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NFL may expand to 17 games

NEW YORK (AP) - Americans always seem to want more pro football. Yet it's the folks abroad who might be getting an extra taste of the NFL in the future.

Although talks are extremely preliminary, the NFL is investigating adding a 17th regular-season game and playing it outside the United States. The extra game would take the place of one in the preseason, allowing every team to play once abroad without sacrificing a home match.
This year, the Dolphins gave up a home date in Miami to play the New York Giants at Wembley Stadium in London. Two years ago, the Arizona Cardinals played a home game in Mexico City against the San Francisco 49ers.

"It is preliminary, but we certainly are putting resources into pulling that together," said Mark Waller, NFL senior vice president, international. "For now, we have the one game per season or two per season outside of the U.S. But we know it can be tough on home fans since we're taking a game away.

"So we have asked how do we create more inventory without taking games away from fans? That idea came up in internal conversations and we now have an international committee of owners and we talked it through with them, and they asked us to do some groundwork."

While the 17th game won't get off the ground next season, for sure, it could become a staple of the NFL's schedule by 2009 or 2010. But it would present some significant logistical and scheduling challenges.

For one, if there is another week to the regular season, does that mean openers played on Labor Day weekend, something the NFL has avoided in recent years? Or does it mean pushing the Super Bowl back a week to the second Sunday in February? Or leaving the title game where it is and eliminating the week off between conference championships and the Super Bowl?

"I don't see a huge downside to a week later. The strength of the idea warrants bringing it up for discussion," Waller said.

And what about during a Winter Olympics year such as 2010?

"It might be an issue for the Olympics," he adds with a laugh.

Where would the "foreign games" be played? And how would they be divided?

Waller notes that there won't be 16 different venues for the 17th games. More likely would be a "mini-season ticket" of perhaps four games in one city or country.

"It is very early, but our thought is what we could end up with is every week there would be one international game," he said. "We won't have all of them on the same week. And what you would do is look at taking, for instance, four games to London. Play a game in Wembley each month, having eight different teams coming through. A game in September, one in October, one in November and one in December.

"It's a great opportunity from a fan perspective, because they get half of what a fan in the United States gets, four games to eight."

Aside from England, other prime areas to get games would be Germany, which has a half-dozen quality stadiums thanks to last year's World Cup; Mexico; and Canada. Waller doubts Asia or Australia would be targeted because of the travel concerns, but he doesn't dismiss anything. Or anywhere.

"It is a complex idea and it will take a lot of work on a number of sides," Waller said. "The beauty of it is it's competitively fair."


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poptart wrote:And what you would do is look at taking, for instance, four games to London. Play a game in Wembley each month, having eight different teams coming through. A game in September, one in October, one in November and one in December.
Why London? What's wrong with moving those four games with eight teams to American cities that haven't seen real NFL football in years? Like Detroit.
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Go up 18 and cut the preseason to 2 games. An odd number of games is kind of strange. How could you give half the league 9 home games while giving the other half just 8?
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I don’t think anyone gets 9 home games, unless you think there’s some huge advantage to being designated the home team for your game in Stuttgart. But the whole idea sucks.
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"The beauty of it is it's competitively fair."
Tell that to the first team to come home Jet lagged late in the season to face their division rival fresh of their bye week. Stupid fucking idea.


If you really want to get more international games, cut out 1 preseason game. Have a gaggle of teams make their 1st preseason games internationally, a week off, and two "real" preseason games to tune up. Win-win. Less Bullshit preaseason, and more international games to build fan base.
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Shoalzie wrote:Go up 18 and cut the preseason to 2 games. An odd number of games is kind of strange. How could you give half the league 9 home games while giving the other half just 8?

No doubt...I mean, how do you know which plate belongs to OJ?
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Dinsdale wrote:
Shoalzie wrote:Go up 18 and cut the preseason to 2 games. An odd number of games is kind of strange. How could you give half the league 9 home games while giving the other half just 8?
No doubt...I mean, how do you know which plate belongs to OJ?
Ask the waitress. They never get orders wrong.
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BSmack wrote:Ask the waitress. They never get orders wrong.

You're not bolstering your argument by noting the exception as opposed to the rule.

Or does your dining out experience consist solely of getting "Pesci-ed" at some drive thru?
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ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:
BSmack wrote:Ask the waitress. They never get orders wrong.
You're not bolstering your argument by noting the exception as opposed to the rule.
When it comes to swallowing another's spit, an exception IS one time too many.

But back on topic, as long as everybody plays an overseas game AND the teams get their bye week on their return from overseas, then I don't see where it presents a competitive balance issue for the league.
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BSmack wrote:I don't see where it presents a competitive balance issue for the league.

Maybe so, but it sure seems to present a mathmatical imbalance for Schitzie.
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Dinsdale wrote:
BSmack wrote:I don't see where it presents a competitive balance issue for the league.
Maybe so, but it sure seems to present a mathmatical imbalance for Schitzie.
So it would appear. Maybe he should go to work for Matt Millen. He could be the mastermind behind the 6 wide receiver formation*.




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BSmack wrote:But back on topic, as long as everybody plays an overseas game AND the teams get their bye week on their return from overseas, then I don't see where it presents a competitive balance issue for the league.
I agree...if anything, it would present a "who gives a shit" issue for the countries that host those games.
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Anything is better than preseason.
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