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[Van]

The most surprising thing about that article was South Carolina leading the SEC with 7 picks...

That doesn't bode well for them. They were no good anyway, and they just lost seven of their best guys.

One thing to keep in mind: Not all conferences have the same number of teams. Both the ACC and SEC have 20% more teams than the Pac 10, so right off the bat one should always expect a 20% differential.

[Van]

Um...excuse me, Van, but the Pac 10 has only one team. So your point is even more pertinent.

And that one team nearly equals other conferences.



Hell, even using the vaunted SEC, USC had as many picks in this draft as:

MSU
Vandy
Florida
Tennessee
Kentucky
Arkansas
Auburn

...combined. USC equalled more than half the SEC, despite Taylor Mays and a couple other USC underclassmen choosing to wait another year before entering the NFL draft.

Also, keep in mind, USC has 21 players over the past two years, including 7 1st rounders and 12 guys taken on the first day. Two years running, basically half their team got drafted into the NFL, and the majority of them were first day picks.

Yeah, the BCS system works.

[Van]

The most surprising thing about that article was South Carolina leading the SEC with 7 picks...

That doesn't bode well for them. They were no good anyway, and they just lost seven of their best guys.

One thing to keep in mind: Not all conferences have the same number of teams. Both the ACC and SEC have 20% more teams than the Pac 10, so right off the bat one should always expect a 20% differential.

It also doesn't make any sense that SS can't get that much talent to produce, either. Makes you definitely wonder if he's not losing his handle on coaching....

Does it? Not for me, it doesn't. I'd say it pretty much cements the answer. Spurrier is a has been.

The funniest thing of all about all the Spurrier hype is that just like Charlie Weis, Spurrier is at least supposed to provide offensive fireworks. Somehow, though, every year, it's the S. Carolina offense that sucks. It's their impotent, vanilla offense that holds that team back. The D does its part. If the O was at least as good as the D then S. Carolina would at least contend...

[Vito Corleone]

Most of the top Big 12 guys were under-classmen, and elicted to stay I know Oklahoma had 3 guys that probably would have been 1st round picks if they came out. OSU has Dez Bryant who will probably be the top WR next year. Next year Texas could have 2 to 4 1st round picks. I'm still scratching my head about the Cowboys drafting the Aggie QB, guy wasn't even good enough to start his senior year and now he is a 4th round NFL pick

[Mr T]

If we are jerking off to our team's conference in this thread....

ACC had 4 of the Top 10 draft picks.

ACC has the #1 and #3 schools with most active NFL players.

ACC also beat the SEC head to head last year.

But ESPN says the ACC sucks and the SEC is the best, so all that is null and void to the brain dead masses of the south

SEC! SEC! SEC! *Repeat*

[Van]

the SEC is the best, so all that is null and void to the brain dead masses of the south

You rang?

Sam, that's not a phone you hear ringing. It's just the ringing in your ears you're hearing from all the Bama bashing going on in your "Central Bama Tard Fest" PET.

[Van]

Speaking of which...is that scrawny dude in black a security guard...or is that just his way of dressing "cool"?

Yo, Sam. Eat my dick.

-FUBU

[SoCalTrjn]

conference arguements are the crutch of people who support shit teams.


USC had 11 draftees EVERYONE else was behind them

[SoCalTrjn]

bring it up to who? this is only the second draft your ass has been around here for.

[indyfrisco]

I'm still scratching my head about the Cowboys drafting the Aggie QB, guy wasn't even good enough to start his senior year and now he is a 4th round NFL pick

I agree. Just more proof Jerrah needs to hand the keys over to a real GM, sit back and let the plastic on his face melt in the Texas heat.

In McGee's defense, he was having a hard time coming back from the shoulder injury. However, even in his "prime" at A&M, he never could hit a moving target. He had great arm strength and great accuracy when a receiver would run to a spot and stop, but hitting someone in stride was not his strong suit. In the NFL, that is a must. 6'3" and 205, good arm, good speed, good running ability with some accuracy issues. Maybe they figure they can mold him into something else. I would not have spent a 4th on him though. I would have guessed he would have gone undrafted and pick him up in FA if you want to give him a shot.

[SoCalTrjn]

conference arguements are the crutch of people who support shit teams.

The Tide didn't lose to Oregon State. Took a real "shit team" to do that.


I guess winning national championships doesn't indicate much to you. When your Trojans (who I do respect as a quality program) win as many NCs as Alabama has, get back to me.

Oh please, how much voter cum did Bear have to gargle to earn a split with USC in 78 after the Trojans went to Birmingham and beat the Tide?
Bama has 11, USC has 10 but 78 was settled on the field and Bama doesnt deserve a split with a team that came to their house and beat them. 10 to 10

[Van]

Doesn't matter. USC beat #1 Bama, in their own house. Head to head trumps. '78 was a total fraud title for Bama.

