Speaking to members of the Associated Press Sports Editors in New York yesterday,
commissioner Roger Goodell said the NFL is exploring the possibility of staging a
Super Bowl outside the United States -- probably in Mexico City, London, or Toronto --
sometime after 2011.
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Wet-Brained Fucktard wrote:I know we here like to talk shit and we do tend to get, how you say, immature at times. At some points, the banter on a board like this can be somewhat childish. It happens.
war your team not making the sb the year this happens. It would be funny to watch the browns vs the lions or bears or some other long suffering NFC team. so the fans can cry about not being able to even enjoy the game. LOL
unwar whistles at a Football game. NFL europe is awful listening to that whistling.
Who cares? 99% of the people at the game are corporate whores anyway. Toronto, Wembley whatever, it all looks the same on my TV.
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
mvscal wrote:Right. Because all those millions being spent in local hotels, restaurants, bars and stores really go to benefit some other local economy.
The truth is you're fucking idiot.
Most of that money is shipped back to corporate HQ. Only a small percentage ever makes it back into the local economy.
Don't tell me you didn't know.
"Once upon a time, dinosaurs didn't have families. They lived in the woods and ate their children. It was a golden age."
—Earl Sinclair
"I do have respect for authority even though I throw jelly dicks at them.
Just about any American city which doesn't mind millions upon millions in additional economic activity and tax revenue.
Sorry, i will amend my statement, to
Why should I care?
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
mvscal wrote:Right. Because all those millions being spent in local hotels, restaurants, bars and stores really go to benefit some other local economy.
The truth is you're fucking idiot.
Most of that money is shipped back to corporate HQ. Only a small percentage ever makes it back into the local economy.
Don't tell me you didn't know.
You're a fucking clueless dipshit. Period. EOS
Oh, so when Holiday Inn, Marriott et al gouge Super Bowl attendees for their rooms, they then turn around and reinvest that money into the community?
Negro please.
"Once upon a time, dinosaurs didn't have families. They lived in the woods and ate their children. It was a golden age."
—Earl Sinclair
"I do have respect for authority even though I throw jelly dicks at them.
mvscal wrote:Right. Because all those millions being spent in local hotels, restaurants, bars and stores really go to benefit some other local economy.
The truth is you're fucking idiot.
Most of that money is shipped back to corporate HQ. Only a small percentage ever makes it back into the local economy.
Don't tell me you didn't know.
You're a fucking clueless dipshit. Period. EOS
RACK MV
X the number of forehead sack indentions on BSchmucks ballport after his incredibly moronic post.
Really, Brian, they may jack the rates for that week, and much of that may go to corporate HQ, but the hotels and restaurants are sure to be full, and many of those employees are tipped. Chances are, those employees will spend that additional income in their community.
Room taxes often run 8-10%, and that money goes to local government. Much of the food consumed in the restaurants may be locally grown/produced.
To suggest that there isn’t a significant financial benefit to the city hosting a Super Bowl is ludicrous.
Joe in PB wrote:
Yeah I'm the dumbass
schmick, speaking about Larry Nassar's pubescent and prepubescent victims wrote:
They couldn't even kick that doctors ass
Seems they rather just lay there, get fucked and play victim
Goober McTuber wrote:To suggest that there isn’t a significant financial benefit to the city hosting a Super Bowl is ludicrous.
The benefit is minimal and concentrated almost entirely in the service sector. Even then, when weighed against the cost of building a state of the art stadium, there is almost zero financial gain. These events are nothing more than corporate welfare.
"Once upon a time, dinosaurs didn't have families. They lived in the woods and ate their children. It was a golden age."
—Earl Sinclair
"I do have respect for authority even though I throw jelly dicks at them.
Goober McTuber wrote:To suggest that there isn’t a significant financial benefit to the city hosting a Super Bowl is ludicrous.
The benefit is minimal and concentrated almost entirely in the service sector. Even then, when weighed against the cost of building a state of the art stadium, there is almost zero financial gain. These events are nothing more than corporate welfare.
My bad. I thought most of Super Bowl cities already had stadiums. I would have thought that was essential to hosting the game.
Joe in PB wrote:
Yeah I'm the dumbass
schmick, speaking about Larry Nassar's pubescent and prepubescent victims wrote:
They couldn't even kick that doctors ass
Seems they rather just lay there, get fucked and play victim
Goober McTuber wrote:To suggest that there isn’t a significant financial benefit to the city hosting a Super Bowl is ludicrous.
The benefit is minimal and concentrated almost entirely in the service sector. Even then, when weighed against the cost of building a state of the art stadium, there is almost zero financial gain. These events are nothing more than corporate welfare.
