NFL CBA talks

kcdave · Post by **kcdave** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:09 am

The sky is falling according to Len.

Id like to think this will all go away .......... but theres a whole lot of money involved. That always throws a wrench into things. Good part for me is, none of my money is involved.

WhatsMyName · Post by **WhatsMyName** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:42 pm

Well, it could be. Do you like to attend live games? Expect ticket prices to skyrocket to account for the increase in player salaries. Also expect the Chiefs, with an outmoded stadium and relatively crappy cap positioning, to get hit among the hardest.

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:35 pm

I love football but I don't care about the arguments rich players have with even richer owners. If they actually have a lockout or a strike, let me know. This is just another story the media takes hold off and makes it sound more dire than it really is. I'll worry in two years when this really matters.

KC Scott · Post by **KC Scott** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:50 am

WhatsMyName wrote:Well, it could be. Do you like to attend live games? Expect ticket prices to skyrocket to account for the increase in player salaries. Also expect the Chiefs, with an outmoded stadium and relatively crappy cap positioning, to get hit among the hardest.

Too bad you didn't really actually read or understand this thread.
Every team has to be under the 95M cap.

Chiefs will cut Will Shields, Warfield, Dexter McCleon - decent players, but no worse shape than everybody else.

FYI - Your doinks cut Trevor Pryce, Mike Anderson and Putzier today.
So, maybe you'll wanna give it more than a drive by next time:

Broncos save almost $15 million: The Broncos shaved $14.99 million of cap room Wednesday, but it came at a big price for talent.

The Broncos released three starters -- defensive end Trevor Pryce, running back Mike Anderson and tight end Jeb Putzier in moves that pull the team within a couple of millions of the salary cap.

• Panthers release three veterans: The Panthers cleared $4.64 million of cap room Wednesday by releasing three veterans -- running back Stephen Davis, running back Rod Smart and defensive tackle Brentson Buckner.

Davis was expected to be released because of his age and his injuries. His release saved the team $2.8 million. Smart, a good backup running back and solid returner, was a little bit of a surprise. Buckner is one of the team leaders on defense but he's played 13 years and is 34 years old.

• Bills cuts Adams, Milloy: The Bills, who entered Wednesday $2 million under the $92 million salary cap, made their second major cut of the offseason by releasing former Pro Bowl defensive tackle Sam Adams.

Safety Lawyer Milloy and tight end Mark Campbell also were released in moves that saved the Bills an estimated $9.1 million in salary cap space. The team has not determined whether to release veteran receiver Eric Moulds, who rejected the Bills' offer to restructure his contract earlier this week.

• Dolphins release Madison, three others: Forced to slash contracts in order to get under the salary cap for 2006, the Miami Dolphins on Wednesday released four veterans, the most notable of which was four-time Pro Bowl cornerback Sam Madison.

The moves saved the team $14.4 million in cap room, but cost the Dolphins some key contributors, and three members of their secondary. In addition to Madison, the team released fellow cornerback Reggie Howard, safety Tebucky Jones and offensive tackle Damion McIntosh.

• Titans release veteran tackle Hopkins: The Titans began their roster purge to get under the cap by releasing veteran left tackle Brad Hopkins.
Hopkins' release will save the Titans $4.6 million of cap room. The team entered Wednesday $18.7 million over the salary cap.
Hopkins' release wasn't a surprise considering he's 35 years old and he had an $11.1 million number that had swelled because the team kept using cap relief deals to keep him on the roster.

CAP Status Under:
Team Cap status (under)
Minnesota Vikings $24 million
Arizona Cardinals $21.8 million
Cleveland Browns $21.5 million
Green Bay Packers $21 million
San Francisco 49ers $17.4 million
San Diego Chargers $17.1 million
Jacksonville Jaguars $14.2 million
Philadelphia Eagles $14.2 million
Baltimore Ravens $11.9 million
Detroit Lions $10.6 million
St. Louis Rams $10.6 million
Seattle Seahawks $9.5 million
Cincinnati Bengals $9 million
New Orleans Saints $8.2 million
Chicago Bears $7.8 million
Houston Texans $4 million
New York Giants $3.3 million
Buffalo Bills $2 million
New England Patriots $1.5 million

