Let the debate begin...

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan · Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:58 am

Let me be the first to say that if Rutgers runs the table and gets left out of the BCS title game, it will be complete bullshit. Assuming WVU or Louisville would've made it if they'd gone unbeaten, I don't see why Rutgers should get left out. That would make the first time that there are exactly two unbeaten BCS conference teams left, and one of them gets left out. How the fuck can you say that this is a fair system if a team plays in a BCS conference, finishes undefeated, and still gets passed over for a 1-loss team?

Now you can certainly make an argument that the Big East is a weak conference, but they're still a part of the BCS. If even BCS conference schools can start a season with absolutely no shot at the title game, something is seriously wrong with the system (I know, I know, "sincerely, MA").

Don't get me wrong. Rutgers still has to play WVU. They're far from being a lock to finish unbeaten. It wouldn't even surprise me if they beat WVU but lose to some scrub team that they overlook. But if they do pull it off, they absolutely deserve to be in the BCS title game.

Are there a handful of 1-loss teams who would give the OSU/Mich winner a better game? More than likely, yes. But the key term there is "1-loss." Those teams lost a game, and they have nobody to blame but themselves. There is no logical reason to leave an undefeated BCS team out of the title game unless there are two other, more deserving, unbeaten BCS teams. That is all.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:06 am

I don't see Rutgers overlooking Cincy or Syracuse. I think they are solid enough to beat those two teams.

I see them having a tough time against WVU, and if they get past WVU, then they will have a tough time against another BCS game. Still and all, they have a shot at things. They've done everything right so far.

StrandedTexan · Post by **StrandedTexan** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:09 am

You have got to be completely shitting me...us.

RUTGERS in the NT game?...Kidding right???

Fark that to hell and back and to hell again. Rutgers would get crushed, stomped, annihilated, destroyed, killed, and arse farked in a game with a real team.

Hmm, you are going for the straight ESPN angle...All are happy. Lemme help ya there...YOU ARE AN IDIOT...stfu

M Club · Post by **M Club** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:11 am

perhaps yr trolling, but i think the point is how broken the system is. unless umich wins.

M Club · Post by **M Club** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:13 am

which reminds me, umich vs. rutgers for the national championship? there's already bad blood between them, umich beating them in the nit finals in 2004...

fooken intense, eh.

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan · Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:10 am

I'm simply saying that there's a difference between being the better team, and being the more deserving team. I doubt there would've been a major uproar if Louisville or WVU had run the table and made the BCS title game. Sure, there'd be a few one-loss teams whose fans would piss and moan, but ultimately THEY ALL LOST A FUCKING GAME. I just don't see how it would be so much more ridiculous if Rutgers does it. What makes them so much less deserving than a hypthetically undefeated WVU or Louisville, besides the fact that nobody expected them to do shit this year? If anything, I'd say that makes them more deserving...

Degenerate · Post by **Degenerate** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:24 pm

You gotta love College Football Fan. Less than 12 hours after one of the most exciting games of the year, a game that embodies what is unique, pure and just plaing fucking fun about college athletics, and fans of one-loss football factories are already lining up whining about who deserves in and who doesn't.

Why do some of you people follow this sport, anyway? Seriously.

War Stoops · Post by **War Stoops** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:28 pm

Degenerate wrote:Why do some of you people follow this sport, anyway? Seriously.

Well, one of the reasons is so we can argue about it.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:34 pm

I always listen to Kansas fan when it comes to football.....

Degenerate · Post by **Degenerate** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:39 pm

King Crimson wrote:I always listen to Kansas fan when it comes to football.....

I was a fan of college football long before i ever gave a shit about the Jayhawks. Or 83-79, for that matter.

I guess perpetual whining is part and parcel of being a fan of "big-time" college football.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:01 pm

point to where i am "whining"in this thread.....

FLW Buckeye · Post by **FLW Buckeye** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:45 pm

Degenerate wrote:You gotta love College Football Fan. Less than 12 hours after one of the most exciting games of the year, a game that embodies what is unique, pure and just plaing fucking fun about college athletics, and fans of one-loss football factories are already lining up whining about who deserves in and who doesn't.

Why do some of you people follow this sport, anyway? Seriously.

Seriously? So that we can read the epic takes of those fans that have nothing to cheer about since the beginning of September whine about those fans whining about who deserves in and who doesn't. Got it?

If you need it explained, maybe you need to stick to the NFL or soccer.

