BCS Top 25 11/9

Go Coogs' · Post by **Go Coogs'** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:04 pm

Can it happen?

1. Florida .9842
2. Alabama .9516
3. Texas .9234
4. TCU .8620
5. Cincinatti .8580

If Texas loses to aTm, then could Florida and Bama play twice?

Van · Post by **Van** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:25 pm

Go Coogs' wrote:Can it happen?

1. Florida .9842
2. Alabama .9516
3. Texas .9234
4. TCU .8620
5. Cincinatti .8580

If Texas loses to aTm, then could Florida and Bama play twice?

Yes. I've been saying that all season long. If the SEC CCG is a good, close game between undefeateds, absolutely there could be a rematch, in the absence of any undefeateds from any BCS conferences. Cincy is only marginally considered to be in a BCS conference this season, so if it came down to undefeated TCU, Boise or Cincy, or a one loss SEC CCG loser, especially if that loser was Florida?

Yeah, we could see a rematch, if Texas loses somewhere. Tha' fuck is Texas going to lose somewhere though? There's nobody else in that whole conference.

Btw, USC has zero business being ranked above Oregon. That's just plain stupid.

Van · Post by **Van** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:36 pm

Jsc810 wrote:LSU got beat, but still went up in the rankings.

It's a meatgrinder. :)

Van · Post by **Van** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:03 pm

Should and would ain't the same things. A one loss Florida who still looked good in losing the SEC CCG may still be able to fall back on their enormous BCS points advantage to stay ahead of an undefeated Cincy.

Urban Meyer, TimTebow(trademark) and Florida, or a Johnny-come-lately program from a woebegone conference nobody cares about besides their own fans? Who do you think the SEC lovin' media will end up putting in the title game?

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see a rematch, under that scenario...especially if Pitt loses to ND, fucking up Cincy's only chance at a somewhat splashy late season win.

Q, West Coast Style · Post by **Q, West Coast Style** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:19 pm

Papa Willie wrote:My Top 10:

5. USC

Which impressed you more: The blowout loss to an Oregon team that as it turns out isn't the best team in the land, or the sqeaker over an Arizona State team that's probably the 7 or 8th best team in the Pac-10?

Q, West Coast Style · Post by **Q, West Coast Style** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:36 pm

The Argument for USC being the 5th best team in the Pac-10 is stronger than the argument that they're the 5th best team on the country. USC is currently 4th in the Pac-10 Standings.

1. Oregon 5-1
2. Arizona 4-1
3. Stanford 5-2
4. (Tie) Oregon State and USC 4-2 (Or St Lost a close shootout AT USC, but would they beat USC in Corvallis, and by more than 6 points? Maybe.

BTW, Conference and National Doormat Wazzu's closest conference losses: USC and Arizona State.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:39 pm

Papa Willie wrote:
Q, West Coast Style wrote:
Papa Willie wrote:My Top 10:

5. USC
Which impressed you more: The blowout loss to an Oregon team that as it turns out isn't the best team in the land, or the sqeaker over an Arizona State team that's probably the 7 or 8th best team in the Pac-10?

You've got a point, but my top 10 is based really on what I think that team would do if they played somebody else tomorrow. My secret little power ranking. I would maybe swap USC and TCU. Honestly - if they played tomorrow, though, I think USC would beat Oregon, but that's just my thought. What Oregon did this past weekend was piss poor. Giving up 51 is shit. Not only that, but I base a lot of that on how Stanford was up 20-0 on WAKE FOREST - and fucked it away and lost.

Let's see what happens with Stanford and USC. I think Stanford will be hungover (just like you guys OBVIOUSLY were), and USC kicks their asses.

If Stanford beats USC (#5), Kal (#1) and Notre Dame (#1a) in their final three games after beating Oregon (#0), shouldn't they qualify for a BCS bowl game in spite of losing to Wake, OSU and 'zona?

