What a dumbfuck

[Jimmy Medalions]

This idiot didn't even have Kal on the list. No real surprise this guy writes for a division 3 web page. Surprised you can't only access it using dial-up.

Clueless Dolt re: Worst Fans

[Jimmy Medalions]

And not a single SEC school on that list.

Yep. I am trolling this dolt via email right now. Told him he's a stupid idiot. He is shooting paper clips back at me. runn3d

[RadioFan]

I am trolling this dolt via email right now. Told him he's a stupid idiot. He is shooting paper clips back at me. runn3d

Post the responses.

[Killian]

And not a single SEC school on that list.

Yep. I am trolling this dolt via email right now. Told him he's a stupid idiot. He is shooting paper clips back at me. runn3d

Past that shit or your banned

[Jobocky]

putz. He makes no sense

Cow bells make a bad fan?
Schools that don't have an on-campus stadium means you have bad fans?
You can't root for your state school because you never attended?
Arrogance makes a bad fan?
Leaving early makes you a bad fan? Hey, there's a wild fire brewing

I sent him an email as well

[RadioFan]

You can't root for your state school because you never attended?

Actually, he does make a valid point on that one. Some of the worst fans of every school are those who not only didn't attend, but have no affiliation with the university, whatsoever (not even a dad or uncle who dropped out).

[M Club]

i'm confused by this:

Here’s an example of an atypical Ohio State fan:

When God created sports fans he gave some insight, some
intelligence and others are just the others. The ones who got
the insight went to THE Ohio State UNIVERSITY because
they knew a team like the BUCKEYES never rebuilds but
only reloads. The ones who got intelligence went to THE OHIO
STATE UIVERSITY or became OSU fans beause (sic)they saw
the benefit of having a great team with great tradition and as
a result they became even more intelligent. The rest are like
Waillele (sic) Sallas and they are just the others, too bad isn't it?

actually, i'm confused by most of what he wrote. why did you bother?

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

The guy reads like an m2 post.

When God created sports fans he gave some insight, some
intelligence and others are just the others.

Uhhh, what?

[Terry in Crapchester]

This idiot didn't even have Kal on the list.

If you read between the lines, dude is a Kal fan. Which is why they didn't make the list (although, in fairness, I'm not convinced that m2 is an accurate example of KalFan).

As for this:

If there’s one thing I hate more than fair-weather fans, its college football fans who never attended the university. Notre Dame has a slew of them.

As does just about every other 1-A school in the country with a substantial fan following. Newsflash: ND only has about 150,000 living alumni (and that's probably a generous estimate), so of course they're not going to be a big-time program without a substantial fan following outside of their students and alumni. ND also doesn't have the advantage of being anyone's State U, so to acquire a fan following, they've kinda sorta become National Catholic U.

The Irish also have a ton of fans who don’t really know much about football other than Notre Dame used to be really good. I’ll give you one example, the Irish faithful continue to contend the reason for their struggles this year is Ty Willingham. Ridiculous.

I suppose I could go here and lay heavy into the grammar smack, but since his point is (somewhat) understandable notwithstanding, I'll address it on its merits. Suffice it to say that while this take appears to be the stuff of interwebs legend this year, I've yet to see it for myself. And I certainly am not blaming Willingham.

[indyfrisco]

I'm with Jsc here. He probably feels slighted. LSU fans are hands down the worst. Even worse than taco tceh. The taco tossers just play tough. Deep down, I don't think they really mean the classless shit they do. Coon asses, however, are just stinking piles of shit who want to rub some of it on you.

I gotta stand up for the SEC, LSU and Jsc...they deserve some recognition for the worst fans in CFB. Se bon je! huh? Aheeeeee!

[King Crimson]

(although, in fairness, I'm not convinced that m2 is an accurate example of KalFan).

how can he be? all the visual evidence we've been given empirically shows most Kal fans are fat chicks or trannies.


I'm on board with LSU fan as the worst. They are like a mean-spirited bourbon fueled medieval circus.

[indyfrisco]

(although, in fairness, I'm not convinced that m2 is an accurate example of KalFan).

how can he be? all the visual evidence we've been given empirically shows most Kal fans are fat chicks or trannies.

I think because m2ool bangs fat chicks and trannies he feels he is a kalfan by proxy.

[King Crimson]

good point, indy.

