Best team in college football in the past 75 years?
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it's also incorrect to say OU 2000 "struggled" in "several" games. they did struggle at OSU, but show me any other struggles that weren't against ranked opponents. not to mention Heupel played hurt the last 4 games.
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You struggled to beat Kansas, the aggies, okie lite and KSU.
thats the main reason I didn't really consider the 00 sooners.
And the Aggies were not that good, this was the year after the bonfire and the wheels were already coming off.
thats the main reason I didn't really consider the 00 sooners.
And the Aggies were not that good, this was the year after the bonfire and the wheels were already coming off.
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OU beat KU 34-16
the Aggies were ranked at the time of the game--at Kyle
OSU i mention above
KSU was a top 10 team whose only two losses were to OU. OU beat them in Manhattan (KSU was ranked #2 and OU#8 ), and in KC (OU #1, KSU #8 ). How can upsetting the #2 team in the country on their home field be considered "struggling"? and while all but shutting out FSU and the Heisman Trophy winner and an O avg. over 40 points a game, the Sooners were double digit underdogs in the Orange Bowl.
though, as i also state above: i don't consider OU 2000 on of the all-time greats. 74 OU, most definitely deserves consideration.
the Aggies were ranked at the time of the game--at Kyle
OSU i mention above
KSU was a top 10 team whose only two losses were to OU. OU beat them in Manhattan (KSU was ranked #2 and OU#8 ), and in KC (OU #1, KSU #8 ). How can upsetting the #2 team in the country on their home field be considered "struggling"? and while all but shutting out FSU and the Heisman Trophy winner and an O avg. over 40 points a game, the Sooners were double digit underdogs in the Orange Bowl.
though, as i also state above: i don't consider OU 2000 on of the all-time greats. 74 OU, most definitely deserves consideration.
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We didn't struggle against Kansas. That was the next year that we struggled with Kansas in Lawerence and Hybl was hurt, Heupel was gone by then.Vito Corleone wrote:You struggled to beat Kansas, the aggies, okie lite and KSU.
The Aggies were ranked in both Polls, went to a decent bowl game that year, and the game was at Kyle Field.And the Aggies were not that good, this was the year after the bonfire and the wheels were already coming off.
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71 Nebraska is a bit of a sore point with most Sooners. as many as 3 uncalled clips on the famous Johnny Rogers punt return are often argued by Soonerfan. 1 is blatently obvious.
74 OU's avg. score was 43-9. and the D forced 5.5 turnovers per game. and the Sooner aerial circus threw for a whopping 750 yards (the whole year).
74 OU's avg. score was 43-9. and the D forced 5.5 turnovers per game. and the Sooner aerial circus threw for a whopping 750 yards (the whole year).
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Now I don't know about you, but when a team wins a close game or two you may say they struggled a little bit.Vito Corleone wrote:I don't remember the details of the 02 Buckeyes but I do remember them winning a lot of very close games.
When a team wins seven games by seven points or less in one season, goes undefeated, and beats the defending national champion (which hasn't lost a game in a year and a half) in double-OT, I call that CLUTCH.
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I wish I'd have weighed in earlier on this thread:
- 95 Huskers -- The most badass collection of football domination I've ever seen.
- 87 Canes -- I hate to say it, but if any team should do that whole "challenge a pro team" thing, it's this one. Almost every starter played in the NFL, right? Not to mention the collection of coaches they had that I believe Frozen pointed out.
- 74 / 75 Oklahoma -- Many, many people have said that the only team that could have EVER beaten the 74 Sooners was the 75 Sooners. The dominance of the 74 team should be evident in that they won a National Championship without ever appearing on TV.
- 92 Bama -- A team that I don't feel like gets enough run. They dismantled a good Miami team, and, in addition, were the Baltimore Ravens when the Ravens were still in Cleveland. (Win with ridiculous defense... don't make mistakes on offense.)
Those are just a few more...
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- 95 Huskers -- The most badass collection of football domination I've ever seen.
- 87 Canes -- I hate to say it, but if any team should do that whole "challenge a pro team" thing, it's this one. Almost every starter played in the NFL, right? Not to mention the collection of coaches they had that I believe Frozen pointed out.
- 74 / 75 Oklahoma -- Many, many people have said that the only team that could have EVER beaten the 74 Sooners was the 75 Sooners. The dominance of the 74 team should be evident in that they won a National Championship without ever appearing on TV.
- 92 Bama -- A team that I don't feel like gets enough run. They dismantled a good Miami team, and, in addition, were the Baltimore Ravens when the Ravens were still in Cleveland. (Win with ridiculous defense... don't make mistakes on offense.)
