Chiefs vs Dallas - Calling out Cowgirls Hoontah and DF

KC Scott · Post by **KC Scott** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:59 pm

After that less than inspiring performance vs. the Gnats,
I'm sure your both counting on a huge turnaround vs. KC.

My question is, if you can't stop Tiki Barber and a Rookie QB,
How do you plan on stopping Larry Johnson and an offense that ran over a Denver team that you laid down against on Thanksgiving?

Sig and Av bets for both of you?

Headhunter · Post by **Headhunter** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:02 pm

I'm in for Sig and AV bets, both.

The Cowboys D actually did a decent job yesterday. They made Manning look like shit and held the Giants "O" to 10 points. They also did a good job against the Donks "O" on T-Day. They also gave up a touchdown each game on offense, and in both cases that made all the difference in the world.

Keep the turn-overs down, and Dallas will beat KC. Mark my words.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:13 pm

Eli's not a rookie.

I like Dallas to win this game by three.

No sig or av bet 'cuz I'm not a 'boy fan, but I'll be 'happy' to send Scott and Paul their $20 for the bet we made on Oakland-KC that is now a wrap.

DallasFanatic · Post by **DallasFanatic** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:41 pm

Echo what HH said above. The Boys will need to keep their turnovers down, and the offensive playcalling has to be a bit more liberal. Runs up the middle did not work against the Broncos and Giants and most certainly won't work against this Chiefs defense. Terry Glenn and Patrick Crayton, yes I said Patrick Crayton, must have significant impacts in the passing game. If the Boys can get the Chiefs on their heels defensively, than we've all seen the end result - Chiefs loss.

On the defensive side of the ball, the Boys will have to get to Trint Green early. Knock him down a few times and he becomes Drew Bledsoe. Stopping Grandmama will be easy Scott and you know why? Scott Fujita.

Sorry, couldn't help myself with that one.

The Boys will lay it out on the line, because this is do or die for them. I expect the Boys to win, but like 10 of their 12 games, this one will be close.

Boys 27
Chiefs 24

I am in for sig/AV bets. Lets get this shit rolling Queef fan.

KC Scott · Post by **KC Scott** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:36 pm

I watched the Bengal Steeler game rather than the the Gnat Gurl snorefest, so only caught Tiki's breakaway on the highlight show.

Looking at the stats, It looks like Bleedso was less than stellar completing onlt 5 passes to his WR for 51 yds & 2 Ints. Toss in 4 sacks and it looks that Dallas air attack you two were yammering abot earlier this season has lost a wing.

On defense you let Tiki break off 115 yds. on 30 carries and I'll guarantee you Tiki is not near the back LJ is. The other glaring stat was only 1 sack for for the Stars, if you don't get some pressure on Trent Green, he will make you pay. I'll predict you see a lot of Play action passes as Dallas stacks the box to stop Johnson.

Not gonna happen.

Chiefs 27
Gurls 23

DallasFanatic · Post by **DallasFanatic** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:25 pm

The Boys don't need to STOP Larry Johnson Paul. They do need to contain him and I believe thats possible. Give him his 100 and a touch and knock the living piss out of Trint. I truly believe the Boys will have to create turnovers and work with a short field if they plan on beating the Queefs.

Oh and Paul, you are a fatfuck.

:D

KC Scott · Post by **KC Scott** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:18 pm

I think we are looking at similar teams, in similar playoff situations headed in opposite directions.

The Cowboys, to be successful, must run the ball and stop the run. Their last game highlighted their problems stopping a small quick runner like Tiki Barber. How would they expect to stop a 230lb freight train like LJ?

DF dismisses this with "Give LJ his Hundy and a TD".

Dude, if you don't stop LJ, you'll just see more LJ.
After you stack 8 in the box to do this, Trent will burn you with the play action.

On Offense, it's obvious Julius and Marion just are not getting the yards. The Gnats rank # 6 against the run, But the Chiefs rank # 5 and just shut down the Doinks.

What's even more surprising, the Gnats rank # 26 against the pass but Bleedso only got off for 146 yds.?

The Chiefs are at full strength, except for Priest who isn't really needed now.

Your "boyz' have already lost Ngyuen and Flo Adams for the season.

Like I said, similar teams going in different directions.

DallasFanatic · Post by **DallasFanatic** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:01 pm

Selective reading Scott? I said give LJ his hundy and a teeder with the premise that they "contain" him to just that. I'm not saying thats an easy task and quite frankly, can't shred your argument but the bottom line is we'll find out on sunday.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:10 am

DallasFanatic wrote:The Boys don't need to STOP Larry Johnson Paul. They do need to contain him and I believe thats possible.