[Killian]

Horror stories about LSU Fan are largely urban legends. Sure, over the years there have been some isolated incidents, as there have been at other places.

We like to drink and eat and party and have a good time, not fight. Laissez les bon ton roulet! (Let the good times roll!)

Not with ND fans they're not.

[Dinsdale]

If you read between the lines, dude is a Kal fan.

That's the impression I came away with, as well.

Right before dude started insulting fans who root for schools they didn't attend... and telling us he went to Arizona.

(although, in fairness, I'm not convinced that m2 is an accurate example of KalFan).

Well, as PAC10 guy, and a person who just dealt with large amounts of Kalfan in the environs of a Kal game...

I'd say mToolio isn't really an accurate example of Kalfan.

He's way more masculine than the average Kalfan, and seems to know a great deal more about football.




And because teams like Texas et al get what's basically "default fanship" from the general populace of their region who doesn't have a specific dog in the fight due to not attending a school with BIG TIME POWER COLLEGE FOOTBALL, that makes them "bad fans"?

Wouldn't roping in fans who didn't attend the university be a good thing, making a larger fanbase?

Farmers often don't get the opportunity to attend college. They can't be fans of a major university? A kid from Austin who went into the Marines after high school isn't allowed to root for Texas? Or A&M? Or whatever team he grew up rooting for on TV when he was a kid? If you're from Bumfucked Nebraska, you're a "bad fan" if you attended community college, but are still on board with Big Red?


I'm so far from grasping the logic behind this, I've quit trying to figure it out.

I'm guessing that among people who didn't attend a university with a D1A powerhouse, for whatever reason, I'm guessing that Christians in general are more likely to root for a band of marauding Golden Catholics than an outfit named the Lions... some of those Christers still hold a grudge from wayback.

[SunCoastSooner]

You can't root for your state school because you never attended?

Actually, he does make a valid point on that one. Some of the worst fans of every school are those who not only didn't attend, but have no affiliation with the university, whatsoever (not even a dad or uncle who dropped out).

Been reading OU Insider I see...

I'll jump on the LSwho wagon as well. Hands down the worst fans I have ever been around both at the bar and at a game...

[L45B]

I have found that Auburn fans can be the nicest, classiest folks at a game.

Don't know how they are at games, but in general I'd say they are pretty classy. And they love their football.

A little off topic, but about a month ago I met this AU chick in Scottsdale. She was pretty smokin' but of course her douchebag boyfriend was lurking around at the other end of the bar. She and I got to talkin' about War Eagle and the inconsistencies of Brandon Cox and before long she started spilling all the shit that's been pissing her off lately regarding her boyfriend. One of those details being that he hated CFB and once fell asleep in the first quarter of an Auburn game. Normally, I live a very Mother Corleone-way of life and do not interfere with the personal lives of others, but I told her straight up (with the dude staring right at me) that she needed to drop the Citadel right off the schedule, so to speak. Never did get her number or bang her in the men's bathroom, for that matter, but they were arguing for the rest of the night and I'm pretty sure she left without him. Which made me feel good.. about me.

[indyfrisco]

It's a whole new topic, but everyone has their own opinion on what constitutes a fan. Most of us who attended the university we root for generally feel a little more of a fan because of personal experience at the institution. I'm really indifferent. There are some pet peaves I do have when it comes to fans though.

1. Bandwagon - Last year, here in Southern Indiana, you would not believe the amount of t.u. gear I saw being sported. People traded in their USC gear for t.u. Now there's a lot of floriduh gear around. Fucking hate the yearly bandwagoners. Those are not fans.

2. Dual fandom different sports - Otherwise known as your Cicerown25. No explanation needed. Got a buddy here who likes Miami in football and Kentucky in basketball. Nice guy and a friend but he is not a real fan.

3. Dual fandom same sports - Otherwise known as your Jsc810. I like LSU because I live near there. I like TCU because I went there. I like Notre Dame because I saw a clover today. I still don't know what irks me more, DFDS or DFSS. This is no real fan.

4. Die hard WE fan no affiliation - Also referred to as the m2 fan. I think this is the one that pisses me off the most. The fan who has no affiliation whatsoever with a school that not only pimps them but is the in your face "WE kicked your ASS!" if the team they root for beat your team. This fan will generally turn the WE back around on you and asked if you played for your alma mater. Most alums refer to their alma mater as WE because you attended. I did not attend the Tennessee Titans University so I don't say WE when referring to that team I root for.

