If this is true...

[BSmack]

... then Mike Vick is a bigger scumbag that I already thought he was.

Initial drug investigation turns up suspected dog fighting setup on Michael Vick's property

Investigators were originally working on a suspected drug case when they went to Michael Vick's property on Wednesday. On arrival, officials surprisingly discovered a suspected dog fighting setup...

http://www.wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S= ... v=menu45_2

Seems to me like he just might be in violation of the new commissioner's personal conduct policy. Over/under on the length of the suspension? 4 games maybe?

[ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2]

Over/under on the length of the suspension? 4 games maybe?

Zero point zero games suspended will be my guess. Try reading your own link next time:

Vick does not live at the home. It is inhabited by Vick's nephew. Police said Vick does not spend much time on the property.

[BSmack]

Over/under on the length of the suspension? 4 games maybe?

Zero point zero games suspended will be my guess. Try reading your own link next time:

Vick does not live at the home. It is inhabited by Vick's nephew. Police said Vick does not spend much time on the property.

Read again dildo. Vick OWNS THE PROPERTY. That means Vick is responsible for things like say... a big fucking dog fighting farm that was operating on it. Like you yourself said, Vick does spend some time on the property. That should have been enough for him to realize what was going down. Which of course he did. And he let it happen.

[indyfrisco]

If true, he SHOULD get a fucking year.

If true, he WILL get 2 games, max.

[jiminphilly]

Zero point zero games suspended will be my guess. Try reading your own link next time:
Vick does not live at the home. It is inhabited by Vick's nephew. Police said Vick does not spend much time on the property.

Based on the the severity of the suspensions to Pacman and Chris Henry, I can easily see Goodall dropping a 1-2 game suspension on Vick.

[ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2]

Like you yourself said.

Did I? I didn't "say" one word about how often Vicks visits the property. I directly quoted from your link. It was someone else's words. English, motherfucker, can you read it?:

"Police said"

See... this is just another example of how severely lacking you are in the brains department. You are this board's equivalent of moth and/or tomas. Your stupidity knows no bounds.

But that is neither here nor there. Let's talk about the important issues and why this won't affect Ron's eligibility, shall we? Mexico's nephew probably lives on the property rent free and will probably assume all responsibility for this mess, lest he wants to bite the hand that feeds him. Furthermore, proving that Mexico had any knowledge of what was going on here will be extremely hard to do... as he "does not spend much time on the property." I smell a loophole, you? We all know, that an expensive team of lawyers can get the guiltiest of people out of murder, let alone a little dog fighting. And lastly, Ron Mexico, for all he's lacking at the QB position, is still one of the biggest faces of the NFL. He sucks arse, but people still dig him and think he's a big deal. He's not some quirky DB with the video game name, he's Ron Fucking Mexico and actually stars in video games. He's too important to the game, he's got too much money, and there's really no direct link to what went on there. He gets out of it. He's a disease ridden, hooker fucking, pot smoking Nog... but so are most people of his color. I will grant you he probably knew about what was going on. But him copping to it and/or proving that is another matter entirely. Even he is found culpable, did I mention he's Ron Fucking Mexico, face of the NFL? No suspension. Write it down... if you're not totally illiterate, that is...

[BSmack]

Even he is found culpable, did I mention he's Ron Fucking Mexico, face of the NFL? No suspension. Write it down... if you're not totally illiterate, that is...

No, guys like Brady, Peyton Manning, Urlacher and Tomlinson are the "faces of the NFL". Not some scatterarmed dipshit with a lifetime completion percentage of 53.8. If Goodell is looking to make a point, Vick is the PERFECT candidate for a suspension. He's a name guy who has hype that doesn't even remotely measure up to his production.

I agree that a year, or even a half year, is completely out of the question unless something can be found directly linking Vick to the day to day operation. But a 1-4 game suspension, given Goodell's new personal conduct policies, cannot be dismissed out of hand simply because you think Vick is "the face of the league". By all accounts, the operation at Vick's property was so big that NOBODY could have reasonably assumed anything other than an illegal dog fighting operation was happening on the property.

BTW: You should also know that the new personal conduct policy specifically allows the Commissioner to make decisions regarding suspensions without regard to the judicial process. The goal is "the avoidance of conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in the National Football League." Which means that even conduct that is not criminal in nature can be enough to trigger a suspension.

[ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2]

Do you really believe the conduct policy will extend to a nephew's behavior? Is that what you're shoveling?

For someone who accuses people of so readily expressing rage, you really need to calm down and think before you go all Merroidman on this issue. I am member of the MSPCA. I am a dog lover. I like dogs better than your average human. This story sickens me. I want someone's head on a platter too.

However... I can't see Mexico being suspended over this. It's too easy to deny any involvement in. It's his nephew's place of residence. He will take the fall. The code of conduct doesn't extend to the behavior of someone who's not even a part of your immediate family, does it? If so, cite it for me...

[poptart]

But a 1-4 game suspension, ......

bwahahahaha

You've already backpeddled down to ..... one game.
If Vick somehow gets a one game suspension you'll be in here claiming 'bode.

Ucant gets it.
Vick skates.

[BSmack]

Do you really believe the conduct policy will extend to a nephew's behavior? Is that what you're shoveling?

No, the conduct is Vick's. As in he allowed that shit to happen on his property.

For someone who accuses people of so readily expressing rage, you really need to calm down and think before you go all Merroidman on this issue. I am member of the MSPCA. I am a dog lover. I like dogs better than your average human. This story sickens me. I want someone's head on a platter too.

However... I can't see Mexico being suspended over this. It's too easy to deny any involvement in. It's his nephew's place of residence. He will take the fall. The code of conduct doesn't extend to the behavior of someone who's not even a part of your immediate family, does it? If so, cite it for me...

Maybe you should read the new Code of Conduct. It specifically says that "Conduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL will be subject to discipline, even if not criminal in nature."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/10119182

I'd have to say that allowing a street thug to run his dog fighting operation out of your property would qualify under that rule. That is, unless Vick can show that he was taking any and all legal measures to have him removed from the property.

[BSmack]

But a 1-4 game suspension, ......

bwahahahaha

You've already backpeddled down to ..... one game.
If Vick somehow gets a one game suspension you'll be in here claiming 'bode.

Ucant gets it.
Vick skates.

Read again. I put the over/under at 4 games. It could be a lot more if Vick is found to have had anything to do with his cousin's drug operation.

You think the cops might have some cell phone calls between the two of them? Just maybe?

[Goober McTuber]

I am a dog lover.

Hey, she's not that bad looking:

[jiminphilly]

did I mention he's Ron Fucking Mexico, face of the NFL? ...

I laughed.

[ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2]

As in he allowed that shit to happen on his property.

"Allowed" would assume he had knowledge of what was going on. This will be the last time I say this, and I will let your dumb ass have the final word that you crave: After his nephew accepts full responsibility and Mexico denies any involvement whatsoever, what are you left with?

Much the substance of your typical post... that's right... the answer is nothing. Zero... point... zero. Blutarsky, baby!




Why don't you do something constructive with your time and participate in the Draft Guru Contest? I hear there's some amazing swag for this year's winner.

[BSmack]

As in he allowed that shit to happen on his property.

"Allowed" would assume he had knowledge of what was going on. This will be the last time I say this, and I will let your dumb ass have the final word that you crave: After his nephew accepts full responsibility and Mexico denies any involvement whatsoever, what are you left with?

You are left with Mexico having title, and therefore responsibility, for what happened on his property. It's not like he gave the keys to the place to the guy for the weekend and they had a wild party that got out of control. This was a large and sophisticated breeding and training operation. It is impossible for a reasonable person to believe that Vick could have not had knowledge of his cousin's activities on his property.

[See You Next Wednesday]

Vick is going to start channeling this guy:




"I know nothing!!!! I see nothing!!!!"

[Dinsdale]

If the nephew says one word to the cops about the dogs, I'll bust a cap in him for my man Mexico.

Sin,
Zach Randolph

[indyfrisco]

First sentence from the article.

"I've seen Michael walking dogs, but it didn't look like a fighting dog," said next door neighbor Earnest Hardy.

UInless the dude is lying about seeing Vick walk dogs, Vick knew what was going on. He owns the property. The players are responsibile for what they do as well as what the people they surround themselves with do.

[jiminphilly]

Do you really believe the conduct policy will extend to a nephew's behavior? Is that what you're shoveling?

