OU Spring Game

the_ouskull · Post by **the_ouskull** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:25 pm

Well, the boys looked decent today. AD wanted to be set free (RELEASE THE HOUNDS) but he was wearing the blue, so his numbers probably sucked.

The D looked REALLY good, as they usually do in the Spring, and our new QB recruit looked really good at times and really shitty at times. I'm not going to be too much more specific 'cause I'm drunk and you guys don't deserve it. I'm calling my shot now though. Another BCS Bowl for the Sooner in 2006.

the_ouskull

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:08 pm

Now that we had the sugar-coated view of the ou spring game, can someone give the unbiased, unsugar-coated version.

I hear your QBs sucked and your oline was worse.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:23 pm

Of course their bias, this is why I asked for an unbiased view. BTW according to the numbers put up by the QBs I would say my sourse isn't too far off.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:52 pm

Believe the Heupel wrote:
What I was looking for was whether the QBs made good decisions and whether they were throwing good balls. Bomar showed a heck of a lot more touch than he did last year-there were a few easy catches that were dropped. He was also making decisions better than he did last year.

Nice to see our defensive backs have learned to catch the ball now and then as well.

Is this the PC way of saying that Bomar threw 2 picks in a row.

I guess two turnovers is better than 5.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:33 pm

I thought the OLIne played pretty damn well considering we have only seven on campus able to play and they had to play an entire 60 minutes on the field both ways.

I also thought our QBs played pretty well, especially in comparisson to the last scrimage report I heard out of Austin. Top two QBs combined for 7 ints in a short scrimage.

the_ouskull · Post by **the_ouskull** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:48 am

Yeah, the O-Line actually DID play pretty well. They're pocket protecting well, but it's obvious that they're not used to playing with Bomar, rolling out with him, etc... The plays where Bomar sat still and just flung it, he looked pretty good, although he's still doing "cowboy shit" with the ball too, trying to aim it and force it instead of letting his receivers make plays...

The defense looked REALLY good, but, admittedly, it's easy to look good when you only have to get near AD to "tackle" him. He would have broken at least 2 runs, based on where the D was... and he'd have broken a screen pass as well. AD catching balls out of the backfield is gonna be unfair on people... Who, in the country, NOT collecting an NFL check, can consistantly stop him one-on-one...?

So, like I said, with no sugar-coating... Barring major injuries, we're BCS-bound.

the_ouskull

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:07 am

Actually both Texas QBs combined for 2 TDs and 2 ints.

It is expected for our QBs to struggle since one has gone through a redshirt season with no actual game time and the other should still be in high school.

Its been reported that both McCoy and Snead are playing with a lot of poise and confidence. I'm worried about our QBs but I know our coaches will do a good job of protecting them and not force them to do things that are beyond their ability.

Our defense is better than any we will face on our schedule, so I know we will be in every game. We have enough offensive weapons that our QBs won't have to carry the team.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:41 pm

Vito Corleone wrote:Actually both Texas QBs combined for 2 TDs and 2 ints.

It is expected for our QBs to struggle since one has gone through a redshirt season with no actual game time and the other should still be in high school.

Its been reported that both McCoy and Snead are playing with a lot of poise and confidence. I'm worried about our QBs but I know our coaches will do a good job of protecting them and not force them to do things that are beyond their ability.

Our defense is better than any we will face on our schedule, so I know we will be in every game. We have enough offensive weapons that our QBs won't have to carry the team.

Funny that isn't what I hear and from your own fans at that.

McCoy couldn't hit water falling out of a boat from what I have heard and Snead couldn't stay in the pockect if they chained him to the Guard.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:00 am

No both QBs had pretty identical stats, Snead did lead Texas on two TD drives, both threw a stupid pick that they shouldn't have.

But sor far neither has seperated themselves apart from the other.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:09 am

Vito Corleone wrote:

But sor far neither has seperated themselves apart from the other.

you make it so easy.....

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:49 am

By the by It wasn't in texass main scrimmage that McCoy threw 4 INTs and Snead 3. It was a scrimmage earlier in the week. And it was a combined 7 INTs. All three of OU's QBs haven't combined for 7 INTs in a single scrimmage or even two combined all spring.