5. 50 Bachelor Fan - also known as the Atomic Punk. This Fan attended almost every major Div 1A program at some point in their life.

All in all, I'm sure we all have our variations of fans. These are just some of mine.

[Killian]

2. Dual fandom different sports - Otherwise known as your Cicerown25. No explanation needed. Got a buddy here who likes Miami in football and Kentucky in basketball. Nice guy and a friend but he is not a real fan.

3. Dual fandom same sports - Otherwise known as your Jsc810. I like LSU because I live near there. I like TCU because I went there. I like Notre Dame because I saw a clover today. I still don't know what irks me more, DFDS or DFSS. This is no real fan.

In my opinion, it's no contest that #2 is worse than #3. I pull for Notre Dame in everything. Always have, always will. But I also want to see MSU do well (graduate) and a few other schools here and there (for some reason, I've alwayse like Syracuse). So I have no issue with that. But the "I'm a Tennessee football fan and Kentucky basketball fan" pisses me right the fuck off. I did that when I was 10 because I didn't get to see ND play basketball. I don't really give a fuck about basketball, but if I root, I root for ND.

You see a lot of these fans here in Michigan. You have the Wallmart Wolverines during football season, and the Save-alot Spartans during basketball season. Choose one and fucking root for it. You shouldn't have to figure out what sport is being played to decided what gear to slip on.

[Terry in Crapchester]

If you read between the lines, dude is a Kal fan.

That's the impression I came away with, as well.

Right before dude started insulting fans who root for schools they didn't attend... and telling us he went to Arizona.

I shouldn't skim these articles.

[Dinsdale]

No, I was agreeing with you Terry. Sounded like some Kal homerism going on there, then he says non-alum fans suck, then says he went to Zona.

That puts him out of the "take it with a grain of salt" ranks, and graduates him to :bigfatrolleyes: material.

[Terry in Crapchester]

2. Dual fandom different sports - Otherwise known as your Cicerown25. No explanation needed. Got a buddy here who likes Miami in football and Kentucky in basketball. Nice guy and a friend but he is not a real fan.

This has always bothered me too for some reason. Around these parts, you see a fair share of Penn State football/Syracuse basketball fans. Of course, those fans are, in each sport, following the team with the most success. Then again, so is Cicerown25.

3. Dual fandom same sports - Otherwise known as your Jsc810. I like LSU because I live near there. I like TCU because I went there. I like Notre Dame because I saw a clover today. I still don't know what irks me more, DFDS or DFSS. This is no real fan.

I have to plead guilty to this one, albeit to a much more limited extent than JSC.

Growing up, I was a fan of Penn State in addition to ND. When I first started following sports, Penn State was eastern college football, at least at this level. Syracuse was horrible back then, and I was 12 by the time Pitt won a national championship with Dorsett. So that left Penn State in the east. But ND was always a clear #1 and Penn State #2. Or at least, it was very clear in my mind. If I were pressed for a #2 team, I'd probably still say Penn State, but since I went to ND the schism between #1 and #2 has only widened.

I'm more guilty of this in basketball. I also root for Syracuse when they aren't playing ND. I also root for Pepperdine in basketball on a limited basis since I went to law school there.

4. Die hard WE fan no affiliation - Also referred to as the m2 fan. I think this is the one that pisses me off the most. The fan who has no affiliation whatsoever with a school that not only pimps them but is the in your face "WE kicked your ASS!" if the team they root for beat your team. This fan will generally turn the WE back around on you and asked if you played for your alma mater. Most alums refer to their alma mater as WE because you attended. I did not attend the Tennessee Titans University so I don't say WE when referring to that team I root for.

5. 50 Bachelor Fan - also known as the Atomic Punk. This Fan attended almost every major Div 1A program at some point in their life.

In fairness to m2, IIRC he did attend Cal for one semester. So I suppose he has some connection to Cal, similar to Babs' connection to Michigan State, at least.

The second part of #4, i.e.

This fan will generally turn the WE back around on you and asked if you played for your alma mater. Most alums refer to their alma mater as WE because you attended. I did not attend the Tennessee Titans University so I don't say WE when referring to that team I root for.

applies to AP as well. He turned the WE around on me with respect to ND in precisely the manner you mention. Yeah, he did so as something of a general pet peeve, but there are far more appropriate examples elsewhere on this board to vent this particular pet peeve than at me within that context.