Those are just a few more...
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92 Bama was a team I really really liked but I didn't consider them for this because they were probably one of the best all time defenses but a pretty average offensive team. I felt for a team to make this list they had to have the whole package.
BTW I don't doubt for a second how clutch the 02 buckeyes were. But in this I threw clutch out the door. I wanted Domination.
Every team that goes undefeated has to be clutch, lucky and dominate at times. But the truely great teams are more dominate than lucky or clutch.
BTW I don't doubt for a second how clutch the 02 buckeyes were. But in this I threw clutch out the door. I wanted Domination.
Every team that goes undefeated has to be clutch, lucky and dominate at times. But the truely great teams are more dominate than lucky or clutch.
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That's exactly why I don't count 00 OU for this thing. As good as that defense was, they couldn't hold a candle to the 92 'Bama squad. The reason that I DO justify them is because their D was so good their O didn't HAVE to be. Barker just got it done. Don't turn the ball over... we win. The end. Wanna vote? Can't. Done. I 'spek that kind of ball.
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Congrats, Wags. Good win.
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I have the 02 Buckeyes as the second best Buckeye team, behind the 68 squad. There were many more dominant teams in this period than them.Vito Corleone wrote:92 Bama was a team I really really liked but I didn't consider them for this because they were probably one of the best all time defenses but a pretty average offensive team. I felt for a team to make this list they had to have the whole package.
BTW I don't doubt for a second how clutch the 02 buckeyes were. But in this I threw clutch out the door. I wanted Domination.
Every team that goes undefeated has to be clutch, lucky and dominate at times. But the truely great teams are more dominate than lucky or clutch.
As far as Alabama, I put them on my list at 6 or 7.
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In order for a team to be considered for the "ALL TIME" top ten, they must have a great offense and also a great defense, for me, this eliminates 94 penn st. because their defense was a wussy defense,
this is also why texas was able to beat usc, the trojans defense was a wussy girly defense,
basically, the most "bad ass". DOMINANT team in college football history,
is HANDS DOWN, 95 nebraska,
a sick BIG, strong powerful and fast offense, coupled with a sick , big strong powerful and mean defense, the 95 huskers didnt just beat you,
they HURT you physically, players often begged their coaches to sit them for the nebraska game, they didnt want to be out there anymore,
hell, who would?
and, you can forget all the teams from decades ago, they were too small, and too slow,
basically it comes down to the 95 nebraska program, Dr. Tom blended a wonderful combination of good decent kids, with hard-core felons,
and came up with an "all time" jauggernaut, that was 95 nebraska,
nuff said.
this is also why texas was able to beat usc, the trojans defense was a wussy girly defense,
basically, the most "bad ass". DOMINANT team in college football history,
is HANDS DOWN, 95 nebraska,
a sick BIG, strong powerful and fast offense, coupled with a sick , big strong powerful and mean defense, the 95 huskers didnt just beat you,
they HURT you physically, players often begged their coaches to sit them for the nebraska game, they didnt want to be out there anymore,
hell, who would?
and, you can forget all the teams from decades ago, they were too small, and too slow,
basically it comes down to the 95 nebraska program, Dr. Tom blended a wonderful combination of good decent kids, with hard-core felons,
and came up with an "all time" jauggernaut, that was 95 nebraska,
nuff said.
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yeah but buckeye, you gotta admit, the sympathy votes for 94 penn st. are quite puzzling, considering the fact that they had a soft defense, and, I am of the opinion, that no team deserves to be considered for "all time" status, if they dont have a great defense to go along with a great offense,
its really quite simple,
dont argue for a team, unless they had BOTH a great defense and a great offense, OH, they also must have been undefeated as well,
thats a no-brainer, 1 loss, and your off the freakin list,
I hope this ends the talk about 94 penn st. sure they had a great offense, but their defense was kind of faggish, to say the least,
kinda reminds me of the trojans of this past season, they hide out in the pac ten all year long, so no one realizes that their defense is a fag squad,
that is until vince young runs thru it like a plastic knife thru warm butter,
and half the guys in here were actually thinking that usc was the most dominant program ever?
its really quite simple,
dont argue for a team, unless they had BOTH a great defense and a great offense, OH, they also must have been undefeated as well,
thats a no-brainer, 1 loss, and your off the freakin list,
I hope this ends the talk about 94 penn st. sure they had a great offense, but their defense was kind of faggish, to say the least,
kinda reminds me of the trojans of this past season, they hide out in the pac ten all year long, so no one realizes that their defense is a fag squad,
that is until vince young runs thru it like a plastic knife thru warm butter,
and half the guys in here were actually thinking that usc was the most dominant program ever?
