LJ is back in the fold

orcinus · Post by **orcinus** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:32 pm

Details forthcoming, but Clayton says it's a five-year extension with around $19M guaranteed. Considering he's on the hook for one more season with the current contract, that makes for six years, no?

Good luck seeing the back end of that deal.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:37 pm

Six years from what I heard on the local sports radio, and not just yes, but...

HELL YES!!!

This changes everything.

orcinus · Post by **orcinus** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:40 pm

Five-year extension

$45M
$19M guaranteed

With the way the game is played these days, that looks like a fair shake.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:43 pm

When a back holds out as long as LJ did, it is because he knows he has only one more big money deal left and if he doesn't get it NOW, his idiot head coach will plow him into the ground with another 416 carries behind a substandard offensive line before he can ever sign another contract.

Neely8 · Post by **Neely8** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:46 pm

Thats why I love the Pats!! Hold them hostage.......I don't think so!!!

orcinus · Post by **orcinus** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:59 pm

You're certain to disagree with this, Neels, but I don't think LJ held anyone hostage, per se, and I think this deal gets done on any other team, including the Patriots. New England, though, won't make a circus of it.

LJ couldn't have handled this any better, from a PR perspective ... especially with the Priest Holmes circus Carl Peterson welcomed into town in a vain effort to salvage leverage.

It's an extension to a contract that had a year left, and Johnson's rookie deal was grossly undervalued.

The Patriots have let players walk away, because in each situation, they could replace them. Ty Law already had a significant contract and was on the downside turn.

While the situation was closer to LJ's, Branch had an inflated self-of-steam.

If Brady had a year left on his contract, the Pats would have extended him quickly and quietly. Placed in the same situation, Peterson tried to play hardball with little or no leverage.

That's your difference.

This wasn't LJ's holdout as much as it was Peterson's.

Neely8 · Post by **Neely8** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:04 pm

orcinus wrote:You're certain to disagree with this, Neels, but I don't think LJ held anyone hostage, per se, and I think this deal gets done on any other team, including the Patriots. New England, though, won't make a circus of it.

LJ couldn't have handled this any better, from a PR perspective ... especially with the Priest Holmes circus Carl Peterson welcomed into town in a vain effort to salvage leverage.

It's an extension to a contract that had a year left, and Johnson's rookie deal was grossly undervalued.

The Patriots have let players walk away, because in each situation, they could replace them. Ty Law already had a significant contract and was on the downside turn.

While the situation was closer to LJ's, Branch had an inflated self-of-steam.

If Brady had a year left on his contract, the Pats would have extended him quickly and quietly. Placed in the same situation, Peterson tried to play hardball with little or no leverage.

That's your difference.

This wasn't LJ's holdout as much as it was Peterson's.

Assante Samuel thinks he has leverage. They will let him sit out until week 10 and then guess what they will do. FRANCHISE THE LITTLE SHIT AGAIN!!! Dude could take 7.7 million to play this year but he would rather make a statement. He picked the wrong team to do that with....

orcinus · Post by **orcinus** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:06 pm

Completely agree with you on Samuel.

RevLimiter · Post by **RevLimiter** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:23 pm

BSmack wrote:When a back holds out as long as LJ did, it is because he knows he has only one more big money deal left and if he doesn't get it NOW, his idiot head coach will plow him into the ground with another 416 carries behind a substandard offensive line before he can ever sign another contract.

PRECISELY why LJ handled it like he did.

RevLimiter · Post by **RevLimiter** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:38 pm

HELL YES!!!

This changes everything.

Sin,

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:46 pm

RevLimiter wrote:HELL YES!!!

This changes everything.

Sin,

Isn't that the dude from Foo Fighters?

RevLimiter · Post by **RevLimiter** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:08 pm

BSmack wrote:Isn't that the dude from Foo Fighters?

You might be on to something.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:49 am

mvscal wrote:You just went from 4-12 to 6-10. Congratulations.

Concur.

RevLimiter · Post by **RevLimiter** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:17 pm

mvscal wrote:
War Wagon wrote:This changes everything.
You just went from 4-12 to 6-10. Congratulations.

And with head coach Norvelous you just went from 14-2 to 8-8.

Touche'.

RevLimiter · Post by **RevLimiter** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:41 pm

mvscal wrote:You're a fucking tard. The Chargers have talent. The Queefs don't. The End.