Harvdog · Post by **Harvdog** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:45 am

SunCoastSooner wrote:By the by It wasn't in texass main scrimmage that McCoy threw 4 INTs and Snead 3. It was a scrimmage earlier in the week. And it was a combined 7 INTs. All three of OU's QBs haven't combined for 7 INTs in a single scrimmage or even two combined all spring.

By sooner logic I guess that means your defense must not be that good. Christ, after Stoops cures cancer, he will have the ADT trphy renamed in his honor.

You guys kill me. BCS bound??? The games don't start until September and you are BCS bound??? All it takes is 1 injury and you are done. You better hope that TCU isn't on the slate this year, that could be another setback for the mighty BCS bound sooners.

OUMO · Post by **OUMO** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:50 am

After Ohio St pounds Tejas in their own crib we will be happy to hand a second loss to you in October. No BCS for the whorns.

Harvdog · Post by **Harvdog** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:55 am

OUMO wrote:After Ohio St pounds Tejas in their own crib we will be happy to hand a second loss to you in October. No BCS for the whorns.

We will see. You should worry about UAB and Middle Tennessee St. After the way OU played against Tulsa and TCU, there is a loss in there somewhere.

OUMO · Post by **OUMO** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:05 am

Way more scared of @Oregon than @Tejas.

It is hard to repeat, USC and Miami could not do it and Tejas certainly will not.

As shitty as OU was, we lost 4 games, 1 to the MNChampion and the other because of refs.

I feel pretty confident that OU will be in a BCS bowl and the Tejas will not.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:51 am

Harvdog wrote:
OUMO wrote:After Ohio St pounds Tejas in their own crib we will be happy to hand a second loss to you in October. No BCS for the whorns.
We will see. You should worry about UAB and Middle Tennessee St. After the way OU played against Tulsa and TCU, there is a loss in there somewhere.

Tulsa and TCU won their conferences what was your excuses for Arkansas when they tossed your ass in Austin a few years ago?

Bob Stoops defenses haven't finished outside of the top 30 in six years Texass sure as hell can't say that. My how quickly tejass fan has forgotten the five ass kickings in a row they received from Stoops.

Harvdog · Post by **Harvdog** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:41 am

SunCoastSooner wrote:
Harvdog wrote:
OUMO wrote:After Ohio St pounds Tejas in their own crib we will be happy to hand a second loss to you in October. No BCS for the whorns.
We will see. You should worry about UAB and Middle Tennessee St. After the way OU played against Tulsa and TCU, there is a loss in there somewhere.
Tulsa and TCU won their conferences what was your excuses for Arkansas when they tossed your ass in Austin a few years ago?

Bob Stoops defenses haven't finished outside of the top 30 in six years Texass sure as hell can't say that. My how quickly tejass fan has forgotten the five ass kickings in a row they received from Stoops.

Why must you live in the past? When Bill did this shit it was myopia at its best. Now we have scoreboard and listen to the whiny ass sooners. Who cares about 5 years ago??? It is over. Head to head we have 56 wins. ou???? 39. Scoreboard.

Are you telling me that TCU and Tulsa are good?????? Please. You are really reaching now. This is worse than Jon.

OUMO.... the refs??? are you fucking serious????? That is typical. You lose to an inferior team scream referee bias??

So when USC put up the double nickel, the refs were fucking you????

Please. Someone pile on.

OUMO · Post by **OUMO** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:08 am

Everyone in the country saw OU get pounded by USC, we got our ass kicked. You beat them in another year when all the teams were different. Fuck you won the NC, enjoy it already.

As for the Tech game, yes Oklahoma got ripped off by the refs, it has been shown and shown again, even the leauge office knows. If your football team is so damned good why do you give a fuck if OU went 8-3 or 7-4 anyway?

OU is about to kick your Tejas ass in Dallas again, we might not win 5 in a row, but I will bank on another 3.

I do have forgivness for you, because I know as a Texas fan it is hard to relate to other fans who have teams that have won multiple MNCs in thier life time.

You have untested QBs with a coach that has a tendancy to fuck things up really bad when there is not clear cut leader.

tOSU is going to rob OU of ruining your season first anyway, OU gets sloppy seconds.

That is what Tejas is this year, sloppy seconds U.

