Jim Webb--Kicking McCain's Ass (easily)

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Gee, guess who Obama's Vice President will be.



You've probably seen him, perhaps delivering the opposition response to one of the Chimp's fatuous State of the Union b.s. sessions. Well, get ready, because Jim Webb's military career makes McCain's look like a flaming poop bag by comparison. And besides his courageous work with the Keating Seven, what else does McCain have?

Game Over (before it began).

War Obama and Webb.

[Dinsdale]

Keating Seven

Uhm...



Nevermind.

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Yeah, there was a couple that got away undetected. Same with Enron, btw.

[PSUFAN]

Wasn't it mvscal, and didn't he donate the winnings to charity?

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Game Over (before it began).

I'll take McCain and whoever he picks for VP, you take Obama.

The loser donates $100 to the winner's charity of choice. Deal?

Deal.
McCain's short list, btw, is a little embarrassing. Let's see, elbowing his way to the front of the line,

it's Casino Greeter


Sure, a robotic Mormon war freak. Next.

It's Uber-Cunt II


Fresh from her forced resignation (and her successor's indictment), she'll look great after Hillary gets dragged from the Demo convention floor in a straightjacket.

'Course the ol' POW might just go "all in" with God, etc.


Add to this pathetic short list the fact that McCain obviously shouldn't be entrusted carrying sharp scissors, let alone presidential authority, and...I'll choose my charity now , thanks.

I trust you can see the website of this brave organization.

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"dumbshit"? Huh? Compared to such lights as

Worst President Ever


or

"Stupidest Son of a Bitch on the Planet"


or
"Who's Al Kaida, again? Did he donate?"


Go ahead with your tired, played out bratty bigotry. You and your fake heroes are done.

[Mikey]

What are you going do when November rolls around and it has become abundantly clear that the war in Iraq is winding down to a successful conclusion?

LOL.

Which November are you referring to?

[Risa]

I'm talking about this November of course. The ISF are improving and gaining in confidence daily. Their recent operations in Basra and now in Baghdad demonstrated that they can handle their business with minimal support from US troops. That is the sign we've been waiting for.

I would expect a fairly sizable drawdown to begin sometime this fall and continue throughout 09 regardless of who wins our election.

So the October surprise is going to be temporary peace in the middle east? I'm not buying this shit anymore. And Jim Webb needs to cut his hair. Thinning can be nice. Pouffy, not so much.

[BSmack]

It's not a surprise to anybody who is paying attention. Gen. Petraeus is due to present his force level recomendations in September.

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The Sunni Islamists have been kicked in the pills and Sadr just got worked like a heavy bag. Tough sledding for the great jihad in Iraq.

The insurgency is in it's last throes again?



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[BSmack]

Is that supposed to mean something or have any relevance whatsoever to events of the past few months?

It means I trust nothing this government has to say. And if you do, you're a fucking idiot.

[Goober McTuber]

I'm not buying this shit anymore. And Jim Webb needs to cut his hair. Thinning can be nice. Pouffy, not so much.

Does this mean you’ll be shaving your cooter then?

“Jeeves, fetch me my weedwhacker!”

[Tom In VA]

I'm a big fan of Jim Webb. In fact I wish he would be the DNC nominee for president.

[Goober McTuber]

I'm a big fan of Jim Webb. In fact I wish he would be the DNC nominee for president.

If he’s Obama's VP, he’ll be president soon enough, right?

[Tom In VA]

I'm a big fan of Jim Webb. In fact I wish he would be the DNC nominee for president.

If he’s Obama's VP, he’ll be president soon enough, right?

If Obama wins 2012, it's entirely possible, but even then Webb couldn't run until 2016 and I got money riding on the Mayans.

[Goober McTuber]

I'm a big fan of Jim Webb. In fact I wish he would be the DNC nominee for president.

If he’s Obama's VP, he’ll be president soon enough, right?

If Obama wins 2012, it's entirely possible, but even then Webb couldn't run until 2016 and I got money riding on the Mayans.

Sorry. I thought you were one of the frightened little monkeys who figure that if Obama gets elected, he’ll be assassinated, we’ll have riots, etc.

[Tom In VA]

Sorry. I thought

That's usually your mistake. Stop thinking, it's never worked for you before.

[Goober McTuber]

Sorry. I thought

That's usually your mistake. Stop thinking, it's never worked for you before.

That's some really fresh cutting edge smack you got there.

[Cuda]

Sorry. I thought you were one of the frightened little monkeys who figure that if Obama gets elected, he’ll be assassinated, we’ll have riots, etc.

