Let's do this, people.
I sense a trap here- for the Broncos, that is.
1. Despite having the best record in the AFC West, the Broncos aren't playing like the best team in the AFC West.
2. Historically, the Raiders play the Broncos tough, regardless of their respective records
3. For whatever reason, the altitude just hasn't been as big an advantage for Denver as it has been in the past
I call it the way I see it and I see this as a game that's ripe for the Raiders to steal.
Broncos/Raiders
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The Assassin
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I see the Raiders,who have played like dogshit vs the Jets and the Browns, getting their asses kicked. Id like to see them play their asses off for their beleagured coach. But I dont see it happening. Lamont jordan isnt going to play,moss isn't %100, Collins sucks,our OL is a joke,and our defense cant stop the pass.
The mules need this game to get a bye,and Ratahan hates us. We lose big.
The mules need this game to get a bye,and Ratahan hates us. We lose big.
Al Davis=Fidel Castro
Norv-el the asswipe (sung to Frosty the Snowman)
Norv-el the asswipe was a clueless faggott twit,
With a stupid look and a brain so small,
and a neck with zit on zit.
Norv-el the asswipe is a fairy tale, I wish,
His gameplans blow and he makes no sense,
and his pants go squishy-squish.
There must have been some magic in
his Dallas days of yore
For when he interviewed the Owl went WOW,
he began to dance around.
O, Norv-el the asswipe
is a bumbling moron twat,
And the fans are pissed and he's still amiss
and on him I blow my snot.
Norv-el the asswipe knows he's canned come season's end,
So he said, "hey Carrie, this's YOUR team
now your crap I'll still defend."
Kick him to the curb, oh we know Al will,
just two more weeks of pain
and season's done, thank God or I might KILL.
He led this team to it's disgrace,
right to the western hole
And he's be ooooh-and-six, and that sucks dicks,
When Rat shoves it in his face.
Norv-el the asswipe had to hurry on his way,
But he waved goodbye saying, "I won't cry"
I'll coach arena ball some day".
Thumpety thump thump, thumpety thump thump,
Look at Norv-el go.
Thumpety thump thump, thumpety thump thump,
Jizz-coated like a ho.
Norv-el the asswipe was a clueless faggott twit,
With a stupid look and a brain so small,
and a neck with zit on zit.
Norv-el the asswipe is a fairy tale, I wish,
His gameplans blow and he makes no sense,
and his pants go squishy-squish.
There must have been some magic in
his Dallas days of yore
For when he interviewed the Owl went WOW,
he began to dance around.
O, Norv-el the asswipe
is a bumbling moron twat,
And the fans are pissed and he's still amiss
and on him I blow my snot.
Norv-el the asswipe knows he's canned come season's end,
So he said, "hey Carrie, this's YOUR team
now your crap I'll still defend."
Kick him to the curb, oh we know Al will,
just two more weeks of pain
and season's done, thank God or I might KILL.
He led this team to it's disgrace,
right to the western hole
And he's be ooooh-and-six, and that sucks dicks,
When Rat shoves it in his face.
Norv-el the asswipe had to hurry on his way,
But he waved goodbye saying, "I won't cry"
I'll coach arena ball some day".
Thumpety thump thump, thumpety thump thump,
Look at Norv-el go.
Thumpety thump thump, thumpety thump thump,
Jizz-coated like a ho.
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...I'm hoping the Raiduhs realize they will be playing for Norv's job....no wait, that would result in a lay-down and a viscious pounding. I hope the Raiduh's come out flying all over the field with the idea of impressing a possible replacement for Norvious, yeah that's the ticket.
I see Derrick Burgess putting a K.O. hit on the Snake, and Dungver forced into panic mode.
Come on Raider Brothers, join with me in puttinig the hex on the Rat.
Collins hits Moss twice and Gabriel once, L.J. goes for 120 and two, and shankowski hits a 53 yarder with 3 seconds left for the win.
