Sweet 16/Elite 8 Thread

Shine · Post by **Shine** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:32 pm

Some pretty good games coming up.

Florida/Butler- I think the Bulldogs will keep this thing relatively close but UF just too strong.
Oregon/UNLV- Might be the best game of this round, I think the Ducks uptempo the game enough though.
Kansas/SIU- If KU brings their A game this could get ugly.
UCLA/Pitt- I think Pitt is the most overrated team in the country, UCLA by 20.
UNC/USC- Could see this one being close but think UNC has too many horses.
G-town/Vandy- If Vandy can get hot from outside I think they've got a shot at the upset.
tO$U/Tenn- VERY interested to see the gameplans each coach attempts to utilize, this might be the best game of the round too.
ATM/Memphis- I think this game will be pretty uptempo and could see Memphis pulling the "upset" if they can get hot from outside.

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:57 pm

I hope these 4 advance

tOSU, Oregon, UNC, and FLA

Sin,

My Bracket...yep riding Oregon and UCLA hard baby...

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:09 pm

All my Elite 8 teams are still remaining. I have the following teams moving on"

Florida
Oregon
Kansas
UCLA
UNC
GeorgeTown
Oh St
A&M

Mook · Post by **Mook** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:46 pm

Florida/Butler: Florida just has too much firepower for Butler. I don't see how Butler wins this.

Oregon/UNLV: Both these teams have the capability to look very good, I've also seen both look very bad at times this year. I hope they both play their "A" games, it would be fun to watch. I'm going with Oregon.

Kansas/SIU: One thing that isn't being talked about much is how SIU is going to deal with Kansas' defense. Kansas' D is statistically better than SIU's in almost every category. I think SIU struggles mightily to get to 50 points and Kansas gets into the low 60's. I'm with Kansas.

UCLA/Pitt: I'm not a big Pitt backer either, but UCLA hasn't looked very good for several games now. Regardless, UCLA is the better team and I'm going with them here.

UNC/USC: North Carolina plays bad defense and shoots free throws poorly; both are recipes for an earlier than expected tourney loss. I have not been impressed by their play in rounds 1 & 2. It's hard for me to pick against UNC though because of all the talent. USC has played a very tough schedule, won some big games and I think they will pull off the upset here. My pick is USC.

G'Town/Vandy: I'll pick Georgetown. I'm concerned that they could look past Vandy since they beat them so handily earlier this year. They shouldn't look ahead, but........it happens.

Ohio St/Tenn: I think this will be a tough game. Tennessee plays a similar style to Xavier and that didn't go so well for OSU. Plus Tennessee knows they can play with them, even without a good performance from Lofton. IF I was gambling, I would happily take Tenn +5!! This could go either way but in the end, I'll pick Ohio State.

aTm/Memphis: I'm going with aTm, I just can't pick Memphis because of their schedule and even through two rounds they still have not beat a really good team. In my opinion aTm is a really good team and they should benefit by playing near home (although in my opinion that sometimes adds to the pressure and expectation of a team). This should be a great game. Memphis could prove me wrong all the way to the Final Four, but I'm not picking them here.

Now on to a very minor seeding issue. How in the hell does aTm get basically a homecourt game as a #3 seed?? How does UCLA get to stay so close to home as a #2 seed?? I know the committee has a lot to work around, but these two placements just don't make sense to me. Anyway, it's not that big a deal it just doesn't make sense to me.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk!

WolverineSteve · Post by **WolverineSteve** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:47 pm

I've got 13 of the 16 left....

Memphis,G'town, UF, and Kansas to the FF.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:47 pm

Mook,

Way to ride the fence on every one of your picks. You could work for ESPN. ;)

Oh, and the selection committee was banking on A&M not making it to San Antonio. See last round vs. Louisville is Lexington, 60 minutes away from Louisville.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:08 pm

i think Memphis/ATM is an interesting matchup. Memphis has some real freaks and athleticism. i think playing Louisville will help ATM in this one, and playing at home thanks to the goofball pod system pay-back for playing the Ville at Rupp.

thing about getting the 4 days off, is some teams get the "we're just happy to be here" syndrome.

