Why so much hype about the draft?
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Why so much hype about the draft?
In terms of, the "watchability" of the event? I've seen on various sports shows, people debating what's more exciting, the NFL draft or a major NFL game, or some other game of equal significance. Many of the journalists, including guys like Tony Kornheiser, picked the NFL draft.
I don't see what would be lost from opening the paper, or getting onto the internet the following day, and observing who went where. What, did you miss the "suspension" surrounding the aura of Tagliabue's presence prior to him opening his hole to tell us what wide receiver the Lions selected? Besides, everything, for the most part is pre-determined. Teams generally know who they're taking, unless someone takes their pre-planned pick, then obviously they'll either have to go to their backup selection, or maybe they'll have to do a little improvising, trade talking, etc.
Checking the box score of a game the following day will tell you who won, but it's not nearly the same as watching the game (obviously). You missed all the key plays that gave the teams momentum shifts that the box score just can't relate to you. Plus, the only information you can effectively take from the draft is simply who went where. There are no guarantees that any acquisition will greatly improve any team or not. So, the actual draft day is not nearly as important as the day that will invevitably come for these players to prove why they were deserving of a first round pick.
If you're an NFL junkie, I can understand your desire to watch the draft. Hell, I'll try and catch the first 15 picks or so, and then go on to something else, like watch porn, but to say that it's "more exciting" than an actual sporting event? Ponderous.
Does everyone agree with me? Was this rant totally meaningless?
I don't see what would be lost from opening the paper, or getting onto the internet the following day, and observing who went where. What, did you miss the "suspension" surrounding the aura of Tagliabue's presence prior to him opening his hole to tell us what wide receiver the Lions selected? Besides, everything, for the most part is pre-determined. Teams generally know who they're taking, unless someone takes their pre-planned pick, then obviously they'll either have to go to their backup selection, or maybe they'll have to do a little improvising, trade talking, etc.
Checking the box score of a game the following day will tell you who won, but it's not nearly the same as watching the game (obviously). You missed all the key plays that gave the teams momentum shifts that the box score just can't relate to you. Plus, the only information you can effectively take from the draft is simply who went where. There are no guarantees that any acquisition will greatly improve any team or not. So, the actual draft day is not nearly as important as the day that will invevitably come for these players to prove why they were deserving of a first round pick.
If you're an NFL junkie, I can understand your desire to watch the draft. Hell, I'll try and catch the first 15 picks or so, and then go on to something else, like watch porn, but to say that it's "more exciting" than an actual sporting event? Ponderous.
Does everyone agree with me? Was this rant totally meaningless?
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I'm with you as well. I'll run it as background noise, and try to time paying attention to it when my team makes their first pick, after that who cares.
It's still more interesting than soccer.
It's still more interesting than soccer.
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Re: Why so much hype about the draft?
Of course the journalists like the draft. It's two whole days of free food and drink in NYC. Find me someone who isn't a journalist who agrees with Kornhieser and I'll show you a fucking loser.MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:In terms of, the "watchability" of the event? I've seen on various sports shows, people debating what's more exciting, the NFL draft or a major NFL game, or some other game of equal significance. Many of the journalists, including guys like Tony Kornheiser, picked the NFL draft.
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I generally watch the first two rounds.. after that I just check the net. For me there is a couple things. 1- I live, eat & breathe football. Its the first mark on the calendar and things just speed up from there. 2- I like trying to figure out what is going to happen.. seeing what teams trade up, what teams don't... wathcing the info on the players coming up I may not have known from college ball, etc.
But I don't see how it is more exciting than a game Well- at least a game between real teams. It might be more intresting to watch the draft than a Cardinals/Niners game.
But I don't see how it is more exciting than a game Well- at least a game between real teams. It might be more intresting to watch the draft than a Cardinals/Niners game.
