Demoncrat's backpeddaling on Iraq war....funny stuff..

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:48 pm

...not only on the record, but live and in color...just hit the play button and start your spin Libs'

http://www.gop.com/Default.aspx

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:01 pm

Biden - Made no case for war

Hillary - Made no case for war, just supported disarming Saddam

Edwards - no case for war, supported disarming saddam

Bayh - support efforts to disarm Saddam

I didn't note that a single one of them actually supported the invasion. Supporting disarmament is not the same. Disarmament was undergoing at the time the invasion began. The weapons inspectors were looking for weapons to destroy.

That had everyones support.

Hows that for spin? :)

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:08 pm

As spin, it weebles, wobbles, and falls down like a top reaching the end f it's run.

As blatant lies go, I haven't seen many as bold and disgraceful.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:11 pm

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:45 pm

Cuda wrote: I guess the best I accuracy I can hope for is to say the Dumbest Thing You've Ever Said will be... the next thing you say.

BSmack wrote:

As if on cue...

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:51 pm

Cuda wrote:As if on cue...

Bitch, even the GOP Senate is getting ready to throw Chimpy under the bus on this war.

http://www.forbes.com/business/feeds/af ... 38866.html

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:05 pm

Cuda wrote: I guess the best I accuracy I can hope for is to say the Dumbest Thing You've Ever Said will be... the next thing you say.

BMonica wrote:
Bitch, even the GOP Senate is getting ready to throw Chimpy under the bus on this war.

http://www.forbes.com/business/feeds/af ... 38866.html

Pavlov's Dog much?

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:11 pm

Did you fail to read the link and see the vote? Congress is decidedly tired of Bushs justification for this war, because the public is. It's time we make positive, visible moves to an exit strategy and turn over as much of the responsibilities of fighting the insurgents to the Iraqi people as is possible.
Of course it'll probably take 5 years to accomplish that, but we're still in the escalation stage of our involvement, according to the numbers of troop increases that have taken place over the last year.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:17 pm

BSmack wrote:

Step off, B.

That's my game you're playing there.

You're gonna have to start paying me "cuda" residuals.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:51 pm

Props on the jockrider, Martyred.

Variable · Post by **Variable** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:55 pm

Mister Bushice wrote:Did you fail to read the link and see the vote? Congress is decidedly tired of Bushs justification for this war, because the public is. It's time we make positive, visible moves to an exit strategy and turn over as much of the responsibilities of fighting the insurgents to the Iraqi people as is possible.
Of course it'll probably take 5 years to accomplish that, but we're still in the escalation stage of our involvement, according to the numbers of troop increases that have taken place over the last year.

No, what this is, is nothing more than the Republicans offering an alternative to Democrats demand for a concrete timetable to troop withdrawl.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:29 pm

True, however I think that it's also punishment for some of Bushs decisions, coupled with a fear among Repubs that if they don't address voters concerns to some extent they'll be walking next term elections.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:38 am

Administrations change. Foreign policy doesn't.

The only difference between American Likud Party and American Labour Party is the intern's dry-cleaning bill.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:13 am

Martyred wrote:
BSmack wrote:
Step off, B.

That's my game you're playing there.

You're gonna have to start paying me "cuda" residuals.

I've been kicking Cuda as long, if not longer than you. It's only fair that since he's the village idiot that everybody in the village get their shot.

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:19 am

Mister Bushice wrote:Biden - Made no case for war

Hillary - Made no case for war, just supported disarming Saddam

Edwards - no case for war, supported disarming saddam

Bayh - support efforts to disarm Saddam

I didn't note that a single one of them actually supported the invasion. Supporting disarmament is not the same. Disarmament was undergoing at the time the invasion began. The weapons inspectors were looking for weapons to destroy.

That had everyones support.

Hows that for spin? :)

BULL SHIP

Classic..the first one in "spin's" like a muthah, and the rest of the thread goes off topic faster than a dozen donut's disappear in Kansas City.

Did ya'll forget most the stars on that clip voted for the war??

well actually ALL of them did, so don't spin any bullsh*t about not making a case for war.

Or perhaps you can spin voting for the war when you're not making a case for it!

Let's face it Bushy, Chimpy's number's are in the dumper so every Dem in sight is jumping aboard the political bandwagon, and trying to distance themselve's from their vote. It's laughable

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:30 am

Wait a second...are you saying the Democrats are stupid because they went along with a stupid Bush administration plan?

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:53 am

Martyred wrote:Wait a second...are you saying the Democrats are stupid because they went along with a stupid Bush administration plan?

NO..I'm just saying they're politicaly expedient, AND stupid. You don't continue to lose election's while thinking your party is the only one that "get's it" without being stupid.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:00 am

ChargerMike wrote:
Martyred wrote:Wait a second...are you saying the Democrats are stupid because they went along with a stupid Bush administration plan?

NO..I'm just saying they're politicaly expedient, AND stupid. You don't continue to lose election's while thinking your party is the only one that "get's it" without being stupid.

Your whole arguement sounds like:

"I can't believe those Dems were stupid enough to go along with our poorly planned, ill-advised, falsely led Iraq policy!"