All they need to do to stop LJ is put some grease on their jerseys to keep Tony Gonzales from getting a good grip

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:47 am

I'd take Tiki Barber over LJ every day of the week.

NO doubt about it.

Superior overall back.

Solo · Post by **Solo** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:54 am

Cowboys-30
KC-20

In for the sig/av bets, chief fan.

DallasFanatic · Post by **DallasFanatic** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:13 am

LJ is having a good year, no doubt about that. However he is nowhere near the complete back Tiki is. Have fun living this pipe dream Queef fan because it all goes downhill starting sunday

JHawkBCD · Post by **JHawkBCD** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:40 am

DallasFanatic wrote:However he is nowhere near the complete back Tiki is.

I disagree. Johnson's got the fumbling thing down just as good as Tiki.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:35 am

Chiefs beat the cowsnatches like rented mules, or like Coods on an ordinary weekend of debauchery.

Qbert · Post by **Qbert** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:47 am

JHawkBCD wrote:
DallasFanatic wrote:However he is nowhere near the complete back Tiki is.
I disagree. Johnson's got the fumbling thing down just as good as Tiki.

:paul:winner winner....Chicken Dinner!!!!!! :paul:

Headhunter · Post by **Headhunter** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:31 pm

KC Paul 3.0 wrote:The Chiefs will RUN THE TABLE at home the rest of the season. And on the road they will do NO WORSE than 2-2. I can see them losing at Dallas and NY, but NOT at H-town or Buffalo. 11-5 should lock up the West:

11/06/05 Oakland Raiders- W
11/13/05 at Buffalo Bills- W
11/20/05 at Houston Texans- W
11/27/05 New England Patriots- W
12/04/05 Denver Broncos- W
12/11/05 at Dallas Cowboys- L
12/17/05 at New York Giants- L
12/24/05 San Diego Chargers- W
01/01/06 Cincinnati Bengals- W

KC Paul 3.0 wrote:Cool....an opportunity to EMBARRASS the Crackwagon on National TV.

Here's the deal CowGirlFan- you CAN'T stop Larry Johnson (then again, WHO CAN?), your QB is less mobile than the Eiffel Towel and will be teed off on by the likes of Jared Allen/Derrick Johnson/Sammy Knight/etc., and you won't be able to run on our defense. After the annual Mule BEATDOWN at Arrowhead, this one should go easier for us. I'll just go ahead and call it-

Chiefs- 31
CowGals- 17

So which is it, Ton's-o-fun?

DallasFanatic · Post by **DallasFanatic** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:51 pm

Paul was just being his normal self. Trying to cover both sides of the road to protect his sorry ass. Classic Paul, absolutely classic.

orcinus · Post by **orcinus** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:22 pm

BBMarley · Post by **BBMarley** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:26 pm

JHawkBCD wrote:
DallasFanatic wrote: I disagree. Johnson's got the fumbling thing down just as good as Tiki.

Tiki doesn't fumble the ball anywhere near as much as he used to. Last year he changed the way he held the ball and greatly cut down on his fumbles.

DallasFanatic · Post by **DallasFanatic** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:28 pm

You're not allowed to participate in this weeks events Orc. We have put you on a one weeks suspension for actions (lack of AV/sig to Patsfan) detrimental to your fanbase.

Please feel free to rejoin your fanbase upon the completion of the Cowboys win over the Queefs.

:D

Headhunter · Post by **Headhunter** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:36 pm

orcinus wrote:In

Somebody (or a group of somebodies) are gonna be hurtin' on Monday!

Weather is looking Shitty in Dallas as well! Might be back up to the 60's by Sunday. Should be good times!

I expect the Cowboys are getting a solid ass kicking from Parcells this week after two straight let downs.

You hate to pin a game on a single player, but I think this week-ends game falls on the shoulders of one fella. The swing man, if you will. Torrin Tucker, who's filling in for Flozell Adams. He's done a semi decent job, but what he's done is not allow the line to help out rookie Rob Petiti on a regular basis, as they're drifting their double coverage towards the direction of the play. This also serves as a tell to the defense. If Tucker can protect consistently, I expect to see a return of the passing game as well as the ground game.

Cowboys 20
Chiefs 17

Mississippi Neck · Post by **Mississippi Neck** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:38 pm

KC Paul 3.0 wrote:Cool....an opportunity to EMBARRASS the Crackwagon on National TV.