Vandy runs a version of the Princeton, might make it interesting for G'Town. G'Town is the better team.

Mook · Post by **Mook** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:02 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:Mook,

Way to ride the fence on every one of your picks. You could work for ESPN. ;)

Oh, and the selection committee was banking on A&M not making it to San Antonio. See last round vs. Louisville is Lexington, 60 minutes away from Louisville.

I believe I made a pick for every game.

Mook · Post by **Mook** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:08 pm

IndyFrisco wrote: See last round vs. Louisville is Lexington, 60 minutes away from Louisville.

And yes, I also had a HUGE problem with that location for the aTm/Louisville game.

Didn't Xavier play in Lexington as well vs. Ohio State? Not too good either.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:33 pm

I was at the game. You could count the number of Xavier fans on two hands and two feet. OSU definitely represented. Besides, Louisville and A&M fans at the X/OSU game were pulling for Xavier.

Terry in Crapchester · Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:42 pm

Mook wrote:Now on to a very minor seeding issue. How in the hell does aTm get basically a homecourt game as a #3 seed?? How does UCLA get to stay so close to home as a #2 seed?? I know the committee has a lot to work around, but these two placements just don't make sense to me. Anyway, it's not that big a deal it just doesn't make sense to me.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk!

I believe the Selection Committee tries to keep most of the higher seeds, or at least the highest seeded team from each conference, in their natural regional, although there are exceptions. Florida did wind up in the Midwest, but they were the #1 overall seed, and this year the Midwest Regional site (St. Louis) was actually a little closer to Gainesville than either the South Regional site (San Antonio) or the East Regional site (East Rutherford). And Kansas did have to go out west, but one of the #1 seeds was going there outside their more logical placement, and Kansas was the last of the 1 seeds.

Btw, in the East Regional one could argue that Georgetown, as a 2 seed, has what amounts to a de facto home game in the East Regional final vs. North Carolina, as a 1 seed (assuming both make it). That's more a function of where the regional site is than anything else, though (although you rarely see the East Regional played south of Washington, D.C.).

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:24 pm

IndyFrisco wrote: Oh, and the selection committee was banking on A&M not making it to San Antonio.

So was I.

Even though I picked OSU to go to the championship game and lose to KU, I'm now pulling for Tennessee to knock their dicks in the dirt. The way Xavier lost that game with Oden's flagrant foul not being called, they need to go down.

Go Vols!

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:36 pm

Mook wrote: Now on to a very minor seeding issue. How in the hell does aTm get basically a homecourt game as a #3 seed?? How does UCLA get to stay so close to home as a #2 seed?? I know the committee has a lot to work around, but these two placements just don't make sense to me. Anyway, it's not that big a deal it just doesn't make sense to me.

oh christ Mook. you are surely joking. you've rebuked me before about my standing complaint on KU's "big run" with Self 3 or 4 years ago playing in Kemper and STL as a, what, 5 seed?

i've posted a thousand times i think the pod system is a joke, but are you also one of those people who thought Kemper was a "neutral site" for the Big 8 tournament....and now are complaining about OTHER teams getting a home draw.

c'mon.

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:17 pm

War Wagon wrote:I'm now pulling for Tennessee to knock their dicks in the dirt. The way Xavier lost that game with Oden's flagrant foul not being called, they need to go down.

Go Vols!

RACK

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:22 pm

War Wagon wrote:Even though I picked OSU to go to the championship game and lose to KU, I'm now pulling for Tennessee to knock their dicks in the dirt. The way Xavier lost that game with Oden's flagrant foul not being called, they need to go down.

What the hell is this?