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The draft is a very boring thing to watch but it's an interesting event to talk about. On Saturday afternoon, I'm fairly certain Game 5 of Wings-Oilers will be on NBC so I'm going to have to find out later what happened in the first day of the draft. I worry more about what the Lions do than who goes #1 or where a contraversial prospect ends up. It's a gigantic hype machine and you don't know how good these guys are until they play a real game.
I think the biggest problem with the NFL draft is that fact there is so much time between the end of the football season (college and pro) and the draft itself. There's so much time to over-analyze everything about every player. A rumor circulates and all of a sudden a player becomes a bum. Vince Young was the hottest name in college football when the season ended but then the Wonderlic test thing happened and then everyone started to disect his throwing motion and now, he's a risky pick.
They should have the draft in March before free agency starts. I know they do that in the NHL and I believe in the NBA as well. The baseball draft is held during the season. I think NFL draft was getting too much coverage early on...they shouldn't be talking about it until a week or two beforehand. America has become a football-crazed nation but there's a limit to my passion for football. I cool it in the offseason...that's was hockey, March Madness, baseball, and the majors in golf are for. You can't sit around for 12 months and talk about football...you need a break. I'll check out some of the draft but wake me in July when camp starts.
I think the biggest problem with the NFL draft is that fact there is so much time between the end of the football season (college and pro) and the draft itself. There's so much time to over-analyze everything about every player. A rumor circulates and all of a sudden a player becomes a bum. Vince Young was the hottest name in college football when the season ended but then the Wonderlic test thing happened and then everyone started to disect his throwing motion and now, he's a risky pick.
They should have the draft in March before free agency starts. I know they do that in the NHL and I believe in the NBA as well. The baseball draft is held during the season. I think NFL draft was getting too much coverage early on...they shouldn't be talking about it until a week or two beforehand. America has become a football-crazed nation but there's a limit to my passion for football. I cool it in the offseason...that's was hockey, March Madness, baseball, and the majors in golf are for. You can't sit around for 12 months and talk about football...you need a break. I'll check out some of the draft but wake me in July when camp starts.
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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the spread at the NFL draft is just a "bit" better than the spread at a MAC tennis match.MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Beat writers for MAC tennis teams get free food at events and media functions, so you'll have to come with something better than that.
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Re: Why so much hype about the draft?
The draft isn't overrated because it's the first taste of football the diehards have since the Super Bowl. Any news football related is great. But the draft is like a screaming orgasm. Not only is it news, but it's news of 5+ players are being added to your roster, players you didn't have when your team sucked last year. So every fan across the country perceives draft day as a ray of hope for the future. It isn't until they find out their picks suck on the field that this euphoria dies, but when you think about it, that's a LONG time. The draft just brings excitement for all fans about their future, some of it unjustified, but excitement nonetheless.MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:In terms of, the "watchability" of the event? I've seen on various sports shows, people debating what's more exciting, the NFL draft or a major NFL game, or some other game of equal significance. Many of the journalists, including guys like Tony Kornheiser, picked the NFL draft.
I don't see what would be lost from opening the paper, or getting onto the internet the following day, and observing who went where. What, did you miss the "suspension" surrounding the aura of Tagliabue's presence prior to him opening his hole to tell us what wide receiver the Lions selected? Besides, everything, for the most part is pre-determined. Teams generally know who they're taking, unless someone takes their pre-planned pick, then obviously they'll either have to go to their backup selection, or maybe they'll have to do a little improvising, trade talking, etc.
Checking the box score of a game the following day will tell you who won, but it's not nearly the same as watching the game (obviously). You missed all the key plays that gave the teams momentum shifts that the box score just can't relate to you. Plus, the only information you can effectively take from the draft is simply who went where. There are no guarantees that any acquisition will greatly improve any team or not. So, the actual draft day is not nearly as important as the day that will invevitably come for these players to prove why they were deserving of a first round pick.
