Trouble in "Dynastyville"???

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:13 am

...no sweat, he just wants to avoid a mini-camp injury

not making this up, 11 mini-camp injuries in the past 2 weeks

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:34 pm

I know he won a SB MVP but so hasnt Larry Brown and Dexter Jackson. He had 78 catches for not even a 1000 yards and 5 TD. He might have been a little banged up, but I dont see how this guy thinks he is underpaid when he is making over a million a season. Come out this year w/ a chip on your shoulder and catch over 80 balls w/ over a 1000 yards and you will get paid.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:41 pm

Cicero wrote:I know he won a SB MVP but so hasnt Larry Brown and Dexter Jackson. He had 78 catches for not even a 1000 yards and 5 TD. He might have been a little banged up, but I dont see how this guy thinks he is underpaid when he is making over a million a season. Come out this year w/ a chip on your shoulder and catch over 80 balls w/ over a 1000 yards and you will get paid.

80 balls for 1000 yards in Belichick's offense is like 100 balls for 1500 yards in a Mike Martz scheme. The Pats spread the ball around and don't let any one reciever become "the guy". Branch knows this and either wants to get paid what he would in a reciever friendly system or get the hell out of New England and on a team that will use him as the #1 guy.

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:59 pm

I think w/ Givens leaving and Troy Brown another year older, he is going to see a lot more passes thrown his way.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:06 pm

Cicero wrote:I think w/ Givens leaving and Troy Brown another year older, he is going to see a lot more passes thrown his way.

He may, but not that many more. And even if he does, he's not going to get paid the way he thinks he should. Not by New England that is. Branch is 27 and he knows that the closer he gets to 30, the lower his odds of breaking the bank are.

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:36 pm

BSmack wrote:80 balls for 1000 yards in Belichick's offense is like 100 balls for 1500 yards in a Mike Martz scheme.

What the fuck are you talking about?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:39 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote:
BSmack wrote:80 balls for 1000 yards in Belichick's offense is like 100 balls for 1500 yards in a Mike Martz scheme.
What the fuck are you talking about?

Just saying that your chances of seeing someone put up Torry Holt like numbers in New England's system are pretty fucking slim.

Neely8 · Post by **Neely8** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:57 pm

I like Deion and all but do you really think he would be a #1 in anybodys system? Thats why the Pats won't pay him like one......

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:20 am

Neely8 wrote:I like Deion and all but do you really think he would be a #1 in anybodys system? Thats why the Pats won't pay him like one......

It's hard to say. He's the same size as Santana Moss and Steve Smith. And he seems to be able to get open. Why not?

Then again, it really doesn't matter. My point is that the Pats spread the ball around like no other. They had a QB who threw for 4100 yards and not a single receiver broke the 1000 yard mark. Brady also threw 26 touchdowns and not one receiver had more than 5 of them. It's just not a system where a clear cut "star" is going to emerge from the ranks of their receivers unless a whole bunch of guys start suffering some season ending injuries. Whether Branch is or is not a true #1 guy is immaterial. He obviously thinks he is and knows that the Patriots are not going to make it happen for him.

Neely8 · Post by **Neely8** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:48 pm

BSmack wrote:
Neely8 wrote:I like Deion and all but do you really think he would be a #1 in anybodys system? Thats why the Pats won't pay him like one......
It's hard to say. He's the same size as Santana Moss and Steve Smith. And he seems to be able to get open. Why not?

Then again, it really doesn't matter. My point is that the Pats spread the ball around like no other. They had a QB who threw for 4100 yards and not a single receiver broke the 1000 yard mark. Brady also threw 26 touchdowns and not one receiver had more than 5 of them. It's just not a system where a clear cut "star" is going to emerge from the ranks of their receivers unless a whole bunch of guys start suffering some season ending injuries. Whether Branch is or is not a true #1 guy is immaterial. He obviously thinks he is and knows that the Patriots are not going to make it happen for him.

My point was simply that the Pats do not see him as a #1 and therefore there is no way that they will pay him 6-7 million a year. Have a nice career somewhere else. I like the guy and all......even met him once and he seemed like a super nice guy......but they can get someone to fill his position for ALOT less.

I agree Bri that they have a system and within that system it doesn't take a GREAT receiver to get the job done. Givens will be a perfect example of that in Tennessee. Nice guy, decent receiver, but worth the money he got? No way.....

Neely8 · Post by **Neely8** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:31 pm

mvscal wrote:
Neely8 wrote:My point was simply that the Pats do not see him as a #1 and therefore there is no way that they will pay him 6-7 million a year. Have a nice career somewhere else.
And there's nothing wrong with that. It's just business. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing him down in San Diego. 6 to 7 million is a bit steep, but 3 or 4 would work.

3-4 I think they would consider, but he wants #1 money......