I feel it baby, I feel it.
I see Derrick Burgess putting a K.O. hit on the Snake, and Dungver forced into panic mode.
Come on Raider Brothers, join with me in puttinig the hex on the Rat.
Collins hits Moss twice and Gabriel once, L.J. goes for 120 and two, and shankowski hits a 53 yarder with 3 seconds left for the win.
I feel it baby, I feel it.
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Jerry Porter will burn his personal bitch, chump bailey, for three scores. Zack Crockett steps in for an injured LaMont Jordan and goes for a 120 yards and a score.
Raiders - 34
donkeys - 17
Raiders - 34
donkeys - 17
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Yeah we all know that Shanny is never up for stomping his personal bitches into the ground.
The fact that we will wrap up the division doing so only makes it all the more sweet.
Not to mention the fact that Chokelands impending assraping will drop them to 0-6 in division ball for the season....Buwahahahahahaha!!!
The Chokeland Faiders: Official bitches of the entire AFC West!
So how's that Gruden trade working out for you fools?
A good coach doesn't matter in the slightest right Al?
The Faiders are looking up at the Cardnials at this point and the Faider head coaching job is about as desirable as a scorching case of herpes.
You will be just good enough to miss out on the USC sweepstakes as well and will be stuck drafting another cornerback most likely that will have minimal impact next season.
This game is a straight up rout, as someone said the Faiders mailed it in about six weeks ago and they are more concerned with getting home for the holidays then playing like they have a set of balls or something.
Plummer gets back on track, we run on everyone, and our defense will pressure Carrie into two turnovers.
Bronco Masters 45
Bitches 3
War 17-5.
Just pay him what you owe him and we might let you compete in a game one of these days.
The fact that we will wrap up the division doing so only makes it all the more sweet.
Not to mention the fact that Chokelands impending assraping will drop them to 0-6 in division ball for the season....Buwahahahahahaha!!!
The Chokeland Faiders: Official bitches of the entire AFC West!
So how's that Gruden trade working out for you fools?
A good coach doesn't matter in the slightest right Al?
The Faiders are looking up at the Cardnials at this point and the Faider head coaching job is about as desirable as a scorching case of herpes.
You will be just good enough to miss out on the USC sweepstakes as well and will be stuck drafting another cornerback most likely that will have minimal impact next season.
This game is a straight up rout, as someone said the Faiders mailed it in about six weeks ago and they are more concerned with getting home for the holidays then playing like they have a set of balls or something.
Plummer gets back on track, we run on everyone, and our defense will pressure Carrie into two turnovers.
Bronco Masters 45
Bitches 3
War 17-5.
Just pay him what you owe him and we might let you compete in a game one of these days.
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22-0 Broncos at this point.
Shanny is still blitzing those fat fucks on your O line into oblivion.
Pay the man Alice, you're getting to old for this shit.
The Faiders really stepped up their game this week didn't they?
I read somewhere that this will be the first team in Faider history to go winless in division.
Props to Faiderfan, the Chokeland misery continues.
17-5 bitches.
Shanny is still blitzing those fat fucks on your O line into oblivion.
Pay the man Alice, you're getting to old for this shit.
The Faiders really stepped up their game this week didn't they?
I read somewhere that this will be the first team in Faider history to go winless in division.
Props to Faiderfan, the Chokeland misery continues.
17-5 bitches.
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Goodbye Shanahan, hello years of misery
IT'S GOING to be a very Merry Christmas this year for coaches run off by Al Davis. A bunch of them are either going to the postseason or are in line to do so while Al sits home stewing over his mess of a team for a third straight holiday season.
Jon Gruden's Tampa Bay Buccaneers won a crucial game against Atlanta on Saturday and are one home win over New Orleans from winning the NFC South and clinching a playoff berth. John Fox, Raiders defensive coordinator under Mike White, is 10-5 as head coach at Carolina and also a victory away from the playoffs.
