Schedule next year
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Schedule next year
Post your team's schedule next year, and how you feel about their prospects of success. Should be interesting to compare things down the line.
PSU
September 2 Akron
big PSU win.
September 9 at Notre Dame
This will be a big hype game...possibly a season-maker for the winner. I think it'll be awfully tough for PSU to step in with a newish QB and win at ND. While I feel that PSU will have a nice team in '06, they will be cutting teeth at this point. Respectable loss for PSU.
September 16 Youngstown State
I hate this game on the schedule. I wish it were not permitted to schedule 1-AA teams. This will be like Killian swooping down on an m2 Cal thread. Big PSU win.
September 23 at Ohio State
Extrememly difficult test for PSU. I expect OSU to be ranked #1 or #2 at this point. Solid victory for the Buckeye Nation.
September 30 Northwestern
Bounceback game for PSU. Potentially a blowout for the Lions.
October 7 at Minnesota
Tight game, but PSU will have found an offensive stride, and the defense will be humming. PSU win. You KNOW Minny will be undefeated..and overrated.
October 14 Michigan
Grudgefest for the PSU Nation. I expect a solid PSU win, at long last.
October 21 Illinois
Blowout.
October 28 at Purdue
Quite possibly a tough one. We'll have to see if the Boilers can shore up their defense, and keep running out productive offenses. I'll go with a PSU win.
November 4 at Wisconsin
I see Wiscy pounding PSU at a point where the Lions are getting worn down. Possibly a tough game, but I am fairly sure this will be a PSU loss.
November 11 Temple
Hate this game on the schedule. PSU win, but without the semblance of glory.
November 18 Michigan State
This will be a disgusting, filthy beating. MSU cannot win at the Beav. Babs will be doing his yearly disappearing act, and MSU will be wondering what it takes to get out of their funk...Voodoo? Tearful, Jack Abramoff-type Baptist Conversions?
9-3 regular season
PSU
September 2 Akron
big PSU win.
September 9 at Notre Dame
This will be a big hype game...possibly a season-maker for the winner. I think it'll be awfully tough for PSU to step in with a newish QB and win at ND. While I feel that PSU will have a nice team in '06, they will be cutting teeth at this point. Respectable loss for PSU.
September 16 Youngstown State
I hate this game on the schedule. I wish it were not permitted to schedule 1-AA teams. This will be like Killian swooping down on an m2 Cal thread. Big PSU win.
September 23 at Ohio State
Extrememly difficult test for PSU. I expect OSU to be ranked #1 or #2 at this point. Solid victory for the Buckeye Nation.
September 30 Northwestern
Bounceback game for PSU. Potentially a blowout for the Lions.
October 7 at Minnesota
Tight game, but PSU will have found an offensive stride, and the defense will be humming. PSU win. You KNOW Minny will be undefeated..and overrated.
October 14 Michigan
Grudgefest for the PSU Nation. I expect a solid PSU win, at long last.
October 21 Illinois
Blowout.
October 28 at Purdue
Quite possibly a tough one. We'll have to see if the Boilers can shore up their defense, and keep running out productive offenses. I'll go with a PSU win.
November 4 at Wisconsin
I see Wiscy pounding PSU at a point where the Lions are getting worn down. Possibly a tough game, but I am fairly sure this will be a PSU loss.
November 11 Temple
Hate this game on the schedule. PSU win, but without the semblance of glory.
November 18 Michigan State
This will be a disgusting, filthy beating. MSU cannot win at the Beav. Babs will be doing his yearly disappearing act, and MSU will be wondering what it takes to get out of their funk...Voodoo? Tearful, Jack Abramoff-type Baptist Conversions?
9-3 regular season
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Provided we find a better QB and have better offensive play calling:
9/2 - vs. McNeese St - W
9/9 - vs. Florida International - W
9/16 - @ UCF - W
9/23 - @ Kansas - L
10/21 - @ North Carolina - W
Dates to be determined
@ WVU - L
@ Louisville - L
@ Cincinnati - W
vs. Pitt - W
vs. Syracuse - W
vs. UConn - W
vs. Rutgers - W
9/2 - vs. McNeese St - W
9/9 - vs. Florida International - W
9/16 - @ UCF - W
9/23 - @ Kansas - L
10/21 - @ North Carolina - W
Dates to be determined
@ WVU - L
@ Louisville - L
@ Cincinnati - W
vs. Pitt - W
vs. Syracuse - W
vs. UConn - W
vs. Rutgers - W
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S 02 @ Georgia Tech
Tough road game to open the season, but GT will be breaking in a new QB. Win for ND.
S 09 PENN STATE
Though game to open the home schedule. PSU will be replacing a lot of talent, especially in the defensive backfield. Because of that, win for ND.
S 16 MICHIGAN
Michigan doesn't play well in road openers and I have no confidence in a Lloyd Carr coached team when he goes against a better coach. Win for ND
S 23 @ Michigan St.
Tough game because this will (likely) be before MSU goes into their usual mid-season tail spin. ND has had recent success in Spartan Stadium, and I think revenge will be on their minds. Win for ND.
S 30 PURDUE
Tiller is in full melt down mode, and they replace a ton on defense. Win for ND.
O 07 STANFORD
Walt Harris. Stanford. Win for ND. (Before any of you {m2} bring up last years game, I realize what the score was. It was as dominating a game as OSU vs. ND, which I will readilly admit was an ass kicking)
O 21 UCLA
Tough one. Drew Olsen is gone, but Maurice Jones-Drew is back. And Ben Olsen was viewed by some as one of the best QB's to come out of high school. ND's offense should be clicking, and I expect a win for ND.
O 28 @ Navy (Baltimore)
Win for ND
N 04 NORTH CAROLINA
Win for ND
N 11 @ Air Force
Win for ND
N 18 ARMY
Win for ND
N 25 @ Southern Cal
Which leads us to this. USC ripped out ND's hearts the year before, can ND cap a perfect season by beating USC for the first time in 4 years? On the road? A lot will depend on the development of Booty/Sanchez, and if they can find a running game to replace Bush and possibly White. Heart says ND, head says way to close to call. I'll go with a last second, crusing loss knocking ND out of the NC picture.
11-1 regular season, spot in a BCS game, hopefully in Quinn's last game he knocks the bowl monkey off ND's back.
Extreemly homer? You betcha. But I fully expect ND to compete all year long for the NC. This is assuming they find a pass rusher, and their defense steps up and plays slightly better this year than last. I see 2, possibly 3 teams on this schedule that have as much or more talent than ND. USC, Michigan, and Penn State. Penn State is debateable because of the amount of experience/talent they lose, Michigan still has the great equalizer in Carr, and USC still has studs at every position.
So bring it on. I'm sure I'm going to get shit for this.
Tough road game to open the season, but GT will be breaking in a new QB. Win for ND.
