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Harper slipping where it counts

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A new poll suggests Stephen Harper's post-election surge in popularity has dissipated and dimmed his chances of turning his minority government into a majority.

The prime minister's Conservatives lost ground in the country's two crucial battlegrounds, Ontario and Quebec, according to the Decima poll made exclusively available to The Canadian Press.

The Decima results arrive like a bucket of ice water amid fevered speculation that Harper will try to engineer the defeat of his government this fall over the softwood lumber deal.

Harper has said the agreement, aimed at ending the longstanding softwood trade dispute with the United States, will be put to a vote in House of Commons in October. He has declared it will be a confidence vote, meaning the government will fall if a majority of MPs vote against the deal.

All three opposition parties have declared their opposition to the deal. And one Liberal leadership contender, Bob Rae, has dared Harper to call an early election over it.

The Liberals, afraid that Harper will pull the plug before they elect a new leader Dec. 3, have prepared contingency plans to accelerate the leadership selection process. And they've begun nominating candidates without waiting for a new leader to put his or her stamp on the election team.

But Decima Research CEO Bruce Anderson said all parties might want to cool their campaign jets.

The poll suggests a snap fall election wouldn't be in any party's interests, with the possible exception of the separatist Bloc Quebecois, and would produce virtually identical results to last January's vote.

"As debate heats up about a possible fall election, these patterns might argue caution for the Conservatives, caution for the Liberals and caution for the NDP," Anderson said.

"Arguably, they might create some modest bullishness for the BQ, but only compared to the kind of results they were looking at a few months ago."

The telephone survey of 1,009 Canadians was conducted July 20-23, amid controversy over Harper's unequivocal support for Israel's bombardment of Lebanon despite the rising civilian death toll.

The Conservatives also came in for severe criticism for their initial response to the chaotic evacuation of Canadians fleeing Lebanon.

A sample this size is considered accurate within plus or minus 3.1 percentage points 19 times in 20.

Decima found support for all the parties had returned to almost exactly the same levels that produced the Conservative minority last January.

Nationally, the Conservatives had the support of 36 per cent, the Liberals 30 per cent and the New Democrats 17 per cent.

In the two provinces that will determine whether Harper can turn his minority into a majority, the Conservatives had lost the ground they gained during a post-election honeymoon.

In Quebec, the province Harper has wooed most assiduously, the poll found the BQ had rebounded to 43 per cent, up five points since a Decima poll in May, while the Tories had slipped six points to 23 per cent. The Liberals had 18 per cent and the NDP eight per cent.

And in Ontario, where the Tories and Liberals had been neck and neck as recently as mid-June, the poll found the Liberals had pulled into a nine-point lead with 43 per cent support, compared to 33 per cent for the Conservatives and 18 per cent for the NDP.

"These patterns suggest that some recovery of the Liberal brand may be underway in Ontario and also that the Conservative momentum in Quebec has reversed, at least for the time being," Anderson said.

Given the high profile of the Middle East conflict, Anderson said: "It's reasonable to speculate that some of the softening of Conservative support, at least in Quebec, may be linked to Canada's alignment with the U.S. foreign policy (on Israel), coupled with major investments in military capabilities."

Quebecers traditionally tend to be more pacifist than Canadians elsewhere.
Well that is some good news and his numbers will drop especially in Quebec with his total support towards Israel.

He sure has lost support in Ontario and Quebec though.

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And to think, Harper's numbers are falling while the Liberals still haven't elected a new leader yet..

Go on Steve, force that election by making the softwood lumber deal a non-confidence vote.

Please... :lol:

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"here's what we've ahceived in just a few months:
Sucked off the US in softwood lumber
Helped to CLOSE day care around the country
15 dead in Afghanistan since the election.

Ain'tConservatism great? I think he's got shares in the Oil sands, so he doesn't really care.

Christ, what did we miss when no-one elceted Preston Manning?
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Tories bounce back, poll suggests
The federal Conservatives recovered from a slide in the polls and regained a sizeable lead over the Liberals nationally, but they trail in Ontario and Quebec, a new public-opinion survey suggests.

The Tories had 36 per cent support nationally, while the Liberals were at 29 per cent and the NDP at 15, according to a telephone poll by Decima Research Inc. conducted Aug. 10-13.

The numbers, which still leave the government well shy of winning a coveted majority, remain problematic for the Conservatives in the crucial battlefield of Quebec. Just a few months ago they were nipping at the Bloc Quebecois' heels, but they now lag behind by a whopping 18 percentage points.

Last week, Decima released a survey suggesting the Tories had dipped to a virtual tie with the Grits — who have yet to elect a leader — amid criticism of the government's handling of the Hezbollah-Israeli conflict.

Decima pollster Bruce Anderson draws one conclusion from the wild swings in public opinion: voter support is up for grabs.