CAP Status Over
Team Cap status (over)
Oakland Raiders $26 million
Miami Dolphins $21.9 million
Kansas City Chiefs $20.7 million
Tennessee Titans $18.7 million
Washington Redskins $17 million
Denver Broncos $16.4 million
Carolina Panthers $12.7 million
Atlanta Falcons $11.7 million
New York Jets $11.1 million
Indianapolis Colts $9.4 million
Tampa Bay Buccaneers $8.7 million
Pittsburgh Steelers $7 million
Dallas Cowboys $1.2 million

The following is a list of players who might be cut (or retire) this offseason, their 2006 salaries and and the salary cap savings their teams would realize for 2006.

Arizona Cardinals
Player Cap number 2006 savings
DE Calvin Pace $1,955,000 $425,000 (charge)

Atlanta Falcons
Player Cap number 2006 savings
CB Kevin Mathis $887,500 $325,000
DE Brady Smith $3,125,000 $2,500,000

Baltimore Ravens
Player Cap number 2006 savings
LB Peter Boulware $2,360,000 $1,320,000
OL Orlando Brown $3,800,000 $900,000
OL Keydrick Vincent $1,666,666 $833,332

Buffalo Bills
Player Cap number 2006 savings
DT Sam Adams $3,875,000 $3,500,000
OL Bennie Anderson $1,900,000 $900,000
S Lawyer Milloy $3,750,000 $2,500,000
WR Eric Moulds $10,855,666 $5,522,332
CB Troy Vincent $3,225,000 $825,000
OL Mike Williams $10,813,764 $5,683,530
TE Mark Campbell

Carolina Panthers
Player Cap number 2006 savings
RB Stephen Davis $3,800,000 $2,800,000
RB Rod Smart
DT Brentson Buckner
K John Kasay $1,700,000 $500,000
LB Jason Kyle $850,000 $610,000
LB Brandon Short $2,050,000 $1,550,000

Chicago Bears
Player Cap number 2006 savings
TE Desmond Clark $1,666,666 $1,166,664
S Mike Green $1,435,000 $1,435,000

Cincinnati Bengals
Player Cap number 2006 savings
DE Duane Clemons $1,616,666 $1,349,998
S Kim Herring $1,600,000 $700,000
TE Reggie Kelly $1,950,000 $1,450,000
DT John Thornton $3,875,000 $2,000,000

Cleveland Browns
Player Cap number 2006 savings
RB William Green $1,517,619 $121,666 (charge)
DT Kenard Lang $5,954,364 $5,133,333
DB Michael Lehan $503,000 417,000
OL Ryan Tucker $4,025,000 $774,996

Dallas Cowboys
Player Cap number 2006 savings
OL Larry Allen $7,558,333 $3,441,663
DT La'Roi Glover $7,200,000 $6,000,000
LB Dat Nguyen (ret.) $2,458,333 $1,791,665

Denver Broncos
Player Cap number 2006 savings
DT Trevor Pryce $10,296,666 $8,529,996
RB Mike Anderson
TE Jeb Putzier
OL Matt Lepsis (O) $6,950,000 $5,050,000
DT Gerard Warren (O) $8,250,000 $7,600,000

Detroit Lions
Player Cap number 2006 savings
CB Fernando Bryant $3,916,666 $2,249,998
QB Joey Harrington $12,043,750 $5,412,500

Green Bay Packers
Player Cap number 2006 savings
LB Na'il Diggs $3,812,500 $2,900,000
QB Brett Favre (might retire) $12,633,333 $7,800,000
OL Adrian Klemm $1,600,000 $1,200,000

Houston Texans
Player Cap number 2006 savings
TE Mark Bruener $1,008,333 $1,008,332
CB Marcus Coleman $3,118,433 $585,299
RB Domanick Davis $3,800,000 $200,000 (charge)
DT Seth Payne $4,225,000 $850,000
OL Todd Wade $5,166,666 $1,500,002 (charge)
DT Gary Walker $5,833,333 $1,500,001 (charge)