Seriously. You're not the first one to force this topic. I've been hearing this "talking point" for about three days now.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:01 am

Martyred wrote:Wait a second...are you saying the Democrats are stupid because they went along with a stupid Bush administration plan?

If he won't say it, I will. They should have been against this from the get go.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:07 am

BSmack wrote:
Martyred wrote:Wait a second...are you saying the Democrats are stupid because they went along with a stupid Bush administration plan?
If he won't say it, I will. They should have been against this from the get go.

And you wonder why your so-called "leftist" party is open to ridicule?

What a joke.

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:56 am

Martyred wrote:
BSmack wrote:
Martyred wrote:Wait a second...are you saying the Democrats are stupid because they went along with a stupid Bush administration plan?
If he won't say it, I will. They should have been against this from the get go.
And you wonder why your so-called "leftist" party is open to ridicule?

What a joke.

RACK......huh?..wait.... I'm racking Mar-Tay? ..YES

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:13 am

ChargerMike wrote:
Martyred wrote:
BSmack wrote: If he won't say it, I will. They should have been against this from the get go.
And you wonder why your so-called "leftist" party is open to ridicule?

What a joke.

RACK......huh?..wait.... I'm racking Mar-Tay? ..YES

A sign of desperation.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:08 pm

Martyred wrote:
BSmack wrote:If he won't say it, I will. They should have been against this from the get go.
And you wonder why your so-called "leftist" party is open to ridicule? What a joke.

I don't wonder at all. Back in 2003 while Bushice and other moderates were queing their Lee Greenwood CDs, I was calling this sham war exactly what it was. It should come as a surprise to nobody that one of the anti-war candidates of 2004 now controls the Democratic Party machinery.

Sirfindafold · Post by **Sirfindafold** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:21 pm

BSmack wrote: It should come as a surprise to nobody that one of the anti-war candidates of 2004 now controls the Democratic Party machinery.

A machine run by Howard Dean, Al Gore, Kucinich, Kennedy, Pelosi etc.

what a group.

What kind of machine would you liken that to?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:32 pm

Sirfindafold wrote:
BSmack wrote: It should come as a surprise to nobody that one of the anti-war candidates of 2004 now controls the Democratic Party machinery.

A machine run by Howard Dean, Al Gore, Kucinich, Kennedy, Pelosi etc.

what a group.

What kind of machine would you liken that to?

Other than Howard Dean and Nacy Pelosi, your list of "leaders" is woefuly inacurate.

But hey, feel free to amuse us with your Limbaugh Letter C&Ps.

Sirfindafold · Post by **Sirfindafold** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:40 pm

BSmack wrote:
Sirfindafold wrote:
BSmack wrote: It should come as a surprise to nobody that one of the anti-war candidates of 2004 now controls the Democratic Party machinery.

A machine run by Howard Dean, Al Gore, Kucinich, Kennedy, Pelosi etc.

what a group.

What kind of machine would you liken that to?
Other than Howard Dean and Nacy Pelosi, your list of "leaders" is woefuly inacurate.

But hey, feel free to amuse us with your Limbaugh Letter C&Ps.

Why won't you list them then?

embarassed?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:42 pm

Sirfindafold wrote:Why won't you list them then? embarassed?

You didn't ask. And now that you have, I don't fucking care enough to C&P them from the DNC website. So how about you do your own fucking background?.

Sirfindafold · Post by **Sirfindafold** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:43 pm

go fuck yourself.

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:26 pm

I'll list the one's who are front and center...

Rockefeller
Daschle
Santorum
Spector
Biden
Bayh
Kerry
Clinton
Schumer
Edwards

..wait... they all voted for war didn't they?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:56 pm

ChargerMike wrote:I'll list the one's who are front and center...

Rockefeller
Daschle
Santorum
Spector
Biden
Bayh
Kerry
Clinton
Schumer
Edwards

..wait... they all voted for war didn't they?

Mike,

Before you make Cuda look smart and well informed, could you take the names of the Republicans and the Democrats who are no longer in office off your list of "Democratic Leaders"?

TIA

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:00 pm

Sure I said Saddam definitely had WMD's, but I didn't believe it as strongly as Bush did

-sin
Schmuckie Schumer

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:32 pm

mvscal wrote:
Sirfindafold wrote: What kind of machine would you liken that to?

Unlike the Democratic Party, that car looks fixable.

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:00 am

ChargerMike wrote:I'll list the one's who are front and center...

Rockefeller
Daschle
Santorum
Spector
Biden
Bayh
Kerry
Clinton
Schumer
Edwards

..wait... they all voted for war didn't they?

certainly did not mean to include Santorum, and Spector, but the C/P caught em both along with Chuckie, and I failed to delete them. http://dir.yahoo.com/Government/U_S__Go ... ators/?o=a

I'll take the bitch-slap, KMOA, and oop's without a peep...touche'

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:53 pm

Am I reading this P_Ugh Crapfest correctly?

First you have a de$pot Admin who cons a Nation with their lies, and NOW as the Bu$h Corp BS begins to unravel, it's some how the fault of the Poli-Dems who got swindled beyond measure into believing the de$pot lies.

If these lawyer hearted tards are actually trying to place the blame for their elected monstrosity on the victims of deceit, then that is just too Freakin Rich.

Are they running out of excuses for their stupidy, or What?