:twisted:

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:26 am

Harvdog wrote:
SunCoastSooner wrote:
Harvdog wrote: We will see. You should worry about UAB and Middle Tennessee St. After the way OU played against Tulsa and TCU, there is a loss in there somewhere.
Tulsa and TCU won their conferences what was your excuses for Arkansas when they tossed your ass in Austin a few years ago?

Bob Stoops defenses haven't finished outside of the top 30 in six years Texass sure as hell can't say that. My how quickly tejass fan has forgotten the five ass kickings in a row they received from Stoops.
Why must you live in the past? When Bill did this shit it was myopia at its best. Now we have scoreboard and listen to the whiny ass sooners. Who cares about 5 years ago??? It is over. Head to head we have 56 wins. ou???? 39. Scoreboard.

Congrats that your great great... hold on let me catch my breath... great grandfather watched texass riddle off 26 victories before Japan bombed Pearl Harbor and we were still wearing leather helmets. You can do the math on the series since but I'll give you a hint on it, the only decade that texass hasn't come up on the short end of the stick were the 60s and 90s.

Are you telling me that TCU and Tulsa are good?????? Please. You are really reaching now. This is worse than Jon.

Yeah typically I would charicterize a team that goes 11-1, averages over 30 points a game, finishes in the top 30 of virtualy every major offensive catagory as a good team. Kind of a stark difference in comparisson to texass fan making excuses for teams like Arkansas, Texass Tech, Oregon, and Colorado the last few years.

OUMO.... the refs??? are you fucking serious????? That is typical. You lose to an inferior team scream referee bias??

There isn't a person in this country that isn't wearing Orange or a texass Tech fan that doesn't know beyond a shadow of a doubt that we got screwed by the officials against Texass Tech. Hell even ESPN was rehashing that shit during the Holiday Bowl. You should be familiar with that Bowl. If we ever go back I need to inquire towards Texass fan if I can use their time share that I am positive many have purchased by now seeing as though you spend so much time there during Bowl season typically.

So when USC put up the double nickel, the refs were fucking you????

How quaint and funny that texass fan can fall back on USC's "double nickel" they laid on us in a year that Radio and tejass couldn't even put a point up on the board against OU in. You must be proud of that, having a team that you couldn't manage a field goal against getting embarressed on national TV. Wonder just what the hell that says about texass. Good thing USC didn't have the Defense this year they had last.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:22 am

Scoreboard is scoreboard

We have it right now and we have it overall. I know its hard to face the facts but learn to deal with them. As for Texas vs tOSU, I have no doubt that it will be a great game and we might just lose.

I can tell you this, I'm not as worried as I once was. Our defense is just as experienced as their offense is, while their defense is no where near as experienced as our offense is.

It should be a good game.

The one thing I am sure of is that Texas is better across the board than Oklahoma. Spin it all you want but outside of AD, Birdsong and maybe Alexander there isn't a single starter I would take over what we have at Texas.

Sugar coat it all you want but your oline and Dbs still suck. I see two maybe 3 losses this year for stoops.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:12 pm

Vito Corleone wrote:Scoreboard is scoreboard

We have it right now and we have it overall. I know its hard to face the facts but learn to deal with them. As for Texas vs tOSU, I have no doubt that it will be a great game and we might just lose.

I can tell you this, I'm not as worried as I once was. Our defense is just as experienced as their offense is, while their defense is no where near as experienced as our offense is.

It should be a good game.

The one thing I am sure of is that Texas is better across the board than Oklahoma. Spin it all you want but outside of AD, Birdsong and maybe Alexander there isn't a single starter I would take over what we have at Texas.

Sugar coat it all you want but your oline and Dbs still suck. I see two maybe 3 losses this year for stoops.

Are you smoking rock? Our Dline is considerably better than yours. Hell DLine isn't only considerably better than yours but it is almost certainly the deepest and most stacked in the country. The only player we have lost is Dvorcek on the line. We have a 6th year redhisrt/medical redshirt who has started the previous year and a half who is just trying to make sure he will get to see the field next season deep. Your QBs, right now, make Bomar look like Bart Starr.

Harvdog · Post by **Harvdog** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:31 pm

SunCoastSooner wrote:
Vito Corleone wrote:Scoreboard is scoreboard

We have it right now and we have it overall. I know its hard to face the facts but learn to deal with them. As for Texas vs tOSU, I have no doubt that it will be a great game and we might just lose.

