Hawkins to CU

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan · Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:04 pm

According to insider sources (my mom just called me), it's a done deal. Press conference scheduled for later today...

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:30 pm

I'll give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but I remember what happened the last time they disregarded the guy Mac reccommended: They hired Little Ricky instead of Bob Simmons

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan · Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:38 pm

Cuda wrote:I'll give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but I remember what happened the last time they disregarded the guy Mac reccommended: They hired Little Ricky instead of Bob Simmons

True, but it ain't like Bob Simmons turned out to be a head coaching genius either. In terms of Xs & Os, they probably made the right choice back then. They just didn't realize all the extra BS Neuheisel would bring.

I'm kind of glad they went outside the CU family and got an up and coming coach. As long as Shawn Watson is gone, we'll be better off.

War Stoops · Post by **War Stoops** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 12:18 am

Great hire, IMO. Hawkins seems to be a PERFECT fit for Colorado. I see continued domination of the North Division by the Buffs. Congrats, Mike.

Waz · Post by **Waz** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:21 am

War Stoops wrote:Great hire, IMO. Hawkins seems to be a PERFECT fit for Colorado. I see continued domination of the North Division by the Buffs. Congrats, Mike.

Agreed

Cornhusker · Post by **Cornhusker** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:39 am

War Stoops wrote:Great hire, IMO. Hawkins seems to be a PERFECT fit for Colorado. I see continued domination of the North Division by the Buffs. Congrats, Mike.

You're kiddin' right?....and you base this on Colorado's state of the art facilities,
non-sellout crowds' ('cept when NU is in town) in the smallest venue in the conference,
dominating fan support through-out the Denver / Boulder area

,
liberal pot smoking attitude that attracts parents to send their kid there?
Personally, I think it's a death sentence for Hawkins' career.
Wrong place at the wrong time.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:24 am

Damn good hire, Hawkins is going to produce one hell of a offense.

Does anyone know if Petersen is going with him. I heard the reason he has stayed this long at BSU is because he has a daughter who has some medical problems and they really like her doctor.

Cross Traffic · Post by **Cross Traffic** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:24 am

Hawkins is nothing but a back stabber. He signed a 5 year contract last year and asked for improved facilities, which BSU has provided. (planned stadium expansion to 40,000 , indoor practice facility that has just been completed) Instead of sticking around at BSU and building a perennial MNC contender (and probable entrance into an expanded Pac 10 along with Fresno State), he goes to a dead program at a financially bankrupt school in a weak division.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:26 am

Cornhusker wrote:
War Stoops wrote:Great hire, IMO. Hawkins seems to be a PERFECT fit for Colorado. I see continued domination of the North Division by the Buffs. Congrats, Mike.
You're kiddin' right?....and you base this on Colorado's state of the art facilities,
non-sellout crowds' ('cept when NU is in town) in the smallest venue in the conference,
dominating fan support through-out the Denver / Boulder area ,
liberal pot smoking attitude that attracts parents to send their kid there?
Personally, I think it's a death sentence for Hawkins' career.
Wrong place at the wrong time.

when was the last time Nebraska played in the conference championship with it's "state of the art" facilities, sellouts, and proper respectful sports fan attitudes?

and at least CU got the coach it wanted instead of settling for an NFL re-tread that promptly on more than one occasion embarrased both himself and the institution he represents on national TV......in the process of compiling a .500 record over two years.

i'm just funnin' ya husker; but i think it's a pretty good hire--all things being equal.

edit: Vito, word here (in CO.) is that Peterson is staying at Boise.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:32 am

Cross Traffic wrote:Hawkins is nothing but a back stabber. He signed a 5 year contract last year and asked for improved facilities, which BSU has provided. (planned stadium expansion to 40,000 , indoor practice facility that has just been completed) Instead of sticking around at BSU and building a perennial MNC contender (and probable entrance into an expanded Pac 10 along with Fresno State), he goes to a dead program at a financially bankrupt school in a weak division.

You do realize that BSU is in Idaho, you do realize there are about 10 other schools the PAC 10 will consider before BSU, those schools will be in states with more than 1 million TV sets. The only way BSU becomes a MNC contender is if global warming puts both the east coast and the west coast under water and BSU becomes a beach front campus.

Hawkins is moving up don't be a hater because he wants to compete against the best.

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan · Thu Dec 15, 2005 4:41 am

War Stoops wrote:Great hire, IMO. Hawkins seems to be a PERFECT fit for Colorado. I see continued domination of the North Division by the Buffs. Congrats, Mike.

I like the hire too, but if continued domination of the North were the goal, Barnett would still have a job. Hopefully Hawkins leads us to domination of the whole conference and a shot at another MNC in a few years. Keeping the handful of Colorado HS studs in-state (see White, Lendale) should be his first priority...

At Large · Post by **At Large** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 4:51 am

I think it's a good hire, but Hawkins will have his hands full in Colorado. I don't know how bare the cupboards are at CU, but I know they didn't exactly light up the recruiting rankings the last two years with their problems.

