At least 34 dead at VaTech {G}

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:38 pm

AP reporting gunman kills 21 on Blacksburg campus. CNN says more than 20 ...

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MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:40 pm

Marcus Vick must be back on campus.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:41 pm

Someone has a case of the Mondays.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:48 pm

This carnage will make Columbine pale in comparison.

Did douchebag and his sidekick enigmabag start the tour early?

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:53 pm

That's tasteless, Wags - but rack you for getting to it first, and for being ever-vigilant like Cuda at a sack-nuzzling extravaganza

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:55 pm

War Wagon wrote:This carnage will make Columbine pale in comparison.

Did douchebag and his sidekick enigmabag start the tour early?

naah. that woulda been 2 dead or prolly just beat senseless.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:57 pm

AP reporting gunman kills 21

Well, I'm not going to up and just accept his count. It's bound to waver some

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:57 pm

smackaholic wrote:
War Wagon wrote:This carnage will make Columbine pale in comparison.

Did douchebag and his sidekick enigmabag start the tour early?
naah. that woulda been 2 dead or prolly just beat senseless.

You mean just beaten. Beating them senseless would be the ultimate example of a 2x4 to a dead horse one could possibly imagine.

Besides, there were no pooka shells found on scene?

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:09 pm

All joking aside, this is some pretty unreal and fucked up shit that went down. Almost like a military commando type raid... against innocent kids.

I can just imagine the sheer panic that parents of students at VA Tech must be feeling right now, wondering if it was their child who got caught up in this.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:11 pm

War Wagon wrote:All joking aside, this is some pretty unreal and fucked up shit that went down.

That's why we're joking about it.

I've got enough reality to deal with.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:13 pm

If all students were armed this wouldn't have happened.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:18 pm

Mikey wrote:If all students were armed this wouldn't have happened.

Exactly :twisted:

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:19 pm

Would have been nice if at least one of them besides the shooter was, eh? Might be 20 more students alive.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:23 pm

It's Bush's fault.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:24 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:It's Bush's fault.

Cheney, more likely.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:36 pm

PSUFAN wrote:
AP reporting gunman kills 21
Well, I'm not going to up and just accept his count. It's bound to waver some

It's "wander" goddamnit.

And not surprisingly somebody beat me to the blame Bush dealio. I'll bet the gas prices just increased again though.

Q, West Coast Style · Post by **Q, West Coast Style** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:37 pm

O/E on number of hours till anyone involved, victim or police, is referred to as a "hero?"

O/E on number of days till the first bagpipe rendition of "Amazing Grace?"

O/E on number of teddy bears left along fences on the VTU campus by week's end?

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:41 pm

O/E on how long it takes you to figure out it is O/U.

jtr · Post by **jtr** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:42 pm

didnt genpete live in that area?

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:42 pm

jtr wrote:didnt genpete live in that area?

this thread is now officially dead.

jtr · Post by **jtr** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:45 pm

White House deputy press secretary Dana Perino said. "His thoughts and prayers are with them."

"The president believes that there is a right for people to bear arms, but that all laws must be followed,

peter dragon · Post by **peter dragon** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:47 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:O/E on how long it takes you to figure out it is O/U.

hahahaha!

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:48 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:O/E on how long it takes you to figure out it is O/U.

Nah...Atomic Punk posted...it means "One Eye."

Q, West Coast Style · Post by **Q, West Coast Style** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:48 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:O/E on how long it takes you to figure out it is O/U.

You're a good proof reader. Send me your resume' I've been thinking of hiring another secratery.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:54 pm

3 times, man. 3 times. You lobbed the softball...

Q, West Coast Style · Post by **Q, West Coast Style** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:57 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:3 times, man. 3 times. You lobbed the softball...

You're good with numbers too. Excellent!

Anyways . . .

I wouldn't have expected Beamer's school to give the gunman so much time to sit back and fire away. I would've thought they could've gotten more pressure on the shooter.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:58 pm

[recycle]”My kid went to Virginia Tech, and all I got was this bloody t-shirt”.[/recycle]

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:02 pm

Goober McTuber wrote:[recycle]”My kid went to Virginia Tech, and all I got was this bloody t-shirt”.[/recycle]

Or pair of shorts.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:04 pm

Q, West Coast Style wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:O/E on how long it takes you to figure out it is O/U.
You're a good proof reader. Send me your resume' I've been thinking of hiring another secratery.