Go Coogs' · Post by **Go Coogs'** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:46 pm

Jsc810 wrote:If there are only two undefeated teams, an undefeated SEC champ and Cincy, then Cincy should be in the title game, since it is in a BCS conference. Sorry, TCU and Boise, you're not a part of this conversation.

If Cincy loses, which is a high probability, and TCU absolutely handles Utah then TCU might sneak in.

CintiBearcat92 · Post by **CintiBearcat92** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:11 pm

Go Coogs' wrote:
Jsc810 wrote:If there are only two undefeated teams, an undefeated SEC champ and Cincy, then Cincy should be in the title game, since it is in a BCS conference. Sorry, TCU and Boise, you're not a part of this conversation.

If Cincy loses, which is a high probability, and TCU absolutely handles Utah then TCU might sneak in.

And why exactly is Cincinnati losing a HIGH probability? To WVa? Possible but not probable. To Illinois? Highly doubtful. To Pitt? Again possible but certainly not highly probable. What wins does Pitt have that are better than wins Cincinnati has? The only thing they clearly have going in their favor is playing at home. Road games don't bother Cincinnati though. We've already won 5 of them (including 2 road wins over BCS top 25 teams) which is more than alot of teams will even PLAY on the road this year.

Go Coogs' · Post by **Go Coogs'** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:17 pm

Okay, let me rephrase that. Among the undefeateds left, Cincy's chances of losing a game is at a higher probability than any other top 6 school. Would you agree to that?

CintiBearcat92 · Post by **CintiBearcat92** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:18 pm

Besides the loser of the Alabama/Florida game, I can agree with that.

Van · Post by **Van** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:39 pm

Didn't Wake Forest nearly beat Georgia Tech this past week, at Georgia Tech?

I don't know that Stanford blowing a big lead at Wake in week two of the season is really all that damning of a loss, especially with a redshirt freshman QB playing in only his second career start.

Stanford's a decent team this year, especially at home.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:55 pm

Yeah, I was kidding about 'furd getting a BCS bid. Three losses definitely puts that out of the picture. They do deserve more respect than #25 on one poll and nowhere on the others, IMO. If they could run the table and end up 9-3 they should at least be top 15 or 20 material. Prolly lose all three though due to mid-terms or something.

They blew leads against Wake and 'zona and almost blew a 20 point 4th quarter lead against Oregon. The defense was dead on their feet at the end, and the offense couldn't do shit either. Maybe Jim needs to get them running a few more laps? Understandable, though, that Gerhart was a little tired after 38 carries.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:04 am

Andrew Luck is just about the real dealio, eh?

And that Nebraska-looking RB mofugga busting fools off is nothing new.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:49 am

Jsc810 wrote:I graduated from TCU, but even if TCU is the only undefeated team left, I still don't think the Frogs should play for the championship.

You're a real piece of dumbfuck shit, you do realize that?

Rack the surgeon who eventually leaves his scalpel sewn up inside your lower intestine.

Van · Post by **Van** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:06 am

Wow. Wholly unprovoked vitriol towards the nicest person on this board, from Wags!

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:49 am

Jsc's lib mushmouth is provocation enough, like nails on a chalkboard.

Add in not supporting your undefeated alma mater (who's bandwagon I'm firmly steering) and it's on like Donkey Kong.

TCU is the best story in CFB this year.

How could this cunt not be jocking the Frogs?

Easy answer... he's too busy swallowing SEC choad, pimping gay rights and abortion on demand paid for by taxpayers.

Fuck this mealy mouthed lawyer cunt. May he die of prostate cancer before he infects too many others with his diseased, warped worldview.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:27 am

War Wagon wrote:Jsc's lib mushmouth is provocation enough, like nails on a chalkboard.

Add in not supporting your undefeated alma mater (who's bandwagon I'm firmly steering) and it's on like Donkey Kong.

TCU is the best story in CFB this year.

