TT/OU -- In Game

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:03 am

So far, so good.

The first step in chaos is the 1st Qtr.

14-0, OU

Maybe Texas Tech just hasn't "woken up" yet.

campinfool · Post by **campinfool** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:13 am

After seeing how a good team like OU is pushing around Tech, it makes it even more of a bitter pill to swallow to know Texas blew it against Tech. So many what ifs but damn why couldn't Texas get pressure on Harrell like that. I think OU is going to win big and jump Texas in the BCS and push Bradford into the Heisman driver's seat. Them Sooners looking mighty good so far.

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:21 am

21-0, OU.

Texas Tech is starting to look like the Taco Tech of old.

Of course, if OU goes on to win this game, and beats Mizzou in the Big XII, championship game, they'll look like TT tonight, against Fla., in the MNC game. Mark my words.

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:27 am

28-0...the rout is on!

DiT · Post by **DiT** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:31 am

OU's D is superb thus far.
everything is clicking right now.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:31 am

not a lot to complain about from the Sooner perspective so far. lotta time left though.

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:44 am

Jsc810 wrote:So now it is Alabama vs Utah in the championship game?

Oklahoma or Florida will probably be the #2. Utah might move into the top 5 at best. Bottom line is that they're in for sure.

DiT · Post by **DiT** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:50 am

I've been wanting to see an OU-UF matchup for a couple of years.
42-7
wow

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:57 am

e wrote:keep looking ahead, oufan.

~mizzoufan

looking ahead? If OU gets in Big12 title game over Tejas, it's a sham. The writers need to Keep Tejas ahead of OU, as they beat them head to head. And putting them ahead of Tejas would be a joke. I don't give a shit what the score is, Tech was beat before they stepped on the field. They pissed themselves before the first snap. Oregon st did the same vs PSU. MU did the same in Austin.

.m2 · Post by **.m2** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:59 am

Mike Stoopid just put OSU one step closer to the Rose Bowl.

Wow, that fucker is Stoopid.

Looks like Cal will get Taco Tech in the Holiday Bowl again.... can't wait!

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:10 am

DiT wrote:I've been wanting to see an OU-UF matchup for a couple of years.
42-7
wow

Same here.

And at this point, OU has done what they needed to do ... outside of playing a truely good team, on the road.

IF ... OU can get past Okie State .... we'll see.

OU looks phenomenal tonight. We'll see about the next two games, outside of Norman.

To be honest, I don't think OU has been "road-tested" enough. KSU and aTm, this year? Please.

The only true "road test" this year, for OU, was a neutral site, and they LOST. 'sayin.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:24 am

RadioFan wrote:
IF ... OU can get past Okie State .... we'll see.

Pokes will be sky high for that one.

Harvdog · Post by **Harvdog** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:28 am

This is the first time Tech has played a quality team outside of Lubbock. It is tough to play in Lubbock at night. Harrell looks lost and if him and Crabtree aren't out of the Hypesman race after this then I am crazy. Tech should fall to 9 in the BCS. They are outclassed. But, Texas did beat OU by 10. If the coaches and writers forget that, then why did it always matter when OU beat Texas head to head?

BCS as of NOW:

1. Alabama
2. Texas
3. OU
4. Florida
5. USC
6. Penn St.
7. Utah
8. Boise St.
9. Tech Tech

.m2 · Post by **.m2** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:32 am

Wow.

I want Taco Tech in the "Holiday Bowl" bad.

TT looks fat and slow. And it looks like Stoops knows how to stop Leach's spread offense.

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:37 am

.m2 wrote:Wow.

I want Taco Tech in the "Holiday Bowl" bad.

TT looks fat and slow. And it looks like Stoops knows how to stop Leach's spread offense.

interesting, a mediocre Tech team put up 45 on cal, this tech team would put up 60.

December 30, 2004 Texas Tech 45 California 31

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:38 am

Harvdog wrote: If the coaches and writers forget that, then why did it always matter when OU beat Texas head to head?

2002 and 2006 are the only years in the last 10 where i think has been the case. 2001 OU wins head to head, but UT plays Colorado in the championship game. i think you are overstating a little bit.

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:41 am

Jsc810 wrote:Utah belongs in the championship game. They've earned it.

This has been argued in the past with Boise State and Utah under Urban Meyer. These teams just aren't consider legitimate unfortunately. In a perfect world, you throw them in a playoff against other top teams and you let them decide on the field. Instead, we have a system where it's really only about the best two teams from the 6 BCS conferences...the rest of D-IA football need not apply.

.m2 · Post by **.m2** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:49 am

Adelpiero wrote:
.m2 wrote:Wow.

