(!) WTF is this 1965? (!)

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:27 am

Rolling Stones forced to change the song lyrics in their songs?

You make a grown man cry, you make a dead man [word "Cum" muted]."

in Satisfaction they edited

"And I'm trying to {make} some girl"

WTF has this country turned into? Networks are terrified of the FCC because of one saggy black Tit?

They prety much show tits on MTV. They make gay sex references on just about every sitcom, but we still have to deal with censorship in the eworst form.

Hell those lyrics are barely suggestive.

Making America vaniila, one superbowl at a time. :roll:

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:30 am

If it was '65 the Stones would have actually been worth half a shit.

Cross Traffic · Post by **Cross Traffic** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:33 am

Wasn't "Start Me Up" released in 1981?

Di$ney must have been working the mute button for the Super Bowl last night.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:35 am

poptart wrote:If it was '65 the Stones would have actually been worth half a shit.

hey give the old guys a little for still be able to perform at all. Hell KR shoudl get a medal for still being alive.

If he still is, I mean. ;)

jtr · Post by **jtr** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:41 am

DiT · Post by **DiT** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:42 am

funny how 40 years and mega millions crushes the rebellious spirit in mankind,
rock-n-roll,defiant by defintion,shouldn't be shit on for a few bucks.

mouse · Post by **mouse** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:44 am

I wouldn't say shit ,
or they may go back to thier old format.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:45 am

Mister Bushice wrote:
poptart wrote:If it was '65 the Stones would have actually been worth half a shit.
hey give the old guys a little for still be able to perform at all. Hell KR shoudl get a medal for still being alive.

If he still is, I mean. ;)

I bought my first three LPs in '65

Beatles 65
Surfin' USa
Shut Down Vol II

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:46 am

well in 65 they sang "lets spend some time together on Ed sullivan voluntarily.

Pending the night together was taboo back then if you weren't married.

The Rolling stones may have projected the bad boy rebel image, but they knew where the line is.

mouse · Post by **mouse** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:03 am

All this from a country who gives an Oscar to a movie with two men butt fucking each other?

No wonder the folks in Canada hate us.

Cross Traffic · Post by **Cross Traffic** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:06 am

Should change that to liberal media hacks and academy voters want fagback mountain to win. Oscars are not a godsend when it comes to watchable movies.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:50 am

oscar or not, the film has made millions and thousands of people have gone to see it - even in the midwest.

A butt fuck movie wins awards and major recognition, and the rolling stones luke warm lyrics are censored.

Mouse is right. Good thing canada doesn't have any wmds

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:39 am

Mister Bushice wrote:well in 65 they sang "lets spend some time[/] together on Ed sullivan voluntarily.

Actually, it was '67 -- the same day of Superbowl I, according to MSNBC.

Ironic, and arguably illustrating they've been selling out for 40 years.

But you can pretty much count on anything associated with the Superbowl being a staged bunch of horseshit aimed toward the lowest common denominator of sit-com, reality-TV-watching non-NFL fan viewing tards.

As far as I'm concerned, anything associated with that game even attempting to have any sort of integrity was lost long ago. Hell, the last time the game was actually played during the day was '77. I seriously would not be surprised if members of that ridicuously spasmatic crowd .... err, "ethusiastic fans" surrounding the Stones during that "performance" were paid to act like 12-year-old girls at a Boys2Men concert, or Cicero watching the Grammys. Are you kidding me?

Then there is the broadcast sports media, who spent the better part of two weeks interviewing past players, conducting game shows on the air and sucking each other off, in between "reporting" the best "parties" in which to be seen.

The refs did just about all they could to add the game itself as being a staged "event," rather than a football championship, as this is the main topic of conversation in the U.S. sports world now.

So a couple of words being omitted from the Stones "concert" by ABC was pretty much nothing more than a blip amid a sea of staged managerie and imaginary "meaning," other than making a buck for the sake of "entertainment."

Nishlord · Post by **Nishlord** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:29 am

RadioFan is dead on. But the main reason for all the hassle over the halftime show is that's the only part the vast majority of the world ever watches, justifying the Super Bowl's rather amusing boast that it's a monumental global event.

Terry in Crapchester · Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:12 pm

mouse wrote:I wouldn't say shit ,
or they may go back to thier old format.

Take out the gay man in that picture, and mute the sound, and I could actually go along with it.