Indianapolis Colts
Player Cap number 2006 savings
DT Josh Williams $3,700,000 $1,300,000
QB Travis Brown $630,500 $545,000
DT Joaquin Gonzalez $645,000 $445,000

Jacksonville Jaguars
Player Cap number 2006 savings
TE Kyle Brady $3,346,250 $2,499,500
WR Jimmy Smith $7,224,333 $5,475,000

Kansas City Chiefs
Player Cap number 2006 savings
LB Shawn Barber $4,707,142 $1,278,568
OL Chris Bober $2,175,000 $1,275,000
RB Priest Holmes $5,330,804 $992,412 (charge)
CB Dexter McCleon $2,775,000 $1,600,000
CB Eric Warfield $4,264,285 $2,121,425
OL John Welbourn $1,400,000 $1,400,000
S Greg Wesley $3,766,666 $1,099,998
S Jerome Woods $2,908,333 $25,000 (charge)

Miami Dolphins
Player Cap number 2006 savings
QB Gus Frerotte $1,680,000 $1,430,000
CB Reggie Howard $4,000,000 $1,000,000
OL Jeno James $3,208,333 $374,999
S Tebucky Jones $6,800,000 $6,500,000
CB Sam Madison $6,305,931 $2,625,000
OL Damion McIntosh $4,475,000 $4,275,000
LB Junior Seau $2,923,750 $2,100,000
DT Jeff Zgonina $895,000 $770,000

Minnesota Vikings
Player Cap number 2006 savings
QB Daunte Culpepper $9,421,565 $3,770,290
OL Chris Liwienski $2,365,000 $1,465,000
WR Marcus Robinson $2,500,000 $1,500,000
OL Mike Rosenthal $1,950,000 $21,536 (Charge)

New England Patriots
Player Cap number 2006 savings
LB Chad Brown $1,242,500 $1,000,000
S Rodney Harrison $2,831,763 $1,563,527
CB Tyrone Poole $2,516,668 $2,006,250
CB Duane Starks $5,130,000 $5,130,000

New Orleans Saints
Player Cap number 2006 savings
TE Boo Williams $1,386,666 $1,019,998
S Jay Bellamy $1,150,000 $650,000
QB Todd Bouman $1,443,333 $1,024,999
QB Aaron Brooks $8,483,333 $4,516,665
TE Ernie Conwell $2,095,000 $1,255,000
OL Jermane Mayberry $4,245,000 $120,000
CB Fred Thomas $4,150,000 $1,650,000

New York Giants
Player Cap number 2006 savings
LB Carlos Emmons $3,000,000 $1,000,000
K Jeff Feagles $870,000 $670,000
LB Barrett Green $3,025,000 $1,375,000
DT Fred Robbins $3,251,666 $255,002 (charge)
WR Amani Toomer $6,375,000 $300,000 (charge)
S Shaun Williams $5,807,737 $1,750,000
S Brent Alexander $1,440,000 $1,240,000
OL Jason Whittle $1,821,250 $1,678,750

New York Jets
Player Cap number 2006 savings
LB Eric Barton $3,915,000 $1,170,000
WR Laveranues Coles $10,000,000 $6,000,000
OL Jason Fabini $4,500,000 $3,200,000
QB Jay Fiedler $6,495,000 $6,095,000
OL Pete Kendall $5,187,000 $4,362,000
CB Ty Law $10,060,000 $7,660,000
LB Barry Gardner $815,000 $655,000
DT Lance Legree $1,850,000 $1,450,000
RB Jerald Sowell $922,857 $551,428
OL Kevin Mawae $4,466,666 $633,330
QB Chad Pennington $15,000,000 $3,000,000

Oakland Raiders
Player Cap number 2006 savings
LB Danny Clark $2,712,000 $1,389,000
QB Kerry Collins $12,897,666 $9,196,997
RB Zack Crockett $2,293,571 $2,079,284
S Derrick Gibson (declined option) $10,201,000 $9,397,000
DE Bobby Hamilton $5,320,000 $4,040,000
DT Warren Sapp $6,097,000 $109,000
OL Ron Stone $3,080,000 $2,760,000
CB Denard Walker $4,590,000 $4,290,000
DT Ted Washington $4,747,000 $1,759,000