I want Taco Tech in the "Holiday Bowl" bad.

TT looks fat and slow. And it looks like Stoops knows how to stop Leach's spread offense.
interesting, a mediocre Tech team put up 45 on cal, this tech team would put up 60.

December 30, 2004 Texas Tech 45 California 31

Not really.

Cal had never faced "the spread" at that point and Tedford said he made a mistake in that game by not continuing to run the ball.

Cal had a 10-0 lead in that game and jj arrington had over 100 yards rushing in the 1st quarter when Tedford went to the pass with nothing but 3rd and 4th string wide receivers... since Cal lost it's starting 4 wide receivers to injury during the regular season. The two starting wide receivers in that game for Cal.... were freshman who had never played a down of college football.

Tedford hired "Dunbar" as OC for one year, just to learn how the spread worked.

Cal has probably the best linebackers in the country and are now running a 3-4 to make use of them on passing downs. To say they are fast... would be an understatement.

Cal is also a bunch of "ball hogs" being 2nd in the NATION in interceptions.

Cal would knock TT into tomorrow...

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:01 am

.m2 wrote:
Adelpiero wrote:
.m2 wrote:Wow.

I want Taco Tech in the "Holiday Bowl" bad.

TT looks fat and slow. And it looks like Stoops knows how to stop Leach's spread offense.
interesting, a mediocre Tech team put up 45 on cal, this tech team would put up 60.

December 30, 2004 Texas Tech 45 California 31

Not really.

Cal had never faced "the spread" at that point and Tedford said he made a mistake in that game by not continuing to run the ball.

Cal had a 10-0 lead in that game and jj arrington had over 100 yards rushing in the 1st quarter when Tedford went to the pass with nothing but 3rd and 4th string wide receivers... since Cal lost it's starting 4 wide receivers to injury during the regular season. The two starting wide receivers in that game for Cal.... were freshman who had never played a down of college football.

Tedford hired "Dunbar" as OC for one year, just to learn how the spread worked.

Cal has probably the best linebackers in the country and are now running a 3-4 to make use of them on passing downs. To say they are fast... would be an understatement.

Cal is also a bunch of "ball hogs" being 2nd in the NATION in interceptions.

Cal would knock TT into tomorrow...

Like cal did to Maryland?

Harvdog · Post by **Harvdog** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:02 am

King Crimson wrote:
Harvdog wrote: If the coaches and writers forget that, then why did it always matter when OU beat Texas head to head?
2002 and 2006 are the only years in the last 10 where i think has been the case. 2001 OU wins head to head, but UT plays Colorado in the championship game. i think you are overstating a little bit.

Overstating what? We won head to head and should be ahead of OU in the polls.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:07 am

Ball Hogs? Is that the units nickname? Or did you mean "Ball Hawks"?

Tedford sounds like he made a brilliant tactical move going to 4 wide when his top 4 WR's were hurt.

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:09 am

King Crimson wrote:
RadioFan wrote:
IF ... OU can get past Okie State .... we'll see.
Pokes will be sky high for that one.

Yep.

I've got (relocated) family here already thinking I'm full of shit.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:20 am

Adelpiero wrote: If OU gets in Big12 title game over Tejas, it's a sham.

No, it's not.

We want OU at Arrowhead.

I want them here spending their money. I want to go to the casino's and hear "Boomer Sooner" reverberating from wall to wall.

Come on up here and cash your ticket, OU honk.

We'll be waiting.

.m2 · Post by **.m2** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:27 am

Adelpiero wrote:
Like cal did to Maryland?

You mean when Cal had traveled over 8,000 miles in just over 8 days ?

Landed on the "east coast" 12 hours before kickoff... ?

... and played at 9:00 am. their time ?

Look, I travel for a living and can tell you traveling west to east is a mother and takes a day or two to get normal.

Let alone getting off a plane at night and playing a game 12 hours later after traveling 8,000 miles in just over a week.

This travel thing.... may not make a lot of sense to you Big 12 guys.

Almost to the second, it hit 12:00 noon California time.... Cal outscored Maryland 21-0 and passed for over 240 yards in the 4th quarter alone.

All this... with the "hangover" from travel.

Cal's gonna tear TT up.

The only difference is "Tedford" would have pulled the starters after a 3 or 4 TD lead like he did against the 'furd today when it was 37-3.

He's not very Bob Stoops like.

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:14 am

.m2 wrote:You mean when Cal had traveled over 8,000 miles in just over 8 days ?

Landed on the "east coast" 12 hours before kickoff... ?

... and played at 9:00 am. their time ?