S 09 PENN STATE
Though game to open the home schedule. PSU will be replacing a lot of talent, especially in the defensive backfield. Because of that, win for ND.
S 16 MICHIGAN
Michigan doesn't play well in road openers and I have no confidence in a Lloyd Carr coached team when he goes against a better coach. Win for ND
S 23 @ Michigan St.
Tough game because this will (likely) be before MSU goes into their usual mid-season tail spin. ND has had recent success in Spartan Stadium, and I think revenge will be on their minds. Win for ND.
S 30 PURDUE
Tiller is in full melt down mode, and they replace a ton on defense. Win for ND.
O 07 STANFORD
Walt Harris. Stanford. Win for ND. (Before any of you {m2} bring up last years game, I realize what the score was. It was as dominating a game as OSU vs. ND, which I will readilly admit was an ass kicking)
O 21 UCLA
Tough one. Drew Olsen is gone, but Maurice Jones-Drew is back. And Ben Olsen was viewed by some as one of the best QB's to come out of high school. ND's offense should be clicking, and I expect a win for ND.
O 28 @ Navy (Baltimore)
Win for ND
N 04 NORTH CAROLINA
Win for ND
N 11 @ Air Force
Win for ND
N 18 ARMY
Win for ND
N 25 @ Southern Cal
Which leads us to this. USC ripped out ND's hearts the year before, can ND cap a perfect season by beating USC for the first time in 4 years? On the road? A lot will depend on the development of Booty/Sanchez, and if they can find a running game to replace Bush and possibly White. Heart says ND, head says way to close to call. I'll go with a last second, crusing loss knocking ND out of the NC picture.
11-1 regular season, spot in a BCS game, hopefully in Quinn's last game he knocks the bowl monkey off ND's back.
Extreemly homer? You betcha. But I fully expect ND to compete all year long for the NC. This is assuming they find a pass rusher, and their defense steps up and plays slightly better this year than last. I see 2, possibly 3 teams on this schedule that have as much or more talent than ND. USC, Michigan, and Penn State. Penn State is debateable because of the amount of experience/talent they lose, Michigan still has the great equalizer in Carr, and USC still has studs at every position.
So bring it on. I'm sure I'm going to get shit for this.
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There's no doubt that PSU loses a lot, especially on defense. If PSU can't transition to a more offensive mindset to suit the talent, then they will likely perform well below my posted expectations.
There is suddenly again a great deal of talent at PSU, but depth chart assignations have been a little shaky in recent years. I'll hope this is another spot where there has been improvement.
There is suddenly again a great deal of talent at PSU, but depth chart assignations have been a little shaky in recent years. I'll hope this is another spot where there has been improvement.
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Well for Wisconsin they should pretty damn good next year, if Calhoun comes back for his Senior year. Their big losses in personel will be at WR where they lose Williams and Orr and their great lead fullback Bernstein. Still, Stocco has really turned into a quality QB ad the defense improveed a lot during the year and will be returning most of their starters.
@ Bowling Green
win for UW
@ Western Illinois
win for UW
Sand Diego State
win for UW
a (disappointingly) weak non-conference schedule, I don't much about any of these teams.
@ Michigan
I want to say Wisconsin wins this, but Wisconsin I don't think goes into the Big House and wins the Big 10 opener.
@ Indiana
Improved Indiana team, but Wisconisn wins.
Northwesetern
Wiscosnin wins
Minnesota
Without their bruising running game and at home, Wsconsin keeps the Axe.
@ Purdue
I predict a tough game, I think the program starts a bit of a turnaround, but Wisconsin wins.
Illinois
Wisconsin wins.
Penn State
PSU loses too much this year, especially their team leader Robinson. Wisconsin wins
@ Iowa
Tough call. Ferentz seems to have Wisconsins number. But Wisconsin proabably playing for the Big 10 title. Wiscosnin wins, goes 10-1 and Bielma gets the title his first year as coach.
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@ Bowling Green
win for UW
@ Western Illinois
win for UW
Sand Diego State
win for UW
a (disappointingly) weak non-conference schedule, I don't much about any of these teams.
@ Michigan
I want to say Wisconsin wins this, but Wisconsin I don't think goes into the Big House and wins the Big 10 opener.
@ Indiana
Improved Indiana team, but Wisconisn wins.
Northwesetern
Wiscosnin wins
Minnesota
Without their bruising running game and at home, Wsconsin keeps the Axe.
@ Purdue
I predict a tough game, I think the program starts a bit of a turnaround, but Wisconsin wins.
Illinois
Wisconsin wins.
Penn State
PSU loses too much this year, especially their team leader Robinson. Wisconsin wins
@ Iowa
Tough call. Ferentz seems to have Wisconsins number. But Wisconsin proabably playing for the Big 10 title. Wiscosnin wins, goes 10-1 and Bielma gets the title his first year as coach.
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OSU easily the favorite. PSU loses way too much, they won't even be second favorite.Shoalzie wrote:WolverineSteve wrote:Damn, first week of January and you guys already got me for 2-losses.
The offense should be strong again next year but that defense loses a couple more key guys. OSU and PSU are the favorites going into next year.
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Here is how Big Blue looks for next year.
Sept. 2 BALL STATE
Win, No Problem
Sept. 9 CENTRAL MICHIGAN
Win, No Problem
Sept. 16 at Notre Dame
Notre Dame will still be over hyped, Michigan will be a touchdown dog in this game. But, I think Michigan pulls off the upset, we have to.
Sept. 23 WISCONSIN*
Pay back in Ann Arbor. Michigan wins.
Sept. 30 at Minnesota*
Pay back again, in Minnesota this time. Michigan Wins.
Oct. 7 MICHIGAN STATE*
Michigan Doesn't lost at home to MSU and John L doesn't beat Michigan.
Oct. 14 at Penn State*
Pay back for Penn State, Michigan losses its first game.
Oct. 21 IOWA*
Michigan bounces back.
Oct. 28 NORTHWESTERN (HC)
Michigan handles Northwestern.
Nov. 4 Bye (will be filled soon)
This will be some Mid-Major or Division I-AA team filled during the summer. Michigan wins no problem.
Nov. 11 at Indiana*
Michigan wins no Problem.
Nov. 18 at Ohio State*
Ohio State wins to go to the National Championship. Michigan 10-2 goes to the Citrus Bowl.
Sept. 2 BALL STATE
Win, No Problem
Sept. 9 CENTRAL MICHIGAN
Win, No Problem
Sept. 16 at Notre Dame
Notre Dame will still be over hyped, Michigan will be a touchdown dog in this game. But, I think Michigan pulls off the upset, we have to.
Sept. 23 WISCONSIN*
Pay back in Ann Arbor. Michigan wins.