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:57 pm

it could be 1955 !!

"good golly Miss Molly...she sure likes to ball..." !!!

woooo !!!

rozy · Post by **rozy** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:09 pm

RadioFan wrote:
Mister Bushice wrote:well in 65 they sang "lets spend some time[/] together on Ed sullivan voluntarily.

Actually, it was '67 -- the same day of Superbowl I, according to MSNBC.

Ironic, and arguably illustrating they've been selling out for 40 years.

But you can pretty much count on anything associated with the Superbowl being a staged bunch of horseshit aimed toward the lowest common denominator of sit-com, reality-TV-watching non-NFL fan viewing tards.

As far as I'm concerned, anything associated with that game even attempting to have any sort of integrity was lost long ago. Hell, the last time the game was actually played during the day was '77. I seriously would not be surprised if members of that ridicuously spasmatic crowd .... err, "ethusiastic fans" surrounding the Stones during that "performance" were paid to act like 12-year-old girls at a Boys2Men concert, or Cicero watching the Grammys. Are you kidding me?

Then there is the broadcast sports media, who spent the better part of two weeks interviewing past players, conducting game shows on the air and sucking each other off, in between "reporting" the best "parties" in which to be seen.

The refs did just about all they could to add the game itself as being a staged "event," rather than a football championship, as this is the main topic of conversation in the U.S. sports world now.

So a couple of words being omitted from the Stones "concert" by ABC was pretty much nothing more than a blip amid a sea of staged managerie and imaginary "meaning," other than making a buck for the sake of "entertainment."

RACK

Next year, I'll just watch a replay of the Rams-Titans while the rest of the world worries about wardrobes, has-beens, shitty officiating, and how much immorality can be gotten away with. I'll stick to watching a great football game. Even if I have to dredge it up from the past.

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:11 pm

Nishlord wrote:RadioFan is dead on. But the main reason for all the hassle over the halftime show is that's the only part the vast majority of the world ever watches, justifying the Super Bowl's rather amusing boast that it's a monumental global event.

So the rest of the world is too blame for shitty halftime shows? I knew it. Unlike the rest of the world, Americans prefer the game and find something else to go during the halftime show i.e beer and piss, hump the wife, lingerie bowl, slit their wrists.

Nishlord · Post by **Nishlord** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:14 pm

Jsc810 wrote:
Nishlord wrote:RadioFan is dead on. But the main reason for all the hassle over the halftime show is that's the only part the vast majority of the world ever watches, justifying the Super Bowl's rather amusing boast that it's a monumental global event.
It is THE global event. Nobody goves a fuck about the world cup. Nobody that matters, anyway. :P

Ha! Most people around the world only watched it for 5 minutes to check if there were any nips on display. Globally, the SB isn't even the most important event this week. All them Chinee consumers the NFL are desperate to get are watchng the African Nations Cup.

Once upon a time, American Football was the fastest growing sport in the world. It all went wrong when we actually got to see it live, and realised it was a 3-hour ball-ache instead of an half hour-long actionfest.

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:31 pm

Cross Traffic wrote:Should change that to liberal media hacks and academy voters want fagback mountain to win. Oscars are not a godsend when it comes to watchable movies.

~yawn~
Misappropriated anger.

Learn more about the world and stop letting talk radio spin masters shape your world view.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:46 pm

UNRACK the reposting of Janet's undead flesh. If my sensibilities are going to be plied, dammit - if they're going to expose a breast - let it be one worth seeing, instead of one that George Romero might envision.

I likes me a good football game. It's awfully rare to see one that also happens to be a Super Bowl. This game was so chopped up by fluff and commercials that it was very difficult to enjoy. Par for the course, though...

Nishlord · Post by **Nishlord** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:11 pm

Everyone's new Board Bitch wrote:Unlike the rest of the world, Americans prefer the game and find something else to go during the halftime show i.e beer and piss

So there's a difference between beer and piss in America now? Well, I never.

Jimmy Medalions · Post by **Jimmy Medalions** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:22 pm

Rack RF. Well said.

Nishlord · Post by **Nishlord** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:34 pm

Yeah, RF speaks truth. In the days of multi-channel cross-media carnage, it's only sporting events and the occasional last-episode-of-long-running-popular-TV-show that unites a nation like TV used to do in the old days. No wonder there's such a binge at the Super Bowl.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:53 pm

RadioFan wrote:
Mister Bushice wrote:well in 65 they sang "lets spend some time[/] together on Ed sullivan voluntarily.

