An Historic Time for Conservatives

Uncle Fester · Post by **Uncle Fester** » Fri May 19, 2006 3:09 pm

They've just discovered that for all their yapping about ideologies, principles, ideals, etc., their president and leaders in Washington are selling this country down the fukking river in the name of "immigration reform."

That's gotta hurt.

My sincerest condolences (no joke).

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri May 19, 2006 3:15 pm

Truly hilarious stuff Fester. Of course anyone with a bit of foresight saw this one comming from a mile away. To paraphrase what my middle school gym teacher used to say, the rich just keep getting richer.

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Fri May 19, 2006 4:17 pm

the rich just keep getting richer

of course we would all be better off if
the rich got poorer---
I think that happened back in the 1930's
and it was called the Great Depression !!

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Fri May 19, 2006 4:24 pm

Wolfman wrote:of course we would all be better off if
the rich got poorer---
I think that happened back in the 1930's
and it was called the Great Depression !!

you
really
aren't
very
smart!!

I think that also happened in the 90's...it was called "the most prosperous period in American History, witness to unprecedented economic growth."

you
are
a
fucking
retard.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Fri May 19, 2006 4:32 pm

I hardly think the most conservatives would consider President Bush conservative.

While I did vote for him, he has really stepped in shit big time. Immigration reform ??? Fuck no....

All a true conservative can hope for is that the whole fucking economy does not collapse in the next 5 years.

It is time to leave Iraq, and concentrate on the home issues and deal with homeland security on a smaller scale.

To paraphrase what my middle school gym teacher

How fresh.... a quote from a pussy eating bull dyke butch is remembered years later.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Fri May 19, 2006 4:38 pm

mvscal wrote:Are
you
trying to say
that the
rich got
poorer in the
90's
?

no.
it
was
an
optical
illusion
that
made
you
come
away
with
that
idea.

reading
like
this
gives
one
vertigo.
apparently,
writing
like
this
for
several
years
also
causes
mental
retardation.

OK, the rich didn't exactly "get poorer,
although that kinda appears to be what I wrote. I guess my point was that with the end of the 12 year Bush regime, the move away from Trickle Down sent the US economy through the roof.

Rich people are already rich. Oddly enough, that's why they call them "rich."

Greed is, was, and always will be a stronger emotion than generosity, fairness, or concern for the welfare of others. That's just the way humans work (but you knew that).

So, we don't really need a system where greed by the wealthy is mandated by law...the greed of the rich is self-fuelling, and needs no legislative help.

And this is why I shake my head in pity of the American People these days -- Uhm....which part of "12 years of trickle down almost bankrupt the country" did you stupid fucks not quite understand? Yet, you signed on for not 4, but 8 more years. Throw all of the other issues out -- this alone makes a non-wealthy Bush supporter a complete fucking idiot...by definition.

Have you stupid fucks never heard of a guy named Robin Hood? Do you not know what happenes when the Little Guy gets fucked by the Man hard enough and long enough?

Spinach Genie · Post by **Spinach Genie** » Fri May 19, 2006 5:12 pm

Dinsdale wrote: OK, the rich didn't exactly "get poorer,
although that kinda appears to be what I wrote. I guess my point was that with the end of the 12 year Bush regime, the move away from Trickle Down sent the US economy through the roof.

What sent the economy "through the roof" and shortly crashing back down to reality was the biggest communications boom in history...which Clinton had nothing to do with other than claim credit. The economy was well into a nosedive before he left office. And no, shit for brains, the rich didn't get poorer. In fact, they got richer.

Rich people are already rich. Oddly enough, that's why they call them "rich."

Brilliant.

Greed is, was, and always will be a stronger emotion than generosity, fairness, or concern for the welfare of others. That's just the way humans work (but you knew that).

You might want to take a check at who is putting up the most dollars and resources for charitable causes. Yup, those darned greedy rich folk. They also happen to give people jobs, health insurance, retirement, etc.

So, we don't really need a system where greed by the wealthy is mandated by law...the greed of the rich is self-fuelling, and needs no legislative help.

...and exactly what "legislative help" would you be referring to?