Sept. 30 at Minnesota*
Pay back again, in Minnesota this time. Michigan Wins.
Oct. 7 MICHIGAN STATE*
Michigan Doesn't lost at home to MSU and John L doesn't beat Michigan.
Oct. 14 at Penn State*
Pay back for Penn State, Michigan losses its first game.
Oct. 21 IOWA*
Michigan bounces back.
Oct. 28 NORTHWESTERN (HC)
Michigan handles Northwestern.
Nov. 4 Bye (will be filled soon)
This will be some Mid-Major or Division I-AA team filled during the summer. Michigan wins no problem.
Nov. 11 at Indiana*
Michigan wins no Problem.
Nov. 18 at Ohio State*
Ohio State wins to go to the National Championship. Michigan 10-2 goes to the Citrus Bowl.
Those who stay will be champions.
Losing Robinson will hurt for sure...Hali and Zemaitis are key losses on the defense. If Posluszny hangs around for his senior year, he'll be the preseason favorite for the Lombardi and Butkus. I just think the additude is back at Penn State and they can overcome a couple of important players graduating. I don't think this was a one year deal.
The Bucks lose a lot of great seniors...the big 3 LBs, Mangold, Salley, and Kudla and then throw in Holmes leaving a year early.
Michigan loses 39 seniors (includes: Watson, Woods, Stenavich, Riley, Massey, Massaquoi, Mason, Ecker, Barringer and Avant)...they'll be very green next year. Breaston is listed as a senior but I thought he was only a junior as a player. Gotta hope for more growth from Henne and Hart can stay healthy. Another year of growth for Grady will be exciting to watch. The defense really worries me though.
The Bucks lose a lot of great seniors...the big 3 LBs, Mangold, Salley, and Kudla and then throw in Holmes leaving a year early.
Michigan loses 39 seniors (includes: Watson, Woods, Stenavich, Riley, Massey, Massaquoi, Mason, Ecker, Barringer and Avant)...they'll be very green next year. Breaston is listed as a senior but I thought he was only a junior as a player. Gotta hope for more growth from Henne and Hart can stay healthy. Another year of growth for Grady will be exciting to watch. The defense really worries me though.
PSU was really transformed by a bunch of freshmen this year. If that can continue, they will be good...but either way, that early game at ND looks really tough.
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Nebraska's 2006 schedule
Date Opponent Site
TBA TBA (not announced yet)
Probably the rumored 1-aa tuneup game. Also another weak 1-a opponent for the 9/1 and 9/8 games.
Wins - 2-0
09/16 Southern Cal Los Angeles
I would like to think that with the loss of Bush, Leinert and maybe White that NU has a decent shot at winning, but for now, let's just pencil a loss.
Loss - 2-1
09/23 Troy Lincoln
Weak opponent.
Win 3-1
09/30 #Kansas Lincoln
Kansas will be tough, but NU should be tougher at home next year as Zac Taylor got into a groove that's given NU a lot of confidence that should carry them into next year.
Win 4-1
10/07 #Iowa State Ames
Iowa State is still Iowa State. They'll be tough as ISU returns almost every person on offense, but they lose 7 starters on defense. I don't think NU loses at Ames this year, but it willl be their toughest Big 12 North game.
Win 5-1
10/14 #Kansas State Manhattan
Kansas State has some major rebuilding to do and if they start recruit Josh Freeman for four years like Prince promised, then the first year will be brutal.
Win 6-1
10/21 #Texas Lincoln
If Vince Young stays, a definite loss. If he leaves, it'll be closer. Texas shouldn't have to reload much. I'll be fair and call it a loss.
Loss 6-2
10/28 #Oklahoma State Stillwater
Don't know how good they'll be. I'll call it a win.
Win 7-2
11/04 #Missouri Lincoln
Misery reloads with Chase Daniels, but it's in Lincoln where they never play well.
Win
8-2
11/11 #Texas A&M College Station
NU has not played well on the road in recent years. This one is hard to pick, but it could go either way, depending on how the new QB plays.
Let's be reasonable and call it a loss.
Loss 8-3
11/24* #Colorado Lincoln
Colorado also rebuilds this year with new coach and talent leaving after a few bad recruiting years what with the bad publicity.
Win 9-3
Wins Big 12 North and goes to Big 12 Championship game where they'll play either Texas or OU.
So I think that I've been pretty reasonable here. NU could lose another game (like ISU) and still win the Big 12 North. They have good, young talent returning on offense and will return a defense that was decimated by injuries at linebacker. They'll return two extremely talented linebackers that missed most of the games last season. Bottom line: the offense will be improved and the defense will be very tough.
Date Opponent Site
TBA TBA (not announced yet)
Probably the rumored 1-aa tuneup game. Also another weak 1-a opponent for the 9/1 and 9/8 games.
Wins - 2-0
09/16 Southern Cal Los Angeles
I would like to think that with the loss of Bush, Leinert and maybe White that NU has a decent shot at winning, but for now, let's just pencil a loss.
Loss - 2-1
09/23 Troy Lincoln
Weak opponent.
Win 3-1
09/30 #Kansas Lincoln
Kansas will be tough, but NU should be tougher at home next year as Zac Taylor got into a groove that's given NU a lot of confidence that should carry them into next year.
Win 4-1
10/07 #Iowa State Ames
Iowa State is still Iowa State. They'll be tough as ISU returns almost every person on offense, but they lose 7 starters on defense. I don't think NU loses at Ames this year, but it willl be their toughest Big 12 North game.
Win 5-1
10/14 #Kansas State Manhattan
Kansas State has some major rebuilding to do and if they start recruit Josh Freeman for four years like Prince promised, then the first year will be brutal.
Win 6-1
10/21 #Texas Lincoln
If Vince Young stays, a definite loss. If he leaves, it'll be closer. Texas shouldn't have to reload much. I'll be fair and call it a loss.
Loss 6-2
10/28 #Oklahoma State Stillwater
Don't know how good they'll be. I'll call it a win.
Win 7-2
11/04 #Missouri Lincoln
Misery reloads with Chase Daniels, but it's in Lincoln where they never play well.
Win
8-2
11/11 #Texas A&M College Station
NU has not played well on the road in recent years. This one is hard to pick, but it could go either way, depending on how the new QB plays.
Let's be reasonable and call it a loss.
Loss 8-3
11/24* #Colorado Lincoln
Colorado also rebuilds this year with new coach and talent leaving after a few bad recruiting years what with the bad publicity.
Win 9-3
Wins Big 12 North and goes to Big 12 Championship game where they'll play either Texas or OU.
So I think that I've been pretty reasonable here. NU could lose another game (like ISU) and still win the Big 12 North. They have good, young talent returning on offense and will return a defense that was decimated by injuries at linebacker. They'll return two extremely talented linebackers that missed most of the games last season. Bottom line: the offense will be improved and the defense will be very tough.