Chuck Bresnahan, defensive coordinator under Gruden and Bill Callahan, holds the same position with the playoff-bound Cincinnati Bengals as part of Marvin Lewis' impressive reclamation of that franchise.
Bob Casullo was special-teams coach under Gruden and Callahan and now holds the same position with the Seattle Seahawks, who nailed down home-field advantage throughout the NFC playoffs Saturday.
Good gracious, even Callahan is going to the postseason. His Nebraska team plays in the Alamo Bowl against Michigan on Wednesday.
Embarrassing for Al? Absolutely. Just a tad revealing? You bet. But all rolled into one, letting these coaches go elsewhere is a pimple on an elephant compared to Davis telling Mike Shanahan to take a hike as his head coach in 1989.
Of all the bad football decisions Davis has made since winning his last Super Bowl in 1984, that call stands as the worst — even worse than benching Marcus Allen — because he's still paying the price for it today and likely will continue to be haunted by it until his days as an NFL owner are finished. Rapidly mounting numbers of Raiders fans are hoping that will come soon.
With Denver's thorough 22-3 whipping of the Raiders on Saturday at Invesco Field, Shanahan improved his head coaching record against Oakland to 17-5. Since becoming the Broncos' head coach in 1995 — the same year the Raiders moved back to Oakland — he has beaten them at least once every year except 2002 and has swept the two-game series seven times, including this year.
But the Shanahan Curse goes way beyond the head-to-head nose-rubbing he has delivered to his former employers. The man's impeccable overall record, which is starting to take on a Hall of Fame sparkle, makes you wonder how Raiders history might have been altered if Davis had just demonstrated a little more patience and allowed his young prodigy to do his thing.
The Team Of The Decades might still be worthy of their self-proclaimed title instead of being mocked for it. Instead, Davis will be looking for his seventh head coach this off-season while the Broncos continue to rule the AFC West with this one little man Al so impulsively and foolishly let get away.
With Saturday's victory, Shanahan is 112-63 as Denver's head coach and will be taking his team to the playoffs for the seventh time since 1995. He has had one losing season in 11 years — 6-10 in 1999 in which he still beat Oakland twice — and has a 7-4 playoff record with two Super Bowl victories (he also won one as the San Francisco 49ers' offensive coordinator in 1994, beating the Raiders 44-14 in the opener that year).
The Raiders, over the same 11-year period, are 81-94. They've been to the playoffs just three times (where Gruden's impact is fairly undeniable) and have endured five losing seasons, including four in which they lost 11 times or more.
Shanahan's teams also have been incredible at home, 70-18 since 1995 under his direction, including 8-0 this year. The Raiders have lost 19 home games just since 2001.
Beyond all the numbers, which are overwhelming enough, Shanahan has demonstrated himself to be a better judge of talent and a far better builder of football teams than Davis over this same period. That has to grate on Al even more than the coaching record, because it's a direct comparison against him.
Offensively, nobody has consistently developed stronger running attacks than Shanahan. Even more impressively, he has done it with guys who were essentially afterthoughts in the draft like Terrell Davis and Mike Anderson. Likewise, the longtime Raiders-killer at receiver, Rod Smith, was plucked out of nowhere. Jason Elam, Denver's perennial Pro Bowl kicker, has proved to be a more consistent kicker from short and long range than Davis' prized first-round draft pick, Sebastian Janikowski.
Saturday's lopsided affair was just another log on the fire of Shanahan's dominance over Oakland and Davis. It's not likely to turn around, either. For all he's done, Shanahan is just 53 years old.
Forget all the speculation about what might have been if Davis had kept Gruden. What if he'd kept Shanahan? Maybe he'd be enjoying a very Merry Christmas himself, lording over the NFL like the old days instead of checking his latest list of possible coaching candidates from a position of stark humiliation.
