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Mulefan (Cuda) trying to force intangibles (must-win pop psychology) into pre-game prognosticating on T1B...


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Truman wrote:Ever see a horse count, Cuds? Just tap your hoof three times and that will tell you how many games the Blots will trail the Chiefs in the ol' loss column. I know, I know... Word problems blow. You can thank me later.




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Cudes,

Seriously, when the game is underway and the hitting is at its fiercest, none of those considered pros are even thinking about the standings. It is about the matchups, and you know that. The game in question features two potent offenses, but the edge goes to KC. KC also has the better defense imo. Still having Jared Allen flashbacks ovah here.


KC 27
SD 17






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KC Paul 3.0 wrote:DON'T DO IT BILL!!!!

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The scary thing is that he's gotten fatter since the day he took the KU job. Most of the Lawrence area restaurants are franchise bullshit cuisine (i.e. Applebee's, Chili's, Old Chicago, 15 pieces of flair, etc.), so I'm sure he didn't get that way from an appreciation for fine dining.

But he does own Mizzou, so he's got that going for him... which is nice.
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Paul, rack that fucking pic. LMAO here.

Velo, I like your thinking, but as much as Bolt fan does not give the Chiefs enough credit, you are not giving the Bolts enough respect.

Chiefs MUST score 27, prolly alot more to win this game. But the Bolts 17? :shock: Come on brah. Who's friggin chain are you trying to yank?

Barb, leave the seat down if Velo is next in line. Do a "drop and hover," if dude comes out, right as you are going in.
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An all-timer Paul..RACK... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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velocet wrote:Cudes,

Seriously, when the game is underway and the hitting is at its fiercest, none of those considered pros are even thinking about the standings. It is about the matchups, and you know that. The game in question features two potent offenses, but the edge goes to KC. KC also has the better defense imo. Still having Jared Allen flashbacks ovah here.


KC 27
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velocent, you poor, misguided slut...

Did Chuck Knobloch think he was going to bean Keith Olberman's mother in the dome that time in Yankee Stadium instead of making a routine throw to 1st base?

Same thing goes with any athlete- they don't think about fucking up, but the idea is sitting right there in their subconscious mind, waiting for the opportunity to break out.

And it will, of course. Quite predictably. There's more pressure on the Chefs not to fuck up this week, so it's inevitable that they will, and probably spectacularly.
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What up, Dave, you are almost starting to sound like RTS.

It's not a lack a respect for the Chiefs, I just think the Chargers are going to come out pissing firewater and will lay the wood to KC.
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atomicdad wrote:What up, Dave, you are almost starting to sound like RTS.
Almost? Starting to?

What fucking message board have you been reading? He's long since crossed the line of sanity. Hell, I'm sure he and Shrubber have Nextel by now.
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My Bad, I suppose Dave still has a crate of locks somewhere in his basement.
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Ten thousand Chimps - equipped with 10,000 typewriters and given 10,000 years - could duplicate the sonnets of Bill Shakespeare. Or so sez the theory. Yet after five years of lurking on various smack boards, I’ve yet to ever see MuleFan string together a cognizant take. Why am I not surprised?
Scud-a wrote:Reading comprehension, motherfucker- do you speak it?
Naw, Scuds, we just speak English here in these parts. But I AM familiar with the conceptmotherfucker
I never said the Chargers would have tie-breaker advantage over the Chefs THIS WEEK. I said they'd have it at the end of the year, when it fucking matters.
Nobody suggested that the Blots “would have tie-breaker advantage…THIS WEEK.” But I understand your confusion: The break-down I offered was written in English….

However, You DID post this asinine jewel that “when they lose to the Chargers, they'll be doomed to ending up no better than 3rd in the division because regardless whether it's Denver or San Diego in 2nd, the Chefs come up short on tie-breakers.”

All that with a single SD victory this Sunday, eh, Scuds? :roll: Hell, why even bother to play the rest of the season? Reverse the outcome and even that would be a helluva stretch for the Kool-aid drinkers in this town.
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Truman wrote:Half-way through the season, and the Division race is far from over.
Never said it was. Dr. DeTard much?
The Hee Haws play five of the next eight on the road, and the Blots don't see another team with a winning record until after Turkeyday.
None of which hurts San Diego a bit- or helps the Chefs in the slightest

…and if you're counting on the Chefs not to take a huge dump over the next 8 weeks, you're probably counting on the sun to start rising in the west too- and why not? One is just as likely as the other to happen.

