Non conference cupcake offenders.

WolverineSteve · Post by **WolverineSteve** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:22 am

This is the time of year for such research. I think more than playing weaker opponents at home or within one school's region, the biggest pussy move a school can make is playing non-division 1 schools. So I did some checking, and with all due apologies to Shaz, I present the offenders...

Since 1980

ACC-has played 162 games against non D-1 schools.

Wake Forest 30 times
NS St. 30
Clemson 20
GaTech 20
UVA 18
BC 13
Miami 10
Duke 8
FSU 8
UNC 8
Maryland 4
VaTech 0

Big 12, 110

KSU 23
Kansas 15
ISU 14
Ok St. 13
aTm 12
Baylor 10
TT 8
Mizz 5
Neb 5
OU 3
TX 2
Colo 0

SEC, 86

S.C. 14
Miss 13
Auburn 12
Miss St. 9
Vandy 8
UF 7
UGA 7
UK 7
Bama 4
Ark 4
Tenn 1
LSU 0

Pac 10 42

Oregon St 16
WSU 11
Oregon 6
Arisona 3
ASU 3
Stanford 2
Cal 1
Wash 0
USC 0
UCLA 0

BIG 10 25

Minnie 8
Ill 3
IU 3
Iowa 3
Wisc 3
PSU 2
Purdue 2
NW 1
Michigan 0
MSU 0
OSU 0

campinfool · Post by **campinfool** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:36 am

That's a huge pet peeve of mine as well. Unfortunatley Texas is going that route this coming year with 1-AA Sam Houston State on the schedule. I can understand and even sympathize with some lesser 1-A schools playing these games, but it's pretty sad when teams in the middle or upper echelon of the major conferences schedule these types of games. IMHO its an insult to the fans who fork out a lot of dough for tickets.

BlindRef · Post by **BlindRef** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:47 am

Rack the Big Ten.

BlindRef · Post by **BlindRef** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:53 am

LSU is wrong...they played Appalachian State last year...and I am pretty sure they've played more than that.

WolverineSteve · Post by **WolverineSteve** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:56 am

BlindRef wrote:LSU is wrong...they played Appalachian State last year...and I am pretty sure they've played more than that.

I dont know if I had last season on there. I'll look into it.

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:53 am

since when did Western Illinois, Citadel, Western Carolina, and appalacian st become Div1 schools? (LSU schedule since 00)

so that's 4 cream puffers!

Who made that list up? Fact check a little?

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:00 am

geez,

Virginia Tech 03/04 James Madison , 99 james madison

c'mon. that is just going back to 99.

WolverineSteve · Post by **WolverineSteve** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:33 am

Shoddy research, but y'all get the point.

PS. Best I could do whilst watching hoops. :wink:

Harvdog · Post by **Harvdog** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:49 am

campinfool wrote:That's a huge pet peeve of mine as well. Unfortunatley Texas is going that route this coming year with 1-AA Sam Houston State on the schedule. I can understand and even sympathize with some lesser 1-A schools playing these games, but it's pretty sad when teams in the middle or upper echelon of the major conferences schedule these types of games. IMHO its an insult to the fans who fork out a lot of dough for tickets.

We had to get a 12th game and we couldn't find anyone to play. We had BC on the schedule but they backed out. At least UCLA is coming to Austin. I still need some redemption from 1997.

L45B · Post by **L45B** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:51 am

Indeed, Rack the Big Ten. However, Ohio State might cave by scheduling Tressel's old team-- Youngstown State.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:15 am

campinfool wrote:That's a huge pet peeve of mine as well. Unfortunatley Texas is going that route this coming year with 1-AA Sam Houston State on the schedule. I can understand and even sympathize with some lesser 1-A schools playing these games, but it's pretty sad when teams in the middle or upper echelon of the major conferences schedule these types of games. IMHO its an insult to the fans who fork out a lot of dough for tickets.

SHS is a last minute add due to the NCAA allowing a 12th game. I wouldn't really count that. If I remember correctly the two that Texas has played are both North Texas State when they were D1-AA.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:58 am

COlorado plays Montana or Montana State this year. i think they are D-II.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 1:54 pm

To be fair a good number of these are because a team had another D-1 school back out a contract. See Auburn backing out of a number of contracts and then their scheduled opponent having to scramble to fill a game with little notice.

Some though are of the KSU mentality. While others as Trix tried to argue are just for the 6th home game. Remember the money trumps the fact that they are playing poor non-conf opponents.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:35 pm

L45B wrote:Indeed, Rack the Big Ten. However, Ohio State might cave by scheduling Tressel's old team-- Youngstown State.

PSU already did it.

stuckinia · Post by **stuckinia** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:54 pm

Adelpiero wrote:geez,

Virginia Tech 03/04 James Madison , 99 james madison

c'mon. that is just going back to 99.