"We are talking about whether one voter in 20 feels more inclined to vote Conservative one week, Liberal the next, and Conservative the week after that," he said.

"Fewer people are more rigidly tied to political brands, and there is much that voters feel they don't yet know about both the Liberals and the Conservatives."

The Tories had dropped to 32 per cent support in a Decima poll conducted at the end of last month — just one percentage point ahead of the Liberals.

Decima pollster Bruce Anderson draws one conclusion from the wild swings in public opinion: voter support is up for grabs.

"We are talking about whether one voter in 20 feels more inclined to vote Conservative one week, Liberal the next, and Conservative the week after that," he said.

"Fewer people are more rigidly tied to political brands, and there is much that voters feel they don't yet know about both the Liberals and the Conservatives."

The Tories had dropped to 32 per cent support in a Decima poll conducted at the end of last month — just one percentage point ahead of the Liberals.

The latest Decima numbers are similar to the election results that gave the Tories 124 seats, 31 shy of a parliamentary majority.

In Quebec, the Bloc had 41 per cent support, the Tories, 23, and the Liberals, 19.

In Ontario, the Liberals were at 37 per cent, the Conservatives, 36, and the NDP, 16.

The latest survey of 1,004 Canadians is considered accurate to within 3.1 percentage points 19 times out of 20.
Well that 4% increase in basically the margin of error.

They are sure losing ground in Quebec fast. I wonder why? (sarcasim).

They are behind the leaderless Libs now in Ontario, which is another good sign. As they were up in Ont and Quebec for a while. I wonder what the numbers are for rest of Canada?

I am starting to believe the Conservatives will not get a majority and I can see them declining once the Libs get a new leader.

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Has anyone's local Tory party machine begun to announce candidates for the fall - "just in case"??
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The phantorino wrote:Has anyone's local Tory party machine begun to announce candidates for the fall - "just in case"??
Not in my riding yet. I have not heard. I know some Liberal and NDP ones have candidates.
The results are sure to put political heat on Harper and his advisers to rethink their iron-fisted approach to governing and the party's overall strategy aimed at winning a majority in the next election.

In most regions of the country, the rise in Conservative popularity last spring has flattened or reversed, particularly in Quebec.

From the outset, Harper's government has maintained an intense focus on Quebec, acknowledging the province is key to winning a national majority. Instead, this week's poll shows Quebecers souring on the Conservatives in droves, support for the party dropping to 26 per cent from 35 per cent over the summer.

Pollster Nick Nanos, head of SES Research, characterized the polling results as the Harper government's having taken "two steps forward, two steps back."

Nanos said there is little doubt the government is taking a hit in Quebec in part for its hardline stance on the Mideast conflict. Whatever the reason, he said, political reality is that unless the Tories do well in Quebec, it is mathematically unlikely Harper will ever lead anything more than a minority government.

"I think it is safe to assume that the Conservatives will be working on a major charm offensive in Quebec."

The SES poll is both good news and bad for the main opposition parties.

On the bright side for the Liberals, the survey found the leaderless Grits have bounced back in the pivotal electoral battleground Ontario, climbing from a low of 34 per cent in May to 42 per cent this week.

On the other hand, the Liberals gained almost nothing from the slide in Conservative support in Quebec as disaffected voters stampeded to the Bloc Quebecois instead.

As a result, if an election were held today, the poll indicated the Liberals would be third in Quebec with 22 per cent of the vote, behind the Tories (26) and the Bloc (42).

Similarly, the NDP has little reason to rejoice.

While the party remains mired at 18 per cent of national support, almost all of the Liberal gains in Ontario during the last few months have been at the expense of the New Democrats, who have dropped six points since May.
NDP - 18%

CPC - 36%

LPC - 30%

Bloc - 11%

Green - 5%

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Polls suggest Tories stuck
The issues of Mideast politics, defence and the environment have combined to hinder the Conservatives in their quest for a majority governmenty, a poll suggests.

A Decima poll conducted during the holiday weekend and given to The Canadian Press today that support for the Conservatives was at 34 per cent among decided voters, or two points lower than the level reached on election day. Nationally the Liberals were at 30 per cent, the NDP at 14 per cent and the Bloc at 11 per cent.

The Green Party, with new leader Elizabeth May, came in at a surprising 10 per cent — more than double the 4.5 per cent they garnered on election day.

In Ontario, the leaderless Liberals held 41 per cent compared with 35 per cent for the Tories.

But perhaps most troublesome for the party were the standings in Quebec, where the Tories slipped to 20 per cent from 25 per cent on election day in late January. The province is where many Conservative strategists saw their best hopes for securing a majority government.
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Well that is good news as it looks like Harper will never get that majority he wants. He sure is losing ground in Quebec and behind leaderless Libs in Ontario.

So the last few polls basically show similar numbers, that Harper is not really gaining. :)
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