Who's your best

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:20 am

i don't think so. i don't remember it. not on a regular basis at least.

BlindRef · Post by **BlindRef** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:49 am

#6 Harry Kipke

LESS THAN A WEEK!!!!!!!

WolverineSteve · Post by **WolverineSteve** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:09 am

BlindRef wrote:#6 Harry Kipke

LESS THAN A WEEK!!!!!!!

A great name in Michigan history...Trust us on this one Shoalz.
From the Bentley Library..
"One of Michigan's few nine lettermen in football, basketball, and baseball. Kipke was a brilliant performer in all the three sports. One of the Wolverine all-time greats as a punter, he booted with amazing accuracy. Following graduation in 1923, he had a highly successful life as a football coach, winning four Big Ten titles at Michigan, as a businessman, a Regent, and Civic leader. National Football Hall of Fame and Michigan Hall of Fame member. "

I'm actually going with Tyrone Wheatley. Dude was a man among boys in his day. His Rose Bowl performance against Washington rates as one of the best single game efforts I've ever seen. Ty had world class speed. He went to HS in down the road from me at Dearborn Hgts. Robichaud. He won a shitload of state titles in track and led the Bulldogs to a state title on the gridiron. He was a hero in HS and actually lived up to the hype in Ann Arbor.

As for #1, I'll deal with that in 5 days or so.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:46 am

6- Tim McDonald

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:03 pm

Terry in Crapchester · Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:02 pm

6 - Jerome Bettis.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:55 am

Jsc810 wrote:6 - LSU - Rohan Davey, QB, 1999-2001

All-SEC 2001 … Led LSU to SEC Championship Game that year.

and because I will be out of town tomorrow .....

5 - LSU - Skyler Green, WR/KR, 2002-05

All-American 2005 … Returned four career punts for touchdowns.

actually with LSU starting on thursday you should be on 4 and 3 by now

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:08 pm

#5 John Wangler

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:07 pm

5: Steve Davis. the ordained preacher/option QB from Sallisaw, OK. back to back NC's as a starter (74,75). 22-1 as a starter i think.

BlindRef · Post by **BlindRef** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:20 pm

Shoalzie wrote:#5 John Wangler

I dont' like Wangler for some reason, so I am going to stretch it a bit and go with Gordon Bell who was the starting running back for the 74 and 75 seasons.

WolverineSteve · Post by **WolverineSteve** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:26 pm

Shoalzie wrote:#5 John Wangler

Ding!!!! Now you're cooking kiddo! I knew you could do it.

Blind,
On the side of historical significance, I give the nod to Wangler. He was 1/2 of this beauty...

http://www.ufer.org/sounds/Wrangler_Carter.mp3

Everyone's heard the first part of the call, but this is an extended clip of Ufer's call of the historic play. Get's me fired up every time.

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:28 pm

I really wanted to say James Whitley or David Underwood but I figured I'd to give the nod to Wangler...

All kidding aside, he was a no-brainer for #5.

Terry in Crapchester · Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:04 pm

5 is a strong number for ND historically. I'll give the nod here to Paul Hornung, with an honorable mention to Elmer Layden (member of the Four Horsemen backfield, became ND's head coach after Rockne died).

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:11 pm

BlindRef · Post by **BlindRef** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:16 pm

WolverineSteve wrote:
Shoalzie wrote:#5 John Wangler
Ding!!!! Now you're cooking kiddo! I knew you could do it.

Blind,
On the side of historical significance, I give the nod to Wangler. He was 1/2 of this beauty...

http://www.ufer.org/sounds/Wrangler_Carter.mp3

Everyone's heard the first part of the call, but this is an extended clip of Ufer's call of the historic play. Get's me fired up every time.

I know the Carter catch...but I just don't like the guy.

I have no good reason. I think it comes from this WTKA discussion a few years ago where they were arguing over who was the best QB in Michigan history. Some asssssshole calls in and says "The one you are all forgetting about is Johnny Wangler"

I am sorry, nice guy, decent QB, not in the discussion of best QB at Michigan ever. He had just over a 50% completion rate in his career and threw a lot of ints in a time where throwing wasn't that common in Michigan History.

My boy Gordon Bell did this:

Att Yd+ Yd- Net Yd Yd/Att TD Lng
535 2988 86 2902 5.4 28 53

Plus he threw a TD pass against OSU in 1975

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:25 pm

# 6 - QB - Jim Bonds

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:30 pm

# 5 - DB - Kenny Easley - Jersey # retired

One of the best ever.

