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Since most here don't even step to their local bowling alleys, I don't think you've got much to worry about.
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Did you at least drop the kiddie bumpers for the last frame?

Ahh..congrats Wags. And it IS a sport, heck, they have it on ESPN.
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Mister Bushice wrote:Since most here don't even step to their local bowling alleys, I don't think you've got much to worry about.
Last time I bowled was about ten years ago. I was never more than a casual bowler and probably averaged somewhere around 130 over my life. One night I tossed a 220-something and vowed never to bowl again. It's not like I was ever going to top that.
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Mississippi Neck wrote:And it IS a sport, heck, they have it on ESPN.
It's a sport to those who try to make a living at it, that's for sure. And trust me, Pro-Bowlers are athletes. The qualifying rounds these guys go thru is absolutely grueling. 43 games over 2-3 days trying to make it to that TV final. Only the strong survive. My arm would fall off.

But the great thing about bowling to me is that for any one game or 3 game series, you can be just as good as some of the best in the world. I think that's cool. I'm just a week-end hacker, but man do I love crashing 10 pins. This is a game you can play, and play well, at any age. The scariest match-up any team of young bucks ever have to face is some team made up of two treacherous old men and two little old biddies intent on schooling you. With the 80% handicap most leagues use, they'll take your beer money and laugh in between shots of geritol.
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Dinsdale wrote:Norm Duke
Norm Duke was a decent enough pro and made a sackful of money on the PBA tour. But dude reminded too much of Jeff Gordon, the little prancing fairy.

Betcher buddy never beat "Dead-Eye".

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For those who don't know whom the Babe Ruth of bowling is, that's Walter Ray Williams, the all time leading money winner on the PBA tour and quite a fine horseshoe pitcher as well.

Dude is still out there at age 46 after 25 years on the circuit.
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I'm not sure what the measure of BODE is when it comes to bowling, but I'm gonna go ahead presume the Upper Midwest owns it to the tune of...absolute certainty.

Many of you can engage in a variety of outdoor activities throughout the winter months, but up here when there's two feet of snow on the ground, fat greasy guys named Chet have literally nothing better to do than bowl when their shift ends at the local _____ factory.
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Congrats on the 300 Wags - I think I may have had 5 strikes in a row once.

What is amazing now is how fucking much it costs to go bowling now. I took the kids to the AMF one day during spring break and it was like $3.75 per game and another $4 to rent shoes.

Shit - by the time I'd bought 'em a couple cokes the tab for 2 games was over $40. For that much I should have just taken 'em to the arcade. Best deal in bowling now is the Lunar Bowl out here in BS - Friday night cosmic bowl is $65 for 3 hours including shoes if you do the 6-9 session. The kids like the music, blacklights and videos and the wife and I kill a couple pitchers. I'm bad, but I still seem to roll about 140 avg. for the three games we get in.
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$3.75 per game
I thought you were "well into seven figures?"
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I assign certain values to certain things. $14 per family of 4 per game + another $12 for shoes at a shitty AMF fucks up that value proposition.
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Part of me says "Bowling = :D "
Another part of me says that anyone capable of perfection in anything is worthy of some praise.

Torn...

Ah, screw it. Props to WW for that accomplishment.
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Congrats on the perfect game, WW.

I used to bowl in an after-midnight restaurant league when I was in college. My average was 170 or something, but we mainly went for the beer and to blow off some steam. I still remember when I finally broke 200 playing in that league. 300 is a very tough thing to do, even if you're bowling three or four times a week and are fairly decent.
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2 "RF's" giving me props in a row... I'm on a roll. Excuse the pun.

Thanks, fellers.

I know it's no big deal to anyone else, but it sure was to me. 99% of bowlers will never do that.

Scott, look in the sports page tomorrow. That awesome fuck who shot the 814 last week will also be listed.

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I hate bowling, and bowlers are not athletes, but I gotta give props to Whitey for rolling a 300. Something about blind pigs and acorns comes to mind, but damn, he’s our blind pig, and that’s a dozen fucking acorns.

And I’d love to hear about BSmack’s personal “pinnacle of athletic achievement”. Probably involved Cheetos and Kleenex.
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Goober McTuber wrote:I hate bowling, and bowlers are not athletes, but I gotta give props to Whitey for rolling a 300. Something about blind pigs and acorns comes to mind, but damn, he’s our blind pig, and that’s a dozen fucking acorns.

And I’d love to hear about BSmack’s personal “pinnacle of athletic achievement”. Probably involved Cheetos and Kleenex.
My game is golf. So far my “pinnacle of athletic achievement” is holing out from 150 yards on a par four for an eagle 2.