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9/2/05 vs. TBA
9/9/05 vs. Washington
No TCU-like letdown in this one. OU by 3TDs.
9/16/05 at Oregon
The Ducks will be looking for payback and may be the best team in the Pac 10, depending on how well USC reloads. OU matches up well but will be an underdog. I'm predicting a close loss in this one.
9/23/05 vs. UAB
Since Mack Brown has finally gotten the OU monkey off his back, maybe the Sooners can start picking on his brother. UAB is tough but won't win in Norman.
9/30/05 at Oklahoma State
Stillwater is always scary for Sooner fan but Mike Gundy isn't Les Miles. OU wins in a statement game before the Red River Shootout.
10/7/05 vs. Texas (at Dallas)
Vince Young stays and Texas wins easily. If he leaves, I like Oklahoma in a very close, upset win. Please God, let Vince Young leave.
10/14/05 vs. Iowa State
Tough game for the week after OU-Texas. OU wins a sloppy game with a 4th quarter comeback.
10/21/05 vs. Colorado
OU in another close home win.
10/28/05 at Missouri
No Brad Smith = no chance for Mizzu.
11/4/05 at Texas A&M
Who knows what aTm will be like next year. This game is always wild in College Station. I'm predicting a late win for Texas A&M.
11/11/05 vs. Texas Tech
Fuck the Ref Raiders. OU in a big way.
11/18/05 at Baylor
No longer an automatic win...but a win none the less.
12/2/05 vs. Nebraska (Big 12 Title Game)
Conference Title number 4 for Bob Stoops.
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That's 11-2 going into the BCS, because I think Vince is gone.
9/9/05 vs. Washington
No TCU-like letdown in this one. OU by 3TDs.
9/16/05 at Oregon
The Ducks will be looking for payback and may be the best team in the Pac 10, depending on how well USC reloads. OU matches up well but will be an underdog. I'm predicting a close loss in this one.
9/23/05 vs. UAB
Since Mack Brown has finally gotten the OU monkey off his back, maybe the Sooners can start picking on his brother. UAB is tough but won't win in Norman.
9/30/05 at Oklahoma State
Stillwater is always scary for Sooner fan but Mike Gundy isn't Les Miles. OU wins in a statement game before the Red River Shootout.
10/7/05 vs. Texas (at Dallas)
Vince Young stays and Texas wins easily. If he leaves, I like Oklahoma in a very close, upset win. Please God, let Vince Young leave.
10/14/05 vs. Iowa State
Tough game for the week after OU-Texas. OU wins a sloppy game with a 4th quarter comeback.
10/21/05 vs. Colorado
OU in another close home win.
10/28/05 at Missouri
No Brad Smith = no chance for Mizzu.
11/4/05 at Texas A&M
Who knows what aTm will be like next year. This game is always wild in College Station. I'm predicting a late win for Texas A&M.
11/11/05 vs. Texas Tech
Fuck the Ref Raiders. OU in a big way.
11/18/05 at Baylor
No longer an automatic win...but a win none the less.
12/2/05 vs. Nebraska (Big 12 Title Game)
Conference Title number 4 for Bob Stoops.
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That's 11-2 going into the BCS, because I think Vince is gone.
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I'm sure somebody will call me a homer, but I'd go along with the first 11 predictions. And I think (although maybe it's my heart calling this one) that this is the year we end 'SC's winning streak. Maybe this is just me, but I think last year's game was important in that it proved to this team that they are capable of beating 'SC. And I also think that 'SC just has too many studs they need to replace. That could change, however, if Bush or White elects to return.Killian wrote:S 02 @ Georgia Tech
Tough road game to open the season, but GT will be breaking in a new QB. Win for ND.
S 09 PENN STATE
Though game to open the home schedule. PSU will be replacing a lot of talent, especially in the defensive backfield. Because of that, win for ND.
S 16 MICHIGAN
Michigan doesn't play well in road openers and I have no confidence in a Lloyd Carr coached team when he goes against a better coach. Win for ND
S 23 @ Michigan St.
Tough game because this will (likely) be before MSU goes into their usual mid-season tail spin. ND has had recent success in Spartan Stadium, and I think revenge will be on their minds. Win for ND.
S 30 PURDUE
Tiller is in full melt down mode, and they replace a ton on defense. Win for ND.
O 07 STANFORD
Walt Harris. Stanford. Win for ND. (Before any of you {m2} bring up last years game, I realize what the score was. It was as dominating a game as OSU vs. ND, which I will readilly admit was an ass kicking)
O 21 UCLA
Tough one. Drew Olsen is gone, but Maurice Jones-Drew is back. And Ben Olsen was viewed by some as one of the best QB's to come out of high school. ND's offense should be clicking, and I expect a win for ND.
O 28 @ Navy (Baltimore)
Win for ND
N 04 NORTH CAROLINA
Win for ND
N 11 @ Air Force
Win for ND
N 18 ARMY
Win for ND
N 25 @ Southern Cal
Which leads us to this. USC ripped out ND's hearts the year before, can ND cap a perfect season by beating USC for the first time in 4 years? On the road? A lot will depend on the development of Booty/Sanchez, and if they can find a running game to replace Bush and possibly White. Heart says ND, head says way to close to call. I'll go with a last second, crusing loss knocking ND out of the NC picture.
11-1 regular season, spot in a BCS game, hopefully in Quinn's last game he knocks the bowl monkey off ND's back.
Extreemly homer? You betcha. But I fully expect ND to compete all year long for the NC. This is assuming they find a pass rusher, and their defense steps up and plays slightly better this year than last. I see 2, possibly 3 teams on this schedule that have as much or more talent than ND. USC, Michigan, and Penn State. Penn State is debateable because of the amount of experience/talent they lose, Michigan still has the great equalizer in Carr, and USC still has studs at every position.
So bring it on. I'm sure I'm going to get shit for this.
If I'm looking at worst case scenarios, I see Penn State, Michigan (Lloyd Carr or no, there's always enough talent there for that team to be dangerous) and USC as significant stumbling blocks, and of course, there's always the possibility that ND could lose to one of the mid-tier teams on their schedule (Michigan State, UCLA, Georgia Tech or Purdue, in descending order of possibility) whom they should beat, although I can't see us dropping more than one of these games. So 8-4 is worst case, 12-0 and (possibly) a bid in the Fiesta Bowl next season is best case, imho.
I'm sure I'll get shit for that prediction.
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Fwiw, I'm glad to see Georgia Tech and Penn State back on the schedule next year -- two old-school rivals whose series with ND ended, unfortunately, when both joined conferences.
Times have changed, not necessarily for the better, in that regard.
Times have changed, not necessarily for the better, in that regard.
