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hell yeah. this is my point above. when OU hired Stoops he'd never head coached a D-1 game in his life. Pete Carroll was USC's 18th choice.Terry in Crapchester wrote:Once, and once more on the way.Sudden Sam wrote:How many times has Kelly?Terry in Crapchester wrote: How many times has Riley been to the BCS?
He's been the coach at a BCS conference school for three years and has two league championships. He's a good coach, but he's not without risk.Sudden Sam wrote: Whoop-de-doo!
I know you were. Besides, not sure if I want someone associated with The Bear. He didn't have the best of luck when facing Notre Dame! :DSudden Sam wrote:I don't doubt at all that Kelly is a good coach. Read a lot of good stuff on him.
Just can't believe anyone would pass on one of Bear's boys.
Before I get piled on...
I'M JUST KIDDING.
i wish OU would have passed onSudden Sam wrote:I don't doubt at all that Kelly is a good coach. Read a lot of good stuff on him.
Just can't believe anyone would pass on one of Bear's boys.
Before I get piled on...
I'M JUST KIDDING.
Riley could've had the Bama job, but he passed on it for Oregon State. Sort of, anyway.Sudden Sam wrote:I don't doubt at all that Kelly is a good coach. Read a lot of good stuff on him.
Just can't believe anyone would pass on one of Bear's boys.
Before I get piled on...
I'M JUST KIDDING.
War Wagon wrote:The first time I click on one of your youtube links will be the first time.
i guess i'm mildly happy for his sake, Schnelly is cleaned up they say....but it's been a few years since i posted my dad's story about seeing Howard buying a sixer of Bud tall-boys at the 7-11 on Imhoff and Chautauqua at 7:30 AM. and he could barely shut the door of his caddy as he veered onto the road. On a Friday before a road game. it was at that point my pops stopped giving "extra" beyond tix to the football program altogether....and started going backdoor with his complaints (he's done legal work for OU since the mid 80's, mostly for Tubbs). he's back in now, but then he switched all his donor funds to hoops (Tip-in Club since the late 70's) and the golf team.Believe the Heupel wrote: Kinda my first thought.
That son of a bitch set OU back three-four years. Wish the NPD would have had the nuts to charge him with battery.
not when he was the coach. because that 7-11 has only been there since about 1995. i grew up about 6 blocks from there. and, i've bought tallboys there mahself on my way to some good nights hooking up with some small town OU sorority honey (or from Moore) as a townie or NHS de facto reunion night at the Deli or Liberty D's.Believe the Heupel wrote:
I will say for the record that I saw Barry walk into that very same 7-11, grab a tallboy out of the fridge, give a nod to the cashier, leave without paying, then hop into the drivers' seat of his BMW.
you could be right. that whole area was empty when i was a kid. wheat land, actually. i just remember seeing it as yet another incursion on the old Norman i grew up in vs. the new BS.Believe the Heupel wrote:No, it wasn't when he was coach. I lived in Norman from 1992-1996, so that precludes Barry being the coach. However, that 7-11 was there the entire time I was in school.
Unless I'm thinking of the wrong one. This is the one on Chataqua by the LNC, right?
It was definitely there in 1992. I remember my father and grandfather stopping at it after the Coppin State game in December of '91. The only reason I remember that so vividly was because it was the last basketball game I ever saw with my grandfather at LNC before he passed away. It was about the only thing there though as I recall...King Crimson wrote:you could be right. that whole area was empty when i was a kid. wheat land, actually. i just remember seeing it as yet another incursion on the old Norman i grew up in vs. the new BS.Believe the Heupel wrote:No, it wasn't when he was coach. I lived in Norman from 1992-1996, so that precludes Barry being the coach. However, that 7-11 was there the entire time I was in school.
Unless I'm thinking of the wrong one. This is the one on Chataqua by the LNC, right?
i know it was there in 96. because i bought gas there the day Blake was named HC.
my bad. i remember me and my mom talking about it and we lived (then) and Imhoff and Berry.
BSmack wrote:I can certainly infer from that blurb alone that you are self righteous, bible believing, likely a Baptist or Presbyterian...