Douche'.

So you're telling us that Norvelous will go further in the playoffs than Marty did?

Tell me, exactly HOW MANY playoff games has The Pockmarked One won?

That's what I thought. Feel free to STFU now.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:10 pm

mvscal wrote:The only thing that's clear is that they'll walk away with the division again.

Well shoot, the AFC West might as well just cancel the regular season then. I mean, what's the point?

I'll remember these bold predictions.

Neely8 · Post by **Neely8** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:24 pm

Toddowen wrote:
Neely8 wrote:Thats why I love the Pats!!
Your shallow love started when they got a ring. Nobody had any idea that there was a pro football team in New England before that.

I was in Miami for the AFC Championship in 86 dumbass......

Eat hot lead already will you troll!!!

RevLimiter · Post by **RevLimiter** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:37 am

mvscal wrote:
RevLimiter wrote:So you're telling us that Norvelous will go further in the playoffs than Marty did?

I don't see much difference between the two. The only thing that's clear is that they'll walk away with the division again. After that? It's a crapshoot.

I do- Marty's won a LOT more games and division titles that Norv has.

Face it, Norv got handed the keys to a Corvette....and he'll have 4 flat tires and the transmission blown up in it by December.*

*Same applies to you too CowgirlFan. Bum's Son, Norvelous.....one and the same.

DallasFanatic · Post by **DallasFanatic** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:07 pm

Just get the 10 dollars ready tubby. I'll PM you by week 12.

RevLimiter · Post by **RevLimiter** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:02 pm

DallasFanatic wrote:Just get the 10 dollars ready tubby. I'll PM you by week 12.

WTF are you talking about?

DallasFanatic · Post by **DallasFanatic** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:21 pm

RevLimiter wrote:
DallasFanatic wrote:Just get the 10 dollars ready tubby. I'll PM you by week 12.
WTF are you talking about?

I guess that fat has clogged your brain.

Take a shit lap or 20

RumpleForeskin · Post by **RumpleForeskin** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:25 pm

This doesn't change the fact that the Cheifs will start the season 0-1.

RevLimiter · Post by **RevLimiter** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:11 pm

DallasFanatic wrote:
RevLimiter wrote:
DallasFanatic wrote:Just get the 10 dollars ready tubby. I'll PM you by week 12.
WTF are you talking about?
I guess that fat has clogged your brain.

Take a shit lap or 20

Don't be a dickhead....elaborate.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:25 pm

RevLimiter wrote:
DallasFanatic wrote:
RevLimiter wrote: WTF are you talking about?
I guess that fat has clogged your brain.

Take a shit lap or 20
Don't be a dickhead....elaborate.

It’s not that hard to follow. I think he’s suggesting that by week 12 Dallas will already have 8 wins, and you’ll owe him $10. Do you get this high from huffing Twinkie filling?

RevLimiter · Post by **RevLimiter** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:27 pm

Goober McTuber wrote:
RevLimiter wrote:
DallasFanatic wrote: I guess that fat has clogged your brain.

Take a shit lap or 20
Don't be a dickhead....elaborate.
It’s not that hard to follow. I think he’s suggesting that by week 12 Dallas will already have 8 wins, and you’ll owe him $10. Do you get this high from huffing Twinkie filling?

It's pretty simple....even for YOU Goobs. I forgot that DF and I had some kind of bet going. I asked DF to elaborate on the terms of said bet. I'm still WAITING for DF to respond. Feel free to go fuck yourself at any time, Goobs- your 2 cents is neither wanted nor appreciated.

DallasFanatic · Post by **DallasFanatic** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:34 pm

Let me hold your hand through this RuPaul Walker Lindh.

You said this shit post about the Boys.

"They will be the greatest trainwreck to watch in the NFL in '07, bar NONE"

I asked you ever so politely to clarify what it is you meant by "trainwreck", and to lay a wager.

You pussed out and clarified you meant that Wade Philips won't get the Boys past .500 ball. I hardly consider 8-8 a trainwreck (underachieve, yes), so I retorted,

"If you think a train wreck is 7-9, than why don't you lay a wager on it fatboy? Any amount is fine with me. Simple enough tubby?"

to which you responded "$10.00 is all I'll go."

So to recap, if the Boys finish 7-9 or worse, you get $10, 8-8 or better and you owe me $10.

get it?
sure?
want to go through it one more time dipshit?

