CBS Sportsline Article

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Mon May 21, 2007 4:55 pm

Conversation piece.....

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootba ... y/10187491

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Mon May 21, 2007 5:23 pm

interesting...very interesting...

I think it is hard to limit though on some of these...especially game day atmospheres...there are probably another 5 or more that are very stout...in terms of overall game day atmosphere...but hey...I don't get paid to write those articles...

interesting choices on the gameday coaches as well...nice to see he hasn't totally discounted tressel based on one game...honestly (puts on homer glasses) I would take him or petey right now...no dis-respect...but just my opinion...

discuss away...I would be interested to hear what this board thinks about some of these categories...

interesting to note in many of these categories both tOSU and FLA are right there...(insert joke) I am so sick of FLA right now! (finish joke)...

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Mon May 21, 2007 6:10 pm

buckeye_in_sc wrote:I don't get paid to write those articles...

You're more qualified than Dodd.

Mr T · Post by **Mr T** » Mon May 21, 2007 8:52 pm

Five best game-day coaches sponsored by Depends

Florida State: Change coaches all you want, Bobby. It's still the players, the players, the players.

ok, whatever you say

Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford had to explain himself to coaches after pictures surfaced on the Internet. Stafford was shown standing next to a beautiful girl while lifting a keg of beer in what looked like the infield at Talladega Raceway.

I bet he would have to explain himself. Where was that power on the field last year?

CBS has SEC TV rights and this article is over the top SEC. Not suprised.

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Tue May 22, 2007 3:51 am

Killian wrote:
buckeye_in_sc wrote:I don't get paid to write those articles...
You're more qualified than Dodd.

Agreed. Dodd is a hack.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Tue May 22, 2007 6:16 am

CBS continues to be an SEC propaganda machine

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Tue May 22, 2007 1:07 pm

just a question for discussion...

does anyone think that one of the reasons the SEC is always among the top 2 or 3 conferences every year is based partly on how many of their teams are ranked to start the season? I mean last year they had what 7 teams ranked in the top 25 preseason...and teams like UT were generously ranked high to start the year...granted it helped that they bitch slapped KAL...but bama was ranked to start the season last year and fell off rather quickly...

this year for instance you will probably see...FLA, UT, LSU, GA, Arkanasas, South Carolina, Bama, Auburn ranked to start the season and a good bit of them will be top 15 or higher...question GA has a lot of question marks, South Carolina lost a lot of offense, and UT loses Meachem and some darn good defensive guys...but they will ranked to start the year...I think the other conferences rankings are indicative of their true strength...Big 10...Michigan, PSU, Sconsin, and tOSU all ranked which is correct with maybe Purdue and Iowa possibly moving in after a couple of games...but the point is you don't see a so-so team like Bama or South carolina from the big 10 ala MSU, etc ranked to start the season...I realize SC and Bama brought in good recruiting classes but South Carolina lost Boyd, Ric, etc...what the hell are they going to do for offense...?

Again just my point that part of the SEC hype has to do with the amount of teams that are ranked pre-season and don't sit there and tell me they all deserve to be ranked...

what say you?

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Tue May 22, 2007 1:58 pm

Does the SEC ever take part in an early non-conference marquee matchup?

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Tue May 22, 2007 2:13 pm

Can you reasonbly explain why there were 7 teams from the SEC ranked at the beginning of last year? How many of them deserved to be ranked?

My point is rankings help to determine strength of conference no? So if you start the season with say 6 or 7 ranked teams doesn't that inflate your conference ranking to a degree? I mean case in point bama was ranked at the beginning of last year...did they deserve to be? You will say yes based on previous year results (and I am not per se picking on Bama)...and the counter point to that is Wisconsin wasn't ranked at all preaseason...

so you believe writers/coaches would never vote for someone in the polls whether deserving or not...

PSU - Bama has in the past with playing OU and this year playing FSU, LSU plays Va Tech, and of course Arkansas spent 2 years getting plungered by USC...but other than that not sure who else from the SEC plays a marquee non con match up...

cue...because our conference is a beast argument in 5...4...3...2...1...

and I just threw the question out for disucssion because even if you are the most blatant homer alive you can't possibly think that 6-8 teams from any conference deserve to be ranked a the beginning of the year...another reason to not do any rankings until 1st week in October...

Terry in Crapchester · Tue May 22, 2007 3:17 pm

PSUFAN wrote:Does the SEC ever take part in an early non-conference marquee matchup?