And this is why I shake my head in pity of the American People these days -- Uhm....which part of "12 years of trickle down almost bankrupt the country" did you stupid fucks not quite understand? Yet, you signed on for not 4, but 8 more years. Throw all of the other issues out -- this alone makes a non-wealthy Bush supporter a complete fucking idiot...by definition.

Why? Because small businesses aren't getting taxed into the ground? Because big business isn't getting so many regulations and taxes put on them they take their operations elsewhere? Because middle class people are not expected to pay for losers?

Have you stupid fucks never heard of a guy named Robin Hood? Do you not know what happenes when the Little Guy gets fucked by the Man hard enough and long enough?

What mvscal said. Thieves and thugs are nothing new.

M2 · Post by M2 » Fri May 19, 2006 5:25 pm

Spinach Genie wrote: What sent the economy "through the roof" and shortly crashing back down to reality was the biggest communications boom in history...which Clinton had nothing to do with other than claim credit. The economy was well into a nosedive before he left office. And no, shit for brains, the rich didn't get poorer. In fact, they got richer.

... and people from the south still wonder why scientists have found them retarded.

JCT · Post by **JCT** » Fri May 19, 2006 5:45 pm

You should quit while you're well behind.

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Fri May 19, 2006 6:18 pm

I laugh at the "economists"
that post here !!
They should write for "the Onion"
or 'Scrappleface" !

btw--
I voted for "W"-- twice--
I knew he was not the 2nd coming of Barry Goldwater
or even Ronald Reagan--
but a hell of a lot better choice than anything that
was avaiable !!

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Fri May 19, 2006 6:19 pm

m2 wrote:
Spinach Genie wrote: What sent the economy "through the roof" and shortly crashing back down to reality was the biggest communications boom in history...which Clinton had nothing to do with other than claim credit. The economy was well into a nosedive before he left office. And no, shit for brains, the rich didn't get poorer. In fact, they got richer.
... and people from the south still wonder why scientists have found them retarded.

I wonder what life is like in your rose colored glasses.

Uncle Fester · Post by **Uncle Fester** » Fri May 19, 2006 6:26 pm

Actually, I was talking about immigration, about Bush and the Republican's new plan to help pack even more people, poverty, and squalor into every unfilled American nook and cranny.

The Democrats sold out years ago, basking in arms-length benevolence and self-serving, self-righteous do-gooderism. They see immigrants as puppies that you pat on the head, give them a treat, and send them on their merry way -- as long as they move into somebody else's neighborhood, anyway.

But the Republicans..., on the other hand, -these are the supposedly "principled" bad-asses who espouse national defense, secure borders, law and order, self-reliance, bla bla bla.

Limbaugh preaches to the average joes every day, telling them they are not stupid, that they are not being had by Bush and the wealthy, that their party has a platform and philosophy that is somehow meaningful and tied in with some kind of American ideal.

So Bush and Rove throw the yokels a bone with a new fence or two and a platoon of bored National Guard teenagers patrolling a dirt patch just outside of Bumfukk Texas and that's supposed to about cover it.

And what we walk away with is a two-party system that really represents nobody, that panders to nothing but cheap sentiment and a quick buck.

Just trying to get it all clear in me head...

Neely8 · Post by **Neely8** » Fri May 19, 2006 7:08 pm

Uncle Fester wrote:Actually, I was talking about immigration, about Bush and the Republican's new plan to help pack even more people, poverty, and squalor into every unfilled American nook and cranny.

The Democrats sold out years ago, basking in arms-length benevolence and self-serving, self-righteous do-gooderism. They see immigrants as puppies that you pat on the head, give them a treat, and send them on their merry way -- as long as they move into somebody else's neighborhood, anyway.

But the Republicans..., on the other hand, -these are the supposedly "principled" bad-asses who espouse national defense, secure borders, law and order, self-reliance, bla bla bla.

Limbaugh preaches to the average joes every day, telling them they are not stupid, that they are not being had by Bush and the wealthy, that their party has a platform and philosophy that is somehow meaningful and tied in with some kind of American ideal.

So Bush and Rove throw the yokels a bone with a new fence or two and a platoon of bored National Guard teenagers patrolling a dirt patch just outside of Bumfukk Texas and that's supposed to about cover it.

And what we walk away with is a two-party system that really represents nobody, that panders to nothing but cheap sentiment and a quick buck.

Just trying to get it all clear in me head...