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The omission of "corn fed studs" earns you a B-bradhusker wrote:In order for a team to be considered for the "ALL TIME" top ten, they must have a great offense and also a great defense, for me, this eliminates 94 penn st. because their defense was a wussy defense,
this is also why texas was able to beat usc, the trojans defense was a wussy girly defense,
basically, the most "bad ass". DOMINANT team in college football history,
is HANDS DOWN, 95 nebraska,
a sick BIG, strong powerful and fast offense, coupled with a sick , big strong powerful and mean defense, the 95 huskers didnt just beat you,
they HURT you physically, players often begged their coaches to sit them for the nebraska game, they didnt want to be out there anymore,
hell, who would?
and, you can forget all the teams from decades ago, they were too small, and too slow,
basically it comes down to the 95 nebraska program, Dr. Tom blended a wonderful combination of good decent kids, with hard-core felons,
and came up with an "all time" jauggernaut, that was 95 nebraska,
nuff said.
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once we start owning the big 12, then, you'll hear terms like, "corn fed studs" and "dry fuck", on a regular basis, until then, you'll just have to make due, its too early to start ruffling feathers, isnt it?
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the real funny part about the whole situation is this, before the rose bowl, people, especially those idiots from the west coast, were ALL saying how usc is the "BEST EVER", how if usc met up with 95 nebraska, they would shut down tommie and lawrence and ahmann,
BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA,
that kind of laughter can make a man piss, shit, and cum all at once,
thats how funny the notion of usc shutting down 95 nebraska is,
let me tell you west coast queers something, and listen real good, cause im gonna ask questions later,
vince young ran up and down that field, like he was playing against a bunch of aids-infested sissies, IN FACT, that defense was a bunch of fairies, AND usc would be able to stop a hard-core convicted felon team like 95 nebraska? what drugs are you taking?
I'll make this real simple for the west coast retards in here, usc would be a joke against 1995 nebraska, forget about butcher rapes, or forcible sodomy with blood, if usc met up with 1995 nebraska, they'd be left for DEAD!
dry-fuck? violent sodomy? usc would WISH for such kind outcomes against the ALL TIME JAUGARNNAUT OF 95! it would be a massacre.
not only would nebraska physically run the football all day long, with their mammouth sheer size and blazing speed, BUT, the blackshirts of 95?
lets just say that matt and bush and white would need some smelling salts, they'd wake up in a nice hospital bed, with a pink usc trojan bear, thinking about a business degree, or running a donut shop.
BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA,
that kind of laughter can make a man piss, shit, and cum all at once,
thats how funny the notion of usc shutting down 95 nebraska is,
let me tell you west coast queers something, and listen real good, cause im gonna ask questions later,
vince young ran up and down that field, like he was playing against a bunch of aids-infested sissies, IN FACT, that defense was a bunch of fairies, AND usc would be able to stop a hard-core convicted felon team like 95 nebraska? what drugs are you taking?
I'll make this real simple for the west coast retards in here, usc would be a joke against 1995 nebraska, forget about butcher rapes, or forcible sodomy with blood, if usc met up with 1995 nebraska, they'd be left for DEAD!
dry-fuck? violent sodomy? usc would WISH for such kind outcomes against the ALL TIME JAUGARNNAUT OF 95! it would be a massacre.
not only would nebraska physically run the football all day long, with their mammouth sheer size and blazing speed, BUT, the blackshirts of 95?
lets just say that matt and bush and white would need some smelling salts, they'd wake up in a nice hospital bed, with a pink usc trojan bear, thinking about a business degree, or running a donut shop.
welcome back, brad.not only would nebraska physically run the football all day long, with their mammouth sheer size and blazing speed, BUT,
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forget it Mr. T,
your penis just doesnt measure up to 95 nebraska,
if we were comparing your penis to say, Barry Manilow, or RuPaul, or Richard Simmons or Elton John, THEN, you'd be the BIG DICK, for sure,
but, we arent,
in THIS forum, we are discussing the biggest COCK AND BALLS program of ALL TIME, 1995 nebraska, and, sadly, your penis need not apply,
next to the 95 program, your dick comes across looking like a soft pink pussy,
no hard feelings?
your penis just doesnt measure up to 95 nebraska,
if we were comparing your penis to say, Barry Manilow, or RuPaul, or Richard Simmons or Elton John, THEN, you'd be the BIG DICK, for sure,
but, we arent,
in THIS forum, we are discussing the biggest COCK AND BALLS program of ALL TIME, 1995 nebraska, and, sadly, your penis need not apply,
next to the 95 program, your dick comes across looking like a soft pink pussy,
no hard feelings?