I can tell you this, I'm not as worried as I once was. Our defense is just as experienced as their offense is, while their defense is no where near as experienced as our offense is.

It should be a good game.

The one thing I am sure of is that Texas is better across the board than Oklahoma. Spin it all you want but outside of AD, Birdsong and maybe Alexander there isn't a single starter I would take over what we have at Texas.

Sugar coat it all you want but your oline and Dbs still suck. I see two maybe 3 losses this year for stoops.
Are you smoking rock? Our Dline is considerably better than yours. Hell DLine isn't only considerably better than yours but it is almost certainly the deepest and most stacked in the country. The only player we have lost is Dvorcek on the line. We have a 6th year redhisrt/medical redshirt who has started the previous year and a half who is just trying to make sure he will get to see the field next season deep. Your QBs, right now, make Bomar look like Bart Starr.

I am sorry. I have watched Bomar and he isn't that good. He is a run first QB with a weak arm. He cannot throw the long ball. He isn't very accurate. I loved it in your spring game when he completed a slant for a TD and then ran down the field sporting the #1 finger. Classic.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:35 pm

Harvdog wrote:I am sorry. I have watched Bomar and he isn't that good. He is a run first QB with a weak arm. He cannot throw the long ball. He isn't very accurate.

Where have I heard this before.......

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:13 pm

Harvdog wrote:
SunCoastSooner wrote:
Vito Corleone wrote:Scoreboard is scoreboard

We have it right now and we have it overall. I know its hard to face the facts but learn to deal with them. As for Texas vs tOSU, I have no doubt that it will be a great game and we might just lose.

I can tell you this, I'm not as worried as I once was. Our defense is just as experienced as their offense is, while their defense is no where near as experienced as our offense is.

It should be a good game.

The one thing I am sure of is that Texas is better across the board than Oklahoma. Spin it all you want but outside of AD, Birdsong and maybe Alexander there isn't a single starter I would take over what we have at Texas.

Sugar coat it all you want but your oline and Dbs still suck. I see two maybe 3 losses this year for stoops.
Are you smoking rock? Our Dline is considerably better than yours. Hell DLine isn't only considerably better than yours but it is almost certainly the deepest and most stacked in the country. The only player we have lost is Dvorcek on the line. We have a 6th year redhisrt/medical redshirt who has started the previous year and a half who is just trying to make sure he will get to see the field next season deep. Your QBs, right now, make Bomar look like Bart Starr.
I am sorry. I have watched Bomar and he isn't that good. He is a run first QB with a weak arm. He cannot throw the long ball. He isn't very accurate. I loved it in your spring game when he completed a slant for a TD and then ran down the field sporting the #1 finger. Classic.

Someone who lauds Vince Young as God's gift to football is talking shit about Bomar's arms and a run first attitude?

Jesus you want to go and compare Bomar's freshman numbers last season against Vince Young's freshman year?

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:51 pm

SunCoastSooner wrote:
Vito Corleone wrote:Scoreboard is scoreboard

We have it right now and we have it overall. I know its hard to face the facts but learn to deal with them. As for Texas vs tOSU, I have no doubt that it will be a great game and we might just lose.

I can tell you this, I'm not as worried as I once was. Our defense is just as experienced as their offense is, while their defense is no where near as experienced as our offense is.

It should be a good game.

The one thing I am sure of is that Texas is better across the board than Oklahoma. Spin it all you want but outside of AD, Birdsong and maybe Alexander there isn't a single starter I would take over what we have at Texas.

Sugar coat it all you want but your oline and Dbs still suck. I see two maybe 3 losses this year for stoops.
Are you smoking rock? Our Dline is considerably better than yours. Hell DLine isn't only considerably better than yours but it is almost certainly the deepest and most stacked in the country. The only player we have lost is Dvorcek on the line. We have a 6th year redhisrt/medical redshirt who has started the previous year and a half who is just trying to make sure he will get to see the field next season deep. Your QBs, right now, make Bomar look like Bart Starr.

This might be the dumbest thing you have ever posted and that is saying something.

Here is what Texas has coming back.