I've dropped a few within 5 feet on par 3s, but that hole in one still eludes me.

Back when my swing was more Dinsdalian, I used to poke the occasional 300 yarder. Ah, the ravages of time.
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Well, I’d give Whitey the advantage in terms of achievement then.
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MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:I'm not sure what the measure of BODE is when it comes to bowling, but I'm gonna go ahead presume the Upper Midwest owns it to the tune of...absolute certainty.

The first three guys to ever make a million+ on the PBA are from which state?


I'll give you a hint -- their names might be Earl Anthony(I met Earl before he died...Bowling Dave and Earl used to go some rounds...Earl didn't like the fact the guy who dominated his "house" and his students had long hair and was obviously stoned all of the time), Marshall Holman, and Dave Husted.


There's absolutely no discussion of which state/region has bowlingbode. Not that I'm proud of that or anything...



I haven't seen Bowling Dave in a while. Last I saw, he was still making a very meager living on the PBA. How the mighty have fallen...he used to make FAT coin as an ameteur, just playing regional tournies and his 3 pro-ams a year(or whatever he was allowed while remaining am). Since all of those people "in-the-know," including the PBA scouts that literally followed him from tourney to tourney considered him THE best bowler on the planet...BAR NONE, at the time...


Whitey, since you're familiar with The Duke -- Dave gunned him down when Duke was on "the greatest roll in history" or whatever they called that. He won the Masters, then had won 11 freaking weekends straight leading up to his defense of his Masters title(I wanna say that was 1993 or 1994?). I actually gave Dave a ride to the airport to go to...wherever the Master was that year, Mobile, I think...and I asked Dave if he was going to win it. "No, this time around, the Masters is a battle for second. Norm Duke is playing the greatest streak of bowling in the history of the sport right now **Pulls current bowling magazine from carry-on bag, with Dukes pic on the cover**. He'll be unbeatable, but a second-place check is still nice."


I'm guessing diehard bowling fans remember that show that Duke put on in the mid-90's.(Duke always PWN3D! the PBA event that's held here...just has a sick record at Hollywood Lanes....which always pissed Dave off, since he often played a league there).


And out of the 480 entrants in the Masters, who do you think Dave managed to draw in the very forst match of the tourney(which is double-elimination)?


You guessed'er.

When asked how that went, Dave simply replied "Yeah, I sent his ass to the losers braket. Duke actually had a tough round...but quite frankly, it wouldn't have mattered if he'd brought his A game...I couldn't miss, and nobody on the planet could have beat me that first series."(I think he went 800 or something).

Then apparently, he got a little too buzzed before the finals. Choked a few shots on the last day, and walked away with 8th...and he was really freaking disappointed. But got a check for like $8500 for a few days casual work...so he wasn't bitching too much.


But, bowling was all Dave ever knew(dysfuntional family and whatnot). Dude's right hand is SEVERELY deformed from 20 years of nonstop bowling...kind of gross, actually. So Dave decided he wanted to live a more "normal" life, and bowling took a back seat. He got some corporate job(in SoCal. Before that, he was one of my closest friends, but he was hard to keep track of after he moved...sidenote -- he said the level of competition in SoCal was a joke...something SoCals should wear as a badge of honor), and settled down with some little honey, and sobered up. Then, out of the blue, his wife left him one day...and it was booze-and-bowling time again. After about a 10 year hiatus, he told the PBA he was finally ready to sign their deal(in his younger days, the PBA wanted to make Dave their new "face of the game" and promote him heavily, like he was the "Tiger Woods of Bowling" or something....and no, that's no bullshit).


And since that day, he's never recaptured the magic of his younger days. I think he struggles to even keep his PBA card these days(and he can't go back to ameteur status for 7 years after playing his last PBA/pro event....which makes it PBA or nothing as far as his pro bowling career goes, which is why he would never sign up before).


Somewhere in there, there's a lesson about grabbing that brass ring when it shows itself without hesitation, since it may never come around again. I watched a very lucrative bowling career go down the drain, due to taking one's opportunities for granted. But we've probably all been "that guy" at one time or another, although maybe not to that extreme of a degree.
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Gotta weigh in with props WW. Hell, that's gotta be as much mental as skill driven.

Hey I dated a chick...errr...woman, waaaaaayyyyy back in the day that used to bowl in a league.
This gal was a HS cheerleader that I was infatuated with, like 91% of the male pop. in our school. I assume the other 9% were gay.
Anyways she was divorced about the same time as I was in the early 90's and we hooked up.
She proceeded to kick my ass everytime she drug me to the local alley.
I was humiliated, I was a better late night baller than an early evening bowler.
I think she liked it that way.
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Dinsdale wrote:
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:I'm not sure what the measure of BODE is when it comes to bowling, but I'm gonna go ahead presume the Upper Midwest owns it to the tune of...absolute certainty.
The first three guys to ever make a million+ on the PBA are from which state?