[MuchoBulls]

Did the SEC have the best showing in the draft?

http://blogs.ajc.com/barnhart-college-f ... e-acc-sec/

Here is a different category

http://blog.syracuse.com/orangefootball ... l#comments

2009 NFL Draft picks per school:
1. Big East - 3.75
2. Pac-10 - 3.2
3. SEC - 3.08
4. ACC - 2.75
5. Big Ten - 2.54
6. Big XII - 2.33

[Van]

Mucho, that's what I was saying earlier, about the Pac 10 having 20% fewer teams than the ACC and SEC...and the Big East has 25% fewer teams than the Pac 10.

[Laxplayer]

What about that title in the 1930's or some time ago that $UC bitched about winning and they gave themselves credit for? If we recognize the BCs as the lone title how many BCS title's does $UC have?

[Van]

I've always been perfectly comfortable talking about it.

I don't recognize any MNCs that were awarded before teams even played their bowl games, which was the practice in CF up until the mid 60's. '65 was the first year they waited. So, as far as I'm concerned, the only titles that count are from '65 on forward. That means a lot of teams lose a lot of their titles, including USC.

There's no way anybody's only going to recognize BCS titles as the only titles. Not a chance. The AP and UPI titles from the late 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s count as MNCs.

[MuchoBulls]

Mucho, that's what I was saying earlier, about the Pac 10 having 20% fewer teams than the ACC and SEC...and the Big East has 25% fewer teams than the Pac 10.

I saw your post on that and was looking for a place that would have the numbers based how many teams play within one conference. I'd have to double check on this, but I believe every Big East program had a player drafted this year.

[Moby Dick]

looks like 2010 will be the Big XII's turn (barring injury).


1. St. Louis Rams -- Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
College football's most accurate passer could emerge as the top overall pick in 2010. The Rams should be in position to draft their future franchise quarterback after passing on Mark Sanchez in this year's draft.

2. Cleveland Browns -- Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
Suh is an underrated talent with quickness, power and versatility.

3. Detroit Lions -- Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
The Lions should be in the market for a starting left tackle to protect the blind side of 2009 No. 1 overall pick Matthew Stafford.

4. Oakland Raiders -- Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
Oakland drafted a wide receiver (Darrius Heyward-Bey) at No. 7 overall this year rather than solidifying its offensive line with OT Eugene Monroe. The Raiders shouldn't make the same mistake in 2010.

5. Kansas City Chiefs -- Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
The Chiefs will have some bigger needs along the offensive and defensive lines, but Gresham projects as the premier tight end in the 2010 class. He could become the replacement for future Hall of Fame TE Tony Gonzalez, who was traded to the Falcons, providing QB Matt Cassell a legitimate pass-catching threat over the middle.

6. Seattle Seahawks (from Denver) -- Colt McCoy, QB, Texas
A year from now the Seahawks could be in the market for Matt Hasselbeck's future replacement and don't be surprised if McCoy emerges as a top-10 pick by then.

7. Jacksonville Jaguars -- Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
The Jaguars need to replenish their interior defensive line and McCoy is college football's most disruptive tackle when he's healthy.

8. San Francisco 49ers -- Taylor Mays, S, USC
Offensive tackle is a big need area but Mays possesses freakish physical tools and could anchor the 49ers' secondary for many years. It should also be pointed out that Mays will have competition for the honor of being first safety off the 2010 draft board if Tennessee's Eric Berry leaves school early.

9. Green Bay Packers -- Adam Ulatoski, OT, Texas
Ulatoski has good feet for his size and could develop into a top offensive tackle prospect as a senior with improved technique and consistency.

10. San Francisco 49ers (from CAR) -- Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas
With the second of their two first-round selections, the 49ers could look to upgrade their offensive line or pass rush. Kindle is a great fit in this scenario as an undersized end with excellent speed off the edge and fluid hips that allow him to occasionally drop into coverage.

11. Washington Redskins -- Ciron Black, OT, LSU
Black is a bit overrated at this point, but he has the physical tools to emerge as a high first-round pick a year from now.

12. Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Geno Atkins, DT, Georgia
New defensive coordinator Jim Bates is looking to get bigger and stronger up front. Atkins fits the mold as a squatty, quick and strong defender. However, he needs to rebound from a somewhat disappointing 2008 season in order to emerge as a premier defensive tackle prospect in next year's class.

13. Denver Broncos (from CHI) -- Jerry Hughes, OLB, TCU
Hughes is flying under the radar, but his initial burst and pass-rushing ability -- 15 sacks in 2008 -- could land him a spot in the middle of next year's first round.