Brian Robison - who is by far the best DE in the Big 12. He was 1st or 2nd team All Big 12 by several publications. If you don't remember Robison maybe this will jog your memory

Tim Crowder - who was nominated All-Big 12 Fist team by the coaches and a finalist for the Hendricks award.

AT DT Texas is a legit 4 deep maybe five depending on how Alexander pans out. But we return a legit AA candidate in Frank Okam (2nd team all Big 12) and two guys who will be fighting for the other starting spot in Roy Miller (The guy credited for stopping Lendale White on 4th and 1) and Derek Lockey who is the strongest guy on the team he (has a 550 lb bench).

Yea I feel pretty confident in saying that there is no way in hell that the spooners have a better Dline.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:06 pm

Birdine was almost a lock for All American before he got hurt, not Big 12 All American. Birdine is by far the best DE in the conference, possibly the country. Oklahoma has two defensive ends returning who both had more tacles, sacks, and hurries than Robinson; one of those is Calvin Thibedeux who has fallen so far down the depth chart at DE with Williams, Birdine, and Dotson all returning from injuries or academic problems that he will be lucky to see the field for a couple of plays a game. This is without even mentioning C.J. Ah You's return. Why don't you ask Vince Young his memories of Larry Birdine sacking him 4 times in two outings. If this concept is too difficult for you to grasp vito let me spell it out for you; Oklahoma now has a kid sitting as the #2 DE on the third string of thier defense (as in not even on our two deep any longer) who not only is a better DE than the best one on your entire team, and actualy was on the first team of the Big 12 All conference team, but statistically was vastly superior to Robinson. According to the Big 12 website you must be full of shit about Robinson because he didn't even make the Honorable mention list for the All Big 12 Team. Basically your trying to tell this board that a kid who couldn't even make honorable mention all conference is now suddenly the best defensive end in the conference.

I've heard some bullshit in my time but that has to take the cake. This is all just at defensive end.

Oklahoma had four members of the defensive line unit make, in some faucet, the All conference team, three are returning, and this is discounting the fact that our three best, other than Dvorcek, in the unit were all unable to play last season.

At defensive tackle Oklahoma has three of the previous five years number #1 DT recruits in the country on its roster. Texass was able to eek out one DT on the all conference honorable mention team and I believe that Dibbles graduated. Outside of that you have Okam who is good but certainly single handedly doesn't over take two of the top 5 DT tacklers in the conference at Oklahoma all by his lonesome. You're trying to claim that a four star freshman from South Carolina is going to be your saviour at DT and is better than the most covetted DT at the high school level in a number of years and a kid who absolutly dominated the Army All Star Game, ala Adrian Peterson, single handedly when in the game. The same kid that had Pete Carroll basically camped on the southside of Oklahoma City for almost a week to try and convince him to come to Los Angeles.

That's rich, rich enough to send a young man into diabetic sugar shock. It's going to suck for you when you realize that the only 5 star defensive tackle to come out of the state of texass in the last three years will be making his tackles in crimson cream this year coming off his redshirt season (DeMarcus Granger). Maybe Janszen will suddenly become a man amongst boys this fall.

Outside of texass fan there isn't a person in the country who would have the audacity to claim that Okam, Janszen, Alexander, Lokey are better than Pendalton, Granger, Bennett, McCoy, Moore, and Coleman.

Instead of saying this on another thread and in another post I figure I'll just pile this on here. As to your previouys claim that texass is the most watched football team on earth... Bullshit is officially called. According to the Big 12 Conference 2005 Updated Media Guide Texass isn't even the most watched team in the conference.

I'll give you three guesses as to who is but only one counts. That team is also the only team in the conference that has had every single one of its games on television for three years running. I wouldn't look for that string to end this year either.

The same team that brought in the highest rated non BCS Bowl game this season and the same team that brought in the most watched Holiday Bowl in the history of the event.

You can put all that in your pipe and smoke it with the rest of the dope you have to be flooding your mind with.