How could this cunt not be jocking the Frogs?

Easy answer... he's too busy swallowing SEC choad, pimping gay rights and abortion on demand paid for by taxpayers.

Fuck this mealy mouthed lawyer cunt. May he die of prostate cancer before he infects too many others with his diseased, warped worldview.

So you want Jsc to die a horrible death because he doesn't think TCU should play for the MNC? And he's the one with issues, here?

Van · Post by **Van** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:09 am

In the end, Jsc is one of the most decent, classy people on this board. He's right there with Terry.

That goes a lot further than their personal politics.

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan · Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:13 am

Papa Willie wrote:
17. Arizona 6-2 Probably ought to get more love.

You sure about that?

Sep 5 C. Michigan Won 19-6
Sep 12 Northern Arizona Won 34-17
Sep 19 @Iowa Lost 17-27
Sep 26 @Oregon St. Won 37-32
Oct 10 @Washington Lost 33-36
Oct 17 Stanford Won 43-38
Oct 24 UCLA Won 27-13
Nov 7 Washington St. Won 48-7
Nov 14 @California
Nov 21 Oregon
Nov 28 @Arizona St.
Dec 5 @Southern Cal.

The one good team they've played beat them by 10. They've never been to the Rose Bowl. Ever. If UA manages to eke out even two wins in their final four games, I'd be very surprised...

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:57 am

Jsc810 wrote: But they're not in a BCS conference, and I don't think they would be undefeated if they played in one. In any event, I think there would be more deserving one loss teams to play in the championship game.

Bullshit.

If TCU is the only undefeated team left, they deserve to play in the MNC. Same with Cincy and BSU.

Take that SEC phallus out of your buttfucked mouth.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:04 am

Oh, and Jsc...

Why the hell did YOU go to a Christian university?

TCU called. They want that degree back.

JMak · Post by **JMak** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:50 pm

War Wagon wrote:Jsc's lib mushmouth is provocation enough, like nails on a chalkboard.

Add in not supporting your undefeated alma mater (who's bandwagon I'm firmly steering) and it's on like Donkey Kong.

TCU is the best story in CFB this year.

How could this cunt not be jocking the Frogs?

Easy answer... he's too busy swallowing SEC choad, pimping gay rights and abortion on demand paid for by taxpayers.

Fuck this mealy mouthed lawyer cunt. May he die of prostate cancer before he infects too many others with his diseased, warped worldview.

RACK this Smack! :bode:

Funny how legit smacking gets tossed aside as a reax to sucking a sour dick around here...well, more like sad.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:21 pm

Dinsdale wrote:Andrew Luck is just about the real dealio, eh?

The way some of his passes were dropping into impossibly perfect spots I was thinking he must have visited Rosedale last week.

JayDuck · Post by **JayDuck** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:29 pm

Papa Willie wrote:
You've got a point, but my top 10 is based really on what I think that team would do if they played somebody else tomorrow. My secret little power ranking. I would maybe swap USC and TCU. Honestly - if they played tomorrow, though, I think USC would beat Oregon, but that's just my thought. What Oregon did this past weekend was piss poor. Giving up 51 is shit. Not only that, but I base a lot of that on how Stanford was up 20-0 on WAKE FOREST - and fucked it away and lost.

They played 10 days ago and it wasn't even close. And USC looked even worse on Saturday

Giving up 51 is shit, but apparently giving up 47 is top-5 material. Not to mention that 47 could have been 60, if Oregon hadn't taken the foot off the gas in the 4th quarter.

The "argument" made above is why college football is stupid.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:31 pm

Mikey wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:Andrew Luck is just about the real dealio, eh?

The way some of his passes were dropping into impossibly perfect spots I was thinking he must have visited the crossroad last week.

Some of those passes were against absofuckinglutely PERFECT coverage.

Hell, a couple of those longer plays, the receiver wasn't even looking -- the ball just broke some very longshot odds, and magically appeared in the WR's hands.