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:14 pm

Jsc810 wrote:I hope they run the table, go to the NC game, and then get destroyed 77-0, just to show what complete crap the BCS is.

A 4 or 8 team playoff cannot come soon enough.

Yes and Yes

Terry in Crapchester · Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:47 pm

PSUFAN wrote:I see them having a tough time against WVU, and if they get past WVU, then they will have a tough time against another BCS game.

If Rutgers wins out, Boise State could be their best friend. The Orange Bowl would rather have Rutgers than Boise State. That would give Rutgers a bowl matchup vs. the ACC champ, which is very winnable for Rutgers.

OTOH, if Boise State falls out of the BCS mix, that means in all likelihood that Rutgers winds up in the Fiesta Bowl against Texas. That's an entirely different story for Rutgers.

Shawn Marion · Post by **Shawn Marion** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:16 pm

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote:Let me be the first to say that if Rutgers runs the table and gets left out of the BCS title game, it will be complete bullshit. Assuming WVU or Louisville would've made it if they'd gone unbeaten, I don't see why Rutgers should get left out. That would make the first time that there are exactly two unbeaten BCS conference teams left, and one of them gets left out. How the fuck can you say that this is a fair system if a team plays in a BCS conference, finishes undefeated, and still gets passed over for a 1-loss team?

Now you can certainly make an argument that the Big East is a weak conference, but they're still a part of the BCS. If even BCS conference schools can start a season with absolutely no shot at the title game, something is seriously wrong with the system (I know, I know, "sincerely, MA").

Don't get me wrong. Rutgers still has to play WVU. They're far from being a lock to finish unbeaten. It wouldn't even surprise me if they beat WVU but lose to some scrub team that they overlook. But if they do pull it off, they absolutely deserve to be in the BCS title game.

Are there a handful of 1-loss teams who would give the OSU/Mich winner a better game? More than likely, yes. But the key term there is "1-loss." Those teams lost a game, and they have nobody to blame but themselves. There is no logical reason to leave an undefeated BCS team out of the title game unless there are two other, more deserving, unbeaten BCS teams. That is all.

I will say that if Rutgers runs the table and isn't #2 in the polls at the end of the season then that is complete bullshit. Lou and WVU were both good enough (according to the voters) to be top 3, so if Rutgers beats them then they should be too.

If, however, Rutgers gets left out of the NC game while being ranked #2 in the human polls then that will be fine with me. Like it or not, the computers are part of this and Rutgers played a really crappy schedule. If they lose out on that then that is their own fault. I was fine with Auburn losing out and I would be fine with Rutgers losing out that way. Learn to schedule better.

Van · Post by **Van** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:18 pm

Unfortunately for all of us W. Virginia will almost certainly complete The Circle Of Charades by beating Rutgers.

Man, I hope not. I wanna see Herbstreit continue to try to keep a straight face as he comically bleats out that we need to recognize "the depth" of the new Big Least. It's pure comedy when guys like that try to shill with nonsense about, "Okay, now you GOTTA give the Big Least respect! You just saw it! They beat Louisville...the #3 team in the country!! Two weeks in a row, the Big Least takes down the #3 team in the country! C'mon, they deserve it now! They belong!!"

I about shat myself when they tried to sell us Rutgers by doing the "common opponents" thing with Michigan and Mississippi St or whoever it was...

Nope, Kirk, they don't deserve it and they don't belong and they were never the #3 team in the country. In the big picture all they've demonstrated is that they're all feeble. Entertaining, yes, but small, slow and relatively, yes...feeble. Beating each other up demonstrates no ability whatsoever to go out and succeed at the continuing undefeated level against a steady diet of real opponents from real conferences.

Timmay beat Jimmy, after Jimmy beat Butters. Fun shit, yeah, but utterly irrelevant to Florida, Auburn, Texas, Michigan, ND, Cal and USC...

It was kinda cool though seeing all the red clad tards storming the field a play too early and then seeing 'em quickly scatter like roaches when a kitchen light gets turned on, only to then do it again one play later!

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan · Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:28 pm

Shawn Marion wrote: If, however, Rutgers gets left out of the NC game while being ranked #2 in the human polls then that will be fine with me. Like it or not, the computers are part of this and Rutgers played a really crappy schedule. If they lose out on that then that is their own fault. I was fine with Auburn losing out and I would be fine with Rutgers losing out that way. Learn to schedule better.