In the original thread this was discussed in, War Wagon wrote:Yep, Xavier blew it. Gotta' give props to OSU for taking advantage of the opportunity that was given them.

Mook · Post by **Mook** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:30 pm

King Crimson wrote:
Mook wrote: Now on to a very minor seeding issue. How in the hell does aTm get basically a homecourt game as a #3 seed?? How does UCLA get to stay so close to home as a #2 seed?? I know the committee has a lot to work around, but these two placements just don't make sense to me. Anyway, it's not that big a deal it just doesn't make sense to me.
oh christ Mook. you are surely joking. you've rebuked me before about my standing complaint on KU's "big run" with Self 3 or 4 years ago playing in Kemper and STL as a, what, 5 seed?

i've posted a thousand times i think the pod system is a joke, but are you also one of those people who thought Kemper was a "neutral site" for the Big 8 tournament....and now are complaining about OTHER teams getting a home draw.

c'mon.

I'm pretty sure they played in St. Louis, but not Kemper in Self's first year when they played Ga. Tech. I don't remember what seed they were, but I think it was a #3 and yes that's equally bad. I don't remember if I rebuked you (I probably did) about where they played and even if I did it doesn't mean I have to be consistent in my positions!! I'm kidding, you may have me on this one.

They have played in Kemper as a #1 seed and #1 seeds are very different in my opinion, I don't care how close to home they play. And I have never said that Kemper was neutral for Kansas. It isn't. You're just bitter about 1988........Kansas was a 6 seed that year, I think.......good times indeed.

Anyway, I agree the pod system is a joke.

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:31 pm

is War Wagon the missouri version of Jon???

also I love how no one says a fucking word about Lighty getting planted on his ass by Xavier dude when rebounding the missed three from Butler...

but because HE IS ODEN it must be flagrant right? he did foul the dude but that foul was no harder than most guys get going to the rack...

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:34 pm

That was then, this is now.

No sour grapes.

OSU did what they had to do to win. Doesn't mean I liked it. I wanna' see 'em lose now.

Is that ok with you?

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:35 pm

^^^^^^^^^

sure no problem...

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:42 pm

buckeye_in_sc wrote:i
but because HE IS ODEN it must be flagrant right? he did foul the dude but that foul was no harder than most guys get going to the rack...

Right. Dudes standing there just holding the ball and literally gets picked up off the floor and thrown out of bounds. Fucking homer apologist, alright.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:51 pm

Oden de-cleated the guy. it was an 2 shot get the ball back foul. i don't care what the CBS guys said (protect the #1 seed)....it's their job to hype ratings, at the end of the day. it was a bad , frustration foul. way too physical.

funny how all the tOSU posters were like quacking ducks in the post-game thread..."it was the right call". " he was going for the ball". "Xavier should have made the FT".

FLW Buckeye · Post by **FLW Buckeye** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:51 pm

Holy fuck... Next thing to come out of that overactive mind will be how Oden piledrove him then slapped "The Claw" on that poor helpless victim.

FLW Buckeye · Post by **FLW Buckeye** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:55 pm

King Crimson wrote:Oden de-cleated the guy. it was an 2 shot get the ball back foul. i don't care what the CBS guys said (protect the #1 seed)....it's their job to hype ratings, at the end of the day. it was a bad , frustration foul. way too physical.

funny how all the tOSU posters were like quacking ducks in the post-game thread..."it was the right call". "Xavier should have made the FT".

But if they did make that FT, we wouldn't have to see you getting your whine on...

5 days later and still pissing themselves...pathetic.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:00 pm

FLW Buckeye wrote:
King Crimson wrote:Oden de-cleated the guy. it was an 2 shot get the ball back foul. i don't care what the CBS guys said (protect the #1 seed)....it's their job to hype ratings, at the end of the day. it was a bad , frustration foul. way too physical.

funny how all the tOSU posters were like quacking ducks in the post-game thread..."it was the right call". "Xavier should have made the FT".
But if they did make that FT, we wouldn't have to see you getting your whine on...