14. Buffalo Bills -- Sam Young, OT, Notre Dame
Offensive tackle is the only need area the Bills failed to address in the most recent draft. As a result, expect the team to be in the market for a future starter such as Young a year from now.

15. Cincinnati Bengals -- C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
Spiller's speed and versatility could land him a spot in the mid-to-late portion of Round 1.

16. Miami Dolphins -- George Selvie, DE, South Florida
Selvie is a notch below elite in terms of physical tools, but his toughness and nonstop motor will be enticing to a team like the Dolphins.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/ ... %3d4110478

[Van]

Moby, if the Big XII gets nine out of the first ten picks in next years draft I'll become a rap music fan.

[Moby Dick]

Moby, if the Big XII gets nine out of the first ten picks in next years draft I'll become a rap music fan.

blasphemy!!!

[Danimal]

The most surprising thing about that article was South Carolina leading the SEC with 7 picks...

That doesn't bode well for them. They were no good anyway, and they just lost seven of their best guys.

One thing to keep in mind: Not all conferences have the same number of teams. Both the ACC and SEC have 20% more teams than the Pac 10, so right off the bat one should always expect a 20% differential.

It also doesn't make any sense that SS can't get that much talent to produce, either. Makes you definitely wonder if he's not losing his handle on coaching....

I don't see why recruits are buying his lines. SC has done nothing but spin their wheels during his tenure. He made his name and success on being an offensive guru that could develop a heady kid into an all-conference qb. But defenses have long since caught up with him and his rep is no longer earned. His O sucked this year, what games they won they won with defense. Geez kids are dumb, but I guess I wasn't bitching about dumb kids when they were buying into Callahan's "I'll get you into the NFL" snake-oil.

[Vito Corleone]

The most surprising thing about that article was South Carolina leading the SEC with 7 picks...

That doesn't bode well for them. They were no good anyway, and they just lost seven of their best guys.

One thing to keep in mind: Not all conferences have the same number of teams. Both the ACC and SEC have 20% more teams than the Pac 10, so right off the bat one should always expect a 20% differential.

It also doesn't make any sense that SS can't get that much talent to produce, either. Makes you definitely wonder if he's not losing his handle on coaching....

I don't see why recruits are buying his lines. SC has done nothing but spin their wheels during his tenure. He made his name and success on being an offensive guru that could develop a heady kid into an all-conference qb. But defenses have long since caught up with him and his rep is no longer earned. His O sucked this year, what games they won they won with defense. Geez kids are dumb, but I guess I wasn't bitching about dumb kids when they were buying into Callahan's "I'll get you into the NFL" snake-oil.

Their not just buying Carrol's line USC has a hell of a lot to offer recruits
1. Top tier education with great connections when your done
2. SoCal babes
3. Beach
4. perfect weather
5. Hollywood scene
6. treated like a star in city of stars
7. party scene

Honestly the only two schools I can think of that can match USC are Texas and Miami and neither come close the the glitz and glamor thing that USC offers.

[Terry in Crapchester]

6. treated like a star in city of stars

Only applies as long as the program is winning. I don't think anyone in SoCal cared much about USC football players in the Ted Tollner/Larry Smith/John Robinson II/Paul Hackett era.

But Danimal was talking about South Carolina. Tell me you knew.

[Van]

don't see why recruits are buying his lines. SC has done nothing but spin their wheels during his tenure. He made his name and success on being an offensive guru that could develop a heady kid into an all-conference qb. But defenses have long since caught up with him and his rep is no longer earned. His O sucked this year, what games they won they won with defense. Geez kids are dumb, but I guess I wasn't bitching about dumb kids when they were buying into Callahan's "I'll get you into the NFL" snake-oil.

Ummm, guys, try to follow along. He's talking about South Carolina, not Southern Ca. You know, South Carolina, where Steve Spurrier coaches.

[Van]

6. treated like a star in city of stars

Only applies as long as the program is winning

Which, according to their all time record and their bowl record, they usually are.

Where else except maybe Miami are you going to get to fuck porn stars?

[Left Seater]

Leftseater, what was the deal with James Casey lasting 'til the 5th round? Everything Ii'd read and heard about him was positive.

Sorry I missed this. I guess it is the same thing as Larry Izzo back in the day. Guys from RICE while they may grade out well are just not going to go that high. As long as he doesn't go into camp with a chip on his shoulder he will be fine. Izzo has done very well with the Pats.

[Terry in Crapchester]

14. Buffalo Bills -- Sam Young, OT, Notre Dame

I would be very, very surprised if Young goes that early, barring a massive turnaround next season. If he does, the team picking him will be doing so based on potential rather than on production.