Rack the hell out of that!!

mothster · Post by **mothster** » Fri May 19, 2006 7:14 pm

and after fester's rant i say god bless america........think how bad it is elsewhere

AJ · Post by AJ » Fri May 19, 2006 7:15 pm

Wolfman wrote:I laugh at the "economists"
that post here !!
They should write for "the Onion"
or 'Scrappleface" !

btw--
I voted for "W"-- twice--
I knew he was not the 2nd coming of Barry Goldwater
or even Ronald Reagan--
but a hell of a lot better choice than anything that
was avaiable !!

Do
you
consider
being
"not Barry Goldwater"
to
be
a
bad
thing?

Uncle Fester · Post by **Uncle Fester** » Fri May 19, 2006 7:34 pm

and after fester's rant i say god bless america........think how bad it is elsewhere

Yeah, I know.

I love America, I guess. I just wish it was consummated.

mothster · Post by **mothster** » Fri May 19, 2006 7:39 pm

Uncle Fester wrote:
and after fester's rant i say god bless america........think how bad it is elsewhere
Yeah, I know.

I love America, I guess. I just wish it was consummated.

just accept the premise that the rich have been, currently are, and always will fuck over the poor and all's well

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Fri May 19, 2006 8:03 pm

Uncle Fester wrote:I love America, I guess. I just wish it was consummated.

Just be patient. Soon enough, you'll be fucked.

Uncle Fester · Post by **Uncle Fester** » Fri May 19, 2006 8:40 pm

Already been. And America never calls!

mothster · Post by **mothster** » Fri May 19, 2006 9:00 pm

oil barons, ceo's, hollywierd supemist's, limousine liberal's, jew bastard's.........it's all good

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Fri May 19, 2006 10:41 pm

I remember the left saying that if I voted
for Goldwater, we'd be up to our necks in
a war in VietNam-I voted for him and it
happened !!

btw---- if you do a little research- you'll find that
Goldwater wanted to reform Social Security so that
it would do for retired people what it was allegedly
intended to do--- and not be a welfare boondoggle
--of course the lefty ads screamed that he wanted to
take money away from retirees (sound familiar ?)
--too bad for you younger folks
that it never happened--and good luck when you
retire !!
coolest presidential election bumper stickers

AuH20 4 64

mothster · Post by **mothster** » Fri May 19, 2006 10:50 pm

Wolfman wrote:I remember the left saying that if I voted
for Goldwater, we'd be up to our necks in
a war in VietNam-I voted for him and it
happened !!

btw---- if you do a little research- you'll find that
Goldwater wanted to reform Social Security so that
it would do for retired people what it was allegedly
intended to do--- and not be a welfare boondoggle
--of course the lefty ads screamed that he wanted to
take money away from retirees (sound familiar ?)
--too bad for you younger folks
that it never happened--and good luck when you
retire !!
coolest presidential election bumper stickers

AuH20 4 64

^^^so says the right wing goose stepping old codger

mothster · Post by **mothster** » Fri May 19, 2006 11:09 pm

“I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.”

fuck off

mothster · Post by **mothster** » Fri May 19, 2006 11:14 pm

“I think every good Christian ought to kick Falwell right in the ass.”

i'll take this old codgers advice every time, well mostly

mothster · Post by **mothster** » Fri May 19, 2006 11:17 pm

“Hubert Humphrey talks so fast that listening to him is like trying to read Playboy magazine with your wife turning the pages.”

rackable

mothster · Post by **mothster** » Fri May 19, 2006 11:19 pm

You don't have to be straight to be in the military; you just have to be able to shoot straight.”

more racks

mothster · Post by **mothster** » Fri May 19, 2006 11:21 pm

mvscal wrote:Yes, he was a small government Libertarian. Right wing goose-stepper he was not.

i was talkin about wolfman mensa

mothster · Post by **mothster** » Fri May 19, 2006 11:23 pm

“Where is the politician who has not promised to fight to the death for lower taxes- and who has not proceeded to vote for the very spending projects that make tax cuts impossible? Barry M”

had enuff?

mothster · Post by **mothster** » Fri May 19, 2006 11:28 pm

“If I had inherited the mess that Johnson got into, I would have said to North Vietnam, by dropping leaflets out of B-52s, 'You quit the war in three days or the next time these babies come over there going to drop some big bombs on you.' And I'd make a swamp out of North Vietnam ... I'd rather kill a hell of a lot of North Vietnamese than one American and we've lost enough of them,”

mothster · Post by **mothster** » Fri May 19, 2006 11:33 pm

what do i care when i've just kicked your ass

JCT · Post by **JCT** » Sat May 20, 2006 12:55 am

mothster wrote:what do i care when i've just kicked your ass

Link?