If you're an NFL junkie, I can understand your desire to watch the draft. Hell, I'll try and catch the first 15 picks or so, and then go on to something else, like watch porn, but to say that it's "more exciting" than an actual sporting event? Ponderous.
Does everyone agree with me? Was this rant totally meaningless?
Besides, there's always the suspense factor and a few surprises.
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Long time coming, WMN, but rack that.
Well said.
There's also the way cool stuff that Aaron sends to the winner of the draft guru contest. Speaking as a two time champ, trust me, it's waaay too fucking cool for a Mulefan like yourself to have. Actually, there ain't a despicable Donk slobber on the planet worthy of any booty whatsoever, but that's another topic.
You have permission to give it your best shot, though.
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Well said.
There's also the way cool stuff that Aaron sends to the winner of the draft guru contest. Speaking as a two time champ, trust me, it's waaay too fucking cool for a Mulefan like yourself to have. Actually, there ain't a despicable Donk slobber on the planet worthy of any booty whatsoever, but that's another topic.
You have permission to give it your best shot, though.
Should be good for a few laughs.
Re: Why so much hype about the draft?
Given he's a loud-mouthed moron who'd rather hear himself talk than have any knowledge or insight about anything, no real surprise he'd pick the draft over an actual game.MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:guys like Tony Kornheiser, picked the NFL draft.
I'll usually have it on as background as well, unless the Spurs are in a playoff game.
I wish SNL would do a parody of some of the ESPN commercials for the draft though ... you know the ones where they tout "so-and-so, in 2001 played for Division II team blank and was drafted late in the second round. After being traded to team X, he led the NFL in receptions in 2005." And then they run that stupid tagline "The draft matters, Go Deep! Watch the NFL draft on ESPN" or whatever it is. SNL could have a field day -- so to speak -- with highly-touted players in the draft who ended up sucking ass to being non-factors, at best. Just as many of those guys as there are "guys who come out of nowhere."
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Re: Why so much hype about the draft?
If by field day you mean "suck all the funny out. Produce boring tripe, and pale in comparisson to the real draft commercials, then yeah. They could have a field day.RadioFan wrote:
I wish SNL would do a parody of some of the ESPN commercials for the draft though ... SNL could have a field day -- so to speak --
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Oh really??BSmack wrote:I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the spread at the NFL draft is just a "bit" better than the spread at a MAC tennis match.MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Beat writers for MAC tennis teams get free food at events and media functions, so you'll have to come with something better than that.
It's called "making a point", douche. Thing is, large spreads are just flat out something these sports media types are not unaccustomed to, at ANY event. It's just one of the perks. It's a nice luxury, but old hat, nonetheless. So, I seriously doubt that has anything to do with their readiness to argue on behalf of the "watchability" of the event.
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You did a poor job of it.MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:It's called "making a point", douche.
Keep spinning. I'm sure that knoshing at the NFL spread in Madison Square Garden with Chris Berman and Michael Irvin is JUST like covering a MAC tennis tournament.Thing is, large spreads are just flat out something these sports media types are not unaccustomed to, at ANY event. It's just one of the perks. It's a nice luxury, but old hat, nonetheless. So, I seriously doubt that has anything to do with their readiness to argue on behalf of the "watchability" of the event.
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Ok, since sarcasm isn't your thing, I'll use rationale to break it down for you. I referenced, with tongue firmly planted into cheek, that even the lower tier beat writers receive free grub at all kinds of events. Since even they do, you can certainly imagine what kind of spreads big shots like Kornheiser are QUITE used to by now. It's expected. It's a given. They're not showing up at events and later applauding them because of the "huge spreads".BSmack wrote:You did a poor job of it.MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:It's called "making a point", douche.
Keep spinning. I'm sure that knoshing at the NFL spread in Madison Square Garden with Chris Berman and Michael Irvin is JUST like covering a MAC tennis tournament.Thing is, large spreads are just flat out something these sports media types are not unaccustomed to, at ANY event. It's just one of the perks. It's a nice luxury, but old hat, nonetheless. So, I seriously doubt that has anything to do with their readiness to argue on behalf of the "watchability" of the event.
