Aircraft Crashes into NY Building

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:47 pm

Any time a pitcher runs out of gas, the manager pulls him out of the game.

Guess it doesn't much matter what the game is.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:09 pm

The phantorino wrote:While I loved reading all of these fascinating descriptions (told only to impress people with your flying prowess and simulator 'games' experience- WTF was that?) A radio journalist that has his pilots license reported this morning that from all the evidence so far - he didn't fill the fuckin' tank and ran out of gas.
The End

Any more conspiracy theories out there, or can we all go back to our lives, now?

STFU bitch! The fact that a few of us on the boards are actual pilots isn't news to anyone here. Why would we try to impress anyone? It's old news. Now go back to sucking our dicks.

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:33 pm

Cuda wrote:Any time a pitcher runs out of gas, the manager pulls him out of the game.

But not the flight instructor, apparently.

Nishlord · Post by **Nishlord** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:51 pm

So if he ran out of petrol, why didn't he try a crash-landing instead of using a building to stop?

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:09 pm

Nishlord wrote:So if he ran out of petrol, why didn't he try a crash-landing instead of using a building to stop?

Where the fuck you going to land in downtown Manhattan ??

When you have engine failure you have a very few seconds to figure out where your going to put it down. That depends on your altitude, the glide ratio of your aircraft, obstructions (many) and LUCK.

That fucking parachute system on that Cirius did them a lot of good eh ??

If he did run out of gass, then a stupid pilot and a very stupid CFI are now out of the skies.

A dude decided to fly his Centurion about 40 miles out and back with less than 1/4 tank of fuel. He made it into and out of this one way mountain strip, the engine coughed and quit about 8 miles short of the airport. He dropped the gear, headed for a open field, caught the electric wire with the gear and flipped the fucker over. My old man and I saw it, hauled ass and drug his ass out of there and he lived to tell the story and hopefully not to fly again.

Another student tried to fly from Redding CA to Hillsboro, OR non stop in a fucking Cessna 150. Small problem was he forgot to calculate the head wind correctly, and reserve amounts and ran out of fuel on fucking FINAL approach and crashed about 1/4 short of thee runway. Another guy did the same thing in a 182 RG and crashed the fucker on the MAX tracks.

Poor piloting... did not use the checklist or ignored the FUEL CHECK thats right at the top of most pre flight cards....sucks to be them I guess....oh and Flight Sims are used by a lot of pilots... they make for safer flying and are more than a "game".

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:13 pm

Cuda wrote:AP, ATC probably isn't going to vector him into a building and even if he didn't have a CFI on board- which he did- the plane had a 2 axis autopilot to do the climbs & turns for him.

Btw, if the CFI didn't take the controls, like he should have, if the plane went into IMC, the skies are now TWO pilots safer.

Only problem there is you have to have the INTENDED flight path programed into the autopilot / GPS BEFORE you get into trouble. Probably not going to happen on a corridor type flight like they were on. That's a hands on flight, so if you have to take evasive action, you can.

I would have thought that to be a TCA area, but I don't know for sure.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:32 pm

I don't buy the outta gas thing. Don't they have some kinda low fuel light or something? And he was flying over the river. You loose power, you put it down somewhere near the shore or in the drink. Also, while it was cloudy, there was 7 miles visibility with a ceiling around 1900 feet. High enough to get them around those buildings.

My guess is dude decided to play maverick and buzz the tower. He banked it over and possibly stalled it. There also could have been some pretty stiff winds that helped suck him into the tower he was trying to buzz.

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:42 pm

smackaholic wrote:I don't buy the outta gas thing. Don't they have some kinda low fuel light or something? And he was flying over the river. You loose power, you put it down somewhere near the shore or in the drink. Also, while it was cloudy, there was 7 miles visibility with a ceiling around 1900 feet. High enough to get them around those buildings.