With that said, I think he'll be successful. Hopefully, he'll be the coach that will finally bring some respect to the CU/NU rivalry. It'll be interesting, that's for sure.

War Stoops · Post by **War Stoops** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:17 am

Cornhusker wrote:You're kiddin' right?....and you base this on Colorado's state of the art facilities,
non-sellout crowds' ('cept when NU is in town) in the smallest venue in the conference,
dominating fan support through-out the Denver / Boulder area ,
liberal pot smoking attitude that attracts parents to send their kid there?
Personally, I think it's a death sentence for Hawkins' career.
Wrong place at the wrong time.

No, as funny as that is, I'm not kiddin'. Colorado has won the Big 12 North four out of five years. I'd call that domination. Name me a coach in the North that is better than Hawkins. I might accept McCarney but certainly not Bill "Schnellenberger" Callahan. All the "facts" that you point to have been "facts" for the last five years, right? Yup...and Hawkins is an upgrade from Barnett. Sorry, Husker Fan, but you're fucked until Hillbilly Bill is gone.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:38 am

Well BC just made a nice jump in my bowl pool. Whether or not Hawkins coaches I can't see them bringing their A-game now.

Congrats to the buffs on a HUGE hire, I knew that Embree talk was overrated. You don't spend 3million to dump Barnett unless you are willing to spend on a definite upgrade.

I can understand BSU fan being pissed but I can't see being totally shocked. Boise joining the Pac is a considerable stretch, especially considering they made no move on Utah when Urban was there. I feel for you though, it sucks ass to lose a coach like that.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:48 am

i think Embree was the token black interview that was easy to smuggle in as a "former CU guy"....and keep the PR heat off the University and AD.

which has not been the university or AD's strongsuit of late. but, to be fair, i've never seen a place where the local media is so kneejerk anti-the state University. it's not just sports or Ward Churchill......beating up CU is the most time-honored, proven way to gain readers, cultivate political support, generate a lot of empty but efficient rhetoric or whatever.

on the other hand, the Broncos can do no wrong.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:51 am

The fact that BSU is keeping Peterson should keep the Bronco's offense running on cruise control. If Texas ever got rid of Greg Davis he is the guy I wanted as the replacement.

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:34 am

CU is not the great job everyone thinks it is

Hawkins has never got the stud recruits,CU isnt exactly hoarding in 5 star kids these days. I would say that Hawkins picked the wrong job opening.

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Cornhusker · Post by **Cornhusker** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:03 pm

War Stoops wrote:Colorado has won the Big 12 North four out of five years.

Yes they have.
And a very Merry Christmas to them! TWICE!

Lots a' Love
Bret Culbertson

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:44 pm

Adelpiero wrote:CU is not the great job everyone thinks it is

[knowwhatimeanverne?]It could be worse. A LOT worse.[/knowwhatimeanverne?]

Cross Traffic · Post by **Cross Traffic** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 2:18 pm

I'm happy for him, but had he waited another year, a much better job than the CU opening would have shown up.

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan · Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:47 pm

King Crimson wrote:but, to be fair, i've never seen a place where the local media is so kneejerk anti-the state University. it's not just sports or Ward Churchill......beating up CU is the most time-honored, proven way to gain readers, cultivate political support, generate a lot of empty but efficient rhetoric or whatever.

on the other hand, the Broncos can do no wrong.

Truer words have ne'er been spoken...

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 4:52 pm

Cross Traffic wrote:I'm happy for him, but had he waited another year, a much better job than the CU opening would have shown up.

I'd have to agree with you there, he probably could have held out for something better like a Tenn, Mich, or ATM. It does seem rather sudden. Maybe he just likes Boulder/Colorado, and figures if he can win at Boise he can win there as well. Hell McCartney built that program out of nothing, they are a name team with some tradition now. The last couple recruit classes being off will hurt production but the right coach can definitely win there. If I'm Hawkins I'm hitting-up some JUCO guys starting today.

Cornhusker · Post by **Cornhusker** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:21 pm

Danimal wrote:
Cross Traffic wrote:I'm happy for him, but had he waited another year, a much better job than the CU opening would have shown up.
I'd have to agree with you there, he probably could have held out for something better like a Tenn, Mich, or ATM. It does seem rather sudden. Maybe he just likes Boulder/Colorado, and figures if he can win at Boise he can win there as well. Hell McCartney built that program out of nothing, they are a name team with some tradition now. The last couple recruit classes being off will hurt production but the right coach can definitely win there. If I'm Hawkins I'm hitting-up some JUCO guys starting today.

I wouldn't give McCartney the credit for building CU's program out of nowhere.
Eddie Crowder was nails as a coach and held his own for many years at CU. In '71 he was ranked 3rd in the nation with a 10-2 record with only losses to OU ranked second and NU ranked first.
Colorado beat an undefeated OU 20-14 the following year.
As AD, he (Crowder) hired McCarney at Bo Schembechler's advise.
And I believe CU in is in the top 25 in all-time winning percentage.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:01 pm

Crowder is one of the most "forgotten" figures in Big 8 history. even in Colorado. he had a few top 20 teams. As did Bill Mallory in the mid/late 70's. Mallory split the Big 8 with OU and OSU in 76--and got waxed in the Orange Bowl agaisnt Ohio State.

