Packer fan ....

drummer · Post by **drummer** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:16 pm

What are ya hearing up there about this ?

Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay's first-round pick in 2005, has yet to provide a whole lot of encouragement that he could be even an adequate replacement when Favre finally does step aside. In taking the lion's share of offseason snaps, Rodgers isn't making much of an impression with his arm strength, although his delivery has looked a little less awkward than it did during his rookie year. So far, the buzz among Packers players is uncertainty over whether Rodgers has the goods to be the future starter.

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Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:15 pm

Maybe someday, GMs will wisen up, and stop throwing big money at unproven rookie QBsSUP NINERS .

drummer · Post by **drummer** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:43 pm

Rodgers may have cost them $7 million less dollars than Smith , but the problem was that nobody was willing to trade for the #1 pick last draft .

A lot of draft boards wrote that Rodgers was more Pro ready than Smith , but had less upside .

Outside of the signing bonus , a lot of the fat of Smith's contract doesn't kick in until his 3rd or 4th year .

A lot of GB training camp news hasn't been all that positive of Rodgers lately though .

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:27 pm

^^^

So true

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:34 pm

You hurt me so, e.

While the Tedford guy may not look that good on paper, let's give them some due slack...

The ones that come quickly to mind --

Akili Smith

Joey Harrington

AJ Feeley

Aaron Rodgers

Those guys either went to a team with a high-end QB and tioled in anonymity, or they spent all of their early years running from defensive linemen like it was a death race.

Poor Akili never had A CHANCE. Good thing he can scramble so well...otherwise he would never be able to put his grandchildren on his knee and tell them about his short stint in the NFL.

Easy to toss Joey under the bus, since he was the most visible face and highest paid guy on one of the worst teams in recent memory. As much of a Joey fan as I am to this day, they still overpaid his unproven ass.

AJ -- spent his entire cereer to date as "the best backup QB in the NFL." When he did get his chance to start, he played for a team that could rival Detroit for "worst ever." When he served a stint as starter for the Eagles, he amassed a better record with the same team than Donovan McNabb did.

Rogers -- I won't toss dirt in his grave yet, but why they offered him anything but minimal money is beyond me. The ratio of big-name-college-NFL-flops to big-name successes is fairly small, on a regular basis. I don't understand trying to lock up an unproven performer long-term. Seems like a better financial move to try and find the Bradys-in-the-rough...they're always out there.

drummer · Post by **drummer** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:51 pm

No need to toss dirt on David Carr's grave yet either , because he is already buried in turf every Sunday .

Kyle Boller is still a question mark on a team that is still a question mark .

The 49ers signed a Tedford QB this season , but he is in the twilight of his career .

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:53 pm

The Steelers have drafted 3 QBs in the first round since 1970.

Terry Bradshaw
Mark Malone
Ben Roethlisberger

I'd say 2 out of 3 ain't bad.

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:00 pm

Plus, Mark Malone had the best porn Stache next to Magnum PI.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:20 pm

drummer wrote:No need to toss dirt on David Carr's grave yet either , because he is already buried in turf every Sunday .

The Texans are brilliance personafied.

Hmmm....we optioned a guy who has been completely freaking worthless, for WAY too much money. But hey, at least we have the #1 pick, and possibly the best O-Lineman to come along in a decade is out there...let's draft a DE.

Gooooood luck with that. I can see their reasoning though -- picking those "once-in-a-generation" O Linemen didn't work out for the Jags or Rams or anything.

The 49ers signed a Tedford QB this season , but he is in the twilight of his career .

But...he's sporting jewelery. There is that. Guy became a star by doing nothing, except for not making mistakes. Gotta give him his props for playing the position with his brain, since his body wasn't worth much.

WhatsMyName · Post by **WhatsMyName** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:34 am

Tedford insists his quarterbacks aren't unprepared for the NFL, yet nearly every QB he's sent into the pros in recent years has sucked major ass. I would never take a Cal quarterback higher than the 5th.

drummer · Post by **drummer** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:56 am

I would never take a Cal quarterback higher than the 5th.

I'm assuming you mean 5th round .

I think Rodgers was picked @ #17 overall .

Carr was #1 or #2 overall .

Boller was a first round choice .

So was Dilfer .

Akili .

Outside of Dilfer ( who wasn't big time passer with the Ravens ) , picking a Tedford QB in the first round hasn't produced any homeruns yet .

M2 · Post by M2 » Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:38 am

Just a friend of A. Rodgers...

He'll be fine.

WhatsMyName · Post by **WhatsMyName** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:19 am

Yeah, 5th round.

I think these tedford Qb's need to go into the league thinking they aren't that good and they will achieve their maximum potential.

M2 · Post by M2 » Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:53 pm

Dilfer, Smith, Harrington, Boller and Carr were all thrown to the wolves as rookies on teams with little or no offense. With the exception of Boller they were all top 6 picks and teams picking first usually suck for a reason. More to the curse than Tedford. AR will be the true test as he is being given the chance to develop correctly.

The Assassin · Post by **The Assassin** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 12:32 am

Dinsdale wrote:Maybe someday, GMs will wisen up, and stop throwing big money at unproven rookie QBsSUP NINERS .

Whats that mean?

signed,

Aaron Brooks

ElvisMonster · Post by **ElvisMonster** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 12:24 pm

Actually, I've been reading reports that his accuracy has been pretty good on the short to intermediate stuff, but he has a tendency to overthrow the long bal.l Overall, the reports say he has a pretty solid grasp of the offense.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football ... owth_x.htm

"There's a reason he's so confident out there," Jagodzinski said. "He knows all of these plays so well and he knows this offense as well as anyone."

There's some other stuff over at ZBud's and PackerChatters, but outside of the latest article, most of the news coming out of the mini-camp and OTA has been positive. On the other hand, you never really know how much of this stuff is fluff until you see a guy on the field during a game.

I hope Rodgers grows into the position, but who really wants to be the QB that has to follow Favre in Green Bay? If you think us Packer fans are myopic about The Great Brett Favre now, wait until he's been retired a few years. We'll be telling stories about how he healed injured offensive linemen with a touch and ran downfield 90 yards and caught his own touchdown passes after turning Gatorade into beer and bestowing never-empying stadium cups on the faithful.

Uncle Fester · Post by **Uncle Fester** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:50 pm

How many Packer fans does it take to change a lightbulb?

Four, one to change it and the other three to talk about how great the old bulb was.

WhatsMyName · Post by **WhatsMyName** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:40 pm

How many Tedford QB experiments does it take to produce one adequate starter?

Answer: We still don't know.