L45B · Post by **L45B** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:45 pm

#6 Cie Grant, LB/DB '99-02

#5 Michael Wiley, RB '96-99

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:02 pm

Hurrigangstah · Post by **Hurrigangstah** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:03 pm

thats what i talkin bout right there.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:21 am

5- Reggie Bush

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:45 am

SoCalTrjn wrote:5- Reggie Bush

No way!

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:03 am

4: Jamelle Holieway

HM: Elvis Peacock
2HM: George "Buster" Rhymes

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:12 am

4- Jason Oliver

BlindRef · Post by **BlindRef** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:21 am

#4 Fredo Corleone....errrr Jim Harbaugh

L45B · Post by **L45B** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:35 am

#4 Santonio Holmes, WR '02-05

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:16 pm

BlindRef wrote:

#4 Fredo Corleone....errrr Jim Harbaugh

Yeah, figured the diehard fans from the Bo days wouldn't be too fond of Harbaugh right about now. He's the obvious choice for #4...Marquise Walker gets honorable mention.

Tomorrow will be interesting...close race between two great DBs in recent Michigan history, who'll get the nod as #3? I have my pick...I'm curious to see what you two guys think.

Terry in Crapchester · Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:44 pm

4 is a conundrum for ND. Dorsey Levens is the best player ever to wear that number at ND. However, he only played two seasons at ND before transferring, so I have serious reservations about selecting him.

With that disclaimer in place, take your pick between Ryan Grant, Kory Minor or Mike Johnston (yeah, the talent level drops off pretty significantly after Levens).

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:18 pm

Terry in Crapchester wrote:4 is a conundrum for ND. Dorsey Levens is the best player ever to wear that number at ND. However, he only played two seasons at ND before transferring, so I have serious reservations about selecting him.

With that disclaimer in place, take your pick between Ryan Grant, Kory Minor or Mike Johnston (yeah, the talent level drops off pretty significantly after Levens).

I would go with Minor, with an HM to Lee Becton.

For #5, I would like to throw the name Rodney Culver in the mix. RIP.

Terry in Crapchester · Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:57 pm

Good call on Becton, I had forgotten about him.

You could make a case for an honorable mention for Rodney Culver at #5, but I can't justify selecting him ahead of Hornung. For that matter, you can also make a case for an honorable mention for Terry Hanratty at #5.

WolverineSteve · Post by **WolverineSteve** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:30 pm

Harbaugh is the choice at #4. His recent comments aside, Jim always had trouble keeping his Dorito chute in check. He did guarantee and deliver a victory over OSU in 87 ala Broadway Joe. I had hopes of him returning to AA to take over the program after Lloyd steps aside, but I don't think he ever sniffs the Big House again.

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:41 pm

# 4 - SS - Jarrad Page

Q, West Coast Style · Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:23 am

#4 Jason Hanson, K Washington State. There are a handfull of others for whom the same claim can probably be made, but Hanson may have been the best kicker in he history of the college game. He was also an All-American punter his junior year.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:12 am

3- Carson Palmer

L45B · Post by **L45B** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:36 am

#3 Dimitrious Stanley, WR '93-96

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:34 am

3 - Joe Montana

Lots of hm's.

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:06 pm

#3 Marlin Jackson...gets the slight nod over Tripp Welbourne because he had more career INTs. Both were tremendous DBs but not as good as the guy at #2.

Terry in Crapchester · Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:21 pm

Killian wrote:3 - Joe Montana

Lots of hm's.

What's your standard? If you're using what they accomplished in football, Montana is a no-brainer here. But I've been using what they accomplished specifically at ND.

In that regard, it's worth noting that Montana spent a considerable portion of his ND career battling the likes of Rusty Lisch and Gary Forystek for the #1 position on the depth chart. And his passing stats, even if you make allowance for the fact that passing rules were liberalized after he left school, were nothing to write home about, either. OTOH, of course, Montana was the starting QB for a national champion, and he became a legend at the next level.

On the standard I've been using, my choice would be Rick Mirer. Ran the option nearly as well as Tony Rice, and he was a much better passer on his worst day than Rice ever was in his wildest dreams. Montana merits an honorable mention, of course, as does Ron Powlus. Just off the top of my head, and there are certainly others.

RumpleForeskin · Post by **RumpleForeskin** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:50 pm

WolverineSteve · Post by **WolverineSteve** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:16 pm

#3 is Marlin. Tripp had his career cut short. I was at the game against Minnesota where he blew out his knee on a punt return. He was a fantastic talent, both as a db and returner. I remember that the next year vs. Minny Tony Boles blew out his knee. Fuck the Gophers.