Why, ain’t you clever, Scuds! Parse a freaking summation, and call it “smack.” With gems like that, I’m surprised that you even notice the sunrise - regardless of direction. Please tell us that you really are only this stupid on the Internet. Oh, and that you weren’t the drunken loser that plowed into Dwayne Carswell today. Maybe you should spend more time assimilating the concept of “reading comprehension” instead of trying to figure out how to speak it.

You missed my point worse than a blocked Jason Elam field goal attempt: The Bolts really do need this game more than the Chiefs. That you choose to ignore the math speaks to your intelligence. As for the final eight weeks, the Chiefs play five of the next eight at home, with roadies at Houston and Tennessee. Like it or not, Scuds, the Chiefs finish at the very minimum10-6 – and that oughtta be good enough for at least the Wild Card.

Yawn.

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BEATINGS!

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Good God.

Truman just turned Cuda into a pouch of rancid tuna cat food that even dogs wouldn't eat.

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atomicdad wrote:What up, Dave, you are almost starting to sound like RTS. It's not a lack a respect for the Chiefs, I just think the Chargers are going to come out pissing firewater and will lay the wood to KC.
Im not up to speed on whatever RTS smack you are running, so forgive me. Last I knew he would never think of looking @ this forum, and pretty much hated the NFL. Anywho, I smell a wager.

Bolts win by 8 or more, you get the nut licking post that you have looked for during the last 3 days. Full props to you, and the Bolts, no excuses.

Bolts win by 7, you prop the Chiefs on a close game, for playing tough, and admit you were wrong in predicting a blowout. I prop the Bolts and point out why they are the better team.

Bolts win by 6 or less. Simply copy and paste BOTH your and my takes on this game, from the entire week into one single post, and say "Dave you were right."

Tie. We both spend the next 5 days bitching about a tie game.

Chiefs win. Kick yourself in the ass, for the whole board to see, in what ever fasion you choose. I laugh or not, and turn my attention to raiduh fan for next Sunday.

Deal?
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That is what i'm talking about:
Im not up to speed on whatever RTS smack you are running, so forgive me. Last I knew he would never think of looking @ this forum, and pretty much hated the NFL. Anywho, I smell a wager.

Bolts win by 8 or more, you get the nut licking post that you have looked for during the last 3 days. Full props to you, and the Bolts, no excuses.

Bolts win by 7, you prop the Chiefs on a close game, for playing tough, and admit you were wrong in predicting a blowout. I prop the Bolts and point out why they are the better team.

Bolts win by 6 or less. Simply copy and paste BOTH your and my takes on this game, from the entire week into one single post, and say "Dave you were right."
, you and your mealy-mouth fucking deals, you sound just like RTS. You know what, i'll take you up on your BS deal because I know if I offered you the same thing you would be a sackless pussy and run and hide.
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atomicdad wrote:(Dave,) you and your mealy-mouth fucking deals, you sound just like RTS. You know what, i'll take you up on your BS deal because I know if I offered you the same thing you would be a sackless pussy and run and hide.
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Truman wrote:Ten thousand Chimps - equipped with 10,000 typewriters and given 10,000 years - could duplicate the sonnets of Bill Shakespeare. Or so sez the theory. Yet after five years of lurking on various smack boards, I’ve yet to ever see MuleFan string together a cognizant take. Why am I not surprised?
Scud-a wrote:Reading comprehension, motherfucker- do you speak it?
Naw, Scuds, we just speak English here in these parts. But I AM familiar with the conceptmotherfucker
I never said the Chargers would have tie-breaker advantage over the Chefs THIS WEEK. I said they'd have it at the end of the year, when it fucking matters.
Nobody suggested that the Blots “would have tie-breaker advantage…THIS WEEK.” But I understand your confusion: The break-down I offered was written in English….