Look, I travel for a living and can tell you traveling west to east is a mother and takes a day or two to get normal.

Let alone getting off a plane at night and playing a game 12 hours later after traveling 8,000 miles in just over a week.

This travel thing.... may not make a lot of sense to you Big 12 guys.

Almost to the second, it hit 12:00 noon California time....

... And USC beat the ever living fuck out of Virgina ... even EARLIER in the season than Cal had their asses handed to them.

Try crying and waking up somewhere else, dumbfuck.

The only thing funnier than your persistence is your seriousness.

.m2 · Post by **.m2** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:34 am

RadioFan wrote:
.m2 wrote:You mean when Cal had traveled over 8,000 miles in just over 8 days ?

Landed on the "east coast" 12 hours before kickoff... ?

... and played at 9:00 am. their time ?

Look, I travel for a living and can tell you traveling west to east is a mother and takes a day or two to get normal.

Let alone getting off a plane at night and playing a game 12 hours later after traveling 8,000 miles in just over a week.

This travel thing.... may not make a lot of sense to you Big 12 guys.

Almost to the second, it hit 12:00 noon California time....
... And USC beat the ever living fuck out of Virgina ... even EARLIER in the season than Cal had their asses handed to them.

Try crying and waking up somewhere else, dumbfuck.

The only thing funnier than your persistence is your seriousness.

You're not a bright guy... Radio....

... so, I'll have to go slow with you.

$C landed around 2 days before their game started.... Cal landed hours before their game.

... are you still following my tulsa hillbilly ???

Probably not.

I'll get back to this topic when I can find someone with an IQ above 60 or so.

the truth

.m2 · Post by **.m2** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:35 am

RadioFan wrote:
.m2 wrote:You mean when Cal had traveled over 8,000 miles in just over 8 days ?

Landed on the "east coast" 12 hours before kickoff... ?

... and played at 9:00 am. their time ?

Look, I travel for a living and can tell you traveling west to east is a mother and takes a day or two to get normal.

Let alone getting off a plane at night and playing a game 12 hours later after traveling 8,000 miles in just over a week.

This travel thing.... may not make a lot of sense to you Big 12 guys.

Almost to the second, it hit 12:00 noon California time....
... And USC beat the ever living fuck out of Virgina ... even EARLIER in the season than Cal had their asses handed to them.

Try crying and waking up somewhere else, dumbfuck.

The only thing funnier than your persistence is your seriousness.

You're not a bright guy... Radio....

... so, I'll have to go slow with you.

$C landed around 2 days before their game started.... Cal landed hours before their game.

... are you still following..... my tulsa hillbilly ???

Probably not.

I'll get back to this topic when I can find someone with an IQ above 60 or so.

the truth

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:37 am

.m2 wrote:$C landed around 2 days before their game started.... Cal landed hours before their game.

Better fire Tedford.

.m2 · Post by **.m2** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:45 am

RadioFan wrote:
.m2 wrote:$C landed around 2 days before their game started.... Cal landed hours before their game.
Better fire Tedford.

Better learn to read... before you post.

But, that never really slowed you "midwesterners" from breeding... now has it.

You re/tards, would fuck anything that walked by a 7/11 on a cold night.

Thank you, factory workers.... thank you!

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:57 am

.m2 wrote:Better learn to read... before you post.

Try "waking up," before you do as well.

Harvdog · Post by **Harvdog** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:31 pm

Believe the Heupel wrote:
Harvdog wrote:This is the first time Tech has played a quality team outside of Lubbock. It is tough to play in Lubbock at night. Harrell looks lost and if him and Crabtree aren't out of the Hypesman race after this then I am crazy. Tech should fall to 9 in the BCS. They are outclassed. But, Texas did beat OU by 10. If the coaches and writers forget that, then why did it always matter when OU beat Texas head to head?

BCS as of NOW:

1. Alabama
2. Texas
3. OU
4. Florida
5. USC
6. Penn St.
7. Utah
8. Boise St.
9. Tech Tech
So why would you rank Texas ahead of Texas Tech? Tech has the head to head win and the same conference record.

Based on what you just said, Tech should stay 2, we are 3 and OU is 5?

Easy. We played OU and beat them by 10 on a neutral field. We lost to Tech in Lubbock on a last second play. The key here was Tech was at home and they are really good at home. Tech goes into Norman and gets hammered. So the biggest loser here is TT. They played 3 quality opponents all year. 2 were in Lubbock and 1 was on the road. They barely beat Texas, and did to the pokes what you did to them. The voters saw all 3 games. They know that Texas was a dropped intereception and an amazing play away from this being a mute point. They also know that we beat OU straight up.