We're gonna have riots no matter what

If Hitlery steals the nomination away from Onignog, the jigs will riot

If Onignog gets the nomination and loses the general election, the jigs will riot

And if by some sick twist of fate, Onignog wins in November, the jigs will riot in celebration

Inevitable

[White Cock]

Sorry. I thought you were one of the frightened little monkeys who figure that if Obama gets elected, he’ll be assassinated, we’ll have riots, etc.

We're gonna have riots no matter what

If Hitlery steals the nomination away from Onignog, the jigs will riot

If Onignog gets the nomination and loses the general election, the jigs will riot

And if by some sick twist of fate, Onignog wins in November, the jigs will riot in celebration

Inevitable

Now there is some real and genuine racist shit going on for you in that post.

True colors showing...

[Mikey]

Anybody who can write songs like "By the Time I Get to Phoenix", "Galveston" and "Up Up and Away" is OK for VP in my book.

[OCmike]

What are you going do when November rolls around and it has become abundantly clear that the war in Iraq is winding down to a successful conclusion?

Prepare for the war against Iran?

[Dinsdale]

Prepare for the war against Iran?

Seems to be Hillary and McCains platform, eh?

Since we have so much extra money laying about to do so.

Newsflash -- Iran is a failing country, thanks to the Ayatollah and his lap dog I'manidiotman.

The reason their current regime hasn't been steamrolled by the Iranian people is because they've been bought. Last I eard, Iranians were paying about $0.36 a gollon for gas. Here's the catch -- the cheap gas is subsidized by the Iranian government. Here's te other catch -- the Iranian government pays about the same for gas as you and I.

See the problem?

Yup, a traditional giant in the oil business chose to spend its cash on hooking their disenfranchised people up with ceap gas, rather than repairing their pipelines and refineries. What's been a titan of the oil industry now can't even keep up with their own country of ~50,000,000's gasoline demand. And they've created a ruse that nuclear power is their long-term solution to long-term energy needs in a developing country... which on the surface makes sense, since Iran has decent uranium reserves. But they've sold out teir short-term survival to sell a pipe-dream of future energy autonomy to their people. And the only sales pitch they have is "just look at the cheap gas... we've got you taken care of."

But Iranians are slowly seeing the ruse, despite Ahmadenajad's veil over it. The're selling out Iranians long-term future, their short-term future, and the present to hang on to their tenuous grip on power, and that only grip is the cheap energy they offer their people. But it isn't free, and they invest essentially all of their financial resources keeping that cheap energy flowing to stay in good graces, rather than rebuilding their national infrastructure.

At some point, that house of cards is going to collapse. I recently saw a financial analyst speculate that the breaking point is less than 5 years away.

The best strategy to employ aainst Iran's current regime is to do nothing. And it's cheap, too. The Persians are a strong, proud people, traditionally. Its unlikely they're going to sit back and let the Ayatollah and his minions continue to run willy-nilly after they bankrupt a bigtime oil-producing nation.


And cross your fingers that the next government is profit-oriented like UAE, rather than Muslim-nutso like Syria and present-day Iran.


Since every intelligence agency in the world, including the USA says that Iran isn't developing nuke bombs, and has confirmed they abandon the weapons program in 2003, where's the problem? If they do try and arm a weapon, they cease to exist. If they supply another country with weaons-grade uranium, it's tracable, and the'll cease to exist. They're a hop skip and a jump from Russia, who is watching their enrichment facility like a awk, and has an even greater vested interest in them not blowing stuff up than we do.

For once, maybe we should let Russia foot the bill, and we get to sit back a reap te benefits without a huge outlay of cash.

For this reason alone, McCain and Hillary are unacceptable candidates. Sorry, I can't e behind being billed for an Oil Wa, only to have the oil companies who benefitted from it charge me extra.

The definition of "insanity" is repeating the same thin over and over and expecting different results each time. Oil wars don't work -- so don't bill me for another one.

[PSUFAN]

I don't think it's wise for Israel to enter into a direct conflict with Iran - way too volatile. Israel should conserve military resources in the event that other nations attack them - they should retain a defensive posture. Lesson learned from Iraq? You run out of bombs pretty quick. Iran is not the only opponent Israel has that can reach them.

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The best strategy to employ aainst Iran's current regime is to do nothing.

Actually the best strategy is to bomb their refineries, bomb their oil terminals and pipelines and subsidize terrorist attacks against them.

We are already at war with Iran, idiot. I suggest you wake up to that fact and start dealing with it.

Who's at war with Iran? Iran has never attacked anyone since Darius II, as you well know. The current hysterical alarms concerning Iran are nothing but the ongoing rolling bile of Israel and its moronic minions. And that's you, babs, you pathetic Rove Monkey.

