Realistic Picks for SEC Teams W-L in 2008

[Dinsdale]

Maybe my memory of a couplefew months ago has grown a little hazy, but didn't Arkansas play in the SEC championship?(Even though they got KILLED in their own house by USC...must have been that gruelling SEC schedule from the year before that wore them out for opening day...that'll teach them to play a D1A OOC)



Sam...just stay down, bro...really.

[Ken]

Is there a reason you tried rounding up the SEC troops from over there, SS?

Of course, the biggest SEC homer on the interwebs, JSC, has this to say over there:

I've already seen the thread, didn't post because you were doing a fine job of representing the SEC.

Not only can you find JSC dangling from the hairy ballsacks of each SEC team, but you can also find 'im muzzling up to SEC fans' hairy taints too.

[SEC Ballsucking Homer]

Of course, the biggest SEC homer on the interwebs, JSC,

Surely you jest.

If you can't step to me, don't step at all.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Maybe my memory of a couplefew months ago has grown a little hazy, but didn't Arkansas play in the SEC championship?

What don't you comprehend? Conference record and who they beat head to head DOES NOT MATTER! All that matters is what all my neighbors say about Arkansas and WE ALL SAY THEY'RE NO GOOD! What don't you get about this?

-Surely Damned

[buckeye_in_sc]

honestly it could be this simple:

tOSU lost to UF
UF lost to Auburn
Auburn lost to GA
GA lost to Vandy
Vandy lost to U Mich
U Mich lost to tOSU

so in reality tOSU is the National Champion

how come Arkansas is now the 4th or 5th best team??? I mean didn't they win the SEC West? Weren't they 11-1 or something like that going into the SEC championship game? Weren't they also mentioned as one loss possibilities for the MNC game depending on outcomes?

Now look FLA was a great team and they played awesome on Jan 8th...but where I draw the line is people like Sam who discount everything tOSU did this year based on that game...I bought into the hype, blah, blah blah...let's see tOSU started the season NUMBER FUCKING ONE for a reason right??? Then they continued to beat who was on their schedule and they couldn't control the Big 10 Schedule...and wa la they suck??? So that means EVERY FUCKING #1 team that has lost in the MNC game or whatever is shit? Lest we forget that the Big 10 did have a 2-1 record against your beloved SEC...or are you now going to the card of Arkansas sucked and Tenn was not that good?

This argument is tired man...give it a rest...you sound like ACC fan in hoops...

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

What I still love about this thread is how Sam still does not understand how he has kicked his own ass by claiming how weak Arkansas is...the very team that represented in the championship game of the greatest conference on earth.

What does that really say about the SEC if mediocre teams are playing for your titles?

[buckeye_in_sc]

and that very Arkansas team that lost to Wisconsin...you know the Wisconsin from the slow Big 10...you know the Wisconsin that had like NEGATIVE yards in the 3rd quarter of that game...

you know the Wisconsin that blows monkey spunk because they are from the Big 10...

trust me I hear this shit all the time in Charlotte...between that and ACC hoops...FUCK ME...

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

and that very Arkansas team that lost to Wisconsin...you know the Wisconsin from the slow Big 10...you know the Wisconsin that had like NEGATIVE yards in the 3rd quarter of that game...

you know the Wisconsin that blows monkey spunk because they are from the Big 10...

trust me I hear this shit all the time in Charlotte...between that and ACC hoops...FUCK ME...

Well, Wisconsin won that game because the SEC only had their 5th best team represented. Had they sent someone like Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, or Mississippi St who are all clearly better than Arkansas because everybody in the south says so, they would have rolled.

-Downtrodden Sam

[ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2]

Firing up a thread at .Net enlisting SEC "Utter and Complete Tard" help from the likes of REBDOG and shutyomouth is one of the saddest things I've ever seen on these boards.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Yeah, I bet that comment was in reference to OOC scheduling too.

Dumbass.

[SoCalTrjn]

I think the Corndogs beat Arkansas and the Pigs went to the SEC title game at 10-2. They were still SEC West champs even if they were slaughtered in their own park by a soft Pac 10 team

[Dinsdale]

I invited them to observe y'all melting completely.

Uhm...when everyone else in the whole wide world EXCEPT YOU is "melting"...



You might want to rethink things.

Just sayin'.


And your new defense is "we sent a shitty team to our conference championship"?

Huh?


Uhm...might wanna rethink that one, too...unless you're actually trying to provide more fodder for the already massive(and well-deserved) SEC pile-on.

[Dinsdale]

Cycles. That's all it is.

OK, I'll buy that excuse. But really, Sam -- I thought you were old enough that you already went through the "change of life."


You and your SEC bretheren should look into some Midol or something to combat these "cycles."

