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Good article in the KC Star fishwrap today that I think whornfan might be interested in:

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/1668493.html
Mr. Nice Guy stands up to softness claims

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NEWPORT BEACH, Calif. | First he delivered an icy glare, then Mack Brown lit into the inquisitor like a typhoon.

Not really, of course. In public persona, Brown brings the bite of a puppy dog. The problem, he says, is his reputation rubs off on his football players. They’re squeezably soft Longhorns, not only in college but in the NFL.

The subject came up in an odd way Wednesday as Brown spoke about tonight’s BCS national-championship game. He was asked to compare himself with Crimson Tide coach Nick Saban, who conducts a more business-like approach.

“It’s funny,” Brown’s response started innocently enough. “I’ve been asked all week if I’m really nice.”

He is. And it doesn’t make him a bad football coach. Nice guys can finish first.

Brown then peeled back the layers of his niceness.

“I mean, I was taught in a small town in Cooksville, Tenn., to say ‘yes, sir’ and ‘no, sir,’ and ‘yes ma’am’ and ‘no, ma’am.’ I was taught to open doors. I was taught to allow ladies to walk through and gentleman older than I to walk through the door before I did. And if I didn’t do that I got whipped. … So I still feel dad standing there when you walk up and shake my hand. I’m going to shake yours. And I’m going to be nice or I’m not going to have anything to say.”

The autopsy of Mr. Nice Guy had a purpose. He hates how his players past and present are portrayed.

“It’s always interesting to me,” Brown said. “I think we have 47 active players in the NFL. We have three guys that have gained 1,000 yards as running backs, and people say our NFL guys are soft. Well, some fools keep drafting them, so I can’t figure out why. And they’re all still playing, and they’re playing very well.

“This football team has won 26 of 27, and they’re soft. I do think it’s perception. I smile, I shake hands. I like for the kids to have fun. These kids are tough.”

Brown went down the soft road later on, again with a direction question about his team’s toughness, this time referring to Texas’ 2005 national-championship game victory over Southern California.

“We sat here in 2005, and SC was an unbelievable team, and I can remember Texas was soft. Our NFL guys were soft. I can remember we don’t have a chance, and our guys played great that night,” Brown said.

Having covered the Big 12 since its inception, Texas softness isn’t an imagined concept, especially early in Brown’s tenure.

In the first few years of their tenures, Bob Stoops’ Oklahoma teams would hit Brown’s clubs in the mouth early and the Longhorns seemingly couldn’t wait to get out of there.

The luxuries afforded players of the conference’s and perhaps the nation’s wealthiest program bred a country-club atmosphere. Selective recruiting — Brown wanted only nice kids and not those from the mean streets — were all part of the speculation.

Who knows? A reporter friend shared an interesting theory, suggesting Texas lands prospects so physically superior than those at most schools they’re not used to competing with players on their level. Some learn how, others never do.

Somebody who would know about the program’s reputation, at least on the pro level, said the soft blanket may cover a certain position.

“That reputation comes maybe from some of their linemen, some of their offensive linemen of the last 10, 12 years,” said former NFL head coach Jon Gruden, part of the national radio broadcast team for tonight’s game.

But there have been others.

“Cedric Benson was a strange bird coming in, Roy Williams, there have been some guys who have not exploded onto the scene like we’d have expected them too,” Gruden said. “But I just saw Brian Orakpo last week. He’s not soft. Jamaal Charles, he’s not soft.

“There have been some disappointments, but everywhere you go you see Longhorns on rosters. Not everybody is going to hit, but I’m a little reserved when I hear that statement.”

What can’t be argued is Texas’ success over the last half-dozen or so years. The Longhorns are bidding for their sixth straight bowl victory. They’ve topped Stoops and the Sooners three of the last four.

Others would like to be so soft.

Now they’ll take on an Alabama team that is being portrayed as, well, tougher than Texas.

Brown disagrees, respectfully.
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They’ve topped Stoops and the Sooners three of the last four.
Nice leg work. It's more like soft won 4 of the last 5.