I hope you can find one that knows how to use speelcheck.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:05 pm

RadioFan wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:[recycle]”My kid went to Virginia Tech, and all I got was this bloody t-shirt”.[/recycle]
Or pair of shorts.

It looks like the perp is trying to escape by putting on a fake beard and a store-bought SWAT outfit.

Q, West Coast Style · Post by **Q, West Coast Style** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:09 pm

Any info on the shooter yet?

I'm gonna say, white, male, middle class, freshman. No girlfriend.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:12 pm

"The president believes that there is a right for people to bear arms, but that all laws must be followed," spokeswoman Dana Perino said

Stupid fucking statement. Lead with sympathy for the victims, not a shout to NRA lobbyists.

A rampage like this has basically nothing to do with gun control.

Voice of Reason · Post by **Voice of Reason** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:15 pm

Q, West Coast Style wrote:Any info on the shooter yet?

I'm gonna say, white, male, middle class, freshman. No girlfriend.

Asian Male, according to the earliest reports.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:17 pm

He probably turned his wrist watch in to handgun.

Voice of Reason · Post by **Voice of Reason** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:20 pm

mvscal wrote:
PSUFAN wrote:A rampage like this has basically nothing to do with gun control.
Guess again.

Gun bill gets shot down by panel
HB 1572, which would have allowed handguns on college campuses, died in subcommittee.
By Greg Esposito
381-1675

A bill that would have given college students and employees the right to carry handguns on campus died with nary a shot being fired in the General Assembly.

House Bill 1572 didn't get through the House Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety. It died Monday in the subcommittee stage, the first of several hurdles bills must overcome before becoming laws.

The bill was proposed by Del. Todd Gilbert, R-Shenandoah County, on behalf of the Virginia Citizens Defense League. Gilbert was unavailable Monday and spokesman Gary Frink would not comment on the bill's defeat other than to say the issue was dead for this General Assembly session.

Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

Del. Dave Nutter, R-Christiansburg, would not comment Monday because he was not part of the subcommittee that discussed the bill.

Most universities in Virginia require students and employees, other than police, to check their guns with police or campus security upon entering campus. The legislation was designed to prohibit public universities from making "rules or regulations limiting or abridging the ability of a student who possesses a valid concealed handgun permit ... from lawfully carrying a concealed handgun."

The legislation allowed for exceptions for participants in athletic events, storage of guns in residence halls and military training programs.

Last spring a Virginia Tech student was disciplined for bringing a handgun to class, despite having a concealed handgun permit. Some gun owners questioned the university's authority, while the Virginia Association of Chiefs of Police came out against the presence of guns on campus.

In June, Tech's governing board approved a violence prevention policy reiterating its ban on students or employees carrying guns and prohibiting visitors from bringing them into campus facilities.

http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/wb/xp-50658

That has nothing to do with today's shooting.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:20 pm

I see. A Law would have made a difference.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:22 pm

mvscal wrote:
PSUFAN wrote:A rampage like this has basically nothing to do with gun control.
Guess again.

Good to see the right wing is already trying to score cheap political points.

Besides, the idea that having armed students/faculty members would have reduced the carnage presupposes that said armed students would have been able to clearly discern the difference between the psycho gunman and the armed students returning fire. You, nor anybody else can give that assurance. Pat Tillman out front should have told you that.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:32 pm

So, in this dreamland in which college students pack heat to protect themselves, are there any other types of gun-related incidents? I'm sure all scenarios in which college students find themselves, they're wise enough to deploy their firearms safely and with discretion.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:33 pm

The fact no one had similar firepower to dispense with the threat of a psychotic didn't have anything to do with it?

Ohhhhhkay.

Violent crime rates are lower in fairly direct inverse proportion to the number of citizens with concealed weapons permits. Rates of violent crimes in any community are in inverse proportion to percentage of homes with gun ownership.

But don't let that get in the way of a good liberal, anti-Bill Of Rights rant.

Voice of Reason · Post by **Voice of Reason** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:35 pm

mvscal wrote: