Sorry I didn't see more than three people calling for stoops head across the net and at the games. Most were calling for Chuck's head but hell I think they are still doing this even after the three game stretch.

At Large wrote:In the first quarter, with a minute left, NU had 2nd and 2 and OU called time out to force NU to punt into the wind before the quarter ended. I told my wife to watch for a major stunt from OU. Sure enough, a simple run turned into a 2-yard loss as OU brought the farm. Timeout again. NU is forced to punt into the wind and OU gets the ball back to start the second in great field position.

Nice win OU, but I'm getting tired of moral victories.
What moral victory? :twisted:

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Moral victory?

How can you claim a loss to a 4-3 unranked team at home a moral victory

:roll:

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:09 am

diT wrote:
Believe the Heupel wrote:
diT wrote: he didn't do anything to lose the game today!
woohoo :roll:
didn't do much to win it either;)
Yeah, didn't think so.
I was so excited by his performance I tried looking some stats up on him but I couldn't find his name in the top 100 qb's.
wonder why....

BtH why even bother waisting your time with bandwagon bitches?

DiT · Post by **DiT** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 5:25 pm

SunCoastSooner wrote:
diT wrote:
Believe the Heupel wrote: Yeah, didn't think so.
I was so excited by his performance I tried looking some stats up on him but I couldn't find his name in the top 100 qb's.
wonder why....
BtH why even bother waisting your time with bandwagon bitches?

you've got me confused for for an OU homer because by no means do I think Bomar is anything above mediocre at best and absolutely dismal at worst.
there's nothing wrong with living in reality and reality is Bomar has done NOTHING really well this season.
he's done very little that could be considered good.
what he has done consistently is play average football while looking confused and out of place.
he's getting slightly better each game but he's not even close to being half the quarterback Nate Hybl was and he was adequate at best.
his QB rating is in the 60's,he's thrown more int's than td's,he's turned the ball over at crucial times during the game and his crowning moment was an overtime victory against BAYLOR.
going 5-13 for 42 yards and two int's against Tulsa was the worst performance by an OU qb I've seen since Brandon Daniels.
if it wasn't for the ground game they would have lost to Tulsa,KSU,Baylor and Nebraska.
forgive me if there's not alot to get excited about thus far...

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 6:42 pm

Bomar didn't do much to win this one but he didn't do much to blow-it either. He had a potential pick dropped in the first half but was otherwise solid. Very mediocre but still managing to get the job done in a hostile environment. Which is more than Taylor can say. Taylor threw four potential picks in the first half, fortunately only one was caught. He showed balls in leading a second-half comeback but cancelled it out by missing on an EASY td-pass on that last offensive series. I still say Dailey in his second year starting would be at least as good and probably better.

Our O-line was the team's biggest problem. There was no running game and Taylor was getting consistently put on his ass. I will say this for the kid, he can really take the hits and come back for more, ballsy as hell. After losing our best guy, Incognito, last year I thought we played we were surprisingly sound. This year has been a considerable step backward up-front.

I still can't believe we didn't pressure Bomar at all on that third-and-ten late in the game. Dude had all day to find somebody open. Bad coaching by Cosgrove. I understand that OU had burned us with a couple blitzes but you can't do nothing for fear a screen might come your way. Plus well-coached D shouldn't get repeatedly burned on screens anyway. Our sack-attack that led the nation turned into a suck-attack. By not pressuring Bomar nearly enough overall we gave-up a real shot of making the rookie make a rookie mistake.

Yet again we gave up an early lead. Why do we have to adjust to do anything? Why can't we come up with a good gameplan and execute from the start? It is nice that we have a passing game that can come from behind and that our D adjusts pretty well but all this catch-up is getting very old.

Props to a very young OU-squad for coming up with another tough win. They have shown some nice resolve since the Texas debacle and are making progress.

DiT · Post by **DiT** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:30 pm

BTH,bro,just so we're clear,I'm an OU diehard 20 years+
I WANT Rhett to just blow the fuck up and be THE MAN but he just hasn't done so thus far and honestly he hasn't done ANYTHING to seperate himself from Thompson.
that being said,the "only leigitimate threat at running back" isn't just AP,K. Jones is solid with 30 career rushing TD's before this season and he's a better blocker in passing situations than AP.
the o-line was shaken up ,yes, but most of the mistakes he's made were not their fault.
they were either decision or ability errors.
I rechecked espn.com and he's still not in the 100 top qb's in NCAA football.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/sortables ... 5&group=80
I rechecked his qb rating through the last three games and it's still in the lower 60's.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/pr ... rId=161705

But if you don't think that Bomar and the rest of the team isn't going to show massive improvement from this year to next year, then you haven't been paying attention.

who said that?
I said he was improving slightly from game to game.
you never saw me say Bomar would "never" be any good.
just that he's no where close to being good right now.
I'm not rooting against the guy,just calling it like it is.

Snake · Post by **Snake** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:04 pm

BTH, DiT has been a OU homeboy long time....You want to believe the hype that came with Bomar, and want this KID to be another AP. Truth, his sidearm delivery is really annoying. He runs well............For you to grab his cock and stroke it on his Prep career alone makes you kinda of.........................Homer................Question, last QB to come out of HS and have an impact.........................

At Large · Post by **At Large** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:36 am

Moral victory in that NU came back from 21 down with a chance to tie it on the last drive. A similar scenario happened against Texas Tech. They didn't lay down and die like last year when they got behind. That's the moral victory.

DiT · Post by **DiT** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:27 am

Believe the Heupel wrote:
diT wrote:BTH,bro,just so we're clear,I'm an OU diehard 20 years+
I WANT Rhett to just blow the fuck up and be THE MAN but he just hasn't done so thus far and honestly he hasn't done ANYTHING to seperate himself from Thompson.
that being said,the "only leigitimate threat at running back" isn't just AP,K. Jones is solid with 30 career rushing TD's before this season and he's a better blocker in passing situations than AP.
the o-line was shaken up ,yes, but most of the mistakes he's made were not their fault.
they were either decision or ability errors.
I rechecked espn.com and he's still not in the 100 top qb's in NCAA football.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/sortables ... 5&group=80
I rechecked his qb rating through the last three games and it's still in the lower 60's.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/pr ... rId=161705

But if you don't think that Bomar and the rest of the team isn't going to show massive improvement from this year to next year, then you haven't been paying attention.

who said that?
I said he was improving slightly from game to game.
you never saw me say Bomar would "never" be any good.
just that he's no where close to being good right now.
I'm not rooting against the guy,just calling it like it is.
DiT, per NCAA.org Bomar is 97th in the country at 99.6.

Not great, but not what you're claiming.

This morning when I looked, he was 100th on ESPN.com. Now I see he's not. Methinks that ESPN has the wrong numbers now, or is using a different rating system.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp ... f&site=org

Snake, I know DiT is a longtime OU fan and have never claimed otherwise.
Please show me where I've referenced Bomar's high school career in this thread or any other lately-as in since he signed.

I'll heartily agree he hasn't been super yet, but I don't see any reason to constantly bag on him like OU has other options right now. Thompson sure as FUCK hasn't shown anything in a real situation to make HIM the starter. That TCU game was fucking brutal.

edit: Soonersports.com has Bomar at 99.62 QB rating. ESPN is incorrect.

hey,I've gotta give him credit for being the the 97th rated qb in the country not to mention the 11th rated qb in the Big 12 :?