My guess is dude decided to play maverick and buzz the tower. He banked it over and possibly stalled it. There also could have been some pretty stiff winds that helped suck him into the tower he was trying to buzz.

Exactly.

Of course, Phantardino didn't provide a link to this "theory." That's pretty surprising. Sin., no. But hey, I was just going with the whole typing in English quasi-comprehension deal, while it lasted. We're here to have fun, and stuff, not talk about baseball players and flight instructors who crash planes into buildings for no apparent reason.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:46 pm

smackaholic wrote:I don't buy the outta gas thing.

Neither do I. There's a station right up by 96th street.

Nishlord · Post by **Nishlord** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:47 pm

Derron wrote:
Nishlord wrote:So if he ran out of petrol, why didn't he try a crash-landing instead of using a building to stop?
Where the fuck you going to land in downtown Manhattan ??

Well, certainly not into a building, you petulant little wankstain.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:08 pm

Nishlord wrote:
Derron wrote:
Nishlord wrote:So if he ran out of petrol, why didn't he try a crash-landing instead of using a building to stop?
Where the fuck you going to land in downtown Manhattan ??
Well, certainly not into a building, you petulant little wankstain.

No fucking shit ???

Find about 800 feet of open space with about another 800 feet approach with NO OBSTRUCTIONS TO RUN INTO, and your good to go. And this all has to be within your glide path at the point of engine failure.

Looks like a lot of unobstructed open space here to put it down in.

Fucking limey....get a fucking clue.

jtr · Post by **jtr** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:14 am

Yanks cursed?

A-Rod on board jet that overruns runway 26 minutes ago

BURBANK, Calif. - A private jet, carrying Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez and six others, overran a runway at Bob Hope Airport on Friday and was brought to a halt by an arresting system.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:36 am

First time A-rod has slid into home in a long while.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:37 am

Derron wrote:

That pic is from the Staten Island Ferry (ie downtown). Nowhere near E 73rd street (upper east side).

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 2:26 am

Mister Bushice wrote:First time A-rod has slid into home in a long while.

It's funny because it's true...

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sat Oct 14, 2006 2:36 am

Nishlord wrote:Well, certainly not into a building, you petulant little wankstain.

I'm guessing if you fly straight into a building it's probably because you didn't have any other options.

Cueball · Post by **Cueball** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 2:37 am

Maybe George rethinks the Torre thing and tires hiring Madden so he can keep these dudes on the ground

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 2:50 am

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:I'm guessing if you fly straight into a building it's probably because you didn't have any other options.

I'm guessing you forgot the sarcasm tags, for the Tardorinro.

Nishlord · Post by **Nishlord** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:59 am

Excuse my ignorance of New York, but isn't there quite a bit of water about? And didn't he brag about his actual plane having a parachute?

Also, seeing as there was a trained instructor on board, I doubt a lack of petrol was the cause.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:27 pm

You are quite right nish. This was a textbook example of some cocky ass jock being a hotdog and getting himself kilt in the process. Sad part is that he took somebody with him.

This guy a Kennedy cousin? They seem to have cornered the market on doing wreckless things with expensive toys.

And once again, ole chuck darwin has been caught napping. Dude actually managed to spawn a few years back.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 2:59 pm

Mikey wrote:
Derron wrote:

That pic is from the Staten Island Ferry (ie downtown). Nowhere near E 73rd street (upper east side).

Feel fee to post a picture of that area where you CAN make a walk away emergency landing on solid ground. let's say within a 1/8th mile of the crash site.

Don't buy the out of fuel thing either. The fire was way to intense not to have had accelerants involved. A room and contents fire don't put out that much.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:34 pm

Nishlord wrote:So if he ran out of petrol, why didn't he try a crash-landing instead of using a building to stop?

Technically, I think that still qualifies as a crash landing, although I'd feel more sure of that if Dinsdale agreed

Nishlord · Post by **Nishlord** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:38 pm

Well in that case, they ought not to have any buildings in New York if this sort of nonsense happens.