So, Iraq is turning the corner and our colassal goat fuck of a Quagmire is going to be proven a solid and sound act of Liberation after all?

Are you totally drunk all day long?

You and ALL the proponents of this ghastly act of criminal aggression have been already proven completely wrong. The palsied spin of Petraeus has grown tedious, repetitive and hollow. Moreover, the catastrophic effects of the Worst American Crime (since Viet Nam) are just beginning to take shape.

Obviously, Obama and Webb will have an extremely tough time salvaging the best results from a flat-out No Win situation. But it's a BIG start.

As for the Chimp and his demented legion of Ziocons and corporate looters, they will quickly be regarded as criminally incompetent failures, and their legacy will be one of shame and disgust.

"But...I'm very intelligent!" "Not really, now you have the right to remain...."

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Prepare for the war against Iran?

Newsflash -- Iran is a failing country, thanks to the Ayatollah and his lap dog I'manidiotman.

At some point, that house of cards is going to collapse. I recently saw a financial analyst speculate that the breaking point is less than 5 years away.

.

Hi, I'm a seething Ziocon criminal currently languishing in a U.S. maximum security prison for spying on America. I don't understand this..am I just a token?...so that the usual complete coordination between our governments can continue unabated? I don't like this food, though I'm not losing weight. Sure, I'm the so-called "financial analyst" whose "expert" opinion was used in the fake smear on Iran. It's total bullshit, just standard CIA ops. I got some extra food rations out of the deal, but of course was glad just to help in defeating out ancient enemy. Perhaps when Olmert gets run (any day now), and Bibi takes over, he'll get me released. It worked for Mark Rich.

[Terry in Crapchester]

What are you going do when November rolls around and it has become abundantly clear that the war in Iraq is winding down to a successful conclusion?

If you believe that, I have a bridge for sale, real cheap.

It's in Brooklyn, btw.

[Risa]

What are you going do when November rolls around and it has become abundantly clear that the war in Iraq is winding down to a successful conclusion?

If you believe that, I have a bridge for sale, real cheap.

It's in Brooklyn, btw.

Yeah. :? Even Pickle said 2 weeks ago that mvscal was off his A-game. These past couple days prove it. Or maybe mvscal just has to define what he means by 'successful conclusion'? or maybe he's being clever and actually referencing Democrat noise about getting out of Iraq post-haste. I don't know.

mvscal, please edify.

[indyfrisco]

Gen. Petraeus is due

Thanks you for these titles, Mr. mvscal. I wills be sures to make good on yours confidences in me.

Sin,

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Or maybe mvscal just has to define what he means by 'successful conclusion'?

mvscal, please edify.

The "successful conclusion" is and always has been the establishment of a stable WALL in Sadr City, a puppet Iraqi government that is amenable to our interests and is capable of defending itself against domestic revolt. We're getting there. We're learning as we go. Recent military operations have shown the ISF is capable of draining massive amounts of cash while maintaining the instability. That is a very promising sign. If they continue to build on that success, we will be able to argue further against beginning any draw down by the end of the year. Five years might be an eternity in politics, but as a corporate contracting feeding frenzy, it's a great bonanza. Iraq will be fine.

Babs, I've Fixed This For you.

Frankly, your weird, robotic recitation of the Neocon line is even creepier than your normal bratty bigotry, your lame attempts at smack, and your fake expertise combined.

This is what's happening in Iraq. This is what the Ziocons sought, wrought, and bought (with your tax-dollars).


Wakey Wake

[Bizzarofelice]

Jim Webb has a fat mouth that says things that get him into trouble.

Jim Webb will remain on the sideline.

[MadRussian]

I don't think it's wise for Israel to enter into a direct conflict with Iran - way too volatile. Israel should conserve military resources in the event that other nations attack them - they should retain a defensive posture. Lesson learned from Iraq? You run out of bombs pretty quick. Iran is not the only opponent Israel has that can reach them.

I disagree. It would be a great thing for Isreal and the arab nations to completely obliterate each other. I would much perfer if the middle east were just one giant sandbox.

Gonna have to Rack teh Pikkkle

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Jim Webb has a fat mouth that says things that get him into trouble.

Jim Webb will remain on the sideline.

Wrong, Bizzer. In fact Webb is very circumspect and careful in his statements. The only knock on him is his "inexperience," which quickly turns into a positive when we consider that he was the Secretary Of Navy under Reagan, as well as working in the pentagon for several years. His military record, as suggested, is far more heroic and detailed than McCain's tour in a box.