Here, to me, is the difference between college and pro sports teams: the largest universities that play sports at the 1-A level have an enrollment of maybe 50-60,000 students at any given time. By contrast, the smallest metropolitan areas that support pro sports teams at the major league level have populations ten times that amount. Or more. The connection between a college sports team and the college/university it represents is far, far more intimate than is the connection between any major league pro sports team and the metropolitan area it represents. For that reason, any college sports fan who roots for a college team that represents a school he/she graduated from has earned the right to use the term "WE" in referring to that team, at least imho (note: in saying this, I'm not denigrating the subway alumni, and I certainly recognize their importance to ND's tradition, but there's a closer connection to the actual alumni).

[Shine]

2. Dual fandom different sports - Otherwise known as your Cicerown25. No explanation needed. Got a buddy here who likes Miami in football and Kentucky in basketball. Nice guy and a friend but he is not a real fan.

Perhaps geographically influenced but you may as well call this the Notre Dame rule. TONS of folks around these parts are ND fans for football and IU/PU/Butler/etc. fans in basketball.

[indyfrisco]

Shine,

I've really not seen that. I know quite a few ND fans down here and none, that I know of, are NF FB and IU, ETC. BB.

[Danimal]

1. Bandwagon - Last year, here in Southern Indiana, you would not believe the amount of t.u. gear I saw being sported. People traded in their USC gear for t.u. Now there's a lot of floriduh gear around. Fucking hate the yearly bandwagoners. Those are not fans.



I saw a shitload of Texas gear after they beat USC, you even see that crap here in Nebraska. I cheered for the horns in that game but suddenly running around in their gear is the epitome of bandwagoning. Although that is still not quite as annoying as the dipshits that(when were better and lost much more rarely) ran out and got the gear of whomever had beaten us like FSU or OU. No that doesn't make you cool or a rebel, it just makes you a douchebag.

[Terry in Crapchester]

Shine,

I've really not seen that. I know quite a few ND fans down here and none, that I know of, are NF FB and IU, ETC. BB.

Just a guess, but it may have something to do with the age of the people in question.

If I were 10 years younger than I am, but everything else in my life was the same, I have no doubt I'd still be a ND football fan. In basketball, however, I'd probably root for ND because I went there, but I would call some other school, likely Syracuse, my basketball team.

Kids tend to become fans of more successful programs. ND had a very strong basketball program in the 70's. In fact, after ND beat DePaul by 20 to reach the Final Four in '78, Al McGuire said that ND was the next basketball dynasty.

That didn't happen, of course. But ND came so close to being a basketball power that it's enough to make you cry if you're a fan of the team. The team had been sucessful enough, when I was a kid, that I came to ND a basketball fan in addition to a football fan. However, the basketball program declined enough after that, that I'm not sure I can say the same for the people who came after me.

ND has pulled out of the basketball tailspin somewhat over the past ten years, but I'm afraid that the window of opportunity to take the program to the truly elite level has now closed forever.

Burn in hell, Danny Ainge.

[Jimmy Medalions]

although, in fairness, I'm not convinced that m2 is an accurate example of KalFan

Let me lay it out for you.

Team winning: show up, talk lots of crap and be completely saturated in myopia

Team losing:

Team winning again: been here all along, huge fan, talk lots of crap and be completely saturated in myopia

Team losing:

rinse, repeat


m2ool is a prototypical 5-star Kalfan.

[Shine]

Shine,

I've really not seen that. I know quite a few ND fans down here and none, that I know of, are NF FB and IU, ETC. BB.

The Bloomington campus is (at least was) crawling with these jokes of fans. Even worse, the ND gear would only be sported when ND was winning. The Indy burbs have a fairly high population of these schmohawks too.

[M Club]

i think there's a lot of gray area to consider when criticizing frisco's dfds, especially if those allegiances were developed in grammar or high school, before university was an actual decision to be considered.

1. college teams are treated as professional sports, at least until it comes time to consider stipends for athletes or institute a playoff for ceollege football, then the athletes become "students." successful teams obviously generate more interest than losing teams, so naturally the media gives them more play and the community lends its support. it's perfectly reasonable to expect a 10-year-old in in southern indiana to love iu basketball and not even realize the same school has a football team. it's the environment he grew up in.