However, You DID post this asinine jewel that “when they lose to the Chargers, they'll be doomed to ending up no better than 3rd in the division because regardless whether it's Denver or San Diego in 2nd, the Chefs come up short on tie-breakers.”

All that with a single SD victory this Sunday, eh, Scuds? :roll: Hell, why even bother to play the rest of the season? Reverse the outcome and even that would be a helluva stretch for the Kool-aid drinkers in this town.
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Truman wrote:Half-way through the season, and the Division race is far from over.
Never said it was. Dr. DeTard much?
The Hee Haws play five of the next eight on the road, and the Blots don't see another team with a winning record until after Turkeyday.
None of which hurts San Diego a bit- or helps the Chefs in the slightest

…and if you're counting on the Chefs not to take a huge dump over the next 8 weeks, you're probably counting on the sun to start rising in the west too- and why not? One is just as likely as the other to happen.

Why, ain’t you clever, Scuds! Parse a freaking summation, and call it “smack.” With gems like that, I’m surprised that you even notice the sunrise - regardless of direction. Please tell us that you really are only this stupid on the Internet. Oh, and that you weren’t the drunken loser that plowed into Dwayne Carswell today. Maybe you should spend more time assimilating the concept of “reading comprehension” instead of trying to figure out how to speak it.

You missed my point worse than a blocked Jason Elam field goal attempt: The Bolts really do need this game more than the Chiefs. That you choose to ignore the math speaks to your intelligence. As for the final eight weeks, the Chiefs play five of the next eight at home, with roadies at Houston and Tennessee. Like it or not, Scuds, the Chiefs finish at the very minimum10-6 – and that oughtta be good enough for at least the Wild Card.

Yawn.

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You must be the most takeless, talentless, humorless twat on the entire internet- KCPaula excluded, of course. Reading Comprehension: You clearly neither speak it, write it, nor understand the concept of it as you claim.

The Chefs finish 10-6? BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. That's something only a True Fan would say. Don't confuse my Queef bashing with being any sort of a fan of the Broncos or any other pro team. You look at these things wearing blinders and rose colored glasses. I look at them with cold, hard analysis and a bit of history-based intuition.

I don't see any likely scenario where the Chefs finish 10-6, nor do I see any likely scenario where they don't finish at least a game or two behind the Chargers. The only likely scenario I see for the Chefs is for them to end up no better than 3rd in the division- and even that depends more on how the Raiders second half of the season goes than how the Chefs final 8 games end up. Playoffs? Don't be talking about playoffs.
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Another Cheffan heard from :hugefuckingrolleyes:

Tell me, Paula what's the Chef's record vs the Donks these past few years- say, since Mr Ed's back to back SB wins? Oh, and what's the Chef's SB record, btw? How about in the last 30 years?

Nobody was more relieved than Cheffan when Elway retired, btw, because their chances of escaping a severe ass-raping by the Broncos immediately rose from None to Slim the instant Elway called it quits.
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Cuda wrote: Oh, and what's the Chef's SB record, btw? How about in the last 30 years?
1-1. No need to go Bronco Rob on us, Coods. Nobody give's a rat's ASS about the last 30 years. Only THIS year matters, Ace..
BWAHAHAHAHA. I gave you every opportunity to walk around that bucket of elephant shit, but, true to form, you HAD to jump in with both feet. You couldn't NOT step in it.

Yeah, dumb ass, it's been 35 FUCKING YEARS since the Chefs were in a SB. Every other team in the AFC West has been there in the last 10 years- some several times. And while it's true that only this year matters, here's a little hint for you: The Chefs ain't going to any SB this year either- not unless they buy tickets. They may well not get to the SB for another 30 years, and you can bet that sizeable ass of yours that all the other AFC West teams will have been there- and won- several more times in the interim.
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



Holy. Fucking. Shit.



RAAAAAAAACK Cudes.



Motherfucker is single handedly taking out Greiffan in this thread.

Cuda wrote:Tell me, Paula what's the Chef's record vs the Donks these past few years- say, since Mr Ed's back to back SB wins? Oh, and what's the Chef's SB record, btw? How about in the last 30 years?

Nobody was more relieved than Cheffan when Elway retired, btw, because their chances of escaping a severe ass-raping by the Broncos immediately rose from None to Slim the instant Elway called it quits.
Thats gonna leave a fucking mark.


Ouch.



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Raydah James wrote: Motherfucker is single handedly taking out Greiffan in this thread.
Really?

You must be a dense as Cooter then, if you believe that.

So Lames, I guess you also believe that this game is more critical to KC than SD then?
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War Wagon wrote:
So Lames, I guess you also believe that this game is more critical to KC than SD then?
The only thing "critical" in here is the fucking flatlining status of your smack abilites, douchenozzle.


I dont give a mad fuck either way about the game this weekend-whatever the turnout, my team fucking wins standingswise in the grand scheme of it all. (Taking into account that the Raiders have actually pulled thier heads out of thier collective asses, of course)


So, once again, to Review: 1. I dont fucking care who takes the L this weekend since the Raiders will be finishing 2nd behind Denver anyway, and 2. Go fuck yourself, bitch.


Clear enough?
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Raydah James wrote: Clear enough?
That in reality you're a mindless simpleton?

Crystal.

Nice job exposing your ignorance whislt trying to swing from Coods jockstrap. Only problem is that Coods is also a mindlessly ignorant simpleton, vividly displayed in this thread, and here you come serving up props to said idiot.

You might as well be standing ringside and tell the boxer who's getting bludgeoned... "Way to go, champ! Your face is really showing that guys' fists who's boss. Bleed some more on 'em!"

By all means, step in the ring yourself and try to deflect the haymakers. You and Coods can crawl back into the corner, bloodied and bruised, and tell yourselves all about how you got over.
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Paul just blew up MVS.

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MVS continues to show that along with Coods, they should stay on Main street and leave NFL discussions to those that understand the NFL

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War Wagon wrote:
That in reality you're a mindless simpleton?
What. The. Fuck.

Were the words 'hijinks', 'tomfoolery', and 'Roughian' taken before you could type them?

Christ you're a fucking dork and half. Im just waiting for you to threaten me with an arrowhead alien transponder or chief colored phaser of some sort.




The rest of your post wasnt worth addressing. Coods packed KC fans shit 'training day' style, tee'd off, and hit the fucking green with his shots.

Truman has yet to respond-and if he doesnt, you can forward his address to aston kutcher so he can send him the royalty checks on his punk'd ass.


Motherfucker got served and got skeered.


In the end, this thread is a win win for the forum.


Now, lets talk about what a bunch of messy fat twats KC fan is-and how I thank Tivo everyday for my ability to avoid having my TV short circuit out from being exposed to inbred poultry pounding sister slamming redneck KC fucks.
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I really DO hate to beat a dead horse…

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Er… No I don’t.
Scud-a wrote:You must be the most takeless, talentless, humorless twat on the entire internet…
…Which makes the fact that your junky ass has been dragged up-and-down this entire thread all that much more compelling. And, not to mention, speaks volumes about your “game.”

For those of you playing along at home, let’s review:

Scuds asserts a must-win for Kansas City this Sunday; Nostradamically rewards tie-breakers based upon the outcome of a single game; and openly scoffs at the notion that the Chiefs – with a 4-2 record and 10 games yet to play, just might position themselves to earn a playoff berth. All while having his ass handed to him on a plate. Fucker oughtta be in Vegas.

Clearly, Scuds you’ve become accustomed to some serious abuse.

Pray tell: Is it true that you were regularly beaten by a drunken father, or simply molested by priests?
Reading Comprehension: You clearly neither speak it, write it, nor understand the concept of it as you claim.
Care to take a moment to explain to us how one “speaks” or “writes” reading comprehension? Go ahead…

I’ll wait.
Don't confuse my Queef bashing with being any sort of a fan of the Broncos or any other pro team. You look at these things wearing blinders and rose colored glasses. I look at them with cold, hard analysis and a bit of history-based intuition.


Ah, a take. Of sorts. So, essentially, what you’re saying here is that the Donks wouldn’t have you…?

Get over yourself Scuds: I don’t confuse your Chiefs bashing with having any sort of knowledge of the game at all….