Correct. I think there were a lot more in the 80s, although Tech wasn't much better than a DIaa school back then.

I originally thought the 0 next to Va Tech was the number of seasons they had NOT scheduled a DIaa or equally suck school.

quacker backer · Post by **quacker backer** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:01 pm

Left Seater wrote:To be fair a good number of these are because a team had another D-1 school back out a contract. See Auburn backing out of a number of contracts and then their scheduled opponent having to scramble to fill a game with little notice.

see Portland State vs Oregon this season (dayum Utah State pussies)

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:55 pm

Left Seater wrote:To be fair a good number of these are because a team had another D-1 school back out a contract. See Auburn backing out of a number of contracts and then their scheduled opponent having to scramble to fill a game with little notice.

Thats what happened to FSU. AUburn backed out of the contract, so we had to go scrambling for teams w/ open dates.

MuchoBulls · Post by **MuchoBulls** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:11 pm

Believe the Heupel wrote:Pardon me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Ohio State schedule one terrible Ohio team each year? Is it always a D-1 team?

I know they have played Cincinnati in recent years.

WolverineSteve · Post by **WolverineSteve** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:15 pm

Cinci is d-1. OSU usually plays OH MAC teams.

MuchoBulls · Post by **MuchoBulls** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:59 pm

WolverineSteve wrote:Cinci is d-1. OSU usually plays OH MAC teams.

I know Cincinnati is Division 1 A. BTH asked if they played 1 A teams in Ohio and I knew that they played Cincinnati a couple of times over the past few years.

L45B · Post by **L45B** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:03 pm

^^^Nope. Ohio MAC & (formerly) C-USA schools. Toledo, BG, Ohio, Miami, Kent State, Akron, Cincinnati have all been to the 'Shoe in recent years.

Northern Illinois is on the slate for '06.

FLW Buckeye · Post by **FLW Buckeye** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:08 pm

BTH- tOSU has played Oberlin 25 times with a record of 13-9-3. The last time they played was 1922.

Just for shits and giggles.

Terry in Crapchester · Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:12 pm

I'd like to point out that since the NCAA began classifying teams as Division I, etc., beginning in 1973, ND has never played a team that was not D-I, or later, D-IA.

FLW Buckeye · Post by **FLW Buckeye** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:16 pm

Seems to be interest in the Buckeye OOC schedule. Here it is for your viewing pleasure (L = loss):

1980: Syracuse, Arizona State, UCLA(L)
1981: Duke, Stanford, FSU (L)
1982: Baylor, Stanford (L), FSU (L)
1983: Oregon, Oklahoma
1984: Oregon State, Washington State
1985: Pittsburgh, Colorado, Washington State
1986: Alabama (L), Washington (L), Colorado, Utah
1987: West Virginia, Oregon, LSU (Tie)
1988: Syracuse, Pittsburgh (L), LSU
1989: Oklahoma State, USC (L), Boston College
1990: Texas Tech, Boston College, USC (L)
1991: Arizona, Louisville, Washington State
1992: Louisville, Bowling Green, Syracuse (note: The Bowling Green game was tOSU's first in state opponent since Nov 1934)
1993: Rice, Washington, Pittsburgh
1994: Fresno State, Washington (L), Pittsburgh, Houston
1995: Boston College, Washington, Pittsburgh, Notre Dame
1996: Rice, Pittsburgh, Notre Dame
1997: Wyoming, Bowling Green, Arizona, Missouri
1998: West Virginia, Toledo, Missouri
1999: Miami (L), UCLA, Ohio, Cincinnati
2000: Fresno State, Arizona, Miami (OH)
2001: Akron, UCLA (L), San Diego State
2002: Texas Tech, Kent State, Washington State, Cincinnati, San Jose State
2003: Washington, San Diego State, North Carolina State, Bowling Green
2004: Cincinnati, Washington, North Carolina State
2005: Miami (OH), Texas (L), San Diego State

WolverineSteve · Post by **WolverineSteve** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:27 am

Like I said, most of OSU's creampuffs are in-state MAC schools or Cinci.

It can be understood that a team plays a less than stellar opponent when somebody bails out of a contract, but how often has that happened to where a d-1 team can't be found? The schools with more than 1 or 2 occurences, I would bet, sought out the scrub squads.

Jimmy Medalions · Post by **Jimmy Medalions** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:45 am

WolverineSteve wrote:The schools with more than 1 or 2 occurences, I would bet, sought out the scrub squads.

I hooked them up, actually.

peter dragon · Post by **peter dragon** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:46 am

doesnt OSU still pay MAC conference dues every year. hell with what 6 mac teams in ohio and all D1 it makes sence they schedule them. keep some of that money instate.