Carl Steward can be reached at
IT'S GOING to be a very Merry Christmas this year for coaches run off by Al Davis. A bunch of them are either going to the postseason or are in line to do so while Al sits home stewing over his mess of a team for a third straight holiday season.
Jon Gruden's Tampa Bay Buccaneers won a crucial game against Atlanta on Saturday and are one home win over New Orleans from winning the NFC South and clinching a playoff berth. John Fox, Raiders defensive coordinator under Mike White, is 10-5 as head coach at Carolina and also a victory away from the playoffs.
Chuck Bresnahan, defensive coordinator under Gruden and Bill Callahan, holds the same position with the playoff-bound Cincinnati Bengals as part of Marvin Lewis' impressive reclamation of that franchise.
Bob Casullo was special-teams coach under Gruden and Callahan and now holds the same position with the Seattle Seahawks, who nailed down home-field advantage throughout the NFC playoffs Saturday.
Good gracious, even Callahan is going to the postseason. His Nebraska team plays in the Alamo Bowl against Michigan on Wednesday.
Embarrassing for Al? Absolutely. Just a tad revealing? You bet. But all rolled into one, letting these coaches go elsewhere is a pimple on an elephant compared to Davis telling Mike Shanahan to take a hike as his head coach in 1989.
Of all the bad football decisions Davis has made since winning his last Super Bowl in 1984, that call stands as the worst — even worse than benching Marcus Allen — because he's still paying the price for it today and likely will continue to be haunted by it until his days as an NFL owner are finished. Rapidly mounting numbers of Raiders fans are hoping that will come soon.
With Denver's thorough 22-3 whipping of the Raiders on Saturday at Invesco Field, Shanahan improved his head coaching record against Oakland to 17-5. Since becoming the Broncos' head coach in 1995 — the same year the Raiders moved back to Oakland — he has beaten them at least once every year except 2002 and has swept the two-game series seven times, including this year.
But the Shanahan Curse goes way beyond the head-to-head nose-rubbing he has delivered to his former employers. The man's impeccable overall record, which is starting to take on a Hall of Fame sparkle, makes you wonder how Raiders history might have been altered if Davis had just demonstrated a little more patience and allowed his young prodigy to do his thing.
The Team Of The Decades might still be worthy of their self-proclaimed title instead of being mocked for it. Instead, Davis will be looking for his seventh head coach this off-season while the Broncos continue to rule the AFC West with this one little man Al so impulsively and foolishly let get away.
With Saturday's victory, Shanahan is 112-63 as Denver's head coach and will be taking his team to the playoffs for the seventh time since 1995. He has had one losing season in 11 years — 6-10 in 1999 in which he still beat Oakland twice — and has a 7-4 playoff record with two Super Bowl victories (he also won one as the San Francisco 49ers' offensive coordinator in 1994, beating the Raiders 44-14 in the opener that year).
The Raiders, over the same 11-year period, are 81-94. They've been to the playoffs just three times (where Gruden's impact is fairly undeniable) and have endured five losing seasons, including four in which they lost 11 times or more.
Shanahan's teams also have been incredible at home, 70-18 since 1995 under his direction, including 8-0 this year. The Raiders have lost 19 home games just since 2001.
Beyond all the numbers, which are overwhelming enough, Shanahan has demonstrated himself to be a better judge of talent and a far better builder of football teams than Davis over this same period. That has to grate on Al even more than the coaching record, because it's a direct comparison against him.
Offensively, nobody has consistently developed stronger running attacks than Shanahan. Even more impressively, he has done it with guys who were essentially afterthoughts in the draft like Terrell Davis and Mike Anderson. Likewise, the longtime Raiders-killer at receiver, Rod Smith, was plucked out of nowhere. Jason Elam, Denver's perennial Pro Bowl kicker, has proved to be a more consistent kicker from short and long range than Davis' prized first-round draft pick, Sebastian Janikowski.