He didn't throw it that much, but when he did... damn.

I guess there's a reason why the PAC's #1 rated passer is a frosh. I'd say the Singulars are set at QB for a couple of years (dude is so good, you probably won't get a 4th out of him).

I think we also learned that Oregon's 3-4 can be beaten by a bunch of monsters lining up in the I with an extra TE... that took Oregon away from everything they'd been so succfessful with on D this year.

Props to Harbaugh. If he could get more bodies and more depth, that team will be competing for the conference soon. As it was, it looked like the Singulars didn't have much left in the tank -- but they apparently had 60 minutes' worth.

Van · Post by **Van** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:29 pm

The Pac 10 sure is lining up a nice roster of QBs for next season, especially if Locker comes back.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:06 pm

Papa Willie wrote:let's see how USC does against Stanford.

Riley has really laid out the blueprint to challenge SC -- pound it between the tackles and don't let their LB's cheat out to the slot.

And it's been a loooong time since I've seen a Run-n-GunPAC team abuse the gut like Furd did last saturday.

Freaking Power I's... in the PAC?

But rumor has it, USC has a pretty intelligent coaching staff, and if some armchair-wannabe sees their weakness 1000 miles away, I'm guessing Petey is going to make an adjustment.

Should be a good game, regardless, assuming Luck's luck holds out.

Van · Post by **Van** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:10 pm

Freaking Power I's... in the PAC?

Why, certainly.

Sin,
Student Body Left, and a collection of Heismans in Heritage Hall

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:05 am

Jsc810 wrote:Cincy yes, because they are in a BCS conference. But not Boise or TCU.

That's just stupid.

Has TCU not beaten good teams from BCS conferences? Hasn't their competition beaten good teams from BCS conferences?

That would be a "yes".

Good football is good football, no matter the conference.

Pull your head from your self-exploratory colonoscopy and recognize, bitch.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:46 am

I can't see how anyone can discount TCU and their season while at the same time saying that Cinci is a legit BCS caliber team simply because they come from a conference that is still considered BCS. The fact is The Big East should have lost that BCS automatic bid when they lost Miami, BC, and V-tech. They were left with shitty remains. That's like saying the Big 12 should still be a BCS conference if Texas Nebraska, and OU leave and are replaced with UTEP Wyoming and Colorado State.

The MWC has shown me more over the last 5 years than the Big East has since 2003.

BTW I would stop looking at Texas as the one to lose. It is much more likely to see the SEC champ come out with a loss. Alabama still has to play a tough Allbarn team and Florida still has to play FSU. Both are rivalry games where anything can happen. I could see one of them losing a game and then coming back and winning the conference. If that happens, then what?

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:28 pm

Vito Corleone wrote:I can't see how anyone can discount TCU and their season while at the same time saying that Cinci is a legit BCS caliber team simply because they come from a conference that is still considered BCS.

while last year is last year, but FWIW having seen both Cincy and TCU play OU OOC last year.....I came away from the TCU game thinking that the Frogs were the most athletic team OU played last year (reg season) not named Texas or Ok State. Particularly on D.

let's not forget the MWC had a pretty good year last year....culminated with Utah jack-hammering Bama. If the MWC was east of the Mississippi, it would be God on ESPN.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:09 pm

then that little girl better be hoping that you don't meet Texas or TCU because both are better than Alabama. No you can't tell when comparing teams we faced. But I guarantee you of the undefeated teams no one has a better offense right now than Texas does and Texas is ranked in the top 10 in just about every single defensive category.

Our offense may not be as good as the 2005 offense was with Vince, but our defense is better.

