Graduation Rate...

M2 · Post by M2 » Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:55 am

Cal now has...85% graduation rate and 3.1 GPA average sound awesome!

Unreal!!!

Rack these kids...

they're getting more outta school than I/most.

I feel like a "proud" father!!!

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:30 pm

m2 wrote:Cal now has...85% graduation rate and 3.1 GPA average sound awesome!

Whatever Mr. 15%er...

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:18 pm

I feel like a "proud" father!!!

Why? Did you attend Cal? Do you have a child that attends Cal?

I'm a'confused

L45B · Post by **L45B** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:20 pm

I think he meant it in a George Michael kinda way.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:20 pm

I feared as much

Laxplayer · Post by **Laxplayer** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:25 pm

If it's in a george michael kind of way then wouldn't he be a proud mother too?

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:31 pm

shit - it gets worse

Laxplayer · Post by **Laxplayer** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:31 pm

Worse...so he pitches and catches? Wow

Degenerate · Post by **Degenerate** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:38 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:
m2 wrote:Cal now has...85% graduation rate and 3.1 GPA average sound awesome!
Whatever Mr. 15%er...

Rack

Jimmy Medalions · Post by **Jimmy Medalions** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:19 pm

I'm sure the ballers at Harvard and Princeton have lots of 'bode as well for their graduation stats. In this debate Stanford will have eternal 'bode on Kal.

But hell, if graduation rates are all you can bring about your squad, by all means step up. Watching m2ool get plungered is never a bad thing.

M2 · Post by M2 » Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:51 am

hmmmm..

lol:

BlindRef · Post by **BlindRef** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:37 pm

Did M2 go to Cal or not?

I always assumed it did, but based on some recent threads I am having my doubts.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:48 pm

I believe m2 applied there and that was about it.

Selling wind chimes = Selling insurance

Degenerate · Post by **Degenerate** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:57 pm

He's still working towards an Applied Medieval Studies degree.

BlindRef · Post by **BlindRef** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:17 pm

I have no problem with guys supporting a school they didn't go to, but dropping academic smack is assanine.

I've noticed this fairly often with M-Douche, I always assumed that he went there.

I didn't think it was possible, but now I have even less respect for him as a poster.

<---Actually Attends the University of Michigan.

Jimmy Medalions · Post by **Jimmy Medalions** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:49 pm

m200L didn't go to Kal.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:19 pm

Sometimes all one has is academic sma...ah, screw it! War a win over Texas in '93, a winning record against Florida, a ton of close losses, and having an offense everyone wants to use on NCAA 2006 for playstation!

BlindRef · Post by **BlindRef** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:46 pm

Lefty, when are you coming back to Ann Arbor?

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:14 pm

I think Cal Tech has bode over everyone...isn't that the school with the basketball team where like everyone is a Phd???

KAL BLOWS...

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:15 pm

I thought medieval skands were called wenches?

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:44 pm

Vito Corleone wrote:I thought medieval skands were called wenches?

only when drinking mead and eating a turkey leg.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:56 pm

m2 is a colossal douchebag and his flouting of every little thing Cal is extremely annoying.

That said, 85% does deserve props. A team that actually wins and graduates most of their players doesn't happen very much.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:28 pm

Danimal wrote: That said, 85% does deserve props. A team that actually wins and graduates most of their players doesn't happen very much.

it's getting a lot easier....with the kind of "tutoring" athletes get these days in addition to overall grade inflation.....it's damn near impossible to fail in college at a big public university if you go to class and turn things in on time.

sin,

one university instructor

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 2:31 am

King Crimson wrote:
Danimal wrote: That said, 85% does deserve props. A team that actually wins and graduates most of their players doesn't happen very much.
it's getting a lot easier....with the kind of "tutoring" athletes get these days in addition to overall grade inflation.....it's damn near impossible to fail in college at a big public university if you go to class and turn things in on time.

sin,

one university instructor

Grade inflation is at least as bad in private universities, parents blowing huge $ at the school don't accept their kids getting crap-grades.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:46 am

how can any school seriously take religous based science classes seriously? Thats like college prep nursery tales

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:00 pm

Danimal wrote:
King Crimson wrote:
Danimal wrote: That said, 85% does deserve props. A team that actually wins and graduates most of their players doesn't happen very much.
it's getting a lot easier....with the kind of "tutoring" athletes get these days in addition to overall grade inflation.....it's damn near impossible to fail in college at a big public university if you go to class and turn things in on time.

sin,

one university instructor
Grade inflation is at least as bad in private universities, parents blowing huge $ at the school don't accept their kids getting crap-grades.

that's mos def true. i didn't really mean to make the pub/priv disctinction so sharp....because it's untenable re: grade inflation. i could give many examples of the unspoken pressures that one feels in determining low end grades.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:22 pm

it's getting a lot easier....with the kind of "tutoring" athletes get these days

I am going to disagree on multiple things here. I actually think it was easier back in the day. Hell, when I played we had tutuors so that is nothing new. We had study hall and all that good stuff too. Hell, we even had people to "type" our papers for us, and as they typed them, they edited them. Now with the increased attention on "student" in student athletes schools can no longer have papers typed. Sure there are nice computer labs and such, but the athletes have to do the work.

And for my second point, grade inflation is not just for athletes. There are plenty of colleges where if you just show up and hand in your homework you will get nothing lower than a C regardless of who your parents are.

I think I had it easier when it comes to school work than athletes today do.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:20 pm

Left Seater wrote:
it's getting a lot easier....with the kind of "tutoring" athletes get these days

And for my second point, grade inflation is not just for athletes. There are plenty of colleges where if you just show up and hand in your homework you will get nothing lower than a C regardless of who your parents are.

I think I had it easier when it comes to school work than athletes today do.

i never meant grade inflation was just for athletes....it doesn't discriminate. it's across the board.

well, the way the athletic tutoring works today is student-athletes work in "groups"...with a tutor and they justify this as "team-building" and group communication skills etc.....but the work tends to look an awful lot the same. and there's a lot of semi-doctored cut and paste plagiarism. and the labor is divided such that student A does Chapters 1-5, Student B Chapter 6-10, etc....and they pool their notes and all that. it's organized cheating, really.....but they CALL it "group-work".

but, plagiarism is enabled by digital technology/internet in ways that no one could have imagined just a few years ago. you can buy papers on-line on literally almost anything. it's really pretty amazing.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 8:54 pm

Agreed on the group work thing, but again that is not something new. Group work has been around as long as I have been alive and will prolly be around when I am gone.

Having a mother who was a teacher, I have had the reasoning behind group work explained to me, but I still think it is crap. Back when I was in school the teachers never put the "best" students together. Instead they would mix it up so the top students were grouped with some of the worst. The top student ended up doing all the work and everyone else in the group put their name on it and got the credit.

Again, not much different than the "sharing" as you put it, in my book.

WAR all group "learning" meeting its end.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 9:23 pm

i guess my point is that that in the Colorado Athletic Dept. case "the group-work" is overseen, and in most cases moderated, by the "tutor". and I think it would be naive to think CU is unique.

when non-athlete students do it (as they have been doing since time immemorial)....it's not something the University is *paying* someone to do.

you guys got us 9-5 today, so props to Rice. but, a good year for the Sooners. we just kind of ran out of pitching.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:35 pm

I guess I see your point at least partially. However, there were paid employees of Wharton that actually worked for my wife and her cohort while she was in grad school. These "secretaries" if you will were available for any type of work from research to writing to slide prep in powerpoint.

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