Philadelphia Eagles
Player Cap number 2006 savings
DT Paul Grasmanis $700,000 $700,000
DE Jerome McDougle $2,001,666 $407,502 (charge)
WR Terrell Owens $6,778,333 $4,544,999

Pittsburgh Steelers
Player Cap number 2006 savings
OL Jeff Hartings $8,129,166 $4,749,997
S Mike Logan $1,758,333 $1,474,999
QB Tommy Maddox $1,700,000 $600,000
OL Chukky Okobi $2,097,500 $1,751,500
RB Duce Staley $4,371,250 $857,500
CB Willie Williams $1,235,000 $985,000

San Diego Chargers
Player Cap number 2006 savings
LB Randall Godfrey $2,500,000 $1,900,000
S Jerry Wilson $1,120,000 $1,020,000

San Francisco 49ers
Player Cap number 2006 savings
DE Andre Carter $3,671,251 $1,349,998
DE Chris Cooper $632,500 $545,000
CB Ahmed Plummer $8,083,569 $3,083,569
WR Johnnie Morton $845,000 $770,000
OL Jeremy Newberry $5,118,583 $1,881,417
WR Rashaun Woods $1,400,666 $50,997

St. Louis Rams
Player Cap number 2006 savings
LB Chris Claiborne $3,900,000 $1,500,000
RB Marshall Faulk $4,027,856 $2,055,719 (charge)

Seattle Seahawks
Player Cap number 2006 savings
LB Jamie Sharper $4,500,000 $3,300,000

Tampa Bay Bucs
Player Cap number 2006 savings
RB Mike Alstott (O) $5,168,000 $4,663,996
LB Derrick Brooks $11,657,083 $5,499,998
LB Jeff Gooch $2,050,000 $1,850,000
QB Brian Griese $7,083,333 $4,549,999
RB Michael Pittman $2,117,000 $1,767,000
DE Simeon Rice $9,200,000 $2,800,000
LB Shelton Quarles $5,075,000 $1,925,000
LB Barrett Ruud $825,750 $822,250 (charge)
OL Matt Stinchcomb $2,225,000 $1,550,000

Tennessee Titans
Player Cap number 2006 savings
OL Eugene Amano $393,833 $384,999
OL Ken Amato $695,002 $204,994
RB Travis Henry $2,142,000 $1,574,000
OL Brad Hopkins $11,160,336 $4,608,990
OL Benji Olson $9,083,250 $5,982,750
QB Billy Volek $3,273,335 $1,953,329

Washington Redskins
Player Cap number 2006 savings
LB LaVar Arrington $12,045,980 $120,308 (charge)
S Matt Bowen $2,400,000 $2,000,000
K John Hall $1,965,000 $1,035,000
CB Walt Harris $2,750,000 $2,000,000
DT Brandon Noble $2,630,000 $1,700,000
QB Patrick Ramsey $2,881,500 $1,688,000
OL Cory Raymer $1,118,333 $984,999

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:02 pm

KC Scott wrote: Team Cap status (over)
Oakland Raiders $26 million

Twenty six million and the best they could muster was a 4-12 record?

did I say Chokeland was in trouble?

Let's make that BIG TROUBLE.....

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:36 pm

Felix wrote:
KC Scott wrote: Team Cap status (over)
Oakland Raiders $26 million
Twenty six million and the best they could muster was a 4-12 record?

did I say Chokeland was in trouble?

Let's make that BIG TROUBLE.....

What trouble are they in? Most of the guys who got them that far over the cap should be cut anyway. Their problem was last year, not this year. The teams that are in trouble are the ones like Washington, who have just barely scratched their way back to contending only to have the door slammed in their faces.

WhatsMyName · Post by **WhatsMyName** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:42 pm

All those guys except Putzier were basically goners in one form or fashion. Now Denver needs a tight end, big friggin' deal. If the salary cap disappears, at least we can eventually claw our way back with the revenue or stadium generates; how about you lucky dogs in KC and Oakland??