Harvdog · Post by **Harvdog** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:36 pm

SunCoastSooner wrote:Birdine was almost a lock for All American before he got hurt, not Big 12 All American. Birdine is by far the best DE in the conference, possibly the country. Oklahoma has two defensive ends returning who both had more tacles, sacks, and hurries than Robinson; one of those is Calvin Thibedeux who has fallen so far down the depth chart at DE with Williams, Birdine, and Dotson all returning from injuries or academic problems that he will be lucky to see the field for a couple of plays a game. This is without even mentioning C.J. Ah You's return. Why don't you ask Vince Young his memories of Larry Birdine sacking him 4 times in two outings. If this concept is too difficult for you to grasp vito let me spell it out for you; Oklahoma now has a kid sitting as the #2 DE on the third string of thier defense (as in not even on our two deep any longer) who not only is a better DE than the best one on your entire team, and actualy was on the first team of the Big 12 All conference team, but statistically was vastly superior to Robinson. According to the Big 12 website you must be full of shit about Robinson because he didn't even make the Honorable mention list for the All Big 12 Team. Basically your trying to tell this board that a kid who couldn't even make honorable mention all conference is now suddenly the best defensive end in the conference. I've heard some bullshit in my time but that has to take the cake. This is all just at defensive end.

Oklahoma had four members of the defensive line unit make, in some faucet, the All conference team, three are returning, and this is discounting the fact that our three best, other than Dvorcek, in the unit were all unable to play last season.

At defensive tackle Oklahoma has three of the previous five years number #1 DT recruits in the country on its roster. Texass was able to eek out one DT on the all conference honorable mention team and I believe that Dibbles graduated. Outside of that you have Okam who is good but certainly single handedly doesn't over take two of the top 5 DT tacklers in the conference at Oklahoma all by his lonesome. You're trying to claim that a four star freshman from South Carolina is going to be your saviour at DT and is better than the most covetted DT at the high school level in a number of years and a kid who absolutly dominated the Army All Star Game, ala Adrian Peterson, single handedly when in the game. That's rich, rich enough to send a young man into diabetic sugar shock. It's going to suck for you when you realize that the only 5 star defensive tackle to come out of the state of texass in the last three years will be making his tackles in crimson cream this year coming off his redshirt season (DeMarcus Granger). Maybe Janszen will suddenly become a man amongst boys this fall. Outside of texass fan there isn't a person in the country who would have the audacity to claim that Okam, Janszen, Alexander, Lokey are better than Pendalton, Granger, Bennett, McCoy, Moore, and Coleman.

Instead of saying this on another thread and in another post I figure I'll just pile this on here. As to your previouys claim that texass is the most watched football team on earth... Bullshit is officially called. According to the Big 12 Conference 2005 Updated Media Guide Texass isn't even the most watched team in the conference. I'll give you three guesses as to who is but only one counts. That team is also the only team in the conference that has had every single one of its games on television for three years running. I wouldn't look for that string to end this year either. The same team that brought in the highest rated non BCS Bowl game this season and the same team that brought in the most watched Holiday Bowl in the history of the event.

You can put all that in your pipe and smoke it with the rest of the dope you have to be flooding your mind with.

I think that you need to check your facts before you show up here and pump your chest out.

According to the Big XII OU had 1 player make first team all DL (Dvoracek) and 1 on the 2nd team (Thibadeaux). On the flip side, Texas had 2 First Team selections on DL with Wright and Crowder and 1 on the 2nd team with Okam.

Ah You was an honorable mention choice. We had Orapko and Robison make honoralbe mention. You must have confused Robison with a Robinson.

So to recap, you had 1 first team, 1 second team and 1 HM. That equal 3. I know it must be hard for you to do simple things like add. That's cool. We had all 4 players make the Big XII honors and 3 are returning. I feel real good about our DL.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:40 pm

Harvdog wrote:
SunCoastSooner wrote:Birdine was almost a lock for All American before he got hurt, not Big 12 All American. Birdine is by far the best DE in the conference, possibly the country. Oklahoma has two defensive ends returning who both had more tacles, sacks, and hurries than Robinson; one of those is Calvin Thibedeux who has fallen so far down the depth chart at DE with Williams, Birdine, and Dotson all returning from injuries or academic problems that he will be lucky to see the field for a couple of plays a game. This is without even mentioning C.J. Ah You's return. Why don't you ask Vince Young his memories of Larry Birdine sacking him 4 times in two outings. If this concept is too difficult for you to grasp vito let me spell it out for you; Oklahoma now has a kid sitting as the #2 DE on the third string of thier defense (as in not even on our two deep any longer) who not only is a better DE than the best one on your entire team, and actualy was on the first team of the Big 12 All conference team, but statistically was vastly superior to Robinson. According to the Big 12 website you must be full of shit about Robinson because he didn't even make the Honorable mention list for the All Big 12 Team. Basically your trying to tell this board that a kid who couldn't even make honorable mention all conference is now suddenly the best defensive end in the conference. I've heard some bullshit in my time but that has to take the cake. This is all just at defensive end.