No, the real threat, the real torpedo coming in is in the ghastly spector of Hillary wedging her way into the veep seat. This must not occur. (Insert joke here)

WW

[Tom In VA]

His military record, as suggested, is far more heroic and detailed than McCain's tour in a box.

Politics aside.

Bullshit and FUCK YOU.

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Really, Tom? Care to back up your typically sputtered ejaculation?

Are you suggesting that McCain has some sort of heroic military record? Getting shot down and captured? Held in box for five years? Huh? That's pathetic, and tragic, and considering he was in the act of attempting to murder citizens of a nation that attacked no one, but merely wanted to be free of foreign occupation, appropriate. But, it's not heroic. Such an experience surely qualifies him for extensive therapy, but nothing else. His vile corruption in the service of "deregulation" has been duly noted. The only real question is why he didn't resign upon the revelations of his facillitating the Keating Five. Suffice to say, he's a mincing little weasal with a serious anger issue.

Jim Webb, meanwhile, was awarded two purple hearts, two silver stars, and the Navy Cross. I'm assuming you're aware of the prestige of these particular medals.

So...what was your splooging splatter again? WHAT have you really got to say?

WW

[Tom In VA]

Personally I don't have the right to minimize anyone's service record.


I take umbrage in the fact you would minimize McCain's. Nodding to Webb's service record is correct and righteous. Minimizing McCain's is not.


McCain and Webb were fighting the same people, so if you want to dig out your little Ho Chi Minh shirt, motherfuck the both of them and be consistent.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Someone get Frisco a tampon. Stat.

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First, Webb has (carefully) expressed regret at the overall U.S. policy that included the invasion of Viet Nam. At the time, of course, the Korean model still held some ghastly cache, especially among such demented Military Corporate Complex types as Curtis LeMay. Duplicity and outright lies and schemes led to the invasion, and the rest is the most grotesque crime in American history--until Iraq and Afghanistan.
Webb's own son is currently in Iraq. And Jim is dead opposed to it. That's what you call a family tradition crossed with an active moral conscience, and it's not so bad. Especially when you consider that the people who have advocated and instigated the current catastrophe in Iraq are all chickenhawks. Cheney and ALL of the Ziocon dual citizens are chickenhawks. Webb is the opposite, a true patriot.


Chickenhawk


Actual military hero (with functioning moral conscience)



T-in Va, your automatic respect for a veteran's service record is misplaced with McCain. Had he simply come home to therapy and a firm career as family man, fine. But he's shamelessly parlayed a military "career" of being in a box for five years--and that's it, no more, no less--into a national political career. And this makes it open to and demanding of close scrutiny. As it is, many men were held prisoner for years, and beyond their surviving of their ordeal would never call their actions heroic. McCain has proven by the character displayed in his disgraceful actions in aiding the criminal Keating Five that he is not of "heroic" stuff at all. For such men to use their military record--even if it was heroic--to gain power is beneath contempt. So why extend him the standard respect? Or what...the Keating Five incident was not indicitive?

Proponent of "Deregulation"


War Heroes and various Deregulationists

[War Wagon]

...he's shamelessly parlayed a military "carreer" of being in a box for five years--and that's it, no more, no less--

Would that your career included 5 years in a box, starting now. Let us know how that went for you... in 2013.

[LTS TRN 2]

First, Webb has (carefully) expressed regret at the overall U.S. policy that included the invasion of Viet Nam.

Link? I just quoted him supporting Vietnam.

What..he's going to kiss off a huge generation of Nam vets? His quote is a perfect example of very careful parsing. He's a real writer. It's not necessarily disingenuous. For example, I too could mount an argument to "justify the reasons" for invading Viet Nam. It doesn't mean I necessarily believe it. Or rather, that such an argument isn't subsumed by larger, far more practical perspective. And such a perspective is indicated in much of Webb's other carefully prepared prose and remarks. His opposition to the Iraq invasion is real, and indicates much more than the mealy pawings of Reid and Pelosi.

[War Wagon]

I too could mount an argument to "justify the reasons" for invading Viet Nam.

yet earlier...

Duplicity and outright lies and schemes led to the invasion, and the rest is the most grotesque crime in American history--

You speaketh with forked tongue and should really look into renting a room with padded walls. You suck at this talking in circles rigamarole because you constantly contradict your self whilst simultaeneously going waaay over the top with your all too often tinfoil hat song and dance routine.

As for the most "grotesque" crime in American history, that would've been the treatment of Native American Indians, and that fact is not even debatable.

One other tidbit... Curtis Lemay was the first General in charge of the Strategic Air Command (SAC), of which i was a member and proudly served. Rack that bastard.