Mace wrote:Derron wrote:JayDuck wrote:Compensation for being a teacher isn't as bad as for flipping burgers. But, its mediocre, at best. So why should we expect anything but mediocre teachers?
Fuck you Mr. Duck...I don't think 90K plus a year for a tenured teacher, then I gravy trained my ass kissing skills into a " Vice Principle" or " Counselor" position at an 1800 student high school, with over 11 of the fore mentioned positions, is mediocre.
I kind of like retiring at 108% ( non taxable) of my last salary, getting 7 years of post retirement health benefits, and retiring at 55.
But now that I think about it..that is mediocre and I deserve more. I showed up when required, I did not fuck a 16 year old student, and I only got 2 drunk driving tickets while I was working.
Sin,
Career teacher who will suck the system for retirement until I die in another 30 or so years.
Are you seriously saying that a teacher in Oregon makes $90K a year and retires at 55 with 108% of their salary?
Agree on the NCLB Act and that the Fed has no business regulating schools, but I think that ship has already sailed.
And what parent wanting the best for their kid
wouldn't send the child to a private school, as opposed to a public school in DC...assuming they have the means to do it?
The teacher (s) taught for a few years, and then by some how ass kissing and general good luck, became an administrator.
You know those ones who can't coach, can't teach, but can be an administrator ?
So they go from teacher to " Vice Principle" or other title and do end up making 90K per year...not saying a teacher does, but an upper end teacher ( 6 plus years on the job....plus 3% yearly COLA) with a BS is making close to 58 per year in some districts.
Now the Oregon retirement system was fucking awesome if you were a public leach..up until it started falling apart a few years ago. The OL was a health care executive at a large local state hospital..and rode some fucking 22% gains in her retirement account...which was guaranfuckingteed to never make less than 8%, until they changed that law. And she NEVER put a dime of her own money into it. They cut that off about 3 years ago, and the money started going into funds that were most closely tied to market, but the original portion was still in that guanfuckingteed 8% return. And that 8% was good for 12k in interest each year, no matter the market.
Some administrator dude down the road and one of my former teachers both retired when the state took away the 8% guarantee, and based their retirement benefits on the last 5 years of their salary. So both bailed. Administrator dude shows me his benefit check ( non taxable) compared to his last pay check, and wonders WTF, but don't question it.
Former teacher says it was a hard decision, but I had to take a raise when I retired.
Administrator dude is 58, been retired for 3 years now. Former teachers/admin guy has been retired 10 years, is about 66 and having the time of his life.
So if 2 teachers hit the top of the pay scale with BS degrees at about 53K or so...that's 106 per year plus yearly COLA's, with full family health care, fully funded retirement with no contribution for you personally, and you live wisely and in your means..then that's a pretty good gig. Show up every day, don't fuck under age students, and show up for your yearly review, and you got a pretty good paying..low stress life style.
And save me the cunt bleeding crap about how much time they spend, how they have to spend their own money,,bah,blah,blah....its all a choice they make.