Oklahoma had four members of the defensive line unit make, in some faucet, the All conference team, three are returning, and this is discounting the fact that our three best, other than Dvorcek, in the unit were all unable to play last season.

At defensive tackle Oklahoma has three of the previous five years number #1 DT recruits in the country on its roster. Texass was able to eek out one DT on the all conference honorable mention team and I believe that Dibbles graduated. Outside of that you have Okam who is good but certainly single handedly doesn't over take two of the top 5 DT tacklers in the conference at Oklahoma all by his lonesome. You're trying to claim that a four star freshman from South Carolina is going to be your saviour at DT and is better than the most covetted DT at the high school level in a number of years and a kid who absolutly dominated the Army All Star Game, ala Adrian Peterson, single handedly when in the game. That's rich, rich enough to send a young man into diabetic sugar shock. It's going to suck for you when you realize that the only 5 star defensive tackle to come out of the state of texass in the last three years will be making his tackles in crimson cream this year coming off his redshirt season (DeMarcus Granger). Maybe Janszen will suddenly become a man amongst boys this fall. Outside of texass fan there isn't a person in the country who would have the audacity to claim that Okam, Janszen, Alexander, Lokey are better than Pendalton, Granger, Bennett, McCoy, Moore, and Coleman.

Instead of saying this on another thread and in another post I figure I'll just pile this on here. As to your previouys claim that texass is the most watched football team on earth... Bullshit is officially called. According to the Big 12 Conference 2005 Updated Media Guide Texass isn't even the most watched team in the conference. I'll give you three guesses as to who is but only one counts. That team is also the only team in the conference that has had every single one of its games on television for three years running. I wouldn't look for that string to end this year either. The same team that brought in the highest rated non BCS Bowl game this season and the same team that brought in the most watched Holiday Bowl in the history of the event.

You can put all that in your pipe and smoke it with the rest of the dope you have to be flooding your mind with.
I think that you need to check your facts before you show up here and pump your chest out.

According to the Big XII OU had 1 player make first team all DL (Dvoracek) and 1 on the 2nd team (Thibadeaux). On the flip side, Texas had 2 First Team selections on DL with Wright and Crowder and 1 on the 2nd team with Okam.

Ah You was an honorable mention choice. We had Orapko and Robison make honoralbe mention. You must have confused Robison with a Robinson.

So to recap, you had 1 first team, 1 second team and 1 HM. That equal 3. I know it must be hard for you to do simple things like add. That's cool. We had all 4 players make the Big XII honors and 3 are returning. I feel real good about our DL.

I got mine from the AP. Yours is the coaches selection. I probably did confuse Robinson with Robison; either way neither of them were selected for the all conference team in any way shape or form, AP or coaches but now he suddenly the best in the conference. Please tell me you don't subscribe to that shit Harvdog. He may be good but he certainly isn't the best in the conferece. If you asked anyone on the national perspective who the best DE in the Big 12 is they will almost all tell you Birdine. He was killing Oregon last December and he had only be able to practice, much less play, for only 3 weeks. As I said before three of our four best Dline players last year didn't play almost the entire season. Williams and Birdine both went out in the first game (Williams may have gone down against Tulsa but IIRC it was TCU. Birdine was also as close to an All American lock as they come before he went out against TCU and didn't return until the Holiday Bowl.

Oh and not only do we have a larger television following than Texass we have a better average attendance at home than texass does as well.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:47 pm

Birdline was once considered an All American but after a serious knee injury he is an unknown.

Only a sooner moron would claim the spooners have a better dline than Texas.

BTW our starting DTs next year will be Okam and Roy Miller. Miller is not an unknown commodity he is the guy who committed to the spooners but realized he made a mistake and made the switch to Texas.

I didn't bother mentioning the depth Texas has at DE. Lets start with Brian Orakpo who is just as talented as any of our starters and would probably start for the spooners last year.