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Re: Schedule next year
And now that the BCS has been with us a few years, some precedents have been set -- one of them being it doesn't matter how you do in the other 10 games, if you cut a AA program a break and let them make some cash, you're automatically snubbed by the BCS. I wonder if they realize how shortsighted that policy is?PSUFAN wrote: September 16 Youngstown State
I hate this game on the schedule. I wish it were not permitted to schedule 1-AA teams. This will be like Killian swooping down on an m2 Cal thread. Big PSU win.
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losing players doesn't always sound ominouse. i'm sure herrmann will find some other slow-footed fat fucker to fill in for those who "graduated."Shoalzie wrote:WolverineSteve wrote:Damn, first week of January and you guys already got me for 2-losses.
The offense should be strong again next year but that defense loses a couple more key guys. OSU and PSU are the favorites going into next year.
now time for optimism: carr's not getting pushed out, but there's talk, w/in close circles, that a coordinator overhaul is in place. BYE, jim.
Bring back John Cooper!!! He's the only OSU coach we've had a winning record against since the Korean War!
Next year, Oregon's OOC --
Fresno State -- You know, this is starting to get old. Fresno State hasn't beaten Oregon since Ronald Reagan first took office, I think, but Oregon will win by 3, just like every other time these teams play.
OU, in Eugene -- 'nuff said.
Utah State -- oooh, boy!!!
Other than that, this is the first time that I can think of when Oregon will play every other PAC10 team in a season. Previously with the 11 game schedule, one conference team was skipped every year, that team not being the regional rival, which PAC teams play every year. Some teams like USC and maybe WSU and OSU might have a little dropoff, wgereas Stanford and Arizona showed marked improvement as last season went on, and UDub HAS to get better, since they can't get any worse, so we'll see how the conference season works out.
I'm already stoked for it, though.
Fresno State -- You know, this is starting to get old. Fresno State hasn't beaten Oregon since Ronald Reagan first took office, I think, but Oregon will win by 3, just like every other time these teams play.
OU, in Eugene -- 'nuff said.
Utah State -- oooh, boy!!!
Other than that, this is the first time that I can think of when Oregon will play every other PAC10 team in a season. Previously with the 11 game schedule, one conference team was skipped every year, that team not being the regional rival, which PAC teams play every year. Some teams like USC and maybe WSU and OSU might have a little dropoff, wgereas Stanford and Arizona showed marked improvement as last season went on, and UDub HAS to get better, since they can't get any worse, so we'll see how the conference season works out.
I'm already stoked for it, though.
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The last time UM lost as many games as this year was 1985. They followed up that year with a 10-1-1 campaign, a year that featured wins over ND,MSU, OSU and culminated with a win in the Fiesta Bowl. So with that precedence...
Ball St.-Name the score
Central Mich-See above.
@Notre Dame-UM in a shootout
Wisconsin-No Alvarez...no chance.
@Minnie-Bring back the Jug
MSU-Thank God for John LLLLL
@PSU-8 in a row.
Iowa-With most of this years team playing on Sundays, UM wins.
NW-Gimmicky offense has been solved.
TBA-Should schedule a yawner.
@IU-Please. ^^might give us a better game.
@OSU-for the sake of the rivalry, we win one in the shoe.
There it is. Undefeated and headed to wherever the Fiesta Bowl has moved...paging Brent Musberger.
GO BLUE!!
Ball St.-Name the score
Central Mich-See above.
@Notre Dame-UM in a shootout
Wisconsin-No Alvarez...no chance.
@Minnie-Bring back the Jug
MSU-Thank God for John LLLLL
@PSU-8 in a row.
Iowa-With most of this years team playing on Sundays, UM wins.
NW-Gimmicky offense has been solved.
TBA-Should schedule a yawner.
@IU-Please. ^^might give us a better game.
@OSU-for the sake of the rivalry, we win one in the shoe.
There it is. Undefeated and headed to wherever the Fiesta Bowl has moved...paging Brent Musberger.
GO BLUE!!
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As long as no Juniors declair Texas returns 7 starters on defense and 8 starters on offense. Key losses: Defense, Rod Wright, Aaron Harris, Michael Huff, and Ced Griffith. Offense; Jon Scott, Will Allen, and David Thomas. Juniors that could declair: Justin Blalock and Vince Young
NORTH TEXAS - Texas could beat this team without a QB
OHIO STATE - Vince stays we win, Vince goes we lose.
at Rice - See North Texas
IOWA STATE - Struggle but a win
SAM HOUSTON STATE - See UNT
vs. Oklahoma (Dallas) - Vince stays we win, Vince goes this is a tossup.
BAYLOR - Texas wins going away
at Nebraska - Texas is too athletic for Nebraska, Texas beats them by running over them old Nebraska style.
at Texas Tech - This is another Vince Young sepcial, he stays we win, he goes we probably lose.
OKLAHOMA STATE - By this game the loss of Vince should be less painful. Texas wins either way.
at Kansas State Texas wins going away
TEXAS A&M - This ain't in College station so Texas wins no matter who is QB.
If Vince stays Texas runs the table if Vince leaves Texas drops 2 or 3 games.
NORTH TEXAS - Texas could beat this team without a QB
OHIO STATE - Vince stays we win, Vince goes we lose.
at Rice - See North Texas
IOWA STATE - Struggle but a win
SAM HOUSTON STATE - See UNT
vs. Oklahoma (Dallas) - Vince stays we win, Vince goes this is a tossup.
BAYLOR - Texas wins going away
at Nebraska - Texas is too athletic for Nebraska, Texas beats them by running over them old Nebraska style.
at Texas Tech - This is another Vince Young sepcial, he stays we win, he goes we probably lose.
OKLAHOMA STATE - By this game the loss of Vince should be less painful. Texas wins either way.
at Kansas State Texas wins going away
TEXAS A&M - This ain't in College station so Texas wins no matter who is QB.
If Vince stays Texas runs the table if Vince leaves Texas drops 2 or 3 games.
M Club wrote:I've seen Phantom Holding Calls ruin a 7-5 team's undefeated season.
You have got to be fucking kidding me with this OOC pansy-fest. Way to strive for excellence Hokies. All will be blowout wins that leave the myopians bitching for respect and babbling about championships.
Sept. 2 Kent State Blacksburg
Sept. 16 Southern Miss Blacksburg
Sept. 23 Cincinnati Blacksburg
I guess the conference schedule is slightly better. I am going under the assumption that the POS is gone and VT will be starting a sophomore or freshman at QB.
Duke – whatever
Georgia Tech – as long as Reggie ball is still GT’s QB, no worries
at Miami - loss
at UNC – UNC had its moments this year and should continue to improve. I still think VT is better.