[buckeye_in_sc]

so by that logic if Tenn was better than Arkansas who finished basically 2nd in the SEC does that mean PSU the 4th best team in the Big 10 is 2nd best in the SEC?

sam...you based OSU as being weak on ONE game much like you are talking about won/loss records...

dude I never said FLA wasn't any good but for you to sit there and say a 12-1 team is shitty is laughable...so if tOSU is shitty at 12-1 what does LSU at 11-2 or whatever rank? Who did LSU beat? They lost to your admitedly weak FLA, scraped by OLE MISS, scraped by Tenn (yeah that same Tenn team that got bitch slapped by PSU), and they got a great matchup for them at home against ND in the Sugar Bowl...plus they scored a whopping 3 points against Auburn...WOW...

I also seem to remember Arkansas taking Auburn behind the shed when Auburn was ranked #2...so Arkansas must be pretty good no?


sam if you would have read any posts on past subjects and I don't expect you to remember them...but I made no bones that I hated tOSU's 2007 schedule...but we had Syracuse and Washington lined up b2b and signed many years ago...Cuse dropped the game and then the NCAA gave the 12th game...hey I wish they could find some one better than YSU...but again I made no bones about that...but tOSU is showing the FUCKING BALLS like USC to go on the FUCKING ROAD for BIG TIME NON CON GAMES...

already played Texas
08/09 USC
10/11 Miami of FLA
12/13 CAL
14/15 Va Tech
16/17 Oklahoma...

so these are all home and homes with those schools...when was the last time FLA left FLA to play a non con game? when was the last time outside of ASU and Va Tech that LSU played anyone worth a damn...heck LSU has played as many creampuffs and 1-AA schools as the rest of them...

and don't kid yourself about the Big 10 this year...tOSU will be at best the 4th or 5th best team while returning a good bit of talent they will be behind U Mich, PSU, Sconsin, and potentially Iowa or ILL...so to answer your question yes the Big 10 slate looks pretty tough...

[Cornhusker]

Is bradhusker one of your college football experts in here? I don't drop in here too often, so I don't know who's considered knowledgeable and not.

Sam, you can't honestly mean this!

If you've read only one of brad's takes, you'd know damn good and well he's reeks of Ridilan.[sp]

That's his charm.

[buckeye_in_sc]

Sam I know about BAMA and OU and TENN/ND...but MSU...come on that is like me saying Northwestern went to play Pitt or some shit...

ok you said Arkansas was not very good I maintain they were to have beaten Auburn at Auburn and make the SEC championship game...

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

So what's Ohio State's excuse for playing Youngstown State, Akron and Kent State in '07? That tough Big Ten slate? BWAHAHAHAHA.

They're not searching for excuses like you. If their OOC schedule sucks, OSUFan will admit it and say that it's not acceptable. You aren't doing that. That's the whole fucking point here, douchebag. Still haven't figured that out yet? They're actually going to exude this thing called "class," and admit it's unacceptable instead of trying to justify why they should play cupcakes.

See why you're getting cracked on yet by everybody up and down in this thread? Too bad your buddies you went crying to didn't come over to give you a hand. I guess they saw how far a hole you dug yourself and wanted no part of it.

By the way, you say you "need" to play these teams. Why the fuck would anybody really "need" to play a Northwestern Louisiana Tech? How sad is it that you're attempting to hype that game up as important in some way? God, the pussification is pathetic.

One more time, if you're as badass as you say you are, it wouldn't seem to make a difference if you're playing Slippery Rock or Texas. I mean, you're the best, right? So what's the fucking problem, exactly? Not afraid of losing, are you? You still have yet to address that question from me, and I don't expect you to directly.

But anyway, just so you know...OSU was a baaaad example to use, buddy. We're talking a team who has played/will play home and homes with Texas and USC. Baaaaad example, dude. Damn. Of all the teams to cherry pick, you made the wrong choice.

And how the fuck was Arkansas worse than Tennessee when they kicked their ass head-to-head and had a better record? Fuck, if we're not going by results on the football field, what else are we going by? What your neighbor Dale told you three houses down with the plywood siding? That makes no fucking sense.

y'all melting completely

Ahh, yes, the calling card of the defeated. Take that shit to .net, that doesn't fly here.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Funny thing is, Sam's got an A-Bomb of an argument he could use and end this whole fucking thread with one post. One sentence even.

But he won't be smart enough to figure out what it is, and instead, he'll keep tripping all over his dick in here like he's done since page 1.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Is that not good enough for you?

That's fine by me. Quite frankly, you could have high school teams on your OOC schedules and I'd leave you alone as long as you stopped acting like it's necessary for you to play them. It isn't. It just flat out isn't. Your conference is very good and competitive, but not so great that you need to play these shit games and the other conferences don't. That's pure bullshit, and you know it. That remains to be the whole point here, and it's why people are laughing at you.

[SoCalTrjn]

Oh, so now all you losers are saying that the won-lost record determines how good a team is? Hmmmmm...so if Arkansas or Ohio State or whoever is 11-0, but all those wins came against patsies, they're still great? Stupid, stupid, stupid.

If an SEC teams only wins of note are vs other SEC teams whos only wins of note are vs other SEC teams.....stupid. stupid. stupid

You just killed your entire SEC homer arguement.
in Arkansas only games vs non SEC opponents they got Tea bagged at home by USC and beaten in a bowl game by Wisconsin. You cant count their wins and losses vs SEC teams since none of the SEC teams they beat managed to beat any team outside of the SEC that had any merrit.
OOC and bowl games are the only way to determine a conferences relative strength, when the SEC is collectively scared to play any OOC games that require them to get on an airplane, you have taken the majority of chances to determine conference strength away.