Texas also has Aaron Lewis who redshirted last year but has been tearing up our oline this spring.

If that doesn't do it for you how about the top rated DE in the country in Eddie Jones and the #4 rated DE in Lamar Houston coming in.

The best part about this whole argument is that I know that our dline is not only better but when we face they will be going against an oline that none of which would start at Texas. While your dline will be facing the best oline in the country.

Kinda put everything into perspective.

As for the 2k5 media guide why don't you wait for the 2k6 media guide to see the real numbers.

Texas played in the most watched Rose Bowl this century and beat the team considered by everyone to be the greatest of all time, the same team that beat the shit out of blOwU just 12 months before.

BTW what day was the Holiday bowl played?

And if you had such a superior Dline last year why is it that you still lost 4 games? I guess it was the refs.

Need I say more.

Harvdog · Post by **Harvdog** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:04 pm

SCS..I think that we both have great Dlines. The real test will be in the trenches on October 8. That is the nice thing about our schools, we have tons of talent and when the 2nd team is in the game you can hardly tell a difference.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:08 pm

Vito Corleone wrote:Birdline was once considered an All American but after a serious knee injury he is an unknown.

Ask Oregon fan just how unknown he is coming off his injury. You obviously didn't watch much of it.

Only a sooner moron would claim the spooners have a better dline than Texas.

BTW our starting DTs next year will be Okam and Roy Miller. Miller is not an unknown commodity he is the guy who committed to the spooners but realized he made a mistake and made the switch to Texas.

Damn I guess we'll just have to settle for McCoy and Granger, the only two kids in either Oklahoma or Texass who have been five star recruits at the position in the last 3 years.

I didn't bother mentioning the depth Texas has at DE. Lets start with Brian Orakpo who is just as talented as any of our starters and would probably start for the spooners last year.

Over who? C.J. Ah You who was projected as a second round draft pick before he decided to come back? Or maybe Calvin Thibedeux who was the leading sack artist in the BIg 12 at the position? Maybe with two or three more injuries he would have started but not over any of the four who started last season. That's for damn sure. Oklahoma only had the #3 rushing defense in the country last year as compared to texass at #33 but hey they are obviously superior.

Texas also has Aaron Lewis who redshirted last year but has been tearing up our oline this spring.

If that doesn't do it for you how about the top rated DE in the country in Eddie Jones and the #4 rated DE in Lamar Houston coming in.[/quote]

Not many players at DE were willing to come into Oklahoma and sit for three years waiting for a chance to play.

The best part about this whole argument is that I know that our dline is not only better but when we face they will be going against an oline that none of which would start at Texas. While your dline will be facing the best oline in the country.

Not hard for Oline to think their good with radio back there playing nothing but the Zone read all game. Good luck with concept with McCoy and Snead in the pocket as I think you already discovered in the spring game that ship has sailed.

As for the 2k5 media guide why don't you wait for the 2k6 media guide to see the real numbers.

Do you have difficulty with understanding the word updated get back to me if you ever figure out the definition on that one.

Texas played in the most watched Rose Bowl this century and beat the team considered by everyone to be the greatest of all time, the same team that beat the shit out of blOwU just 12 months before.

First of all they weren't the same team. USC's defense last year was nothing compared to its defense the previous. Texass faced a watered down version of USC that was Offensivly explosive but not nearly as consistant on Defense at it was previously. BTW that team that got rocked by USC was the same team that texass and Radio could onbly manage to cross the 50 on 4 times the entire game.

BTW what day was the Holiday bowl played?

Don't really recall. OUr first visit for it. Maybe you could enlighten us since it seems that TExass has appeared in it more times than any other team.

And if you had such a superior Dline last year why is it that you still lost 4 games? I guess it was the refs.

For the same reason we didn't win the title in 2002. As good as our defense was the offense had no consitancy for much of the season with a first year player at QB and a star RB who was injured for most of the season. And yeah the refs did screw us in one game.

Need I say more.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:09 pm

Harvdog wrote:SCS..I think that we both have great Dlines. The real test will be in the trenches on October 8. That is the nice thing about our schools, we have tons of talent and when the 2nd team is in the game you can hardly tell a difference.

There is a big difference in having a discussion about football with a knowledgeable fan such as yourself, Harv, and a moron such as Vito as well.