Crowder is well-known in OK for being a QB for Wilkinson's teams--and having salty teams at CU. but, in Colorado, he's kind of a footnote to McCartney.

i see Eddie from time to time at the grocery store. heckuva nice guy.

War Stoops · Post by **War Stoops** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:56 pm

Cornhusker wrote:Yes they have.
And a very Merry Christmas to them! TWICE!

Lots a' Love
Bret Culbertson

True but Scoreboard.

Adelpiero wrote:CU is not the great job everyone thinks it is

Hawkins has never got the stud recruits,CU isnt exactly hoarding in 5 star kids these days. I would say that Hawkins picked the wrong job opening.

Tough for any coach to get the cream of the crop to Boise. I'd say Hawkins did a pretty good job with what he had. Colorado has a lot going for it. Solid in-state high school talent, beautiful campus, appealing lifestyle and entertainment choices, history of getting players out of California, etc. Plus, and this is key, they're in the freaking Big 12 North, which is only a notch above the WAC these days. Nebraska will always be a monster, even if they are in a down cycle for the time being. But I think Hawkins has the ability to take the program to the next level and challenge Oklahoma, Texas, and Nebraska for long-term dominance of the Conference.

Just sayin'...could be wrong.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:19 am

Cornhusker wrote: I wouldn't give McCartney the credit for building CU's program out of nowhere.

You've already established yout bona-fides as an idiot. There's no need for you to build on an already insurmountable lead.

When Chuck Fairbanks quit in mid season, he left CU with practically no legitimate D1 players at all. He hadn't recruited any fucking body his whole time there and by the time Mac was hired another recruiting class was down the shitter (that's in-door plumbing, btw) Mac took CU from being one of the worst college teams in the country to winning a National Championship (even though Tom Osborne saw fit to abandon "conference loyalty" and vote for GaTech)

As AD, he (Crowder) hired McCarney at Bo Schembechler's advise.

Actually, it was Bill Marolt who hired Mac. Crowder had retired by then.

And I believe CU in is in the top 25 in all-time winning percentage.

Yeah, despite Chuck Fairbanks's best-errr, worst-errr... whateverthefuck efforts.

Cornhusker · Post by **Cornhusker** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:59 pm

Cuda wrote:
Cornhusker wrote: I wouldn't give McCartney the credit for building CU's program out of nowhere.
You've already established yout bona-fides as an idiot. There's no need for you to build on an already insurmountable lead.

When Chuck Fairbanks quit in mid season, he left CU with practically no legitimate D1 players at all. He hadn't recruited any fucking body his whole time there and by the time Mac was hired another recruiting class was down the shitter (that's in-door plumbing, btw) Mac took CU from being one of the worst college teams in the country to winning a National Championship (even though Tom Osborne saw fit to abandon "conference loyalty" and vote for GaTech)

I never said MacCartney didn't do well for CU. The fuckin' point was CU was on the CFB map (at some point in time) prior to his arrival and his daughter bouncing on football players.

As AD, he (Crowder) hired McCarney at Bo Schembechler's advise.
Actually, it was Bill Marolt who hired Mac. Crowder had retired by then.

I stand corrected...must admit I ? that when I typed it.

And I believe CU in is in the top 25 in all-time winning percentage

Yeah, despite Chuck Fairbanks's best-errr, worst-errr... whateverthefuck efforts.

This was to support the fact there was football at CU prior to your saviour.

I don't recall bringing Fairbanks into the conversation, but fit in what works for ya. I guess you figure CU football began during the Fairbanks era, huh?

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:33 pm

Further explanation would only further confuse you.

Cross Traffic · Post by **Cross Traffic** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:04 pm

Dueling news conferences here in Boise...CU starts their news conference and BSU starts their's a couple minutes later. Chris Petersen is the new head coach, the 10th in the history of the school.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:41 pm

the Hawkins/CU press conference was pretty impressive, IMHO.

Buff boards=ecstatic.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:22 am

King Crimson wrote:the Hawkins/CU press conference was pretty impressive, IMHO.

Buff boards=ecstatic.

Hawkins is a great get for CU, and a big loss for my alma mater......

This is not going to be an easy fix for Hawkins, but one thing I can absolutely guarantee Buff fans, he'll restore integrity to the program.

I've had the opportunity to talk to Hawkins a couple of times and he is without a doubt one of the nicest guys you'd ever meet. CU did themselves a good turn by hiring him.

Now, I'm just hoping that his son will choose to remain here in Boise playing for Chris Peterson, the guy that's coached him throughout his playing days.

The Buffs already have 6 QBs on scholarship, they don't need another.....