Here's the deal CowGirlFan- you CAN'T stop Larry Johnson (then again, WHO CAN?......... apparently only a judge or jury of his peers can), your QB is less mobile than the Eiffel Towel and whats Trent Green...the vanilla Vick? ]

I dunno Paul..to paraphrase Kermit the Frog...it is easy beating Green

Cowboys 16

Chiefs 13

JHawkBCD · Post by **JHawkBCD** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:15 pm

DallasFanatic wrote:You're not allowed to participate in this weeks events Orc. We have put you on a one weeks suspension for actions (lack of AV/sig to Patsfan) detrimental to your fanbase.

Rack.

He's an inverse welcher.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:14 pm

JHawkBCD wrote:
DallasFanatic wrote:You're not allowed to participate in this weeks events Orc. We have put you on a one weeks suspension for actions (lack of AV/sig to Patsfan) detrimental to your fanbase.
Rack.

He's an inverse welcher.

Patsfan's av is next up- just as soon as he's finished with the bunny avatars. Should be ready soon

JHawkBCD · Post by **JHawkBCD** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:33 am

KC wins by 13

KC 27
DAL 14

Two missed FG's for Dallas.

KC Scott · Post by **KC Scott** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:54 am

DallasFanatic wrote: I'm not saying thats an easy task and quite frankly, can't shred your argument but the bottom line is we'll find out on sunday.

DSL Connection: $20 per Month
IBM Thinkpad: $ 1,700
Leaving DF Speechless: Priceless

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 2:07 am

DallasFanatic wrote: On the defensive side of the ball, the Boys will have to get to Trint Green early. Knock him down a few times and he becomes Drew Bledsoe.

Good luck with that.

In the last 3 games (all victories, btw), Trent has enjoyed excellent protection and I don't believe he's been sacked once. Having a 100% healthy Willie Roaf guarding your back will do that for a QB.

Scott pretty much nailed it when he said that if you put 8 in the box to stop LJ (which is what you'd have to do), Trent will have a field day passing down field to wide open receivers.

Pick your poison, Cow-snatches. This veteran Chiefs team is on a serious roll right now and the goal is in sight.

As for Bleedslow, look for Warfield to get at least one pick as that statue hurriedly tries to get rid of the ball before getting laid out yet again by the Chiefs D-line.

KC 24
Dallass 13

In for any and all sig bets.

kcdave · Post by **kcdave** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:04 am

Decent thread thus far, sorry if my post kills it.

Dallas is a mediocre team that has the ability to play better than they really are, and win games that they should not.

KC is far and away a better team, but twice this season, they have found ways to lose games they should have won.

Im taking KC w/ my -4.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:50 pm

kiss of death

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:59 pm

poptart wrote:kiss of death

Yep.

Dammit.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:27 pm

The zebras stole the game from Oakland today.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:36 pm

It was particularly awful today, Paul.

We played GREAT but got screwed all over the field.

I give up.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:24 am

Late flag.

Where was the infraction....?

uhh....

ok :?

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:25 am

this thread got awefully quiet

Bear Hugging the TE is a NO NO in NFL.

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:35 am

Noooooooooooooooooooooo GoooooooooooooooooooooooooD

Sirfindafold · Post by **Sirfindafold** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:43 am

Even the Raiders beat Dallas this year!!!

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:45 am

What a fucking heartbreaker.

Props to da' Boys.

Helluva game. Too bad Surtain couldn't handle a sure INT for a TD the other way.

This game shouldn't have even been close.

This hurts. Bad.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:49 am

War Wagon wrote:This game shouldn't have even been close.

I sort of agree.

Dallas is a 'decent' team.

The thing is, in the NFL, to beat a 'decent' team at their home park you've got to play a 'clean' game.

KC didn't quite play clean enough.

Green's fumble play hurt a lot, and let's face it, the Chef defense gave up too many big-gainers.

Nice win for the 'boys, a real stinger for the Chefs.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:53 am

Oh, and that holding call on 4th and goal was bullshit. You are allowed to mug the receiver with-in 5 yards. Fucking zebra waits until the play is completely over before tossing the flag.

I hate pointing at one bad call as a reason for losing, but that should've ended the game right there.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:00 am

War Wagon wrote:Oh, and that holding call on 4th and goal was bullshit. You are allowed to mug the receiver with-in 5 yards. Fucking zebra waits until the play is completely over before tossing the flag.

I hate pointing at one bad call as a reason for losing, but that should've ended the game right there.

You can mug BUT NOT hold him like that. That was the correct call. He was CLEARLY held.

Guys, don't give up 450+ yards on defense and maybe you will actually go places. Your coach is so infatuated with offense that he forgets defense and well....you lose shootouts.