My bad. I thought most of Super Bowl cities already had stadiums. I would have thought that was essential to hosting the game.
Super Bowl bids are used to entice cities into wasting money on new/refurbished stadiums for billionaires who don't want to spend their own money. See Detroit, Jacksonville, Houston, San Diego, Atlanta...
"Once upon a time, dinosaurs didn't have families. They lived in the woods and ate their children. It was a golden age."
—Earl Sinclair
"I do have respect for authority even though I throw jelly dicks at them.
BSmack wrote:
Super Bowl bids are used to entice cities into wasting money on new/refurbished stadiums for billionaires who don't want to spend their own money.
1. A new or refurbished stadium is hardly a waste. It will be used for many years after the SB has passed through. There is a trickle down effect from all that cash being spent, and not just in the service area. Service employees drive cars, pay taxes, etc. To suggest that a SB doesn't benefit the local economy is short-sighted.
2. Being as how the city or county generally own the stadium's, why should the owners foot the entire bill? The Chiefs are putting up $75 mil towards the upgrade of Arrowhead, the rest being covered by Jackson County. No SB for us though, as voters turned down the roof required to qualify for that. Still, it's a wise investment.
The economic estimates for Superbowls range from 400 million (NFL) to 100 million (most academic studies). Even accepting the lower range figure, 100 million dollars is a far from a "minimal" benefit.
100 million is a total loss. Because that doesn't factor the money sunk into the stadium. They would have been better off just giving every man woman and child in the San Diego metro area their tax money back rather than sinking it into that abortion of a stadium your team's owners are ALREADY trying to ditch for bright shiny new digs. For which I'm sure Goodell will promise a Super Bowl and a reach around to San Diego.
"Once upon a time, dinosaurs didn't have families. They lived in the woods and ate their children. It was a golden age."
—Earl Sinclair
"I do have respect for authority even though I throw jelly dicks at them.
Felix wrote:the stadium doesn't quit making money when the SB leaves town B.......
maybe you ought to quit while you're behind....
Why don't you try looking at it this way. If building a 500 million dollar stadium is such a great investment, how come some of the smartest businessmen on the planet refuse to do it with their own money?
Don't hurt yourself tripping over the logic.
"Once upon a time, dinosaurs didn't have families. They lived in the woods and ate their children. It was a golden age."
—Earl Sinclair
"I do have respect for authority even though I throw jelly dicks at them.
Felix wrote:the stadium doesn't quit making money when the SB leaves town B.......
maybe you ought to quit while you're behind....
Why don't you try looking at it this way. If building a 500 million dollar stadium is such a great investment, how come some of the smartest businessmen on the planet refuse to do it with their own money?
Probably because they figure the local government will do it for them. Why? Because having an NFL team there continues to benefit the economy. For at least ten weekends a year, not just the one-shot Super Bowl. And perhaps because they figure that's what they have to do to keep their NFL team.
But stadium building is really a separate discussion. There can be no doubt that hosting a Super Bowl has a positive economic benefit for the local community.
Joe in PB wrote:
Yeah I'm the dumbass
schmick, speaking about Larry Nassar's pubescent and prepubescent victims wrote:
They couldn't even kick that doctors ass
Seems they rather just lay there, get fucked and play victim
BSmack wrote:
If building a 500 million dollar stadium is such a great investment, how come some of the smartest businessmen on the planet refuse to do it with their own money?
Neely8 wrote:Gillette Stadium. Built by Bob Kraft and his money. Massachusetts gave I think 50 million to infrastructure. I love our owner.....
Eject Bri.......
There are exceptions to the rule. The Patriots and Redskins are the most obvious. Ever notice that teams who have no trouble filling an old stadium to 95%+ capacity are the most likely to kick in for their own stadium? Yea, I did too. Meanwhile, guys like Zygi Wilf spin multi billion dollar fantasies about "driving development" and pledge a mere 25% of the stadium cost.
Link? I remember CT being angry with the NFL for interfering in the proposed deal, not Kraft. CT couldn't deliver in the timeframe that Kraft wanted and Tags and Co didn't want to lose the substantially larger Boston market.
Dude, CT couldn't even keep the NHL's Hartford Failures... did you really expect them to be capable of supporting an NFL franchise?
Let me guess... you're one the gullible idiots who believed the Rams might actually move to Hartford too.
BSmack wrote:Maybe Whitey is still sore from the assfucking the Hunt family gave him and the rest of KC taxpayers.
Begrudgingly, I have to RACK that.
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Wet-Brained Fucktard wrote:I know we here like to talk shit and we do tend to get, how you say, immature at times. At some points, the banter on a board like this can be somewhat childish. It happens.
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