I'll give you a hint -- their names might be Earl Anthony(I met Earl before he died...Bowling Dave and Earl used to go some rounds...Earl didn't like the fact the guy who dominated his "house" and his students had long hair and was obviously stoned all of the time), Marshall Holman, and Dave Husted.
You've forgetting New York boy Mark Roth.

Watch him pick the 7-10 for the first time ever on television.

[video width=425 height=350]http://www.youtube.com/v/gPllVnruRAc[/video]

Mark Roth also has bode on Earl Anthony for NOT killing himself by falling down the stairs.

At least not yet.
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BSmack wrote:You've forgetting New York boy Mark Roth.
Yeah, he was definitely in there mixing it up with Anthony and Holman back in the "Glory Days" of the PBA.


Watch him pick the 7-10 for the first time ever on television.
Bowling Dave was allegedly the first guy to throw a pin up far enough to bust out the lane light on TV...but that was a local/regional broadcast, not a national one(was in the Portland Masters, IIRC, with none other than Earl Anthony doing to commentary....which watching the videotape, inspired Dave to say "Wow, Earl actually said something nice about me -- he's never done that before, and I've known him since I was a kid."). Any time you bust off the Big Shot on TV, you're oozing style.


Mark Roth also has bode on Earl Anthony for NOT killing himself by falling down the stairs.


For that matter, so do you and I...although I'm holding out hope for you.
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A quick search driven by curiosity of the PBA website shows Dave having finished 112th in the 2004 Masters...I guess he's not completely dead yet.
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BSmack wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:I hate bowling, and bowlers are not athletes, but I gotta give props to Whitey for rolling a 300. Something about blind pigs and acorns comes to mind, but damn, he’s our blind pig, and that’s a dozen fucking acorns.

And I’d love to hear about BSmack’s personal “pinnacle of athletic achievement”. Probably involved Cheetos and Kleenex.
My game is golf. So far my “pinnacle of athletic achievement” is holing out from 150 yards on a par four for an eagle 2.

I've dropped a few within 5 feet on par 3s, but that hole in one still eludes me.

Back when my swing was more Dinsdalian, I used to poke the occasional 300 yarder. Ah, the ravages of time.
I actually hit the ball into the hole on a 155 yard par 3. Problem was that the ball bounced out of said hole and didn't stay in there. I ended up two putting for par.

I still never got an official ruling on that. I don't think it was a hole in one because it didn't stay in the cup but I've never bothered to check.
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Rack Fu wrote:I actually hit the ball into the hole on a 155 yard par 3. Problem was that the ball bounced out of said hole and didn't stay in there. I ended up two putting for par.

I still never got an official ruling on that. I don't think it was a hole in one because it didn't stay in the cup but I've never bothered to check.

Without looking up the USGA rule...


That's an ace, bro.


Think of the bottom of the cup as the goal line in football. If you fumble the ball at the moment it crosses the goal line, it's a TD. Once the ball breaks the plane, the play is officially over, and whatever happens next is moot.


Same dealio when a ball touches the bottom of the cup. It's holed, and nothing that happens after that matters.

But...the ball must have touched the bottom of the cup, which usually happens with a high lofty shot(like you'd hammer from 155). If it rattles off the flag and out, tough pahtootie. But if it actually is verified that it touched the bottom of the cup, it's in.
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Dinsdale wrote:
Rack Fu wrote:I actually hit the ball into the hole on a 155 yard par 3. Problem was that the ball bounced out of said hole and didn't stay in there. I ended up two putting for par.

I still never got an official ruling on that. I don't think it was a hole in one because it didn't stay in the cup but I've never bothered to check.
Without looking up the USGA rule...

That's an ace, bro.

Think of the bottom of the cup as the goal line in football. If you fumble the ball at the moment it crosses the goal line, it's a TD. Once the ball breaks the plane, the play is officially over, and whatever happens next is moot.

Same dealio when a ball touches the bottom of the cup. It's holed, and nothing that happens after that matters.

But...the ball must have touched the bottom of the cup, which usually happens with a high lofty shot(like you'd hammer from 155). If it rattles off the flag and out, tough pahtootie. But if it actually is verified that it touched the bottom of the cup, it's in.
Sorry Dins, the ball must come to rest at the bottom of the hole.
Holed- A ball is “Holed’’ when it is at rest within the circumference of the hole and all of it is below the level of the lip of the hole.