Now go run some freakin laps

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:49 am

RevLimiter wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:
RevLimiter wrote: Don't be a dickhead....elaborate.
It’s not that hard to follow. I think he’s suggesting that by week 12 Dallas will already have 8 wins, and you’ll owe him $10. Do you get this high from huffing Twinkie filling?
It's pretty simple....even for YOU Goobs.

But obviously way too complicated for YOU, tubby.

rozy · Post by **rozy** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:26 am

What's with all this talk of the barely-above-mediocre Irving Cowboys in a L.J. thread?

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:50 am

rozy wrote:What's with all this talk of the barely-above-mediocre Irving Cowboys in a L.J. thread?

DF and Paul are haggling over a Happy Meal, and Goobs wants the toy.

rozy · Post by **rozy** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:02 am

So Rumple's making everyone Grimace?

RevLimiter · Post by **RevLimiter** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:05 am

DallasFanatic wrote:Let me hold your hand through this RuPaul Walker Lindh.

You said this shit post about the Boys.

"They will be the greatest trainwreck to watch in the NFL in '07, bar NONE"

I asked you ever so politely to clarify what it is you meant by "trainwreck", and to lay a wager.

You pussed out and clarified you meant that Wade Philips won't get the Boys past .500 ball. I hardly consider 8-8 a trainwreck (underachieve, yes), so I retorted,

"If you think a train wreck is 7-9, than why don't you lay a wager on it fatboy? Any amount is fine with me. Simple enough tubby?"

to which you responded "$10.00 is all I'll go."

So to recap, if the Boys finish 7-9 or worse, you get $10, 8-8 or better and you owe me $10.

get it?
sure?
want to go through it one more time dipshit?

Now go run some freakin laps

Must've been REAL hard for you to refresh my memory, DumbFuck.

Don't count on that 10 spot just yet....we'll just go ahead and let them play the season first.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:31 am

War Wagon wrote:
rozy wrote:What's with all this talk of the barely-above-mediocre Irving Cowboys in a L.J. thread?
DF and Paul are haggling over a Happy Meal, and Goobs wants the toy.

Paul is the toy. Tell me you knew.

RevLimiter · Post by **RevLimiter** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:50 pm

Goober McTuber wrote:

Maybe if I drop some Tabasco sauce on it he'll go away.

Sirfindafold · Post by **Sirfindafold** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:02 pm

Can LJ play QB?

RevLimiter · Post by **RevLimiter** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:05 pm

Sirfindafold wrote:Can LJ play QB?

John Elway would've gotten his ASS kicked behind that abortion of an offensive line last night.

Gonna be a LOOOOONG season here in the Midwest.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:43 pm

You're right, Paul.
LONG season comin'.

QB inexperience working behind a sub-par O-line??

Trouble.

The defense isn't nearly good enough to make up for what will be a woeful offense.
And as senile as Dickless was near the end of his KC run, he still had more offensive imagination in his little pinky than Herm has in his entire being.

I laffed watching the 'highlights' of the trainwreck last night.
Laffed more reading the stat line.

Many more laffs to come ........

RumpleForeskin · Post by **RumpleForeskin** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:06 pm

LJ will make a difference, but not that much of a difference. KC will be lucky to win 6 games this season. That defense will be good against the likes of the mediocre offenses in the league, but you obviously saw how ineffective they are against an offense like the Saints.

Texans will pwn them in week one.

RevLimiter · Post by **RevLimiter** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:26 pm

poptart wrote:You're right, Paul.
LONG season comin'.

QB inexperience working behind a sub-par O-line??

Trouble.

The defense isn't nearly good enough to make up for what will be a woeful offense.
And as senile as Dickless was near the end of his KC run, he still had more offensive imagination in his little pinky than Herm has in his entire being.

All true....unfortunately.

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 · Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:30 pm

RumpleForeskin wrote:If I lose, the sig can't be anything about my wife or a whytch of her.

Fuck that shit. If you lose the bet, you're saddled with that wildebeest as your Sig for a week.

Neely8 · Post by **Neely8** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:37 pm

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:
RumpleForeskin wrote:If I lose, the sig can't be anything about my wife or a whytch of her.

Fuck that shit. If you lose the bet, you're saddled with that wildebeest as your Sig for a week.

Funny enough he is saddled with it everynight at bedtime.....

Does it require a saddle to ride that thing?