Going back the last ten years or so, the following SEC teams have played ND, excluding bowl games:

Tennessee: '99, '01, '04, '05
LSU: '97, '98
Vandy: '95, '96

Granted, only the Vandy games were early-season games, but then again, the Big Ten pretty much monopolizes ND's early-season schedule.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Tue May 22, 2007 4:41 pm

Horse dead......beaten.....found laying on the side of college football forum......news at 11.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Tue May 22, 2007 5:00 pm

Kinda like your retort for the SEC argument. No facts to back it up, can't argue it, so you throw out the "dead horse" bit.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Tue May 22, 2007 5:24 pm

Killian wrote:Kinda like your retort for the SEC argument. No facts to back it up, can't argue it, so you throw out the "dead horse" bit.

The same shit has been regurgitated over and over. I recall hearing the same crap said to me about several topics. Blah, blah, blah.......

Regurgitate dude.......SEC OOC schedule.....blah, blah, blah.....Big 12 overrated....blah, blah, blah......

Where's our favorite NY bartender to derail the dead thread.

Someone check the expiration date.....this place has gone stale.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Tue May 22, 2007 5:34 pm

Sudden Sam wrote:Tennessee-Oregon in 2010.

Interesting matchup. It'd be nice if these two conferences found a way to schedule each other more. Many a good game, we'd see.

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Tue May 22, 2007 5:39 pm

I wish the NCAA would step in and make teams schedule bigger games...

i would love to see SEC vs Big 10 or SEC vs Big 12 or Big 10 vs Pac 10 or something like that...

i actually would like to see oregon beat UT...

L45B · Post by **L45B** » Tue May 22, 2007 7:05 pm

Tennessee-Oregon in 2010.

Good god I think I'll be watching this game on a black & white tv, if at all possible.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Tue May 22, 2007 7:11 pm

I used to mock the Tennessee orange, but come on...that's some pretty traditional stuff right there. The offbeat colors/logos, etc., just work for some schools and UT's no exception. The checkered end zones are pretty cool too.

L45B · Post by **L45B** » Tue May 22, 2007 9:08 pm

Yeah, I guess you're right. Those 1-inch cleats they wear really match the black in the away uniforms, too. Very classic.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Tue May 22, 2007 9:57 pm

The FSU comment was just moronic. How can you not note the difference since Richt left and Bobby hired a guy for having the right last-name while doing nothing himself but just become more of a figure-head? He says something as stupid as "it is the players" and he has a national column? How is that fair?

The Georgia qb was out enjoying himself? Wow that is so unlike your typical college-guy.

While our new guy is supposed to be a hell of a coach we will miss John Blake's recruiting ability.

I'd like to see Boise and TCU get a chance at the next level. Maybe we could throw them Utah, BYU,etc into a new BCS-conference

How hard can it be to be the AD at Texas? With everything they have to offer and their resources I could make good hires and schmooze big donations there. Ya maybe the guy is good and he has to deal with high expectations but dude is in a great situation and that definitely helps.

Terry in Crapchester · Tue May 22, 2007 10:38 pm

Danimal wrote:I'd like to see Boise and TCU get a chance at the next level. Maybe we could throw them Utah, BYU,etc into a new BCS-conference

After next season, the BCS will re-evaluate each conference with regards to automatic bid status. Thing is, they'll take each member of each conference at that time, and go back to the last four years with that team's performance, regardless of whether the team was a member of the conference or not. There will be a minimum of five, maximum of seven, automatic bids.

With that in mind, I don't know how quickly you can get a deal like that done, but if I'm the MWC, I'm going after Boise State now, hard. With Boise, the MWC has a shot at landing an automatic BCS bid. The downside is, and I'll preface these comments by saying that I don't know exactly how the system works, the MWC may need to get rid of some of their weaker sisters, such as UNLV and San Diego State, to have a shot at a BCS automatic bid. In any event, I certainly wouldn't be pushing for 12 teams and a CCG, just the addition of Boise.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Wed May 23, 2007 9:21 am

buckeye_in_sc wrote:just a question for discussion...

does anyone think that one of the reasons the SEC is always among the top 2 or 3 conferences every year is based partly on how many of their teams are ranked to start the season? I mean last year they had what 7 teams ranked in the top 25 preseason...and teams like UT were generously ranked high to start the year...granted it helped that they bitch slapped KAL...but bama was ranked to start the season last year and fell off rather quickly...

this year for instance you will probably see...FLA, UT, LSU, GA, Arkanasas, South Carolina, Bama, Auburn ranked to start the season and a good bit of them will be top 15 or higher...question GA has a lot of question marks, South Carolina lost a lot of offense, and UT loses Meachem and some darn good defensive guys...but they will ranked to start the year...I think the other conferences rankings are indicative of their true strength...Big 10...Michigan, PSU, Sconsin, and tOSU all ranked which is correct with maybe Purdue and Iowa possibly moving in after a couple of games...but the point is you don't see a so-so team like Bama or South carolina from the big 10 ala MSU, etc ranked to start the season...I realize SC and Bama brought in good recruiting classes but South Carolina lost Boyd, Ric, etc...what the hell are they going to do for offense...?