5 days later and still pissing themselves...pathetic.

you'd like to think it was the latter, i have no care about that game. i have no "whine"...

yer fucking homer for homer defense is what's funny.

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:09 pm

Let's see if I can run the table...

Florida over Butler
UNLV over Oregon
Kansas over Southern Illinois
UCLA over Pittsburgh
North Carolina over USC
Georgetown over Vanderbilt
Tennessee over Ohio State
Texas A&M over Memphis

L45B · Post by **L45B** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:29 pm

Florida over Butler
UNLV over Oregon
Kansas over Southern Illinois
UCLA over Pittsburgh
USC over UNC
Vandy over Georgetown
tOSU over Tennecleats
Texas A&M over Memphis

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:50 am

well considering 2 fucking refs were right there...and let me guess no other team in the history of the tournament has had the benefit intentional or not from a call, etc???

again no on talks about Lighty getting leveled by an XU player while grabbing the rebound right before that when Butler missed the 3...but then again you probably don't know Xavier dude...but you do know Oden...

right war wagon...maybe Oden put in the tape of Katzenmoyer leveling Jones before the game???

and King...save the homer whiner bullshit...i can remember when people were all over OU a couple years ago about being in the title game after getting shit hammered by KSU and many OU fans defending why they should still be there...pot kettle black much?

(disclaimer - I have nothing against anyone...I just want to enjoy the madness and cheer my team on)...

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:08 am

ku getting some nice calls vs siu

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:27 am

^^^^^^^^

agreed...KU dude barrels into SIU dude late in the game no call...<sarcasm>should have been flagrant<sarcasm>

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:54 am

KU also got the benefit of TWO points they should have NEVER gotten. Poor no-call by the refs.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:29 am

buckeye_in_sc wrote:KU dude barrels into SIU dude late in the game no call...<sarcasm>should have been flagrant<sarcasm>

That's not sarcasm. To qualify as being sarcastic, you must have a valid point and an oz. of credibility to begin with. No, that's homerific idiocy, that's what that is.

Anyways, that SIU team should change their name from Saluki's to Bulldogs, because that's exactly how they play. What a defensive effort that team puts forth. KU is feeling very fortunate right about now just to have survived that.

Kinda' like the Fuckeyes musta' felt against the Musketeers.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:38 am

Aaron Gray sucks.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:43 am

ooops...buckeyes having trouble with the SEC again...

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:49 am

PSUFAN wrote:ooops...buckeyes having trouble with the SEC again...

Is Oden, the #1 NBA draft pick (just ask Dins) sucking wind as he tries to get back on D again?

Color me surprised.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:52 am

Cut him some slack. He is pushing 60, afterall.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:57 am

Maybe he should retire.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:00 am

buckeye_in_sc wrote:
and King...save the homer whiner bullshit...i can remember when people were all over OU a couple years ago about being in the title game after getting shit hammered by KSU and many OU fans defending why they should still be there...pot kettle black much?

that is straight up bullshit. i did not think OU belonged in the BCS game after losing to KSU. yer thinking of someone else. i never posted anything like that here or anywhere.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:04 am

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Cut him some slack. He is pushing 60, afterall.

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:10 am

anyone who thinks Oden is ready for the NBA offensively is an idiot...he has one move...3 fouls in the first half...the fucking team looks lost without him out there...

wagon I guess all your posts are credible...right...

apparently people have a hard time reading in this forum...

i said OU fans after they got shithammered...FANS...much like King is calling out all buckeye fans and such...

i am not in a good fucking mood right now...FUCK!

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:15 am

i ain't calling anybody out. last weekend every tOSU fan was unanimous it was "the right call". it's a fact. go look at the thread. that's all i said, and you knee jerk about it.

and YOU are calling me a homer?

T1B

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