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Ah, so now you were just joking.MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Ok, since sarcasm isn't your thing, I'll use rationale to break it down for you. I referenced, with tongue firmly planted into cheek, that even the lower tier beat writers receive free grub at all kinds of events.
Whatever you say Pee Wee.
Oh, and I see UCantevenscoreadraftcontest is still trolling about.
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How convienent that now it was all sarcasm.MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Of course it was sarcasm, you fucking tool. How could a "MAC tennis writers" reference be used in any other way? But what you continue to miss out on, is that the sarcasm was intentional in order to make a point. Jaysus, I never remember you being this slow on the mental drawl.
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Convenient?BSmack wrote:How convienent that now it was all sarcasm.MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Of course it was sarcasm, you fucking tool. How could a "MAC tennis writers" reference be used in any other way? But what you continue to miss out on, is that the sarcasm was intentional in order to make a point. Jaysus, I never remember you being this slow on the mental drawl.
How the fuck did you not see the sarcasm in that? Do you honestly believe I have impirical evidence to support a reference based on "MAC tennis writers"? God, you're dumb. It was clearly a sarcastic remark intended to make a point on a greater level. Let me clue you in on something - that isn't a concept I just invented 15 minutes ago. Look around this board, you'll see it's pretty widespread.
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Good God you're getting awful worked up. Take a fucking Mydol and chill out.MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Convenient?
How the fuck did you not see the sarcasm in that? Do you honestly believe I have impirical evidence to support a reference based on "MAC tennis writers"? God, you're dumb. It was clearly a sarcastic remark intended to make a point on a greater level. Let me clue you in on something - that isn't a concept I just invented 15 minutes ago. Look around this board, you'll see it's pretty widespread.
Maybe while you're at it, you might begin to see where you tripped yourself up.
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Actually, you're the one who tripped herself up. You can't decide whether or not your argument is based solely on the "spread"... or does it also include the fact that the event takes place in NYC... and/or that it takes place at Madison Square Garden... and/or its attendees may also include Chris Berman and/or Michael Irvin... not to mention the reader of your posts may or may not also infer the nightlife/tourism/etc one is exposed to for those two days. MGO has stuck to his guns the whole time = the food is not the attraction. This line killed me:BSmack wrote:Maybe while you're at it, you might begin to see where you tripped yourself up.
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I stand by what I said. Namely, "It's two whole days of free food and drink in NYC." You can infer all the rest. That is, if you have an IQ higher than a fucking houseplant.UCant#2 wrote:Actually, you're the one who tripped herself up. You can't decide whether or not your argument is based solely on the "spread"... or does it also include the fact that the event takes place in NYC... and/or that it takes place at Madison Square Garden... and/or its attendees may also include Chris Berman and/or Michael Irvin... not to mention the reader of your posts may or may not also infer the nightlife/tourism/etc one is exposed to for those two days.
Don't you have a contest to not be scoring?
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You mean like the bitch who thinks his sarcasm is self evident?UCant#2 wrote:Wrong. Debating is all about having the ability to hammer home your point.BSmack wrote:You can infer all the rest.
You are dismissed.
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Which part of it was an unsolvable complication for you?BSmack wrote:You mean like the bitch who thinks his sarcasm is self evident?UCant#2 wrote:Wrong. Debating is all about having the ability to hammer home your point.BSmack wrote:You can infer all the rest.
Don't assume because you didn't understand, that others share in your idiocy.
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What you don't understand is that I was replying to UCanrunapickscontest, who postulated that if you are looking for people to catch the implied meaning of your posts, then you suck.MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Which part of it was an unsolvable complication for you?BSmack wrote:You mean like the bitch who thinks his sarcasm is self evident?UCant#2 wrote: Wrong. Debating is all about having the ability to hammer home your point.