Saturday's lopsided affair was just another log on the fire of Shanahan's dominance over Oakland and Davis. It's not likely to turn around, either. For all he's done, Shanahan is just 53 years old.
Forget all the speculation about what might have been if Davis had kept Gruden. What if he'd kept Shanahan? Maybe he'd be enjoying a very Merry Christmas himself, lording over the NFL like the old days instead of checking his latest list of possible coaching candidates from a position of stark humiliation.
Carl Steward can be reached at
Al Davis=Fidel Castro
x infinityShanahan brilliantly coached Oakland to the tune of 8-12.
It's telling that after getting shown the door in Oakland he didn't get a head coaching gig until 6 yrs later.
Six fucking years later.
Why do you suppose that is...?
Rat became a very good coach in the NFL, anyone can recognize that, but to say Al fucked up on him is DUMB.
If Al is to blame for anything regarding rat it is in elevating him to HEAD COACH before he was ready for that position.
Go ahead and blame Al for THAT.
THAT has merit.
Rat was too young and too green, and the fact that he didn't get another sniff at a head coach gig clearly points that fact out.
The rest of this 'story' is your typical 'bash Al' load of horsehsit.
News flash.....
There are coaches ALL OVER THE FUCKING league on their 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc. stop who are having a measure of 'success'.
Happens all the time.
Chuck Bresnahan, Bob Casullo..... bwa....
Gruden......was a goner, Al got picks for him.
Gee, what a dumbass Al was.
Kick your team while it's down.
Brilliant.
Merry fucking Christmas.
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poptart wrote:
Shanahan brilliantly coached Oakland to the tune of 8-12.
It's telling that after getting shown the door in Oakland he didn't get a head coaching gig until 6 yrs later.
Six fucking years later.
Why do you suppose that is...?
Rat became a very good coach in the NFL, anyone can recognize that, but to say Al fucked up on him is DUMB.
If Al is to blame for anything regarding rat it is in elevating him to HEAD COACH before he was ready for that position.
Go ahead and blame Al for THAT.
THAT has merit.
Rat was too young and too green, and the fact that he didn't get another sniff at a head coach gig clearly points that fact out.
The rest of this 'story' is your typical 'bash Al' load of horsehsit.
News flash.....
There are coaches ALL OVER THE FUCKING league on their 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc. stop who are having a measure of 'success'.
Happens all the time.
Chuck Bresnahan, Bob Casullo..... bwa....
Gruden......was a goner, Al got picks for him.
Gee, what a dumbass Al was.
Kick your team while it's down.
Brilliant.
Merry fucking Christmas.
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poptart wrote:Norv-el the asswipe (sung to Frosty the Snowman)
Norv-el the asswipe was a clueless faggott twit,
With a stupid look and a brain so small,
and a neck with zit on zit.
Norv-el the asswipe is a fairy tale, I wish,
His gameplans blow and he makes no sense,
and his pants go squishy-squish.
There must have been some magic in
his Dallas days of yore
For when he interviewed the Owl went WOW,
he began to dance around.
O, Norv-el the asswipe
is a bumbling moron twat,
And the fans are pissed and he's still amiss
and on him I blow my snot.
Norv-el the asswipe knows he's canned come season's end,
So he said, "hey Carrie, this's YOUR team
now your crap I'll still defend."
Kick him to the curb, oh we know Al will,
just two more weeks of pain
and season's done, thank God or I might KILL.
He led this team to it's disgrace,
right to the western hole
And he's be ooooh-and-six, and that sucks dicks,
When Rat shoves it in his face.
Norv-el the asswipe had to hurry on his way,
But he waved goodbye saying, "I won't cry"
I'll coach arena ball some day".
Thumpety thump thump, thumpety thump thump,
Look at Norv-el go.
Thumpety thump thump, thumpety thump thump,
Jizz-coated like a ho.
So just when will Allison sack up and fire that less-than-high school quality coach of his?
kcdave wrote:kicked my own ass many times