Actually, it was '67 -- the same day of Superbowl I, according to MSNBC.

I was guessing. Didn't see it when it aired, only read about it later when I was a kid and learned that ED sullivan had most acts censor their lyrics - the exception was the Doors when Jim Morrison said he would and didn't, and he never was invited back.

Ironic, and arguably illustrating they've been selling out for 40 years.

But you can pretty much count on anything associated with the Superbowl being a staged bunch of horseshit aimed toward the lowest common denominator of sit-com, reality-TV-watching non-NFL fan viewing tards.

Same for most pro sports these days. Look what's been done to what used to be basketball in the NBA. Baseballs post season comes closer to being relatively unchanged for it's championship, although the All Star game is a joke.

As far as I'm concerned, anything associated with that game even attempting to have any sort of integrity was lost long ago. Hell, the last time the game was actually played during the day was '77. I seriously would not be surprised if members of that ridicuously spasmatic crowd .... err, "ethusiastic fans" surrounding the Stones during that "performance" were paid to act like 12-year-old girls at a Boys2Men concert, or Cicero watching the Grammys. Are you kidding me?

Then there is the broadcast sports media, who spent the better part of two weeks interviewing past players, conducting game shows on the air and sucking each other off, in between "reporting" the best "parties" in which to be seen.

The refs did just about all they could to add the game itself as being a staged "event," rather than a football championship, as this is the main topic of conversation in the U.S. sports world now.

I almost didn't tune in for it except with the faint hope that it might be a decent game. So much for that.

My next door neighbors had a huge superbowl party. It was a lot of fun. I didn't partake in the shots game this year (I have in the past-ouch!), but really the game was secondary to the party. It was just a focal point that half the people there didn't give a shit about unless they won some money on the squares game thing.

So a couple of words being omitted from the Stones "concert" by ABC was pretty much nothing more than a blip amid a sea of staged managerie and imaginary "meaning," other than making a buck for the sake of "entertainment."

It wasn't so much that it was one more thing that was part of the event as a whole. It's just the overall feeling of hypocrisy of the TV networks who are afraid of the FCC under certain circumstances, such as a so called "family event" like the superbowl, yet they have no problem broadcasting a show like housewives, and airing commercials for it throughout the day advertising its sleaze verbally and visually.

The words they say are "we want to provide wholesome family entertainment" but their overall actions add "until the time Government says its ok for us to pull in the adult viewership with soft core porn"

Uncle Fester · Post by **Uncle Fester** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:59 pm

Nish wrote: It all went wrong when we actually got to see it live, and realised it was a 3-hour ball-ache...

Yeah, I think we all agree that soccer really sucks, although the end-of-game riot and trampling is kind of fun to watch.

jtr · Post by **jtr** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:49 pm

someone might want to put work warning markers in the title of this thread because of the posting of janet jackson's boob. If the network came under wrath for it so could someone, clicking into this thread unaware, be under wrath from their boss.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:23 pm

For the record, the Stones weren't forced to change any lyrics, and in fact didn't change any lyrics.

The network bleeped it.

Sorry to put a damper on this oh-so-riveting discussion of people making shit up to argue with other people who are making shit up, but...you know.

Not much different from all of the threads on the Iraq war here, where there's two opposing sides of people making shit up.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:30 pm

yeah my bad, I misstated that up front. At first I thought they had, but later realized it was the network.

It's unnecessary censorship no matter what way you look at it.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:36 pm

Yeah, deleting vulgarities when you promote an TV event that 90,000,000+ people are watching is "unnecessary."

I'm all about anyone, including TV networks, being able to say whatever they want, whenever they want, for the most part. But to include questionable language during the halftime show of something the network had promoted as a "family event" would have been in very poor taste, no matter what way you look at it.

"Mommy...what does 'you make a dead man cum' mean?"

I don't think so...

UCant Unretires Again · Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:12 pm

Dinsdale wrote:But to include questionable language during the halftime show of something the network had promoted as a "family event" would have been in very poor taste, no matter what way you look at it.

