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the division 1A and 1AA designations only 7 of the D1 teams had yet to play a 1AA team, with 2007's season coming up, 2 of those 7 teams will drop off the list. Ohio State and Michigan had been amongst the few and the proud but with the Buckeyes scheduling Youngstown State and the Wolverines scheduling Appalachian State they will drop to the dial a win crowd, well done girls.


The remaining teams yet to go bitch are
Notre Dame
Michigan State
UCLA
USC
Washington

Props to those 5 teams, their athletic departments for having balls and to their fans who will not stand by and watch a scrimage game count.
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I dunno, MSU squeezes Eastern Michigan on their schedule every once in awhile; which is basically a Fall intramural program.

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^^^Exactely. EMU, CMU, and WMU probably wouldn't win I-AA tourny and the same could be said about several 1-A programs every year.
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CMU would've had a good shot last season, actually. Solid team, they were.
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MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:CMU would've had a good shot last season, actually. Solid team, they were.
They won the MAC over Ohio, no? I recall watching some of that game for obvious reasons. (Solich)
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SoCalTrjn wrote:the division 1A and 1AA designations only 7 of the D1 teams had yet to play a 1AA team, with 2007's season coming up, 2 of those 7 teams will drop off the list. Ohio State and Michigan had been amongst the few and the proud but with the Buckeyes scheduling Youngstown State and the Wolverines scheduling Appalachian State they will drop to the dial a win crowd, well done girls.


The remaining teams yet to go bitch are
Notre Dame
Michigan State
UCLA
USC
Washington

Props to those 5 teams, their athletic departments for having balls and to their fans who will not stand by and watch a scrimage game count.
I think geography has a lot to do with it as well. USCfan giving themselves props for not scheduling a D-IAA team? Uhhhh, maybe you should look into illegal gifts(houses, cars, cash, etc.) for athletes at your school instead. I think that's a little higher on the priority list.
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^^


Way to change the subject. Don't think for one second that the same shady shit doesn't happen at UF, FSU or any other big name school.

I do give those schools props for not padding their schedule w/ 1AA teams. At least those schools are willing to leave their backyard in order to play a road game.
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Cicero wrote:^^


Way to change the subject. Don't think for one second that the same shady shit doesn't happen at UF, FSU or any other big name school.

I do give those schools props for not padding their schedule w/ 1AA teams. At least those schools are willing to leave their backyard in order to play a road game.
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SoCalTrjn wrote:Props to those 5 teams, their athletic departments for having balls and to their fans who will not stand by and watch a scrimage game count.
I agree with you to a degree....except Tressel is undoubtedly repaying his old school with a game. They will get a lot of cash out of the situation and get to play in a televised game. While I don't think any IA should play a IAA, this is about the best of a bad situation.
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The App. St. game infuriates me, but the only possible solution would be to play a crap D-1 school anyway. What would the bashers suggest? Do you think traditional powers are lining up to play eachother? UM plays ND and Oregon next season, probably putting them near the top as far as non-conf. scheduling goes. I'd like to see UM play a tough team from a top conference (OU, Texas, FSU, VaTech, teams we don't really see, even in the bowls) but it's a two way street. If a NC is the ultimate goal ('sup Shoalzie) then how many strong programs should a team subject itself to OOC? I'm not happy with App. St., but is it really any different than scheduling say Kent St. ? The 12th game was going to be a cupcake anyway, the only way to avoid it would be to add another conference opponent ('sup again Shoalzie).
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Yes, it's much different than scheduling say Kent St.

Mostly in the sense that it's WAY worse. Kent St had 6 wins against D1 competition. App St wouldn't come close to accomplishing that.
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Stay with me here hater. The 12th game was going to be a gimme. It makes little actual difference. UM is loaded next year, playing App. St. is akin to playing a MAC team in that they have the same chance of beating UM...that being zero. I hate going to D2 to find a 12th game, but the patsy matters little.
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The "difference" comes down to BCS points in the long run. This is the type of game that could come back and haunt you, whereas, if you had a run-of-the-mill MAC player like say Kent St on your schedule, it would be no biggie.

If you're honestly arguing that there is ZERO difference between having a D1AA versus a crappy D1 team as your 12th game, or any game for that matter, you're a fucking idiot, but your myopia and arrogance would be par for the course for MichiganFan.
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I get that point, but a D2 opponent didn't ruin Floridas shot.

I really don't believe (or want to maybe) that UM wanted to schedule a D2 squad. I'm sure they exhausted other options before settling on App.St. I can hear it now....

ring ring....Hello?

Yeah Mid-major AD? This is Lloyd Carr. We're looking to schedule a 12th game for the upcoming campaign. Whaddya say?

click.

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WolverineSteve wrote:I get that point, but a D2 opponent didn't ruin Floridas shot.
Nor did it hurt our NUMBER ONE strength of schedule!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jesse said it best......the question is moot!!!!
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I really don't believe (or want to maybe) that UM wanted to schedule a D2 squad
Well, then good thing for you App St is D1AA, and not D2.

