Texans reach contract agreement with Mario Williams.....

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:28 am

Fucking tards.

Bush will be a fucking Raider before it is all said and done.

Texans trip on thier Vaglips-Again.

RACK each and every one of your top 3 picks in the "Draft Guru" thread.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:45 am

Raydah James wrote:RACK each and every one of your top 3 picks in the "Draft Guru" thread.

BBMarley wrote:1 Houston - Mario Williams DE
2 NY Jets (From NO)- Reggie Bush RB
3 Tennessee - Matt Leinart QB
4 New Orleans (From Jets) D'Brickashaw Ferguson T
5 Green Bay - AJ Hawk LB

All except #3 make sense.

The Williams signing is all about the $$$$$

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:57 am

Well, I suspect all of us will be changing our mock drafts.

Dumbass · Post by **Dumbass** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:59 am

YES YES YES FUCKING YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

M2 · Post by M2 » Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:04 am

The Meltdown in Houston is underway!

m2

BBMarley · Post by **BBMarley** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:42 am

Raydah James wrote:
RACK each and every one of your top 3 picks in the "Draft Guru" thread.

Fuck you man... I've been saying Williams' for weeks now. :D

I can see Oakland trying to move up.. but the Jets desperatly need a RB since Martin is getting old and fragile

Hapday · Post by **Hapday** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:55 am

Some honest questions here: Is this a bad move? IMO (could be wrong) Davis is not a bad RB running behind the WORST offensive line in the NFL. Would Bush make that much of a difference? I don't follow college football all that much, will Williams be a bust?

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:59 am

Williams looked amazing at NC State. Freakishly talented, like a Kearse.

BBMarley · Post by **BBMarley** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:05 am

Hapday wrote:Some honest questions here: Is this a bad move? IMO (could be wrong) Davis is not a bad RB running behind the WORST offensive line in the NFL. Would Bush make that much of a difference? I don't follow college football all that much, will Williams be a bust?

I think its the perfect move. DD is a 1200 yard rusher.. no reason to draft Bush when you have no pass rush and have to face Manning twice a year, now Leinart twice a year.... They picked up the best Def End in the draft and helped themselves significantly.

Edit- nevermind.. Tennesse is going to fuck up and take Young instead. Morons

Dumbass · Post by **Dumbass** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:05 am

After losing Julius Peppers (#2) to The Carolina Panthers...yea, I can understand this one.

PrimeX · Post by **PrimeX** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:06 pm

Well, that's it. I'm ready to riot. I've already staked out the big screen I'm gonna loot at the local Best Buy and I plan on turning over my neighbors car.

This is going to send Houston into a frenzy. :x

This franchise is run by a bunch of simple minded monkeys. Second coming of the Oilers much?

Rack Fu · Post by **Rack Fu** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:15 pm

I don't see anything wrong with this selection.

Sincerely,
1984 Portland Trailblazers
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I'm not a Texans fan per se but I'd like to see the hometown team do well.

You pick the best available player, which is Reggie Bush. It appears to be a financial decision only. As Richard Justice wrote in his column this morning - it's funny considering that the Texans have overpaid for a bunch of players that amounted to nothing but are being miserly with Bush.

If, by bypassing Bush, they're looking to fill the biggest void - why not D'Brickashaw Ferguson? Their biggest need is on the O-line.

Nothing against Williams. Some say he's a better version of Julius Peppers. Just doesn't bring the excitement that Bush does.

I just have this feeling that they'll regret this pick.

WhatsMyName · Post by **WhatsMyName** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:29 pm

Anyone who tells you this wasn't about money is lying.

Red · Post by **Red** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:38 pm

Christ.

PrimeX · Post by **PrimeX** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:45 pm

Worst fucking GM ever. He'd better accept the neat little NFL suit job soon, as Texan fans are past ready to lynch this douche. He already bent us over with the "genius" Babin draft day trade and Buchanon disaster, and lets not forget all of the now bench players this simp has thrown millions at.