Miryam wrote:but other than that, it's cool, man. you're a christer.
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Okay, Sunny, yer cards are on table as a flat-out Christer.
nothing i can respect more than that with memories of grandparents. i know how that goes.SunCoastSooner wrote: It was definitely there in 1992. I remember my father and grandfather stopping at it after the Coppin State game in December of '91. The only reason I remember that so vividly was because it was the last basketball game I ever saw with my grandfather at LNC before he passed away. It was about the only thing there though as I recall...
Of the "Tier 1" coaches, I thought Saban probably was the most gettable, if only because of his documented history of wanderlust (I suppose you could say that about Meyer, but his two previous stops were obviously stepping stones, he's never really indicated a desire to leave Florida). But Saban never was even on the radar screen, apparently.Killian wrote:most ND fans wanted either a "Teir 1" hire (Meyer/Stoops/Saban), Gruden, or someone with a strong defense.
War Wagon wrote:The first time I click on one of your youtube links will be the first time.
exactly. from start to finish, i've never heard anyone from OU, the SID, local media, people around town i've known my whole life, alums, HS coaches, whoever....say anything good about him.Sudden Sam wrote:Sounds like a real POS.Believe the Heupel wrote:KC left out the story that I referenced above-why NPD should have arrested him for battery.
According to some people I knew back then and trusted (I haven't talked to them in years) Howard hauled off and popped his wife one in the middle of Legends (an upscale restaurant right off of campus.)
Agreed. Tuberville is a southerner and that would be a little strange as the face of ND football. Having said that, I could see him as DC.Sudden Sam wrote:I can't even imagine Tuberville at ND as the HC! That just wouldn't look right.
You do know that Mal Moore was an assistant under Faust, don't you?Of course, y'all did hire Gerry Faust...
He's at FAU. They've only been in 1-A since 2005. Short of him fucking the university president's wife, I don't see them getting rid of him anytime soon. Having a coach who won a national championship is a HUGE feather in their cap, even if he is a drunk.KC, I've heard some stories about Schnellenberger, but I had no idea he was that bad. That's damn sad. Hopefully he's straightened up. I assume he has, or he wouldn't be able to hang onto his current job this long.
War Wagon wrote:The first time I click on one of your youtube links will be the first time.
Yeah annoys me as well to hear this all the time. Five Heisman trophies none of the kids are from Texas, four from Oklahoma, one from New Mexico. Six Thorpe Award winners only one is from Texas. Butkuss Winners one is from Texas. More of our Consensus All Americans are from Oklahoma than any other state. You could go on and on. Oklahoma needs to recruit outside the state of Oklahoma to fill up a D1 porgram because of the state's population and Texas is just to the south with a good portion of that state actually living closer to Norman than Austin or College Station; it's only natural that we hit it hard.King Crimson wrote:* people (especially Texans) talk like OU is an all Texas roster. and OU does recruit Texas and has always recruited Texas (remember my 500 mile posts about recruiting over state "loyalty")....but OK State has over half their roster (and every starter on D this year) from Texas. but, no one bashes the Pokes for it.
BSmack wrote:I can certainly infer from that blurb alone that you are self righteous, bible believing, likely a Baptist or Presbyterian...
Miryam wrote:but other than that, it's cool, man. you're a christer.
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Okay, Sunny, yer cards are on table as a flat-out Christer.
I was at ND at that time, so it would be kinda hard for me to forget.Sudden Sam wrote:Wow. i had forgotten about that period. Weird.Terry in Crapchester wrote:You do know that Mal Moore was an assistant under Faust, don't you?Sudden Sam wrote:Of course, y'all did hire Gerry Faust...
War Wagon wrote:The first time I click on one of your youtube links will be the first time.
If it's Kelly, the hire will be made on Friday. If it's not Kelly, I won't be around to know.King Crimson wrote:Killian, if you had to guess, what sort of timetable are we on until an actual hire is made? days, weeks?