If Texas beats A&M on Thursday, we will go to the Big XII championship game. If we win that we will play the winner of the SEC for all the marbles. If OU wins out they will go to the Fiesta Bowl against Ohio State or Utah. Tech is going to either the Cotton or the Holiday. I almost hope they play Cal again. This whole style points thing is bullshit. Mack does not run up the score on people. Maybe he should.

As we sit, the Hypesman is between Sam and Colt.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:09 pm

but isn't "barely beat" (Tech>UT) the "style points" argument in reverse. you've got a couple slippery slopes going Harv....that tend to support UT, not any real commitment to principle.

i could live with head to head as the first tie-breaker and call it what it is. but, having changed the first tie-breaker to highest BCS ranking the scum-suckers at the Big XII office have opened the door to all kinds of human manipulation of the "process" in order to guarantee a BCS shot and the coin.

you act like this will be the first time in history that a team lost to another team and ended up with a higher ranking or bowl birth (potentially, in this case)...to the point of making it seem like you would not argue the same case that you do were the OU-UT roles reversed.

Harvdog · Post by **Harvdog** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:41 pm

King Crimson wrote:but isn't "barely beat" (Tech>UT) the "style points" argument in reverse. you've got a couple slippery slopes going Harv....that tend to support UT, not any real commitment to principle.

i could live with head to head as the first tie-breaker and call it what it is. but, having changed the first tie-breaker to highest BCS ranking the scum-suckers at the Big XII office have opened the door to all kinds of human manipulation of the "process" in order to guarantee a BCS shot and the coin.

you act like this will be the first time in history that a team lost to another team and ended up with a higher ranking or bowl birth (potentially, in this case)...to the point of making it seem like you would not argue the same case that you do were the OU-UT roles reversed.

the_ouskull · Post by **the_ouskull** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:06 pm

If Texas gets in and OU doesn't, I'm not going to sit here and cry and complain and shit, but I will say this...

Right now, OU is the better football team. The team that Tejas beat a month ago isn't the same team that's wearing Crimson right now. And, the argument that OU fans have made a number of times over the years... when you win them all, it stays in your hands. If Tejas had taken care of business against Tech the way that OU did, they wouldn't have to sit in a sweat box for the next couple of weeks.

I know that the tears flowing from Austin will create a new Red River, but, at the same time, I don't feel bad or anything... If you take care of your business, then you're in. Since you didn't, it's out of your hands now. Saying that you beat OU a month ago, therefore should be ranked higher than them now, is a very similar argument to, "Well, since ______ beat ______, and ______ beat ______, which beat ______, then Oregon State should be national champs." I want OU to get in, sure, but only if they deserve to. I don't think that anybody, even Tejas fan, can, of sound mind, say that OU doesn't deserve a shot as well. We by 10 lost to a Top 5 team on a neutral field in a game in which our starting middle linebacker was taken out. Tejas lost by 4 in an away game to a team that OU just beat by 40 at home. Unless Owen Field is responsible for a 40 point swing, I'd say that OU is playing better ball right now.

Maybe Bama wins out and plays f'in' Utah for all the marbles. That'd be the best-care scenario, 'cause if Florida, Tejas, and OU all got f*cked in the same postseason, we'd have a playoff by February.

the_ouskull

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:57 pm

Harvdog wrote:
King Crimson wrote:
i could live with head to head as the first tie-breaker and call it what it is.

here's the difference Harv.

Harvdog · Post by **Harvdog** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:03 pm

So when Bob gets on TV after the game and starts lobbying he should just shut it. Scoreboard is Scoreboard. It is too bad that hese coaches and writers forget that.

campinfool · Post by **campinfool** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:53 am

If Texas winds up going to play Missouri again I will probably sport some wood. But if OU goes I will be disappointed but not totally shocked or feel like Texas was screwed over. The name of the game is "what have you done for me lately". With that mentality OU will get the nod for the beatdown last night. Texas has a valid arguement, but I don't fell so sure it will go the Burnt Orange way. Both teams are deserving, but nothing is fair in this current system. Besides both teams hae one more game to play.

Waz · Post by **Waz** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:30 am

LOL harvie's gripping.

Assume the position harvie, you knows it coming dont ya

campinfool · Post by **campinfool** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:32 am

I bought some KY at the local Walmart today. Texas fans know what's coming so I've been preparing myself.

Waz · Post by **Waz** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:40 am

doesnt make it right, doesnt make it wrong, due to this 3 way circle jerk we have going on. but it does make it funny.

but who knows, the texass lobby machine still has time to work.