Virginia – no way I would ever pick these fags to win
at Boston College – big win, probably a Thursday night game, that makes things interesting going into the Hokies choke game
Clemson – Hokies win but the game is close. Hokie fans think they managed to survive a late season meltdown.
at Wake Forest Winston-Salem, N.C. – cHokies live up to their name by shitting their drawers against the Deacons
9-2, same shit, different season. Hopefully the team can keep the arrests to a minimum and try and weed out some of the thug trash that seems to have gained influence.
Sept. 2 Kent State Blacksburg
Sept. 16 Southern Miss Blacksburg
Sept. 23 Cincinnati Blacksburg
I guess the conference schedule is slightly better. I am going under the assumption that the POS is gone and VT will be starting a sophomore or freshman at QB.
Duke – whatever
Georgia Tech – as long as Reggie ball is still GT’s QB, no worries
at Miami - loss
at UNC – UNC had its moments this year and should continue to improve. I still think VT is better.
Virginia – no way I would ever pick these fags to win
at Boston College – big win, probably a Thursday night game, that makes things interesting going into the Hokies choke game
Clemson – Hokies win but the game is close. Hokie fans think they managed to survive a late season meltdown.
at Wake Forest Winston-Salem, N.C. – cHokies live up to their name by shitting their drawers against the Deacons
9-2, same shit, different season. Hopefully the team can keep the arrests to a minimum and try and weed out some of the thug trash that seems to have gained influence.
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You're about the same age as I am, dude (maybe a coupla years younger), and I can remember the days before Arizona and Arizona State joined your conference, and it was known as the Pac-8. Pretty sure everybody played everybody else back then.Dinsdale wrote:Other than that, this is the first time that I can think of when Oregon will play every other PAC10 team in a season.
Having said that, Arizona and Arizona State joined in the mid-to-late-70's, so certainly, it's been awhile since you played every team in your conference.
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The Citadel - Hopefully this will be as exciting a game as Southwest Texas State was this past year! A&M wins.
U-La-La - The Ragin Cajuns will give the Wrecked Crew all they can handle, but McGee will carry 112 times for 113 yards on the Ags way to vitory 12-9.
Army - A&M "gets up" for this game. Old Army against New Army. A&M wins and Ole Sarge is proud
Louisiana Tech - Undefeated A&M trounces La-Tech now that they are "in a rythm" offensively after the first 3 scrimmages.
taco tech - It's in College Station. The magic of Kyle returns. A&M wins a close one and is 5-0, ranked 13th.
@ Kansas - Our first loss. Mangina's QB throws for 536 yards and wins the game 56-17.
Misery - No Banks. No problem. A&M smashes them. 6-1 and Aggies all over the world are screaming because they are the lowest ranked 1 loss team in the nation.
@ Okie St. - Okies are still on the downfall and A&M wins a closer one than it should be. 7-1 and A&M is ranked 18. [Aggie nation]Why aren't we top 10? Notre Dame is #6 with a loss![/Aggie nation]
@ Baylor - After 7 overtimes, A&M edges one out. 8-1 and they drop a spot to 19 in the polls.
OU - Typical for A&M, a beginning of the nice run to end the season. 77-0 again. A&M drops from rankings while 6 3-loss teams are still in top 25. Yell leaders come up with new yell for Nebraska game to show their disappointment for not being ranked.
NU - Nebraska scores often and early. Blackshirts are everywhere. You can hear whispers in the stands of "that's what THE Crew used to do!" A&M now 8-3 and Aggies making reservations in San Antonio.
@ t.u. - No Vince Young? No problem. 7 in a row. Ags are 8-4.
Alamo Bowl - A rematch of the 1995 Alamo Bowl where A&M's kicker made like 6 field goals to win the Alamo Bowl MVP. This time, it goes the other way.
So, with a 8-5 record, Fran finally gets tossed. Kubiak comes back to his alma mater. The cycle will continue.
U-La-La - The Ragin Cajuns will give the Wrecked Crew all they can handle, but McGee will carry 112 times for 113 yards on the Ags way to vitory 12-9.
Army - A&M "gets up" for this game. Old Army against New Army. A&M wins and Ole Sarge is proud
Louisiana Tech - Undefeated A&M trounces La-Tech now that they are "in a rythm" offensively after the first 3 scrimmages.
taco tech - It's in College Station. The magic of Kyle returns. A&M wins a close one and is 5-0, ranked 13th.
@ Kansas - Our first loss. Mangina's QB throws for 536 yards and wins the game 56-17.
Misery - No Banks. No problem. A&M smashes them. 6-1 and Aggies all over the world are screaming because they are the lowest ranked 1 loss team in the nation.
@ Okie St. - Okies are still on the downfall and A&M wins a closer one than it should be. 7-1 and A&M is ranked 18. [Aggie nation]Why aren't we top 10? Notre Dame is #6 with a loss![/Aggie nation]
@ Baylor - After 7 overtimes, A&M edges one out. 8-1 and they drop a spot to 19 in the polls.
OU - Typical for A&M, a beginning of the nice run to end the season. 77-0 again. A&M drops from rankings while 6 3-loss teams are still in top 25. Yell leaders come up with new yell for Nebraska game to show their disappointment for not being ranked.
NU - Nebraska scores often and early. Blackshirts are everywhere. You can hear whispers in the stands of "that's what THE Crew used to do!" A&M now 8-3 and Aggies making reservations in San Antonio.
@ t.u. - No Vince Young? No problem. 7 in a row. Ags are 8-4.
Alamo Bowl - A rematch of the 1995 Alamo Bowl where A&M's kicker made like 6 field goals to win the Alamo Bowl MVP. This time, it goes the other way.
So, with a 8-5 record, Fran finally gets tossed. Kubiak comes back to his alma mater. The cycle will continue.
Goober McTuber wrote:One last post...
I'm 38. I was a little kid when Arizona and Arizona State joined the Conference. You'll note I said "PAC10."Terry in Crapchester wrote:You're about the same age as I am, dude (maybe a coupla years younger), and I can remember the days before Arizona and Arizona State joined your conference, and it was known as the Pac-8.Dinsdale wrote:Other than that, this is the first time that I can think of when Oregon will play every other PAC10 team in a season.
If we're going wayback, Idaho used to be in the same conference.
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I'm 41. I was a kid (not so little) when Arizona and Arizona State joined, I think I was 11 or 12.Dinsdale wrote:I'm 38. I was a little kid when Arizona and Arizona State joined the Conference.Terry in Crapchester wrote:You're about the same age as I am, dude (maybe a coupla years younger), and I can remember the days before Arizona and Arizona State joined your conference, and it was known as the Pac-8.Dinsdale wrote:Other than that, this is the first time that I can think of when Oregon will play every other PAC10 team in a season.
True, but I consider that to be the same conference as the Pac-8, only expanded. I've had the same discussion with Big 12 fan, who apparently sees the Big 12 as a new conference and not an expansion of the Big 8.You'll note I said "PAC10."