For someone who accuses people of so readily expressing rage, you really need to calm down and think before you go all Merroidman on this issue. I am member of the MSPCA. I am a dog lover. I like dogs better than your average human. This story sickens me. I want someone's head on a platter too.

However... I can't see Mexico being suspended over this. It's too easy to deny any involvement in. It's his nephew's place of residence. He will take the fall. The code of conduct doesn't extend to the behavior of someone who's not even a part of your immediate family, does it? If so, cite it for me...

Looks like there is a lot more to this story then has been initially reported---

Police search Vick's Virginia property
Reports: Evidence of dog-fighting discovered

By STEVE WYCHE
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 04/26/07

A drug investigation involving the cousin of Michael Vick led authorities to a residence in Virginia owned by the Falcons quarterback.

Two Virginia television stations reported that animal neglect and possible illegal activity was discovered at the property. The Virginian-Pilot newspaper reported that police are now investigating a possible dog fighting ring. Police and animal control officers were at the residence Wednesday and Thursday


According to a police report obtained by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, a drug investigation involving Vick's cousin Davon Boddie led authorities to the house in Smithfield, Va. The Virginian-Pilot reported that, according to court records, police found about 30 dogs, some heavily scarred, and various paraphernalia associated with dog fighting while conducting a search of the home, which Vick owns but does not live in.

Vick refused comment Thursday through a Falcons spokesman. Boddie lived with Vick in Atlanta in the summer of 2005. In an interview with the Journal-Constitution at the time, Vick said Boddie "is a good cook, like my little chef. Sometimes, we'll send him to the store; he knows what everybody likes. He does a pretty good job because I'm real big on seasoning food so it's got that flavor."

A search warrant was granted in Surry County Circuit Court after Vick's cousin was arrested April 20 with marijuana in a car he was driving but did not own and on his person. Boddie also had a 9mm hand gun in the car. Boddie was arrested and charged with possession of marijuana with intent to sell, prompting the investigation of his residence, the property on Moonlight Road in Smithfield, Va. According to reports, while investigators were on the scene, they discovered three buildings that housed several barking dogs.

"When they had a chance to go to the site, they discovered animal neglect," Surry County Administrator Tyrone Franklin told WAVY-TV. The dogs appeared to be hungry and forgotten according to Franklin.

Franklin told television station FOX 43 that the property "does give the appearance of some activity, illegal activity."

When contacted by the Journal-Constitution on Thursday, a spokesperson for the Surry County Sheriff's Department said the deputy in charge of the case was currently at the site and could not be reached for comment.

Photographs taken Thursday of the property show several dog kennels, some with dogs still in them.

The Humane Society of the United States issued the following statement from Wyane Pacelle, president and CEO: "The Humane Society of the United States has heard troubling reports for some time that Michael Vick has been involved in organized dog fighting, and we fear that this investigation may validate that very disturbing allegation."

"We have well-placed sources in the dog fighting underworld," John Goodwin, deputy manager of animal fighting issues, told the Journal-Constitution. "His involvement has been brought to our attention numerous times. We pay people for information that leads to arrests."

Goodwin said The Humane Society did not know the location of a dog fighting of Vick's until Wednesday's investigation.

According to a records search by the Journal-Constitution, Vick owns the property at 1915 Moonlight Road in Smithfield, Va.

Vick is scheduled to appear in New York on Saturday at the NFL draft. Vick, Falcons cornerback DeAngelo Hall, former Buffalo Bills defensive end Bruce Smith, Virginia Tech football coach Frank Beamer and NFL commissioner Roger Goodell will take part in a pre-NFL draft ceremony to honor the victims of the recent shooting tragedy at Virginia Tech.

The former Virginia Tech players – all NFL Pro Bowlers — Beamer and Goodell will stage a tribute before the first pick of the annual draft is made.

Goodell said Thursday that he did not seem to think there was a concern with Vick.

Vick was a no-show for a Capitol Hill breakfast Tuesday at which he was to be honored and then speak to some members of Congress about increasing funding for after-school programs. He missed a connecting flight. His mother, Brenda Boddie, accepted the award on his behalf.

"I think that reflects poorly on him," Goodell said. "I wish he would honor his commitments."

[BSmack]

Now it turns out that the property in question is listed as the mailing address for a pit bull breeding outfit run by none other than MV7 Inc.

