BUWAHAHAHAHAH @ Ahnold!!!!

[mothster]

behold the power of unions with money

methinks ahhnold is going conan on shriver tonite

[Mister Bushice]

Our founding fathers would be appalled to see ballot propositions.

The Electoral College out front should have told you that.

I see the results of this election as a sign that the people of California are finally catching on and saying "enough!!".

I see it as proof that:

1. People are stupid.
2. If you run enough negative ads for a long enough period of time, you can program people to believe anything.

How dumb does the average Californian look right now, when they overwhelmingly elected Schwarzeneggar in the recall election, who ran as a reform candidate, and then they shoot down all of his reform measures by huge margins?

Is it too much to hope that they will start demanding that their representatives in Suckramento actually get some useful work done?

Clearly. By the people voting down Prop 77, they endorsed the actions of our retarded legislature and gave them a green light to keep right on doing whatever the fuck they want.

I think it was a mistake for Ahnold to force this expensive ($80 million?) special election at a time when the state budget is in a mess.

I agree in a vacuum that it seems like a bad call, except that the main reason for it is because we are financially fucked if we don't stop the deficit spending. The special election was done primarily because of Prop 76, so we wouldn't have to borrow another $10 or $20 billion next year.

A lot of people resented the fact that they were forced to go through this in an off year. If he had waited until the regular election next year some of his initiatives might even have passed.

That's a stupid reason to vote "no"...especially on something like Prop 77. Did you know that every major newspaper, even the ultra-lib San Francisco Chronicle supported a "Yes" vote on 77? Even liberal PACs and pro higher taxes groups came out in favor of this, along with essentially every GOP group. This was a no-brainer.

The ad campaign run against Prop 77 was one of the worst I've ever seen. Three retired judges, who are picked from a bi-partisan pool by voters, recommend new district boundaries, which are then approved or shot down by voters, right? There was even a provision that said that no more than two of the judges could come from one party. Yet the ads said, the three judges that Schwarzeneggar picked would be accountable to no one, or essentially saying that Schwarzeneggar's homies would draw up the districts. Just complete bullshit.

Also, word out of Sacramento is that they are considering having Attorney General Bill Lockyear impeached for adding "Education Spending Limits" added to the ballot above Prop 76 in an attempt to sway voters to vote "No." Talk about biased language...

Exactly. The advertinsg, both print and media for this election was absolutely appalling. Props to Arnold for not taking the low road. Unfortunately, his opponents did.

I have one ad I got in the mail. It shows a picture of Arnold being sworn into office, with his hand on the bible, and right above his picture it says


Support Arnold's
Reform Agenda
But
"NO" ON 77

It's blatant misinformation, attempting to trick the voters into thinking it was sent out by Arnold himself. I'm surprised they were allowed to use his image in that way.

The group was called "Citizens for Good Government" They are national, but this was issued locally out of Burbank.

I hope some representative gets on this bandwagon to try and stop Ads like this. Hell, all of the products on our store shelves have strict rules on what they call their product and how they are allowed to market and label it. Why not informational advertising that can have such a significant impact on our lives?

[DrDetroit]

This is rich...after posting the NOW and PFAW talking points memo re: Alito and having those talking points blown up in his face, BSmack is going to characterize Alito's views as "draconian."

Nice work, B...surely a perfect representation of your party.

[Mister Bushice]

He really had little chance against the unions and the politicians he was battling. It wasn't so much about money as it was about Deceit. The opponents just outright lied in their ads by telling half truths or none at all.

Like that wapner commercial. he left out the part that the people get to vote on all decisions made by the judges. He made it seem as if they were making final decisions. And the ad that showed several actors playing judges cuttting up the map of california. Those guys have been playing bad guy roles on TV for years in movies and soap operas.

Hey, but bottom line is that nobody else fucked us this time, we fucked ourselves.

[Variable]

Exactly. The advertinsg, both print and media for this election was absolutely appalling. Props to Arnold for not taking the low road. Unfortunately, his opponents did.

So much for Ahnnld's vaunted fundraising prowess. Dude got buried by union money.

The libs had him caught in a catch 22. He couldn't beat them without raising enough money to run ads touting his measures, but as soon as he started raising money, the libs said he was being "bought off by special interests."

Another dirty trick that the left pulled was they sent out anti-reform mailers in an envelope that said "Your polling place has changed" on the outside.

Which is why our resident dittochimps are hard at work trying to justify ballot initiatives in colonial America when it is clear to anyone with half a brain that initiatives, plebiscites or recalls would have been abhorred as examples of mob rule by our founding fathers.

Call it a hunch, but had a Republican governor been recalled in CA, you'd be singing a different tune.

The Proposition system is flawed, only in that you can run ads that claim anything you want, even if they blatantly lie.

The recall system is no more than the will of the people. There is no reason why citizens should be subjected to the rule of an incompetent leader until the next election rolls around. Remember, other than in OC and a few rural areas, CA is greatly dominanted by Democrats. A hell of a lot of them voted to recall a Democratic governor, so it's not like it was some partisan deal. It was democracy in action.