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Well....I said I wasn't looking it up.

I've been misinformed.


But that definition makes a lot more sense to me.



But we should now probably focus on Fu hitting the hole...and two-putting...

What a loser.
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Dinsdale wrote: I've been misinformed.
You said a mouthful.

Freaking sig material.

But that definition makes a lot more sense to me.
Now it does, eh?
But we should now probably focus on Fu hitting the hole...and two-putting...
Nah, let's focus instead on you spouting off at the mouth about something you knew nothing about, again. That'd be more fun. And you're supposedly an avid golfer? Dude, I've golfed about 3 times in my life, and even I knew that.

Here's something you probably didn't know as well, dumbsdale. When a bowling ball goes in the gutter and bounces out and hits some pins, that doesn't count either.

See, you've now learned two new things today. Bet you don't feel near as ignorant now.

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War Wagon wrote:
Dinsdale wrote: I've been misinformed.
You said a mouthful.

Freaking sig material.
Not so fast there, WW. You act like he actually admitted to his error. Not the case. As you can clearly see, dins merely projected fault onto someone/something else. He was simply the conduit through which misinformation was passed, much like terrible post after terrible post through the colon that roach is. So, while he clearly said,
That's an ace, bro
... he didn't really mean it. Someone else meant it. Dins, always w/the loophole within arm's reach, has an out.
The best part was when he justified the hole in one with his errrr... the other person's comparison of the rules of football and golf. You know... how the both of those sports' ancestry has its roots in the same region of Scotland and to this day, the rules of both closely parallel each other. Bet ya' didn't know that you could drop kick a golf ball from off the green and into the hole, did ya? At least that's what someone else told me.
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Good going Wags.

I can honestly say I've rolled a 300 series before.

That's impressive too, right?





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Ken wrote: You act like he actually admitted to his error.
The Houdini act is admission enough. I get a kick out of watching him run away from a thread in which he's getting spanked, only to show up in another acting like it didn't just happen.
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War Wagon wrote:I get a kick out of watching him run away from a thread in which he's getting spanked, only to show up in another acting like it didn't just happen.
Yeah, isn't the internet great?
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War Wagon wrote:The Houdini act is admission enough. I get a kick out of watching him run away from a thread in which he's getting spanked, only to show up in another acting like it didn't just happen.

Wow.


Just...wow.


Your retardation knows no bounds.


Since you need something...anything to hang your hat on around here, I guess I can understand your skewed view of things. If that's what gets you through your day, then so be it.

Of course, you don't seem to grasp the concept that I walk away from many, many threads in here...all of them, to be exact.

Despite your rampant desire to get over on...something, you'd probably be displaying a little better grasp on reality if you realized that usually when I stop posting in a particular thread, it's generally due to boredom. Or, it's often because I see your nic as the last one to post...which is generally a death sentence to any thread.


Your theory has so many flaws, it's laughable (like your idiocy). Not the least of which is that I'm so freaking internet-arrogant, it's fucking retarded to assume I've EVER felt I was "getting spanked" in any thread I've ever posted in...there is THAT.


But not to you, TardlyWagon...you're willing to look past obvious facts such as these, in that perpetually fruitless quest to "get over"...on anything.


And that being the case, instead of getting clowned by the likes of mwe and...everyone else who has ever posted here, maybe you should start by getting over on some freon and fenceposts.


Stupid bottom dweller.
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Dinsdale wrote:I'm so freaking internet-arrogant...
No Way! Really? Whoda' thunk it?

And I'm here to stick a pin in that overinflated ballon of an internet alter-ego that you're so foolishly proud of.
...that perpetually fruitless quest to "get over"...on anything.
Nope. That's not how I do bidness. Do you see me joining in on Sissroo pile-ons, or any pile-on for that matter, trying to simply get over those weaker than me? At the risk of giving you further IKWYABWAI over-used and under-rated ammo, that's your lame M.O. I try to treat people with respect and courtesy, until such time as they show they don't deserve it by being assholes. You're an asshole and don't deserve any courtesy or respect. You deserve to have your face rubbed in shit everytime that you speak out of turn. I'm here to do it.

Face it Dinsypoo. You're an utter failure in real life, and try to over-compensate for this by acting like something you're not on the web. "Getting over" (what an idiotic term, btw) on you is rather easy since you make such a large and inviting target of yourself constantly.

You love to dish out the denigrating abuse, but lawdy laws, you simply can't stand having that same abuse shoved right back down your own gaping maw. You're fragile man, and want to be handled with care.

Try ignoring me again when I go off on your little candy ass. It might work this time.
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War Wagon wrote:Do you see me joining in on Sissroo pile-ons, or any pile-on for that matter?