Now that's before even my time. Maybe Wolfie remembers. :wink:If we're going wayback, Idaho used to be in the same conference.
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He is the only senior in our linebacking corp the rest were sophs or freshmen. Linebacker should be a strength next year for our defense.Shoalzie wrote:Vito Corleone wrote:Aaron Harris
I thought he was only a sophomore...
M Club wrote:I've seen Phantom Holding Calls ruin a 7-5 team's undefeated season.
Akron, Youngstown State and Temple all at home? did Penn State join the SEC and not tell anyone about it?
Sept. 9 at Arkansas W
Sept. 16 Nebraska W
Sept. 23 at Arizona W
Sept. 30 at Washington State W
Oct. 7 Washington W
Oct. 14 Arizona State W
Oct. 28 at Oregon State W
Nov. 4 at Stanford W
Nov. 11 Oregon W
Nov. 18 California W
Nov. 25 Notre Dame Too close to call
Dec. 2 at UCLA W
bypassing my heart, my mind feels the Trojans lose 1 or 2 next year, Booty and Sanchez can both be the next Matt Leinart and click right away, the next Carson Palmer and go through a ton of growing pains or they could be Rob Johnson and show up for all but the big games. Next season will be interesting at TB, assuming Bush and White check out who plays.... Dennis should be back from knee injury and had all kinds of potential til he fumbled at Cal in ot, Chauncey Washington may finally get the academics in line and show why people think he may be the best mix of White and Bush, Micheael Coleman can step in and look just like White, Desmond Reed can show the speed and game breaking ability that he has shown in clean up duty and then there are all these kids that can sign anyday.... Stafon Johnson, CJ Spiller, CJ Gable, Lesean McCoy, Michael Goodson, Keiland Williams and Demarco Murray, obviously they wont all come to USC but all rate USC in their top 2 or 3 and odds are a couple, three of them wind up in Cardinal and Gold The O line will lose Latui and probably Justice but Byers will be back to take his guard spot back and there are a few guys about ready to step in if Winston bolts early
Defense will have to replace the safeties cause everyone seems to think Bing is gone, they have 2 of the top 3 safeties in HS this year but 2 true freshmen at safety? do they move Pinkard back to safety, then who plays corner, Wyatt is gone too... next years pass D is going to be very worrysome. The linebackers are pretty stacked, adding Luther Brown, Allen Bradford and Josh Tatum with the return of Dallas Sartz should make the backers the strength of the defense. Schweiger and LoJack should handle the DE duties but Tofi, Miles, Spicer are all in the 260lb range and USC will need a bigger body to clog up the middle, Travis Draper and Jeremyah Graves could be the big bodies to step up and fill in
Too many question marks, too much untested talent, I want to say they keep up the Pac 10 win streak and the home win streak but Notre Dame can be stacked and confident by the time they get to LA and will a young team with a lot of underclassmen in the secondary be enough to stop Quin? and early road games at Zona and wazzoo can be very dificult if the team hasnt geled.... USC doesnt have any Middle Tennessee States, louisiana Monroes or Sacramento states to practice on before they get in to league play. My heart says that they go 12-0 and play in a BCS Bowl, my mind says 10-2 or even 9-3 and they get Oklahoma in the Holiday Bowl
Sept. 9 at Arkansas W
Sept. 16 Nebraska W
Sept. 23 at Arizona W
Sept. 30 at Washington State W
Oct. 7 Washington W
Oct. 14 Arizona State W
Oct. 28 at Oregon State W
Nov. 4 at Stanford W
Nov. 11 Oregon W
Nov. 18 California W
Nov. 25 Notre Dame Too close to call
Dec. 2 at UCLA W
bypassing my heart, my mind feels the Trojans lose 1 or 2 next year, Booty and Sanchez can both be the next Matt Leinart and click right away, the next Carson Palmer and go through a ton of growing pains or they could be Rob Johnson and show up for all but the big games. Next season will be interesting at TB, assuming Bush and White check out who plays.... Dennis should be back from knee injury and had all kinds of potential til he fumbled at Cal in ot, Chauncey Washington may finally get the academics in line and show why people think he may be the best mix of White and Bush, Micheael Coleman can step in and look just like White, Desmond Reed can show the speed and game breaking ability that he has shown in clean up duty and then there are all these kids that can sign anyday.... Stafon Johnson, CJ Spiller, CJ Gable, Lesean McCoy, Michael Goodson, Keiland Williams and Demarco Murray, obviously they wont all come to USC but all rate USC in their top 2 or 3 and odds are a couple, three of them wind up in Cardinal and Gold The O line will lose Latui and probably Justice but Byers will be back to take his guard spot back and there are a few guys about ready to step in if Winston bolts early
Defense will have to replace the safeties cause everyone seems to think Bing is gone, they have 2 of the top 3 safeties in HS this year but 2 true freshmen at safety? do they move Pinkard back to safety, then who plays corner, Wyatt is gone too... next years pass D is going to be very worrysome. The linebackers are pretty stacked, adding Luther Brown, Allen Bradford and Josh Tatum with the return of Dallas Sartz should make the backers the strength of the defense. Schweiger and LoJack should handle the DE duties but Tofi, Miles, Spicer are all in the 260lb range and USC will need a bigger body to clog up the middle, Travis Draper and Jeremyah Graves could be the big bodies to step up and fill in
Too many question marks, too much untested talent, I want to say they keep up the Pac 10 win streak and the home win streak but Notre Dame can be stacked and confident by the time they get to LA and will a young team with a lot of underclassmen in the secondary be enough to stop Quin? and early road games at Zona and wazzoo can be very dificult if the team hasnt geled.... USC doesnt have any Middle Tennessee States, louisiana Monroes or Sacramento states to practice on before they get in to league play. My heart says that they go 12-0 and play in a BCS Bowl, my mind says 10-2 or even 9-3 and they get Oklahoma in the Holiday Bowl
Our three OOC games:
-Opening our season on the road, against the SEC, with first timers starting all over the place.
-Nebraska
-Notre Dame
Definitely can't say we're not trying!
What's really getting to me though is the way CF is well on its way to becoming NCAA hoops what with the way all the great underclassmen are leaving early. It's really beginning to dilute the product when your best players never stick around long enough to provide senior leadership...
I understand why the players would leave early, obviously. It's just difficult from a fan's perspective, vs the way it used to be when we as fans could count on a pissed off Reggie Bush, Lendale White and Darnell Bing coming back for retribution in their senior season...
The watering down of the college game has mostly ruined college hoops for me and at the rate it's escalating now it's well on its way to doing the same to CF...
-Opening our season on the road, against the SEC, with first timers starting all over the place.
-Nebraska
-Notre Dame
Definitely can't say we're not trying!