Awww, how sweet :) I'm impressed though, dude. Not enough guys talk up their wives so major props to you. About Edsall though, he is a good coach. He built the UConn program from nothing and came into ND and won this year. His team lost pretty much all their games by 2-4 points and UConn could fairly easily be sitting where Cincinnati is now with a few more breaks. He held his team together after one of his players got murdered and that says something about the guy. I think you could do alot worse than him but in all honesty, that hire isn't what ND needs right now. I think ND needs a big name that will get attention and raise expectations. I think Kelly is one of the top coaches in the nation but I don't even think his name generates that kind of excitement. I really thought they'd lure Gruden, Saban, or Meyer there but apparently not. Randy Edsall is a good coach but I can understand your disappointment. I can't see it happening though. I think they'll get a bigger name.Laxplayer wrote:Nah, I'll continue to date my wife. She's a home run.
no offense dude, but you've demonstrated that "you don't get it" about 15 times in the last week on this board as you bandwagon UT. this is yet another. the annoyance is morons like you that both I and SCS have named in our posts. you prove the point, kyoa.mvscal wrote:OU has at least 44 players from Texas, idiots. If it annoys you, pressure your school to stop recruiting in Texas.SunCoastSooner wrote:Yeah annoys me as well to hear this all the time.King Crimson wrote:* people (especially Texans) talk like OU is an all Texas roster. and OU does recruit Texas and has always recruited Texas (remember my 500 mile posts about recruiting over state "loyalty")....but OK State has over half their roster (and every starter on D this year) from Texas. but, no one bashes the Pokes for it.
mvscal wrote:Who brought it up? That's what I thought. I "get" that you two crybabies seem to be pretty insecure that half of your team comes from Texas year in and year out.
BSmack wrote:I can certainly infer from that blurb alone that you are self righteous, bible believing, likely a Baptist or Presbyterian...
Miryam wrote:but other than that, it's cool, man. you're a christer.
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Okay, Sunny, yer cards are on table as a flat-out Christer.
They would have to try really, really hard. He would be a fucking disaster.CintiBearcat92 wrote:I think you could do alot worse than him
You may be right, but he has one winning season in 6 in the Big East. He's 65-65 in his career. He is, at best, a very average recruiter. He screams Tyrone Willingham. I've seen how this race ends.MuchoBulls wrote:Edsall is a good coach and his teams rarely, if ever, beat themselves. His teams are very good defensively, which is something that ND needs pretty badly. If he finds some good offensive asisstants he'd do well there.
If Notre Dame needs a "top notch recruiter" in order to attract kids to Notre Dame, then they're already through.Van wrote:If ND is reduced to having to grab a bland, .500 coach from the Big East whose only claim to fame is seeing one of his players get murdered then just go ahead and pull the plug on them. They ain't coming back. They're through.
Believe it or not, they do. Kids just don't want to deal with everything ND requires of student athletes today. This is why so many kids are heading to schools like SC, Florida, Texas etc....the academic requirements along with the crappy weather, women with clothing and more courdoroy than you can imagine. It takes a special person to recruit a kid to the mid west now. It's not like it was 20+ years ago. With more TV exposure kids are seeing schools in other areas of the country on TV. They're seeing smoking hot women on TV, on their visits etc.....ND doesn't offer than except for the TV package. ND will never win another national championship with the restrictions they have on coaches. With all of these restrictions why would kids want to go there? Yes there are those who have family or religious ties but for the most part kids would rather go elsewhere.If Notre Dame needs a "top notch recruiter" in order to attract kids to Notre Dame, then they're already through.
No offense man, but those situations aren't remotely similar. Tressel was the best coach in 1-AA at a program in Ohio. He knew all the high school coaches in a talent rich state, and took over having those connections. Not the case with ND.CintiBearcat92 wrote:I remember telling people several years ago about a great hire. Everyone around here was screaming about what a disaster it was but I told them that this guy was a hell of a coach and a winner and he'd do just fine. He won a national championship his second year and his name is Jim Tressel. This thing with Edsall is pretty similar. His name doesn't mean much to anyone but he can coach and built something from nothing. Maybe I'm just being a Big East homer but i think he's a good coach. That being said, I still think ND can and should do better and make a bigger splash.