No. While you're a complete fucking moron, you're at least smart enough to realize that if you even tried, the pile-on would be diverted right on to you so quickly, it'd make your head spin.


At least Cicero revels in, and enjoys his role as Supreme Tard. He even offers up ammo as such.

But you? You actually think you're part of the "non-tard-crowd," which makes your "efforts" all the more funny.



BTW -- you used my personal nickname for Cicero, which one would assume was used in the stead of his real nic to be demeaning. So yes, you just joined an ongoing Dins-initiated pile-on of my man Sissyroo. Nice job.





BTW - consider yourself ignored. Your drivel is tiresome to the point of unreadability. And I won't be granting you a reprieve from the ignore-policy nearly as quickly as I have in the past.


Because you really do suck that badly.
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Dinsdale wrote:you're at least smart enough to realize that if you even tried, the pile-on would be diverted right on to you so quickly, it'd make your head spin.
By who? You?

The last refuge of posers is thinking that they speak for anyone else. I've been piled-on, and I shrug 'em off like the harmless little brats they are. The fact that you even go to the pile-on card speaks volumes about your own fragile ego, and how much you need it pumped up by others.

I don't engage in pile-ons because I'm not a pussy who needs that to make myself feel better by such. You, on the other hand, need constant reinforcement from others. With-out, you'd wither and die... or head to the mod forum and threaten to leave if such and such didn't happen to suit your whims.
BTW - consider yourself ignored. Your drivel is tiresome to the point of unreadability.
But... you said I was funny?

Wait, what you really meant was that you can't stand having me throw your bullshit right back in your face, and will instead take the cowards way out.

Good for you. I tire of you also. But when I see you acting like an ASS again, I won't ignore you.
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Dinsdale wrote:Well....I said I wasn't looking it up.

I've been misinformed.


But that definition makes a lot more sense to me.



But we should now probably focus on Fu hitting the hole...and two-putting...

What a loser.
Normally, I have no problem watching a Dins pile-on but c'mon guys... he was just giving me some friendly ribbing.

For the record: it was an 8 iron shot, teed up high to get more loft. That ball went up and came straight down, slid down the last two feet or so of the flag and hit the bottom of the cup with enough force that the ball bounced about 12 feet high out of the cup and rolled down a slope in the green. It ended up 25 feet from the hole, hence the two putt.

I also hit the flag on the same hole about two days later... and once again two putted.

It was the 7th hole here: http://www.lochmere.com/index.htm
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That's a pretty hefty 8-iron... for most of those not carrying a PGA tour card, that is. I assume you weren't playing from the championship tees thus leaving the blues and whites (172, 158 yds respectively). My guess is that the average 8-iron for the everyday amateur is somewhere around 130-135 yds.

Of course, the dinsdalian among us will regale us with tales of 170 yd, lazy 8-irons. But he's not human, this we know. Except of course when it comes to the rules of golf, meteorology, and saving millions of dollars worth of fruit from sub-freezing temperatures. In these cases, clearly he's full of horse shit.
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btw, there's much better ways to obtain a higher trajectory on your iron shots than teeing the ball higher. These would include, but are not limited to positioning the ball more forward in your stance and/or opening the clubface a hair.
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Ken wrote:That's a pretty hefty 8-iron... for most of those not carrying a PGA tour card, that is. I assume you weren't playing from the championship tees thus leaving the blues and whites (172, 158 yds respectively). My guess is that the average 8-iron for the everyday amateur is somewhere around 130-135 yds.
135 is about my average 8 iron carry these days. But back when I used to swing from the hip, a 150 yard 8 iron was fairly average. And, with a nice tailwind or a downhill shot, 160 was fairly attainable. Of course, back then I was playing blades. Now I'm working with a set of Tommy Armour 845 cavity backs that give me a whole lot more forgiveness but a lot less distance.
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BSmack wrote:
Ken wrote:That's a pretty hefty 8-iron... for most of those not carrying a PGA tour card, that is. I assume you weren't playing from the championship tees thus leaving the blues and whites (172, 158 yds respectively). My guess is that the average 8-iron for the everyday amateur is somewhere around 130-135 yds.
135 is about my average 8 iron carry these days. But back when I used to swing from the hip, a 150 yard 8 iron was fairly average. And, with a nice tailwind or a downhill shot, 160 was fairly attainable. Of course, back then I was playing blades. Now I'm working with a set of Tommy Armour 845 cavity backs that give me a whole lot more forgiveness but a lot less distance.
That's abot what my 8-iron carry is too. If I g-spot it, I could probably eek out another 5.
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