UF was fortunate enough to have a very difficult schedule despite the Western Carolina game. Auburn in '04 didn't have that same "luxury", and I don't think next season's Michigan team will either.
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Good article about Big Ten scheduling.

http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/aanews/ ... thispage=1
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MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:If you're honestly arguing that there is ZERO difference between having a D1AA versus a crappy D1 team as your 12th game, or any game for that matter, you're a fucking idiot, . . .
Agree completely. Tell me, did you run any Commander-in-chief trophy jokes about ND last season?
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WolverineSteve wrote:The App. St. game infuriates me, but the only possible solution would be to play a crap D-1 school anyway. What would the bashers suggest? Do you think traditional powers are lining up to play eachother? UM plays ND and Oregon next season, probably putting them near the top as far as non-conf. scheduling goes. I'd like to see UM play a tough team from a top conference (OU, Texas, FSU, VaTech, teams we don't really see, even in the bowls) but it's a two way street. If a NC is the ultimate goal ('sup Shoalzie) then how many strong programs should a team subject itself to OOC? I'm not happy with App. St., but is it really any different than scheduling say Kent St. ? The 12th game was going to be a cupcake anyway, the only way to avoid it would be to add another conference opponent ('sup again Shoalzie).
Actually, Michigan could have come to LA and played the Trojans in September, they scheduled Idaho when Nick Holt was their coach, Holt is back at USC and the Trojans may be looking to toughen up that OOC slate of roadies vs Nebraska and Notre Dame
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What the SEC teams have figured out is that if all of them play 1aa teams OOC and if they all play 7 or 8 home games, they will all have better records which will then give all of them better strength of schedules.
some day SEC fans will catch on to what the SEC teams already know
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SoCalTrjn wrote:What the SEC teams have figured out is that if all of them play 1aa teams OOC and if they all play 7 or 8 home games, they will all have better records which will then give all of them better strength of schedules.
some day SEC fans will catch on to what the SEC teams already know
That's f-in hilarious.....SOS? That won't win you dick which is why thsi thread is funny. You still have to play em and win em no matter who is lined up on the other side against you. It's just funny that the whiners in here are always bitching and crying about the SEC when in fact they have difficult schedules. You mock what you don't understand....even moreso, what you refuse to understand.
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Terry in Crapchester wrote:Agree completely. Tell me, did you run any Commander-in-chief trophy jokes about ND last season?
No, but if I had, obviously those games are still a few notches above playing any D1AA team.
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WolverineSteve wrote:Stay with me here hater. The 12th game was going to be a gimme. It makes little actual difference. UM is loaded next year, playing App. St. is akin to playing a MAC team in that they have the same chance of beating UM...that being zero. I hate going to D2 to find a 12th game, but the patsy matters little.
Then why not just schedule an NAIA school?
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If you ask me, I'd like to see the NCAA require each BCS conference school to schedule a minimum of 2 non-conference games against other BCS conference schools or Notre Dame. Really, no school can run smack at any other school for their weak scheduling because everyone schedules at least 3 (or 2 in an 11 game schedule year) cupcakes in the non-conference. 90% of the teams don't face a single Top 20 team in the non-conference and it's getting old. So as long as teams are creating the schedules the way they are, they might as well just schedule a 1-AA opponent. Heck, what's the difference between Northern Iowa and Rice or Eastern Michigan? Either way, a BCS conference team shouldn't be playing the game. For the fans, the non-conference is an absolute snoozer. There are maybe 2 good games every week anymore during September. Not only that, but we don't get to see who really has the best conferences. A few bowl games don't prove anything especially when some teams play 40+ days after their last game and they really aren't that meaningful of games. We're basing who the best conferences are on a couple of games. Instead, with my new rules, we could have 15-20 games between many BCS leagues just during the regular season. Then we would have a more accurate reading on who the best leagues are.
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TheJON wrote:If you ask me, I'd like to see the NCAA require each BCS conference school to schedule a minimum of 2 non-conference games against other BCS conference schools or Notre Dame.
Good idea, but we're gonna need more phone lines.

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I realize by requiring everyone to play 2 BCS conference teams, it wouldn't be perfect. Teams would jump all over a matchup with Baylor or UCONN, but it's better than what we have right now. Besides, only so many teams can play Baylor and Northwestern. Overall, we'd have much better matchups in the non-conference. I just don't get too excited for those Michigan vs Western Michigan matchups or that big in-state rivalry of Miami vs Florida International (well, maybe if a brawl breaks out I would). It's pretty sad when people spend the whole offseason talking about 1 big non-conference game (ie Texas vs Ohio State). The reason they do that is because it's so rare for 2 highly ranked teams to meet up in the non-conference and that is ridiculous. What does playing a team like Florida playing Ohio prove? The only point of these games is for the schools to generate revenue and pad their record. If you want to have 1-2 cupcakes, then fine. It's a good way to get your young guys some PT. But the other 2-3 non-conference games should be against quality opponents. I want to see Oklahoma vs USC, Miami vs LSU, Ohio State vs Auburn, Texas vs Florida, etc....... Why do we have to wait until bowl season to get those kind of matchups??
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USC's OOC schedule last year
@ Arkansas (sec title game team)
Nebraska (big 12 title game team)
Notre Dame (BCS bowl team)

The NCAA should make it mandatory for all teams to play USCesque OOC schedules, with half the games on the road. There is absolutlety no reason to play 1aa teams other than just wanting an easy win.
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MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:
TheJON wrote:If you ask me, I'd like to see the NCAA require each BCS conference school to schedule a minimum of 2 non-conference games against other BCS conference schools or Notre Dame.
Good idea, but we're gonna need more phone lines.

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As for Mgo's point, he's spot on as well. But at least to an extent, that problem is potentially self-correcting. As a general rule, it takes five years or so to get an opponent on your schedule. I'm quite sure that if this rule had been in effect five years ago, Rutgers would have been a very popular commodity back then. But since then, that program has improved to the point where those who actually managed to get Rutgers on their schedule would now have more than they bargained for.
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a common rule may have been 5 years to get an opponent but when the NCAA decided to allow all teams to play 12 regular season games.... every D1 team besides those in the Pac 10 suddenly had an open date.... there was no reason to scramble for a D1aa or D2 team when everyone had a schedule spot to fill
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