I was fine with Auburn being left out because there were two other unbeaten BCS conference teams who, at the time, looked better than Auburn. (Well, maybe I wasn't fine with it, but there was at least some justification for it) If Auburn had been passed over in favor of a 1-loss team simply on the basis of them playing a 1-AA early in the season, it would've been bullshit too.

bradhusker · Post by **bradhusker** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:45 pm

sorry van, nice try, but your wrong again,
heres why,
it seems that a number of folks in here think that rutgers would get rolled by ohio st., michigan, lsu, florida, texas, etc... etc...
REALLY?
you mean the way michigan rolled who? ball st?
you mean the way ohio st. rolled illinois?
so, you think that illinois and ball st. are stronger than rutgers? bullshit, everyone in here knows that illinois and ball st are crap, YET, both pushed around michigan and ohio st.
therefore, rutgers would certainly give both michigan and ohio st. a game, and even beat them,
do me a favor van, THINK before you post,
if the mighty michigan can be pushed around at HOME by ball st.
then rutgers can certainly deserve a shot at a title, provided they remain unbeaten,
I for one believe that west virginia will roll rutgers,
but hey, we'll seee,

campinfool · Post by **campinfool** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:25 pm

Rutgers deserves at least a shot. If they undefeated from a BCS conference then they should have the opportunity to showcase their team against the best of the best. Besides they shut out an Illinois team that has played some Big 10 schools close. They may not be a s bad as most circle jerkers around here think.

bradhusker · Post by **bradhusker** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:28 pm

well said, very well said.

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:16 am

Nebraska has turned kinda gay. They no longer play smashmouth. They've kinda adopted the Pac-10 style of pass and gently try to tackle. Red is our color due to the hue of our anal pipes after a strong team plants one in our arses....As you can see, our gentler husker team has allowed me to mellow and be punctually correct and reduce my profanity....

bradhusker wrote:well said, very well said.

MuchoBulls · Post by **MuchoBulls** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:50 am

Jsc810 wrote:Can you imagine the letdown of Texas player when he learns that they have to play Rutgers.

That won't happen unless they were to somehow meet in the BCS Championship game. If neither is going there then Texas will be in the Fiesta and Rutgers in the Orange.

bradhusker · Post by **bradhusker** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:25 am

the faggott pac ten seer is just mad because I was factually correct about rutgers.
should rutgers beat west virginia, and go unbeaten, THEN they deserve a spot in the national title game, period, end of story.
anyone who thinks that a once beaten gaytor team, or a once beaten ANYBODY, deserves to be higher than rutgers in the polls, is a fuckin fool,
provided that rutgers goes undefeated, should however, west virginia beats rutgers, than its a moot point,
finally, the seer has been a pac ten fairy ALL his life, and thus, he wishes to pawn his gay lifestyle off on me, WELL, I am here to tell you, ITS NOT HAPPENIN'.
seer is a sad pink fairy.
oh, and nebraska would beat usc in a rematch, should they meet in a bowl, which could very well happen, provided that nebraska beats texas in the big 12 title game.
that of course, would put us in a bcs bowl, otherwise, if we lose the big 12 title game, then I would hope for a possible matchup with FSU.
and we could sodomize bobby's boys,

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan · Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:33 am

bradhusker wrote: should rutgers beat west virginia, and go unbeaten, THEN they deserve a spot in the national title game, period, end of story.
anyone who thinks that a once beaten gaytor team, or a once beaten ANYBODY, deserves to be higher than rutgers in the polls, is a fuckin fool,
provided that rutgers goes undefeated, should however, west virginia beats rutgers, than its a moot point,

It's a sad day when a troll makes more sense than many of the regular posters on this board...

bradhusker · Post by **bradhusker** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:36 am

an even sadder day for you faggott CU fan, when we sodomize you fruits in a couple weeks,

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan · Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:38 am

bradhusker wrote:an even sadder day for you faggott CU fan, when we sodomize you fruits in a couple weeks,

Heh. That's more like it. Back to your delusional, homoerotic fantasies...

bradhusker · Post by **bradhusker** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:47 am

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote:
bradhusker wrote:an even sadder day for you faggott CU fan, when we sodomize you fruits in a couple weeks,
Heh. That's more like it. Back to your delusional, homoerotic fantasies...

delusional? so, in two weeks, we're not gonna dry fuck colorado? cause , for the life of me, I cant see us NOT blood raping your faggott pussy squad.

T1B

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