As for history-based intuition…

:?: :roll: :lol:

I must have missed all those fourth quarter, come-from-behind playoff victories Jake Plummer orchestrated for the Mules the past several years. Based on this theory, unless you plan on pulling ol’ Bucktooth away from his car dealerships, the over-under for this year’s Mule playoff appearance will be established as which quarter that the HorseHeads cross the freaking 50.
I don't see any likely scenario where the Chefs finish 10-6, nor do I see any likely scenario where they don't finish at least a game or two behind the Chargers.


Here, these might help:

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You might try to”look” for a game while you’re at it….
The only likely scenario I see for the Chefs is… Who gives a flying rat’s ass?

Super. You called your shot and I called mine.

Tell ya what, Sparky, I’ll make you a deal:

You quit posting bad takes, and I’ll quit making you look stupid. Now run along, Scuds, ‘fore I get interested….
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KC Paul 3.0 wrote:I agree- any thread where you, Coods, AND Coodscal gets lit up like the Japs did to Pearl Harbor is ALWAYS a "win-win".
Like the Japs did to Pearl Harbor....? :shock:


Interesting reference coming from a guy who once welched on a sig bet because a 'Paul Walker Lindh' line within it was deemed distasteful.


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Raydah Flames wrote: Coods packed KC fans shit 'training day' style, tee'd off, and hit the fucking green with his shots.

Truman has yet to respond-and if he doesnt, you can forward his address to aston kutcher so he can send him the royalty checks on his punk'd ass.

Motherfucker got served and got skeered.
One more reason why Internet service to half-way houses is a bad idea....

Why is it every time you open your pie-hole, a cock falls out? Don't you have towels to wash, terlits to clean, and a whole shower-full of sweaty weight-lifters to blow?

Get your low-riding, meth-snorting, malt-liquor-drinking, liquor-store-robbing, riot-inciting-piece-of-shit ass outta my thread. I'll cure your ass next week.

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^^^Holy Shit!

Lames will never post a nut licking thread/take that could ever garner the amount of racks that one single post deserves.

WAR!... an "interested" fucking Truman.

Haven't laughed so hard in a long time.
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Laughable thread indeed....and I mean I'm LMAO.

It's a good thing seeing Truman once again pancaking one and all...
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Truman wrote:Get your low-riding, meth-snorting, malt-liquor-drinking, liquor-store-robbing, riot-inciting-piece-of-shit ass outta my thread.
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atomicdad wrote:you and your mealy-mouth fucking deals, you sound just like RTS. You know what, i'll take you up on your BS deal because I know if I offered you the same thing you would be a sackless pussy and run and hide.
Alotta words to say "Yea dave, I will back up what I said, and take the bet."

Now lets move on the to the "BS deal," part. How is this a BS deal? Need a better deal? Squirming a bit are you? I have said all the fucking while, that Im not real confident of a Chief win. I see the odds against the Chiefs. I have propped the Bolts, and told others to give the Bolts more respect than they were. I have also stated that no matter who wins, it will be a very close game as it always is.

You on the other hand, have said nothing but Bolts just need to roll out their helmets, and will "kick the shit out the Chiefs this coming Sunday," "42-17 Bolts," "I just think the Chargers are going to come out pissing firewater and will lay the wood to KC," and some bullshit about RTS than I neither know about, nor care about.

I see a 6 point game max, more than likely 3, EITHER way, and you call for a Bolt win by 25 points. How is that a BS deal?

Lookie here Danny boy ....... if I was gonna throw a BS offer your way, Id make ya put your money where your fucking mouth is, and ask you to lay the 25 points that you seem to be so sure of. I would not be offering you the easy way out with a simple ass post. Hell, I didnt even ask you to use it as a sig for a week.

Save your "sackless pussy/run and hide," for a newbie, a troll, or what have you. Trust me brah, if the Chiefs lose by 25, I will be paying that debt, and I will have a WHOLE lot more to say about the Chiefs. Run and hide? Please. You only wish. Wish in one hand shit in the other, and see which one fills first.
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kcdave wrote:Trust me brah, if the Chiefs lose by 25, I will be paying that debt
BEATINGS

Yeah, you'll be paying in blood and pain, motherfucker.