Those zombies prancing about the stage with faces scarier than an unmasked Michael Meyer's doesn't scream functional family unit either. They should have been 'shaded' like those naked bitch's titties ---> :sadface: on the E Channel from 11-12 every night.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:25 pm

If you think for one minute that this was about "family values" you are as duped as they get. This was about avoiding FCC fines, period.

and I call Bullshit. "Make some girl" is vulgar? Only to those who complete the thought that way.

"Make a dead man come" to a five year old could be easily interpreted in other ways. What 5 year old has a dirty mind like yours?

Hell, the kid has to do is stick around for the after SB commercials that show scantily clad women in sexually suggestive poses. That's not vulgar?

Also, the Stones were informed ahead of time by the network and the league that they would be edited, and they agreed to it.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:58 pm

Dude, I'm about as anti-censorship as they get, but if I had children (you're welcome), and I let them watch a show with me because I was under the impression that it was geared towards whole-family entertainment, and ANY vulgar language was used, I'd be pissed, and likely boycotting that network.

S'all I'm saying.

Then again, so much as putting that bunch of washed up geezers on the tube was in such horrid taste, I might boycott them anyway.

I'm in favor of using strctly American acts for the American People's Choice Holiday. Maybe they could get Grand Funk to come do We're An American Band next year...wait, I guess that wouldn't be too family friendly either...nevermind.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:13 pm

Dinsdale wrote:Dude, I'm about as anti-censorship as they get, but if I had children (you're welcome), and I let them watch a show with me because I was under the impression that it was geared towards whole-family entertainment, and ANY vulgar language was used, I'd be pissed, and likely boycotting that network.

When you do end up with a five year old someday you will realize that 99% of the innuendos you get go right past him unnoticed. At that age it's mostly the visual stuff that gets tough to explain. unless you let him watch CSI then it's both.

Then again, so much as putting that bunch of washed up geezers on the tube was in such horrid taste, I might boycott them anyway.

what IS in good taste then? Name me a few entertainers you'd want to see who fit the category perfom the half time show.

For many people the stones are an institution. Seeing them on tv didn't bother me in the least. I don't think they're very relevant anymore, but given the choice between the visual vulgarity of an almost naked beyonce grabbing her crotch or tits and shaking her ass while singing some horrible song she's stolen errr sampled the melody of, and a couple of wrinkled old guys dancing poorly and singing words he could not possibly understand might be offensive, I think I'd rather have my 5 year old see the old guys.
Besides, gives me a chance to educate him on musical history.

I'm in favor of using strctly American acts for the American People's Choice Holiday. Maybe they could get Grand Funk to come do We're An American Band next year...wait, I guess that wouldn't be too family friendly either...nevermind.

I think if you're tuning in to the Superbowl for a quality musical event you will always be disappointed unless they are a favorite band of yours. The safest performers are the dinosaurs because they'll play established hits and won't try to pull a janet jacktit. That's why Aerosmith, McCartney and the Stones have been recent selections. They have little left to prove.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:25 pm

The Wiggles would be a pretty safe act.

Jimmy Medalions · Post by **Jimmy Medalions** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:31 pm

Goober McTuber wrote:The Wiggles would be a pretty safe act.

Rack. Can I be an extra in the audience?

Sin,
DMVPed in Seattle

Uncle Fester · Post by **Uncle Fester** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:59 pm

The fooken commercials were worse than a few garbled, ragged, distorted musical blatherings by the Shuffling Stones.

They kept running promos for some stupid medical show with a TV doc yelling for "code black" while he's up to his elbows in some dude's bloody guts.

I saw ads for a half-dozen ultra-violent movies.

I saw a granny get tackled, a chick get tackled, and a chick tackle a guy off a bar stool. I saw an ad where some guy launches a cell phone off a guy's head and another where a black dude starts beating up an old man on a bus. My 11-year-old, said "Geeeze, why do they show stuff like this?"

I'll take Janet or Mick any day over that.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:08 am

To be honest, I didn't see the halftime show, and I vaguely remember a commercial with some cavemen, although I couldn't even guess for whom.

If you tools weren't such fucking losers, none of this would be an issue.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:27 am

Today the Stones are bitching about it:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060207/ap_ ... owl_stones

:roll:

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:34 am

Mister Bushice wrote:Today the Stones are bitching about it:

They must have caught the same virulent strain of bitchatosis that is sweeping much of the country after the SB.