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sport ... 3vick.html

Looks like Vick's "I know nothing" defense has a few holes in it. It will be an absolute joy to watch this jackass go down.

[trev]

Whatever happened to all the Michael Vick supporters who used to defend him round these parts?

[Dinsdale]

It will be an absolute joy to watch this jackass go down.

Werd.

Sin,
Joey Harrington

[DallasFanatic]

It will be an absolute joy to watch this jackass go down.

Werd.

Sin,
Joey Harrington

Hey Dins,

Do you know anything about this isaiah Stanback kid from UW? If so, care to break it down why the Boys thought he was worth a 4th round pick?

[Raydah James]

From Pro Football Talk:


Vicks latest defense:



"Dog fighting? Man, I'm just teaching them to play football."

[Dinsdale]

Do you know anything about this isaiah Stanback kid from UW? If so, care to break it down why the Boys thought he was worth a 4th round pick?

First off, he's a Fusky, therefore he should die a horrible, slow, very painful death.

That said -- It could be argued that dude should have been awarded the Heisman. UDub wasn't all that terribly bad with him (taking into account the state of the program, anyway), and I seem to remember even cracked the top 25 early in the year. Without him, they were horrrrrible. He was the 2006 Fuskies.


I'm no NFL scout, and if I had influence over an NFL team, no fusky would ever shame my uniform...but if he hadn't been injured, I think he was a lot higher than a 4th. Scrambling, dynamic QB...makes things happen, even if he needs to force them.

Put up some reasonably gaudy numbers in the games he did play, a fact made more impressive by the complete lack of supporting vast(UDub was much worse than their record suggests). He averaged about 50 per rushing, as well. Pretty sturdy-built dude.

As always, future success for QBs is always a crapshoot, but he might work out for someone, eventually.

I'd say it's a decent pickup in the 4th round, but I say that while being completely unfamiliar with the current injury situation...but I'm guessing the Girls have doctors who look into that sort of thing.

[BSmack]

Joey Harrington

Your U&L boy (and Padrig Harrington's cousin) may be under center on opening day if this blurb I saw on PFT pans out.

ANOTHER BOMBSHELL: BUCHANAN SAYS VICK FIGHTS DOGS

In a Friday afternoon interview with our buddy Steve Duemig of 620 WDAE in Tampa, Chris Landry of Fox Sports Radio said that former Atlanta Falcons defensive back Ray Buchanan told Landry on the weekend of the NFL draft that Vick is directly involved in dog fighting.

Said Landry of his discussion with Buchanan: "He tells me that Michael has been into this dog fighting for so long that . . . .he not only knew about, he is behind all of it, he's paying for all of it. . . . Apparently, he's into it big time."

Landry also said that Vick was actively recruiting teammates to become involved in the "sport." The audio of the Landry interview can be heard right here.

Buchanan was a member of the Falcons for the first three years of Vick's career.

It'll be interesting to see what Buchanan has to say when someone calls him up in response to this item.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

This shit ain't going away. There are animal rights groups that will make sure this stays on some police department's front burner. The only thing stopping Harrington is that the Falcons (if they have any fucking common sense whatsoever) might have enough time to shop for a competent starting QB before the start of training camp.

[BSmack]

This just in...

When asked, "At this moment in time, do we have any evidence that puts Vick at dog fighting?" Poindexter replied, "Yes."

http://www.wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S=6589602&nav=23ii

[RevLimiter]

The only thing stopping Harrington is that the Falcons (if they have any fucking common sense whatsoever) might have enough time to shop for a competent starting QB before the start of training camp.

You rang?

Sin,

[BSmack]

The only thing stopping Harrington is that the Falcons (if they have any fucking common sense whatsoever) might have enough time to shop for a competent starting QB before the start of training camp.

You rang?

Sin,

Yes, the sound you just heard was Carl Peterson's dick getting hard at the thought of a bidding war for a 37 year old brain dead QB with limited mobility.

[Goober McTuber]

Yes, the sound you just heard was Carl Peterson's dick getting hard

You can hear another man’s dick getting hard? EARIE LAGOS much?

[DallasFanatic]

Another candidate for boner of the year would be Petrino himself. He now has the possibility of getting a white quarterback who can actually read a defense.

[Dinsdale]

Oh so now he's more than adequate instead of better than McNabb?

I was hoping you could stop granting yourself BODE long enough to link this up?