Some nut job has already linked a picture of his home and address on another forum, along with his cell and home #. While I sure as hell wouldn't condone such actions, this goes to show you how pissed off some Texan fans are. Our hometown team is the joke of the league and there's not a thing we can do about it.

I'm literally sick to my stomach this morning.

Fuck you McNair. Fuck you Casserly. Fuck you throw up in my mouth.

WhatsMyName · Post by **WhatsMyName** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:50 pm

Perfect avatar for the situation. I imagine this is what Texan fans did upon reading the news on ESPN.com they selected Mario instead of Bush.

PrimeX · Post by **PrimeX** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:55 pm

WhatsMyName wrote:

Perfect avatar for the situation. I imagine this is what Texan fans did upon reading the news on ESPN.com they selected Mario instead of Bush.

Pretty much. I had to wake up at 4am for work today and this was the glorious news I was presented with.

And to think I've been looking forward to this day since the end of our wonderful 2-14 season.

trev · Post by **trev** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:21 pm

Reggie Bush looks like he's at a funeral today.

BBMarley · Post by **BBMarley** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:22 pm

trev wrote:Reggie Bush looks like he's at a funeral today.

He just lost a couple millon dollars by not going 1...

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:45 pm

mvscal wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
Raydah James wrote:RACK each and every one of your top 3 picks in the "Draft Guru" thread.

BBMarley wrote:1 Houston - Mario Williams DE
2 NY Jets (From NO)- Reggie Bush RB
3 Tennessee - Matt Leinart QB
4 New Orleans (From Jets) D'Brickashaw Ferguson T
5 Green Bay - AJ Hawk LB
All except #3 make sense.

The SC connection is too much for anyone with more than three functioning brain cells to ignore. Naturally that would leave mental ameoba such as yourself flagellating about in mindless confusion.

One of us is certainly a mental ameoba.

Too bad the Titans aren't as fucking stupid as you.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:06 am

No two ways about it, the Texans pissed down their leg.

I am genius

Red · Post by **Red** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:45 pm

I'm probably a fucking iodot, but I think Houston is having a very good draft. RB was not their weak point last season... D-line and O-line were. They got the best defensive player in the draft, picked up a very good LB, two SOLID offensive linemen and just added a good backup RB in Wali Lundy.

Rack Fu · Post by **Rack Fu** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:01 pm

I think they addressed issues. There's no question that they made the team better. They just didn't make the team exciting enough so that I look forward to watching them play. That seems to be the point of contention here is Houston.

I could watch Bush run around the field all day long. I could give a flip about Mario Williams.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:17 pm

Rack Fu wrote:I could give a flip about Mario Williams.

I'll remember you said that.........

Rack Fu · Post by **Rack Fu** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:33 pm

Felix wrote:
Rack Fu wrote:I could give a flip about Mario Williams.
I'll remember you said that.........

You're misunderstanding my statement...

1. I'm not a Texans fan.
2. It's no diss on Williams. Dude is a freakin' stud player. Just doesn't get me all excited like Reggie Bush.

As I said, Bush would've made me watch the Texans. Williams doesn't change my indifference towards the team.

Rack Fu · Post by **Rack Fu** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:54 pm

A day later Texans' decision still puzzling
By Gene Wojciechowski
ESPN.com

NEW YORK -- Emily Burguieres, whose old man is the vice-chairman of the Houston Texans, printed the name on the specially designed 4x5 NFL Draft card and handed it to a league go-fer.

For appearances sake the name was officially registered, confirmed and relayed to commissioner Paul Tagliabue, who emerged from stage right of Radio City Music Hall, stepped behind the imposing cherry wood podium, and announced that the Texans had chosen North Carolina State's Mario Williams as the No. 1 overall pick.

Mario Williams heard plenty of boos from the fans at the draft.Boos (think Donovan McNabb/circa 1999) rained down from the balcony seating, courtesy of Replica Jersey Nation, as well as the usual collection of J-E-T-S fans, some of whom had actually taken their medication. From East Coast to West Coast, Sun Belt to Rust Belt, the general reaction to Williams's selection was the same:

The Texans did WHAT?

Even now the decision boggles the mind. Houston could have chosen USC tailback Reggie Bush, but instead got sloppy drunk on "measureables" and potential rather than actual production. Hel-lo, did you see how many contrails and broken ankles Bush left behind this season?

OK, so the Bush family won't win any Tenant of the Year awards. And, yeah, USC might have to take it in the NCAA shorts because of Rentalgate. But from a pure football standpoint, Bush was the best college player on the draft board. Forget the board; he was the best college player on the face of the Earth.

It isn't just me, or Mel Kiper Jr., or the We-Find-Evil-In-Every-Living-Thing Jets fans who think so. According to a poll conducted by respected NFL writer Rick Gosselin of the Dallas Morning News, 21 of 26 league general managers rated Bush as the top choice. That's called a landslide.

Even the other Texans rep at the draft day table isn't sure Houston made the smart move.

"I would have taken Bush or I would have tried to trade down and got more players,'' said Jay Mooney, a fourth-grade teacher in Maryland who first met Texans GM Charley Casserly as an intern with the Washington Redskins.

Of course, this might be the Mooney final appearance at the draft day table after the Texans read this. If so -- and that would be greasy on the Texans' part -- he might want to scarf up those NFL-supplied goodies on the table (a jar of team-colored M&Ms, Houston-logo coffee cups, a transistor radio, and an offical draft day clipboard). He can send a few of the goodies to his buddy Casserly, who might be making his final Texans draft appearance too.

There aren't many perks when you go 2-14, but choosing first is one of them. In fact, it's the only one. But the Texans are the Texans because they keep shanking the gimmes. Picking the 2005 Heisman Trophy winner was a gimme, a football tap-in. All they had to do was tell Burguieres to jot down one of the most familiar four letters in the state of Texas: B-U-S-H.

The Texans put a smiley face on the Williams pick. What else could they do? From the moment word leaked late Friday night of the decision, Houston team officials had the spin control on its highest setting: We're switching to a 4-3 defense, so we needed a defensive end ... Williams was co-No. 1 on our board ... Williams could be, said owner Bob McNair Saturday, "another Reggie White."

Yes, he could. Or he could be Vanna White. That's the problem with the draft; you never know for sure.

But Bush was the closest to a sure thing. He was a star from the start of his USC career to the finish. Williams was a star from, oh, half of the 2005 season through the NFL Combine.

"I'm speechless,'' said Williams. "It's hard to explain."

No, it isn't. The Texans gagged. They over-analyzed themselves out of the most breathtaking talent anybody has seen in years ... decades? They confused possibilities with probabilities. They will regret this for losses to come.

"I'm not going to take anything personal from the Houston Texans and go out and try to run for 5,000 yards or whatever in a game,'' said Bush, who finds himself in the middle of the rare disaster trifecta: house rental controversy/extortion allegations/Pac-10 investigation. "That's the way it is. That's the nature of the beast and it's part of the game.''

Bush was drafted No. 2 by the New Orleans Saints. If ever a city deserved a break, New Orleans did. It's as if the Texans had the winning Powerball ticket and then decided, what the hell, let's give it to the Saints. They seem like nice people.

Maybe this will all work out. Maybe Williams will become Reggie White Jr. For Mooney and Casserly's sake, let's hope so. But Bush has a chance, a realistic one, to become the standard for future running backs, not the reincarnation of old ones. He won't have to settle for the being the "next'' somebody; that's how singular his talents are.

In a weird way (as much as you can for a guy who just signed a $54-million contract), I feel bad for Williams. He didn't deserve the boos, or the cruel chants of, "Over-rated'' from the Radio Music City Hall crazies. He didn't deserve the, "Why you?'' questions.

But he got all of that and more because the Texans selected him No. 1 overall.

The truth is, he didn't deserve that, either.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:29 pm

Red wrote:I'm probably a fucking iodot, but I think Houston is having a very good draft......They got the best defensive player in the draft

They could have traded DOWN and still landed M. Williams.

Rack Fu · Post by **Rack Fu** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:11 pm

rozy · Post by **rozy** » Mon May 01, 2006 1:19 am

poptart wrote:
Red wrote:I'm probably a fucking iodot, but I think Houston is having a very good draft......They got the best defensive player in the draft
They could have traded DOWN and still landed M. Williams.

Or...we could have drafted Gale Marshall Sanders.

Red · Post by **Red** » Mon May 01, 2006 3:18 am

poptart wrote:
Red wrote:I'm probably a fucking iodot, but I think Houston is having a very good draft......They got the best defensive player in the draft
They could have traded DOWN and still landed M. Williams.

I don't think so. Williams probably would have gone to NO at #2 and definitely wouldn't have made it past the J-E-S-T at #4. How much do you think NO, TEN and NYJ were chomping at the bit to trade up? Tennessee was clearly going QB and NYJ would have been happy with whomever the 'Aints didn't take.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Mon May 01, 2006 4:05 am

How much do you think NO, TEN and NYJ were chomping at the bit to trade up?

To get a freak like Reggie Bush? I'd say plenty.

They could have traded picks with N.O. straight up, and save a few million by not having to pay #1 pick money.

But maybe they didn't want to jack with it, or maybe the 'Aint's just wouldn't play along.

Still, passing on Bush is a real head scratcher. That dude has "can't miss" written all over him, despite the recent allegations regarding his parents living arrangements.

PrimeX · Post by **PrimeX** » Mon May 01, 2006 1:54 pm

Cass swears to all who will listen that they actively tried to trade the pick without any success. He "allegedly" called the Jets more than 5 times and couldn't even get past the hello stage without them saying "Thanks, but no thanks" -dial tone-.

Red · Post by **Red** » Mon May 01, 2006 1:56 pm

War Wagon wrote:
How much do you think NO, TEN and NYJ were chomping at the bit to trade up?
To get a freak like Reggie Bush? I'd say plenty.

They could have traded picks with N.O. straight up, and save a few million by not having to pay #1 pick money.

But maybe they didn't want to jack with it, or maybe the 'Aint's just wouldn't play along.

Still, passing on Bush is a real head scratcher. That dude has "can't miss" written all over him, despite the recent allegations regarding his parents living arrangements.

If you're NO at #2 and HOU approaches you with an offer to swap, don't you think you'd have a good inclination that HOU is shying away from taking Bush? What incentive would you have to swap picks if you think he'd be there anyway?

I just don't think the offers were there.

Williams helps fill a glaring void. The offense has some pretty good, young skill position players between Domanick Davis, Andre Johnson and Eric Moulds. That's not a hole that needed filling.

Terry in Crapchester · Mon May 01, 2006 3:22 pm

War Wagon wrote:Still, passing on Bush is a real head scratcher. That dude has "can't miss" written all over him, despite the recent allegations regarding his parents living arrangements.

I gotta say, I don't really get this. I think Bush has some potential problems ahead of him translating to the pro game. He's a bit undersized for a NFL RB, and he's not your prototypical NFL WR, either.

He was an electrifying player in college, to be sure, but then again, so was Rocket Ismail. And he most certainly didn't have a stellar pro career.

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Mon May 01, 2006 3:33 pm

Terry in Crapchester wrote:
War Wagon wrote:Still, passing on Bush is a real head scratcher. That dude has "can't miss" written all over him, despite the recent allegations regarding his parents living arrangements.
I gotta say, I don't really get this. I think Bush has some potential problems ahead of him translating to the pro game. He's a bit undersized for a NFL RB, and he's not your prototypical NFL WR, either.

He was an electrifying player in college, to be sure, but then again, so was Rocket Ismail. And he most certainly didn't have a stellar pro career.

Bush isnt that small. He is in phenomenal shape. He will gain another 5-10 pounds and be the exact same size as Marshall Faulk and Clinton Portis. Emmit Smith wasnt a huge back either.

The Rocket was a lot smaller than Bush we're talking 5'9" 180 while Bush is 5'11 205.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Mon May 01, 2006 4:03 pm

Picking Bush is partly a job-security thing, I believe. It's a safe pick. If he doesn't pan out, the front office guys can say, "Well, he was SUPPOSED to be great".

T1B

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