2. some ppl are simply reasonable bandwagon fans. or at least i think i'm one. the only sport i really care about is michigan football. as far as basketball goes, i could care less most of the time. i'd love to see michigan do well, but since they generally end up 4-26 i have no issue watching msu in the tournament with my state friends and hoping they do well. it's not like i'm going to run around saying we're number one or head off to the other steve and barry's to buy a state hoodie. the extent of my joy is, oh, cool. i still root for umich when they play msu.

3. being a college fan is a form of elitism. ppl who attended the school they root for are always looking for ways to differentiate themselves from the general population. that's fine, you went to the school and experienced a spirit week or two, you've had firsthand experience with all the pageantry and traditions, but if attending the university was what made for a real fan then we'd all be a bit more interested in our high schools' teams than i assume most of us are.

4. i root for brigham young cross-country.

[SoCalTrjn]

LSU fans hands down, my cousins fiance is from the south, went to Miss St or something and she tells of when LSU fans threw beer and other stuff on her at a game when she was about 6 years old. Sounds like the most classless fans in the history of American sports and on par with South American Pitch Diving fans.
LA Police set records every other year when feCal fans come to LA, if LSU fans ever made the trip, sounds like half of them would leave in cuffs

[Screw_Michigan]

it's perfectly reasonable to expect a 10-year-old in in southern indiana to love iu basketball and not even realize the same school has a football team. it's the environment he grew up in.

no, it's not. you have to be one ignorant indianan dumbfuck to not realize iu has a football team. while it would make perfect sense considering how much of a absolute shithole this place is, it's far from perfectly reasonable.

kil, you must live in jackson or something, or a place in between east lansing and ann arbor. i've never once in my 20+ years in michigan seen or heard about someone who rooted for scu-m football and msu basketball.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Really? I know a guy who graduated from Michigan and roots for the Wolverinies in football, and State in b-ball.

Needless to say, he's a giant douche.

[MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan]

I don't really see a problem with having "back-up" teams to root for, as long as you're consistent with your #1 favorite. I will root for CU over anyone in any sport, but I also like to see CSU and AF do well in football, simply because they're from Colorado. In basketball, I also kind of root for Mizzou. I had a buddy from KC when I was growing up who was a Mizzou fan and I just kind of latched onto them back in the Derrek Cheivous (sp?) era.

By the same token, the teams I hate also change from sport to sport. I would actually root for the Huskers over a number of teams in basketball. I despise Kansas & UNC in basketball, but I'm pretty neutral on their football teams.

[Shine]

Addressing the dual sport fan, an interesting topic for the IF clan. Pops is a ATM guy while moms is an IU gal. The potential for a dual fan looms large for the IF offspring. Although the way ATM is going lately IU football might be just as/more appealing of an option.

[Jimmy Medalions]

And not a single SEC school on that list.

Yep. I am trolling this dolt via email right now. Told him he's a stupid idiot. He is shooting paper clips back at me. runn3d

Past that shit or your banned

Re: worst 7 fans

You are smoking dope if you leave Cal fans off the list, and make that crack if you don't put them at number one. Ever been to Berkeley? I have, and win or lose you can be guaranteed to have garbage thrown at you, cuss words spewed at your wife and so forth.

And like UCLA fans, when they're getting stomped they leave. I've seen it happen too many times.

You are either clueless, or grossly misinformed. I guess that's why you write for a division 2 web page.

Someone has a lot of free time on their hands. Thanks for making me laugh.

[indyfrisco]

Addressing the dual sport fan, an interesting topic for the IF clan. Pops is a ATM guy while moms is an IU gal. The potential for a dual fan looms large for the IF offspring. Although the way ATM is going lately IU football might be just as/more appealing of an option.

I'll try my damdest to get the boy to be an Aggie fan. At some level, he will be. And I'd love for nothing more than for him to attend A&M. Not sure how I would handle him being that far away. Thank God that is a long ways down the road anyway. If the one that is due next month is a girl, she's going to local community college. Her chastity belt will not be allowed out of the city limits.

And I'll tell the boy to pick one, not both or neither. Up to him who he wants to root for. I wouldn't be hurt if he picked IU. It's local. I actually like IU's campus. reminds me a lot of A&M's campus. Great basketball tradition. Then again, the way A&M's basketball is coming around, he may opt for that one instead of AT&TGate.

[The Seer]

No one merits getting the shit kicked out of them more than the SoCal resident that claims he is a usc football and UCLA basketball fan.