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:48 pm

Oakland drops off 18 mil just by cutting D. Gibson and K. Collins.

Another 7 mil by cutting D. Walker and R. Stone.

There ya go.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:52 pm

poptart wrote:Oakland drops off 18 mil just by cutting D. Gibson and K. Collins.

Another 7 mil by cutting D. Walker and R. Stone.

Well, they're back to even then......

I certainly hope they can find some really talented people willing to work for nothing......

good luck

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:53 pm

Talented like the 4 that I just listed...?

WhatsMyName · Post by **WhatsMyName** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:54 pm

When you're 4-12 with trillions over the cap, and you play in a baseball stadium and are among the league's worst in attendance...well, let's just say it'll be fun being a Broncos fan if the salary cap evaporates!

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:56 pm

poptart wrote:Talented like the 4 that I just listed...?

RACK

Different year, same cap cutting moves for the Silver and Black. BFD.

Our cap situation will be fine while getting rid of useless turds once again.

jiminphilly · Post by **jiminphilly** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:56 pm

Rack the Eagles who are about to have rougly $20 mil to use for free agency at a time when they have some rather big holes to fill.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:04 pm

mvscal wrote:Needless to say, the only thing that that signifies is that the senile dumbfuck running your team is about to overspend on a new pile of useless turds.

It's only 'overspending' if they aren't cut.

3 of the 4 are LOCKS to be cut.

The 4th, Collins, will restructure or be cut.

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:09 pm

WhatsMyName wrote:When you're 4-12 with trillions over the cap, and you play in a baseball stadium and are among the league's worst in attendance...well, let's just say it'll be fun being a Broncos fan if the salary cap evaporates!

I'd skullfuck your heehaw eyesockets all over this thread if I wasnt laughing so hard at your fucking sig nullifying your shit post.

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:27 pm

...as for the Bolts, they are poised to pick up the few pieces they were missing last year. They need not cut anyone, and have plenty of scrilla to bag say a Jimmah Smith Lawyer Malloy and/or Derrick Brooks ...yea, that wouldn't suck.

WhatsMyName · Post by **WhatsMyName** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:34 pm

Raydah James wrote:
WhatsMyName wrote:When you're 4-12 with trillions over the cap, and you play in a baseball stadium and are among the league's worst in attendance...well, let's just say it'll be fun being a Broncos fan if the salary cap evaporates!
I'd skullfuck your heehaw eyesockets all over this thread if I wasnt laughing so hard at your fucking sig nullifying your shit post.

LOL.

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:46 pm

mvscal wrote:
ChargerMike wrote:...as for the Bolts, they are poised to pick up the few pieces they were missing last year. They need not cut anyone, and have plenty of scrilla to bag say a Jimmah Smith Lawyer Malloy and/or Derrick Brooks ...yea, that wouldn't suck.
Actually it would, seeing as how all of the above are well past their prime.

I'd say Jimmah had a pretty decent year. The other 2 might come cheap for the reason you stated, and would certainly benifit a young corps of d-backs and LB's

Don't forget our leading wide receiver is well past HIS prime.

WhatsMyName · Post by **WhatsMyName** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:48 pm

mvscal wrote:Has Ed Reed resigned? I'd rather spend free agent money on a guy in his prime. Move Jammer to free safety, bring in Reed and look to the draft for help at corner. Tye Hill is a possibility at 19.

Reed isn't going anywhere.

jiminphilly · Post by **jiminphilly** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:31 pm

BSmack wrote:
Felix wrote:
KC Scott wrote: Team Cap status (over)
Oakland Raiders $26 million
Twenty six million and the best they could muster was a 4-12 record?

did I say Chokeland was in trouble?

Let's make that BIG TROUBLE.....
What trouble are they in? Most of the guys who got them that far over the cap should be cut anyway. Their problem was last year, not this year. The teams that are in trouble are the ones like Washington, who have just barely scratched their way back to contending only to have the door slammed in their faces.

Danny boy is to blame for the Redskins possible demise. His inability to effectively manage a cap is on him, not anyone else.