Again just my point that part of the SEC hype has to do with the amount of teams that are ranked pre-season and don't sit there and tell me they all deserve to be ranked...

what say you?

I think the problem is deeper than that
Yes the SEC seems to start every year with several of their teams ranked but that doesnt mean that several of the SEC teams arent very good football teams.
The problem though is that some of these teams dont deserve the high ranking they have
SEC fans always point to rankings and records as to why they feel their teams are the best, what SEC fans dont point to is that so many of those games on those schedules are played at home and many are vs very very bad teams.
The only way to find out if the schools in the SEC are as good as they and their fans think they are is to have the NCAA start making OOC schedules and forcing these teams to leave their comfortable happy little confines
Lets see Auburn play at Pullman Washington in November instead of at home vs Arkansas State, and why the hell is Arkansas State even on their schedule in the first place? Tennessee didnt seem to like South Bend, In in November much.
Georgia has not left the south since a trip to Michigan in 1965, forty fuckin years ago, lin 2005 Georgia played every game but one that year in a state adjoined to Georgia and that 1 game was in Starkville Mississippi vs Sylvester Crooms MSU Martyrs, they didnt have to travel more than a few hundred miles from campus for the other 12 games
SEC teams, by refusing to play real OOC schedules with half the games on the road have all but guaranteed a collective 40 + wins to their conference which makes conference games look like clashes of Titans thus feeding the "we beat up on ourselves" arguement
Its obvious they can not make the schedules themselves, let the NCAA step in and make the schedules for them, giving all of them 6 road games a year and at least 3 OOC games vs quality opponents from other BCS conferences

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Wed May 23, 2007 12:41 pm

T REX wrote:
Killian wrote:Kinda like your retort for the SEC argument. No facts to back it up, can't argue it, so you throw out the "dead horse" bit.
The same shit has been regurgitated over and over. I recall hearing the same crap said to me about several topics. Blah, blah, blah.......

Regurgitate dude.......SEC OOC schedule.....blah, blah, blah.....Big 12 overrated....blah, blah, blah......

Where's our favorite NY bartender to derail the dead thread.

Someone check the expiration date.....this place has gone stale.

Honestly, then fucking leave. We have this same conversation every single year at this time. You don't like what we talk about, and no one gives a fuck what you think. You ran away and hid during your teams championship run, while still sending PM's to people because you couldn't stay away, and then magically appeared and decided it was worth your time when your team lucked into the championship and then beat the piss out of OSU.

Most of the people here talk about the same shit in the offseason because there isn't a lot to talk about. So either ignore it or go away.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Wed May 23, 2007 12:50 pm

Killian wrote: Parrot...parrot.....parrot.......i'm a bitter fuck.....parrot.....leave.....SEC OOC.....parrot

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Wed May 23, 2007 1:35 pm

T REX wrote:
Killian wrote: Parrot...parrot.....parrot.......i'm a bitter fuck.....parrot.....leave.....SEC OOC.....parrot

Good call douche. Bitter. Yep, great call.

Don't pull a hammy running in and out of these forums when your team starts to win.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Wed May 23, 2007 1:57 pm

i'm not sure about this Nebraska having a top 3 class thanks to John Blake consummated by winning the Big XII as "not a coincident"....as proof of anything. i don't remember NU having a top 3 class (except maybe Lemming). no doubt Boo Blake is a good recruiter but i think Dodd is stepping on his crank here to make a pretty flimsy point w/out much real evidence.

Gary Barnett won the mighty North a couple times in a row with top 40 recruiting classes and no one gave him much props for that...they just said the North was weak. now it means something??

can't have it both ways.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Wed May 23, 2007 4:28 pm

Killian wrote:
Good call douche. Bitter. Yep, great call.

Don't pull a hammy running in and out of these forums when your team starts to win.

Starts????????.......uhhhh....see sig below......riiiiiiiiiggghhhhttttt......

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Wed May 23, 2007 4:37 pm

Yep, and you weren't in here for one play during Florida's national championship run so you are on par with Schmick. Had UF not won the NC, you would not be in here. So again, don't pull a hammy when your team starts to win again.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Wed May 23, 2007 4:50 pm

Actually...I would have came in and gave props to buck and OSU. Whether you believe me, it matters not.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Wed May 23, 2007 5:03 pm

I can’t wait till ucant and Dinsdale find out you’re back and come in here and make you cry again.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Wed May 23, 2007 5:40 pm

T REX wrote:Actually...I would have came in and gave props to buck and OSU. Whether you believe me, it matters not.

And you wouldn't be here. The fact that you are still here is a direct result of that game. In most circles, that would qualify you as bandwaggon. But hey, whatever works.