CintiBearcat92 · Post by **CintiBearcat92** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:44 pm

I'll take Cincinnati's offense over Texas any day of the week. Even in bad games our O is going for over 400 yards and scoring lots of points. Cincinnati lost their Heisman candidate QB and didn't miss a beat......would Texas be able to say that if you lost McCoy? Btw, I have LOTS of respect for Texas and lots of family ties down there and I consider myself somewhat of a Texas fan but I have to disagree with you on the offense thing.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:47 am

Sudden Sam wrote:I have nothing but respect for Texas, but if it comes down to Texas vs. Alabama for the BCS title, OH MAN! I can't wait to see McCoy against our defense. Hard to throw when no one gets open and you're sittin' on yer ass.

You do realize your offense would never cross the 50 and Texas would still generate enough offense to score some points on your D. They are good but they aren't as good at the Oklahoma D.

No one can run on Texas especially a one dimensional team that throws the ball like its 1924.

BTW i do have lots of respect for Julio Jones but the Texas D is playing some pretty salty ball right now.

Texas would win 22 to 10 with your defense providing almost all the offense.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:25 am

Vito Corleone wrote: No one can run on Texas

Mizzou ran on Texas.

Not much else, but they damn sure did have some success rushing the football.

Of course, the game was pretty much decided by then, but just sayin'.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:43 am

No, Missouri ran on the 2nd and 3rd team defense not the Texas first team defense. big difference when you are facing our pups instead of our big dogs.

No worry, Baylor fans seem to think they shut down the Texas Offense in the 2nd half of their game. Which if you look at the numbers, they did. Baylor also scored the last two touchdowns of the game against the Texas D. But really, does it really count against the Texas scout team? I saw guys in there I have never heard of.

This Texas defense is being compared to the 1983 and 91 defenses, and this is some sick praise because those defenses were the bench mark for Texas football.

Alabama may have the worse offense of all the undefeated teams. It's nice you can run the ball, but your team throws like Mangino diets, you try but really really suck at it.

I'm still trying to figure out how Alabama thinks they are going to just shut down the Texas offense, Oklahoma has a better defense and we still put up 16 pts. Nor will you get to Colt enough to disrupt him. Our oline has been playing pretty well as of late.

CintiBearcat92 · Post by **CintiBearcat92** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:42 pm

Papa Willie wrote:
CintiBearcat92 wrote:I'll take Cincinnati's offense over Texas any day of the week.

Can we just start calling you "m2 East"?

Sure, as long as we can start calling you a retarded hillbilly. Instead of just being a mindless SEC homer dumbshit, why not try actually having a take and telling me why I'm wrong? Because you can't. Texas is better than Cincinnati in SOME offense catagories but the Bearcats offense is ranked higher in many more than Texas. Take a look at the stats for yourself and then come back to me. I'm sure you'll just go on posting mindless bullshit though so carry on.

CintiBearcat92 · Post by **CintiBearcat92** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:43 pm

Papa Willie wrote:
CintiBearcat92 wrote:I'll take Cincinnati's offense over Texas any day of the week.

Can we just start calling you "m2 East"?

Sure, as long as we can start calling you a retarded hillbilly. Instead of just being a mindless SEC homer dumbshit, why not try actually having a take and telling me why I'm wrong? Because you can't. Texas is better than Cincinnati in SOME offense catagories but the Bearcats offense is ranked higher in many more than Texas. Take a look at the stats for yourself and then come back to me. I'm sure you'll just go on posting mindless bullshit though so carry on.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:10 pm

Vito Corleone wrote:then that little girl better be hoping that you don't meet Texas or TCU because both are better than Alabama. No you can't tell when comparing teams we faced. But I guarantee you of the undefeated teams no one has a better offense right now than Texas does and Texas is ranked in the top 10 in just about every single defensive category.

Our offense may not be as good as the 2005 offense was with Vince, but our defense is better.

my opinion is that Texas' front 7 are mos def for real. I find the O a little too dink/dunk with all the underneath stuff. if this team had a Limas Sweed to stretch the field, they'd be my pick to win it all. as it stands, i dunno. they aren't going to lose to anyone in the Big XII since the conference sucks this year.