Now get the fuck off that computer and go fix me a sammich.

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kcdave wrote:...if I was gonna throw a BS offer your way, Id make ya put your money where your fucking mouth is...
Danny boy only puts other peoples money where his mouth is.

I thought you knew.
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JHawkBCD wrote:
kcdave wrote:Trust me brah, if the Chiefs lose by 25, I will be paying that debt
BEATINGS

Yeah, you'll be paying in blood and pain, motherfucker.

Now get the fuck off that computer and go fix me a sammich.

XXXOOO%&*!#%*#,
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My fucking Gawd, you suck.
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mvscal wrote:Only THIS year matters, Ace.
Chiefs rank 8th in the league against the rush this year, douchebag.


MVS - Once again proving you don't have to know what your talking about before you hit submit.

On a serious note........ go back to Main street and debate why Scooter Libby quit, why Tom Delay is guilty and how Karl Rove is a traitor and leave football to the guys that really understand it.

Mkay?

BTW - Andy Kauffman was a Fag. Nice new Av.
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KC Paul 3.0 wrote:
Motherfucker got served and got skeered.
Won't. EVER. Happen.
Thought that was funny in the midst of everything else.
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Post by KC Scott »

Good Article on Marty.....
Marty’s got to know when to hold ’em

JOE POSNANSKI


The word of the day is “gamble.” And our subject is that anti-gambling spokesman himself, San Diego Chargers head coach and old friend Marty Schottenheimer. You know, if Schottenheimer is inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, his plaque should read a little something like this:

Martin Schottenheimer … Overall Record 180-121 … Born Sept. 23, 1943, in Canonsburg, Pa. … Teams rarely beat themselves … Coached Cleveland, Kansas City, Washington and San Diego … Famous for “not losing” … Was seventh- round pick of Buffalo Bills and played in 1965 Pro Bowl … Did not lose more games than any coach in NFL history.

Yes, Vince Lombardi is known for the Packer Sweep, Tom Landry for the flex defense, Bill Walsh for the West Coast offense. Marty’s legacy will be his ability not to lose. That’s his nature. He’s so conservative that he should wear Tucker Carlson’s bowtie on the sideline. The guy has been holding that bird in the hand for 20 years.

Of course, conservative works for Marty, right? His teams almost always make the playoffs. They almost always win 10 games in a season. There are only a handful of coaches who have matched Schottenheimer’s regular-season record. You can bet the Chiefs will have to play out of their minds to go into San Diego and win Sunday.

Then, of course, the playoffs come around, and Schottenheimer’s teams almost always lose. Worse, they lose in terrible, painful fashion. People ask, “Why?”

I think it comes back to the topic: gambling.

Last week, with San Diego up four points on Philadelphia with about 3 minutes left in the game, the Chargers faced third down and 3. If they had “gambled” and thrown the ball and picked up a first down, the ballgame would have been over.

Marty is no gambler. The Chargers did not try for the first down. They ran the ball so the clock would run. They got 1 yard. Thirty-some seconds rolled off the clock.

Fourth down and 2 in field-goal range. Again: If the Chargers had gambled and picked up a first down, they would have won. Schottenheimer never even considered that. He tried the field goal so that, at best, Philadelphia could tie.

The Eagles blocked the kick and returned it for a touchdown. San Diego lost.

Now, obviously, that was a fluke. After the game, though, everyone wondered why these flukes always seem to happen to Schottenheimer. How does he keep losing these heartbreakers?

The answer, I think, is simple: He misunderstands the word “gambling.” Most coaches do. Almost every coach in pro football, college, high school believes that by playing it safe — by “playing the odds” — they have a better chance to win.

But have football coaches actually figured the odds?

Let’s take a simple scenario: Say there are 2 minutes left in the game, the other team is out of timeouts. You are up four points, and you’re facing fourth and 1 at midfield. Obviously, people would say the gamble is to go for it, and punting would be playing it safe. Marty Schottenheimer would almost always punt. Most coaches would punt.

But what’s the real gamble?

Let’s do a little math.