What's really getting to me though is the way CF is well on its way to becoming NCAA hoops what with the way all the great underclassmen are leaving early. It's really beginning to dilute the product when your best players never stick around long enough to provide senior leadership...
I understand why the players would leave early, obviously. It's just difficult from a fan's perspective, vs the way it used to be when we as fans could count on a pissed off Reggie Bush, Lendale White and Darnell Bing coming back for retribution in their senior season...
The watering down of the college game has mostly ruined college hoops for me and at the rate it's escalating now it's well on its way to doing the same to CF...
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I have a hard time finding fault with a runningback receiver or defensive players leaving early, they have such short careers as it is. Olinemen QBs should finish their 4 years because they need the development. I do see your point but College Football is not semi-pro ball and most of these kids don't go to class anyway so if they think they are good enough let them take their shot.Van wrote:Our three OOC games:
-Opening our season on the road, against the SEC, with first timers starting all over the place.
-Nebraska
-Notre Dame
Definitely can't say we're not trying!
What's really getting to me though is the way CF is well on its way to becoming NCAA hoops what with the way all the great underclassmen are leaving early. It's really beginning to dilute the product when your best players never stick around long enough to provide senior leadership...
I understand why the players would leave early, obviously. It's just difficult from a fan's perspective, vs the way it used to be when we as fans could count on a pissed off Reggie Bush, Lendale White and Darnell Bing coming back for retribution in their senior season...
The watering down of the college game has mostly ruined college hoops for me and at the rate it's escalating now it's well on its way to doing the same to CF...
The big thing that pisses me off is that the NCAA is going to hold it against a school every time an athlete doesn't graduate.
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One advantage college football has in this regard is that the NFL, unlike the NBA, has never seen fit to attempt to kill the goose that lay the golden eggs. Fortunately, the NFL requires a player to be at least 3 years removed from high school before entering the NFL draft, and even more fortunately, the courts upheld that in the face of the Clarrett challenge, which I thought, going in, was the perfect case study to challenge that rule. Another advantage football has over basketball is that, while leaving early can be a significant boost to players at certain positions (e.g., RB and WR), it can be a significant drawback to players at other positions (e.g., QB and OL).Van wrote:What's really getting to me though is the way CF is well on its way to becoming NCAA hoops what with the way all the great underclassmen are leaving early. It's really beginning to dilute the product when your best players never stick around long enough to provide senior leadership...
Of course, being a ND fan, the national media is always going to report that a number of ND's players "leave early." That's not the case at all; rather, ND has a different policy viz. a fifth year than most other 1-A schools do. We don't give as many players a fifth year of eligibility as many other schools, but imho, a fifth year should be an exception to the rule, not the other way around.
The NBA did its level best, intentionally or not, to kill off college basketball by allowing players to enter the NBA fresh out of high school. Eventually, they saw the error of their ways, and the 20-year-old rule is a good rule. But enacting it when they did is the rough equivalent of closing the barn door after all the cows got out.
Having said all of that, and I apologize to the mods for going slightly OT here, college basketball still kicks the NBA in the nuts. I'm not a Dick Vitale fan by any stretch of the imagination, but he was dead on when he said that the college game is about the name on the front of the uniform, and the NBA game is about the name on the back of the uniform.
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That may be true in some cases but when you watch the San Antonio Spurs, Detroit Pistons and the Sacramento Kings from the a few seasons past it's obvious the NBA also has plenty of players and plenty of teams that play for the name that's on the front of the jersey...and the level of play is astronomically higher.
College hoops is just plain too watered down. It's gotten to the point now that we usually know who'll go far in the Tourney simply by looking at the rosters and figuring out which teams weren't completely depleted by their best players leaving early. Whichever (very few) teams still have most of their best players playing through the senior seasons, such as North Carolina and Illinois last season, man, they have such an obvious advantage...
The game suffers because of it. Often times those seniors are only the best players on their squads due to the process of elimination. So often the truly great players bailed and these seniors who stuck around wouldn't have been the best players on their teams were it not for those other players leaving early.
It's happening more and more now in college football. While all top tier programs can easily point to their own examples I'm just looking at all the USC stars who left early and the effect it's had in helping to keep USC at least somewhat level with other programs.
Mike Williams, paired with this current offense, or last year's? That's what should've happened. Reggie Bush and Lendale White sticking around for their senior seasons to give USC's offense some continuity and a safety net while they break in their new QB?
Woulda been nice, and in the old days it would've happened.
Instead, we now get constant wholesale change, much too soon. We get sophomores and juniors who aren't nearly as emotionally invested in their final seasons and final games. We're not getting nearly so many senior stars who are looking at the their final seasons and their final Rivalry Games and their final Bowl Games as being All Or Nothing games which will go a long way towards defining them for the rest of their lives.
Many of us fans cherish these stars' college careers more than their mercenary pro careers and now we're getting fewer and fewer Ronnie Lotts and Joe Montanas carving out full term college legacies and rivalries that'll last forever...
The game is getting worse because of it. It's not as bad yet as NCAA hoops but with the NBA's new entry rules helping to somewhat staunch the bleeding both games will soon be equally diluted...
College hoops is just plain too watered down. It's gotten to the point now that we usually know who'll go far in the Tourney simply by looking at the rosters and figuring out which teams weren't completely depleted by their best players leaving early. Whichever (very few) teams still have most of their best players playing through the senior seasons, such as North Carolina and Illinois last season, man, they have such an obvious advantage...
The game suffers because of it. Often times those seniors are only the best players on their squads due to the process of elimination. So often the truly great players bailed and these seniors who stuck around wouldn't have been the best players on their teams were it not for those other players leaving early.
It's happening more and more now in college football. While all top tier programs can easily point to their own examples I'm just looking at all the USC stars who left early and the effect it's had in helping to keep USC at least somewhat level with other programs.
Mike Williams, paired with this current offense, or last year's? That's what should've happened. Reggie Bush and Lendale White sticking around for their senior seasons to give USC's offense some continuity and a safety net while they break in their new QB?
Woulda been nice, and in the old days it would've happened.
Instead, we now get constant wholesale change, much too soon. We get sophomores and juniors who aren't nearly as emotionally invested in their final seasons and final games. We're not getting nearly so many senior stars who are looking at the their final seasons and their final Rivalry Games and their final Bowl Games as being All Or Nothing games which will go a long way towards defining them for the rest of their lives.
Many of us fans cherish these stars' college careers more than their mercenary pro careers and now we're getting fewer and fewer Ronnie Lotts and Joe Montanas carving out full term college legacies and rivalries that'll last forever...
The game is getting worse because of it. It's not as bad yet as NCAA hoops but with the NBA's new entry rules helping to somewhat staunch the bleeding both games will soon be equally diluted...
Joe Satriani is a mime, right? - 88
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Show me your dicks. - trev