Soft won the championship. Soft beat Michigan in the Rose Bowl. Soft beat Ohio State in the shoe. Soft beat Ohio State in the Fiesta. Soft went undefeated in the regular season twice since '05 and made it to both national championship games. Soft has 9 consecutive 10 win seasons. If soft keeps this up, I'm a big fan of soft.
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Sorry but outside Orakpo, Leonard Davis (Did Davis even play for Brown? Maybe a Texas fan clear this up for me because he has been in the league for a VERY LONG TIME), Jammer, and maybe Charles there aren't many former shortwhorns who I would thrilled about having on my NFL roster if I were a die hard fan of a team and even they have their drawbacks. Charles is very streaky and has absolutely no consistency to his play... but when he is on he is a beast. Jammer is a certainly a shutdown corner who can tackle but I'll be damned if he doesn't have some of the worst hands of any specialty player in the league; one of my closest friends is a die hard Charger and loves the guy so I get subjected to a lot of his games and don't think I can even begin to count how many times balls have hit him in the hands of chest and hey not get the oskie. Orakpo tends to over pursue but other than that is probably the best player I have seen Texas put out recently as far as translating to the league.

Some of their other players:

Cedric Benson isn't even always on the active roster for the Bengals.

Justin Blalock is a good pass blocker but couldn't block for a running play if his life depended upon it.

Tarell Brown is technically in the league on the 49ers roster but has only started four games in three years.

Quan Crosby, did this guy even play? I don't remember seeing him on the field for the Bengals damn near ever and certainly don't remember him making any catches.

Tim Crowder is an average to below average DE for the Bucs.

Dawson is a kicker who didn't even play for Brown because he has been the NFL since I was starting in college.

Dockery is another guy who is only technically in the league... dude barely even sees the field for the freakin' Redskins.

Jermichael Finley had his moments this season, I'll give him that but there are still at least a dozen TEs or more I would rather have than him on my roster.

Cedric Griffen has had good years and average years.

Michael Griffen is pretty good... Forgot about him since he isn't all that flashy, probably should have mentioned him at the top of the page.

Ahmard Hall... how often does Tennessee use a FB, 'nuff said.

Casey Hampton has had a pretty solid career overall. One of those sort of players just sort of hangs around in the league and produces just enough to make it... kind of like Kelly Gregg for the Ravens.

Tony Hills is in the NFL? Who the fuck knew that?

Michael Huff has had some good seasons but nothing overwhelming... I thought he would be a better player than he has turned out overall. Almost considered him a can't miss.

Derrick Johnson... jebus christos Derrick Johnson. Dude is a gifted athlete who couldn't spell Cat if you spotted him the C and the T.

D.D. Lewis... I didn't even know he was in the league and haven't really ever seen him on the field for the Seahawks... but then again there weren't many reasons to watch them either.

Loeffler hasn't seen a down since the Vikes started rebuilding their line and was a major part the previous lines were considered an abomination.

Okam... forgot about him... he deserved mentioning at the top of the page. He's a good baller.

Richmond McGee wasn't signed until December this year and still never got the ball on the Tee as a kicker.

Roy Miller... you're joking, right? Gotta be...

Derek Lokey... Bwahahahahahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol:

Henry Melton... see Derek Lokey :lol:

Chris Ogbonnaya... How do you be so terrible that you have to rely on injuries to get a snap for the fuckin' Rams???

Cory Redding... see Obonngaya and replace Rams with Seahawks.

Brian Robinson is on the Vikings roster... that about sums it up.

Shaun Rogers... even when healthy he isn't very good.

Lyle Sendlein... practice squad cannon fodder.

Christina Simms :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Nathan Vasher... can't complain too much about him. He's above average when he is healthy enough to play.

The Fake Roy Williams... Fuck him... just fuck him in his mouth, ass, ears, and every other hole he has... This sorry ass son of a bitch doesn't deserve to be a #2 receiver on a roster much less a #1... Mother fucker couldn't catch herpes in a San Fransisco bath house... single handedly cost the Cowboys at least two games this season... Just fuck him!!!

Mike Williams... I think the father of my G-d Daughter (Deadskins fan) says it best about him... may he be found floating face down in the Potomac.

Vince Young... Radio! Need I say more.