If you go for it and make it, you win 100 percent of the time. That’s simple. If you go for it and don’t get the yard, you probably still win. The team still has to go 50 yards and score a touchdown without any timeouts.

OK, now let’s say you punt. You probably gain 30 or 40 yards, no small thing. So what should you do? To figure it out, you need to estimate what your chances are to win in each scenario. Here’s an example:

Go for it (and make it): Win 100 percent.

Go for it (and don’t make it): Win 60 percent.

Punt: Win 75 percent of the time.

Obviously, these numbers are pure guesses. Every game, every defense, every punter, every situation is different. But these odds seem reasonable. Let’s run these numbers. The math says that, in this scenario, if you believe you have a 37.5-percent chance of getting the first down, you should go for it. Get that? Is there a coach in the league that does not believe his team has a 37.5-percent chance of picking up 1 yard?

You can plug in your own numbers if you want. I just want to make the point: We misuse the word “gamble” in football all the time. Football coaches generally — and Marty Schottenheimer in particular — do not like to gamble. They want to believe they have more control of the game.

But it’s all a gamble, isn’t it? Sometimes playing it safe is the biggest gamble of all. If you punt, you are gambling that your defense will stop the other team. You are gambling time will run out. You are gambling that your punter won’t shank the punt. You are gambling it won’t be blocked or the snap will not fly over the punter’s head or the punter will not show up (Kansas State gamble only).

You are gambling, in other words, that the other team won’t break your heart.

Marty Schottenheimer has had that heart stomped many times in his life. Some people say he’s snakebitten. I say that Schottenheimer constantly puts himself in position to have his heart stomped. In his own way, he gambles as much as anybody.

And, in the biggest games, he’s not a very a lucky gambler.
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KC Scott wrote:
mvscal wrote:Only THIS year matters, Ace.
Chiefs rank 8th in the league against the rush this year, douchebag.
Against the 18, 25, 29 and 32 ranked rushing offenses?

Of course there was Washington and the Broncos, good job shutting down the run there.


Tomlinson goes for at least 150 yards.

Sig bet?
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Marty Schottenheimer's fear took over in the playoffs. The Chargers' passing assault had the Jets reeling in overtime. Then the unthinkable happened. "Martyball" reared its myopic bobblehead and ordered three running plays. Nine Jets hovered over the line focused to stop the run. No one was within 10 yards of our wide receiver! It begged for a slant pass for a big gain or score. Coaches usually take what defenses give.



Instead, Marty's runs got stuffed, the field goal missed and our Super Bolts lost. Later he said he didn't want to risk a pass because of a sack or interception. Forgive me, but hogwash! He risks the shaky rookie on a wet, 40-yard kick, but won't throw the slant for a sure gain? He let his fear of defeat actually cause the defeat and gutted my faith in him as a playoffs coach.

Marty made a winner (thanks), but he pulled back the reins at the finish line. How can we trust him? Until he hungers to take championship chances and stops reverting to his old predictable ways, we can only expect he'll carry on the gut-wrenching tradition of the San Diego Super Chokers.
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Post by poptart »

Paul, douche, a recap is in order.

You (like pussy Jeff) took a sig bet, lost, were tagged with a sig (that did NOT violate board rules in any fashion), and refused to wear the sig.

As a matter of public record, you are a welcher.


Your given reason for refusing the sig that was given you?

It somehow violated your oh-so-tender sensibilites as a verrah patriotic American.

Nevermind that NOBODY on the board stood up and took sides with you on the issue.
Nevermind that the sig in question came not close to breaking any board rule.

No, the fact of the matter was that YOU simply took a stand, as a baseball, hot dogs, apple pie and Chevrolet sort of fella, and declared that you couldn't stoop to accept a Paul Walker Lindh reference in the sig given to you.

Paul Walker Lindh.......oh so sick, twisted, and anti-American.


So now here you are in this thread running Pearl Harbor smack.

Not only that, but you are running it from the point of view of how delightful it was for the Japs to get off on the US.


I'm a man of 2nd chances.....3rd, 4th...or 5th.

Come correct right now.

Apologize for your idiocy in not accepting that sig given to you.

Be done with it.


That, or shut your fat pie hole, your ridiculous pile of pig slop.
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