Y2K · Post by **Y2K** » Sat May 20, 2006 12:56 am

mothster wrote:what do i care when i've just kicked your ass

No you pretty much made yourself look like an idiot again for everyone's amusement hence giving the astute observation "Every board needs it's Tards" another credibility boost.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sat May 20, 2006 2:42 pm

mothster wrote:the next time these babies come over there going to drop some big bombs on you.' And I'd make a swamp out of North Vietnam ...

Wasn't quite as good an idea as it sounded on paper.

Sin,
Richard Nixon

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sat May 20, 2006 3:31 pm

mothster wrote:“And I'd make a swamp out of North Vietnam ...

Mission accomplished.

sin

God

JCT · Post by **JCT** » Sat May 20, 2006 4:43 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
mothster wrote:the next time these babies come over there going to drop some big bombs on you.' And I'd make a swamp out of North Vietnam ...

Wasn't quite as good an idea as it sounded on paper.

Sin,
Richard Nixon

Word.

Lyndon Johnson's Rolling Thunder

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sat May 20, 2006 4:49 pm

JCT wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:
mothster wrote:the next time these babies come over there going to drop some big bombs on you.' And I'd make a swamp out of North Vietnam ...

Wasn't quite as good an idea as it sounded on paper.

Sin,
Richard Nixon
Word.

Lyndon Johnson's Rolling Thunder

So I guess the moral of the story is that Goldwater would have gone straight to the worst possible strategies and handed over control of South Vietnam by 1970 instead of 1975.

In retrospect, that would have been a better outcome.

Luther · Post by **Luther** » Sat May 20, 2006 6:19 pm

Ah, Rolling Thunder. I think it was still going on when we went to Yokota AFB, Japan in '68. Tet offensive time. Old man Luth was SAC, and all I can remember about that is he kept complaining about shitty fucking targets selected by the government. "We are going to lose this thing and more of our kids are gonna die," was what I remember.

My dad was great SAC material for the Air Force. He was a workaholic, and getting challenged all the time just made his day. I remember when Rock Hudson was sashaying around the base, doing his movie, "A Gathering of Eagles." Old Luth was in the underground SAC command post at the time. He'd come home and my mom would gush, "Did you see Rock, did you see him?"

Old Luth: Yeah I saw him.

Mrs. Luth: Oh my word, really? Isn't he gorgeous?

Old Luth: Are you kidding me, I'd bet he wears comfortable shoes.

Mrs. Luth: Oh, Luth...noooooo.

Old Luth: Listen Norma, I know people. This may sound a little weird, but I know people. Rock Hudson is a queer (popular term in the '60s).

Mrs. Luth: Oh hush, shhhhhh Little Luth might hear us.

Old Luth: Bwahahaha. I told Little Luth that Rock wore knee pads to work every day.

Mrs. Luth: YOU DIDN'T, DID YOU? Oh my gawd.

Old Luth: heh heh

Rack my old man. I remember when he retired and the SAC guys had him in for debriefings. A week long debriefing. One whole week. I'm not sure what he did or didn't do, but I remember he'd leave in his flight suit and not come back for a few days or so. "Where'd you go dad?" I'd ask when he came back. "Oh, we just flew around, ya know," would be his answer. Same answer every time.

I still remember at school when I told my buddies that Rock liked the boys. Back then, everything was in the closet. Taking it in the ass wasn't as the "in vogue" thing to do as today.

We've got some "in vogue" lurkers around these here parts too. I could name 'em, but I'd hurt their feelings.

Rip City

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Sun May 21, 2006 1:28 am

Actually Linebacker I and II worked just fine. It was the Quisling Dems in charge of Congress who turned the South back over to Hanoi after they got their pet Republican in the White House.

I guess it was either that or explain their 'unwinnable war' bullshit to the voters.