If SEC teams are so superior to everyone else, they they should have no problem playing 6 road games and in places like Pullman, WA; Madison, WI or Eugene, OR even in November, unless theyre not as good as SEC fan thinks they are

To those outside the SEC and looking at the conference unbiasedly you see the holes in the SEC honks arguement. The teams have 4 OOC gimmes at home, then they have 2 or 3 games vs in-conf crap and theyre 6-0 or 7-0 and havent played anyone, they play 3 games vs middle of the road teams in that conference and 1 or 2 vs great teams in that conference, either way the team has 6+ gimmes every single year. They compound their soft opponents by ONLY playing those games at home just to make extra special sure that they are not challenged.
Let the NCAA make all of the schools schedules, everyone plays 6 road and 6 home games and at least 2 OOC games vs BCS level teams every year, then we will know what conf is the best, nothing else will give you that answer

[Dinsdale]

When Oregon plays Portland State, they don't excuse it with "we NEEDED to do that to combat the rigors of the PAC10 schedule" -- they actually tell the truth, and let everyone know they wanted to keep some money in-state.

It doesn't make doing it any less cupcakey, but at least a legitimate excuse is given. I'm OK with D! teams putting one powderpuff game on the schedule, so long as it's with an in-state wannabe rival, and they don't come up with a cheesey, dishonest reason why. If tOSU was scrounging for a last-minute schedule-filler, props to them for giving a smaller in-state program the dough. There's always a bigger financial picture than what we'd love to see materialize in Fantasyland. No excuse for making your entire OOC schedule that way, though.

[Dinsdale]

And the "the SEC was down last year, because there was no dominant team" sucks huge ass, too.


Did you actually watch any football?

I HATE the SEC with an extreme passion, but I saw several teams that flat-out got it on. LSU was money on D, Tenn looked pretty good, Auburn killed some fools, and Florida doesn't need the likes of me to rate their season for them...speaks for itself.


If one team doesn't run away with it, that would lead a sensible person to believe that it's a balanced conference, with a whole bunch of tough teams...and the SEC I saw play last year, was one of the better top-to-bottom conferences I've seen in recent memory...great football.

Not sure where the "Florida was no good" argument comes from. Yet, come Bowl Season and OOC games, none of the top-tier SEC teams was invincible...so, where does that leave your argument?


Time for the SEC to stop doing so much with their mouths, and start letiing their game do all the talking...


Like this last season, which resulted in SEC-BODE, last I checked. And if the SEC wasn't such complete pussies, they might find their way into the championship game every year, instead of having pollsters say "they played who?" while leaving them out in the cold.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Hey one of you smart guys who knows all about college football and stuff look at that and figure out which conference is best represented, tia.

And those rankings have exactly what to do with OOC schedules, JSC? Nobody's even arguing the SEC wasn't the best overall conference last year, dumbass. Have you even read the thread?

We're debating fine points of a specific topic here related to OOC scheduling. If you don't have the ability to participate, then shut the fuck up.

[Dinsdale]

JSC...you're a dumbass. As the season drew to a close, I think there was near-universal agreement that the SEC was the best conference in 2006.

But with that, you get into the whole "boy who cried wolf" thing, since the SEC honks claim it's the best conference even in years they get trounced OOC by Citidel...or whoever you clowns play OOC.


Then again, according to Sam, the SEC was down this year. Maybe you Ballsucking Homers should huddle up and get your stories straight before you make your excuses why you schedule pussies.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

The SEC will settle for being the best conference overall. Damn.

But don't you have a favorite team in every conference?

The SEC is quality, no doubt.

The best in some years? Without question.

They're actually tied with the Big Ten in bowl games in the last 10 years...13-13. So as good as the SEC is, this HUGE disparity in talent and victories you guys always talk about just flat out doesn't exist. Maybe against the ACC it does.

Like I said, win close to 100% of your bowl games and I'll say you deserve your god-like status and should be able to schedule cupcakes without ridicule. But when you're hovering around .500 against the Big 10 and even Big12, then you're pretty fucking much on par with the rest of the country, and shouldn't get the free pass you think you oh so richly deserve. Get over yourselves.

[buckeye_in_sc]

In JSC's example...

Big 10 3 teams - tOSU, Wisconsin, and U Mich
SEC 3 teams - FLA, LSU, Auburn
Big East 2 teams - WVU and Louisville....


so to answer your question the Big 10 and SEC followed by the Big East...but the gap is not as wide as SEC HONK would think...

oh and the Big 10's record the last couple of years against the SEC in bowls 3-2 so I guess Bode Big 10???

2006 Outback FLA beat Iowa
2006 Cap One Sconsin beat Auburn
2007 Outback PSU beat UT
2007 Cap One Sconsin beat Arkansas
2007 BCS FLA beat tOSU

BODE Big 10?