Don't assume because you didn't understand, that others share in your idiocy.
Is the irony of that sinking in yet?
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BSmack wrote:What you don't understand is that I was replying to UCanrunapickscontest, who postulated that if you are looking for people to catch the implied meaning of your posts, then you suck.
Is the irony of that sinking in yet?
To some of us, it is. There's a marked difference between doing something on purpose (sarcasm) and not being able to translate the trainwreck going on inside your head into a cogent take on a message board.
Besides, you're losing sight of the crux of the issue. MGO has held fast in his belief that appeal of the NFL draft has nothing to do with the "spread". You've yet to make your point.
**Yawn** Nudge me if/when you do.
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Sorry, but I don't feel like dumbing down my take for you. I guess you'll have to do what you do best, not post.UCant#2 wrote:To some of us, it is. There's a marked difference between doing something on purpose (sarcasm) and not being able to translate the trainwreck going on inside your head into a cogent take on a message board.
Besides, you're losing sight of the crux of the issue. MGO has held fast in his belief that appeal of the NFL draft has nothing to do with the "spread". You've yet to make your point.
**Yawn** Nudge me if/when you do.
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Actually, you couldn't "dumb down" your posts any further than what comes naturally. Color me shocked the day you're capable of "smartening them up".BSmack wrote:Sorry, but I don't feel like dumbing down my take for you.
Wow. Is there an insult in there somewhere? "Oh no... Ucant didn't post today. That is so... terrible!"BSmack wrote:I guess you'll have to do what you do best, not post.
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Having trouble with sarcasm?UCant#2 wrote:Wow. Is there an insult in there somewhere?BSmack wrote:I guess you'll have to do what you do best, not post.
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Sadly, that is the apex of your post.Raydah James wrote:gameless asshuffing cockgoblin.
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I'll watch draft coverage some years because I almost never watch a single down of CFB. It can be informative for me because the player profile segment they run between picks is the first time I learn anything about said player. Of course there are those top prospects like this year's Leinert and Bush who you can't help hearing about in the media even if you ignore CFB. But I can see where CFB fans would probably tune out the portion between picks since they know already who's who.
And WhatsAHorseWithNoName brings up good points too. Rack him. He's establishing himself as a solid jungle guy in this forum, n00bie or not. And hey, he must be doing something right to get a positive review from a Chieffan and resident Most Severe Critc, War Wagon.
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The draft isn't overrated because it's the first taste of football the diehards have since the Super Bowl. Any news football related is great. But the draft is like a screaming orgasm. Not only is it news, but it's news of 5+ players are being added to your roster, players you didn't have when your team sucked last year. So every fan across the country perceives draft day as a ray of hope for the future. It isn't until they find out their picks suck on the field that this euphoria dies, but when you think about it, that's a LONG time. The draft just brings excitement for all fans about their future, some of it unjustified, but excitement nonetheless.
Besides, there's always the suspense factor and a few surprises.
Rack that!
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The draft isn't overrated because it's the first taste of football the diehards have since the Super Bowl. Any news football related is great. But the draft is like a screaming orgasm. Not only is it news, but it's news of 5+ players are being added to your roster, players you didn't have when your team sucked last year. So every fan across the country perceives draft day as a ray of hope for the future. It isn't until they find out their picks suck on the field that this euphoria dies, but when you think about it, that's a LONG time. The draft just brings excitement for all fans about their future, some of it unjustified, but excitement nonetheless.
Besides, there's always the suspense factor and a few surprises.
Rack that!
[font=Andalus]It’s Jet fan screaming
Your teams redeeming
It’s Kiper seeming
War room scheming
It’s Mario (26.5 M guaranteed - holy shit!) dreaming
It’s the family and friends of the newbie’s beaming
Posing with Tags while the flashes are gleaming
It the start of the season streaming
Vicariously enjoying one day of teaming[/font]