Jonathan Scott... Good luck in the CFL next year buddy.

David Thomas... he picked it up at the end of last season but still average at best.

Kasey Studdard... do what?

Aaron Ross... may be done playing football with all the hammy problems he has had. Has never been healthy enough to play in a full season.
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SunCoastSooner wrote:Charles is very streaky and has absolutely no consistency to his play...
What? You should have stopped right there.

Charles didn't get the starting job until week 9, after LJ had been sent packing. Before that, he was strictly a 3rd down back and seldom got more than a few touches per game.

He gained over a 1,000 yards in the last 8 game. He averaged over 5 yards a carry for the entire season. Do you know how many RB's in NFL history with at least 150 carries have done that? About 5.
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SunCoastSooner wrote:Charles is very streaky and has absolutely no consistency to his play...
What? You should have stopped right there.

Charles didn't get the starting job until week 9, after LJ had been sent packing. Before that, he was strictly a 3rd down back and seldom got more than a few touches per game.

He gained over a 1,000 yards in the last 8 game. He averaged over 5 yards a carry for the entire season. Do you know how many RB's in NFL history with at least 150 carries have done that? About 5.
Why wasn't he able to surplant LJ then? I think the team just started to come together more and the line started playing better myself. The Chiefs early in the season didn't have a clue and the Oline was the worst of it. They started to come more together as the season progressed though. I understand your need to defend your team but Charles overall as an individual looked about average to me.
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PrimeX wrote:Soft went undefeated in the regular season twice
Yup, their scheduling is definitely soft.

Their trophy case should feature some bronzed weathervanes next to the crystal football.
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This is suck to type, but...
Okam... forgot about him... he deserved mentioning at the top of the page. He's a good baller.
Dude sucked so bad for the Texans he was barely allowed in the stadium.

Your also forgot Limas Sweed who plays for Pittsburgh and had one catch this year.

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What a stupid fucking article and a stupid fucking thinhg to discuss when talking about the NC game. Evidence that there are far too many sports writers and far too many outlets that publish this inane bullshit.

May Texas totally fuck up Saban tonight...
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SunCoastSooner wrote: Why wasn't he able to surplant LJ then? I think the team just started to come together more and the line started playing better myself. The Chiefs early in the season didn't have a clue and the Oline was the worst of it. They started to come more together as the season progressed though. I understand your need to defend your team but Charles overall as an individual looked about average to me.
It has nothing to do with defending my team and everything to do with a very talented, elusive runner. I don't know how much you got to watch him, evidently not much, but he was anything but average.

As for why he wasn't starting over LJ, good question. Most likely because barring injury, 3rd year back-up RB's making league minimum or thereabouts seldom get an opportunity over 7 year, Pro Bowl vets making 6 mil a year. That, and Haley was a dumbfuck. Thank God they dumped LJ or we may have never seen what he was capable of.
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SunCoastSooner wrote:Leonard Davis (Did Davis even play for Brown? Maybe a Texas fan clear this up for me because he has been in the league for a VERY LONG TIME)
Played for 3 season under Brown I believe. In 2000 he was a first team All-American as a senior. He either won or was a finalist for the Outland trophy that year as well.
Kasey Studdard... do what?
Played very well on the Texans O-Line once he got a chance to start due to injuries. Big fan.
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SunCoastSooner wrote: Why wasn't he able to surplant LJ then? I think the team just started to come together more and the line started playing better myself. The Chiefs early in the season didn't have a clue and the Oline was the worst of it. They started to come more together as the season progressed though. I understand your need to defend your team but Charles overall as an individual looked about average to me.
It has nothing to do with defending my team and everything to do with a very talented, elusive runner. I don't know how much you got to watch him, evidently not much, but he was anything but average.

As for why he wasn't starting over LJ, good question. Most likely because barring injury, 3rd year back-up RB's making league minimum or thereabouts seldom get an opportunity over 7 year, Pro Bowl vets making 6 mil a year. That, and Haley was a dumbfuck. Thank God they dumped LJ or we may have never seen what he was capable of.
You're absolutely correct that I didn't see him much. Not that I couldn't have because where we watch ball has ever game being played on at least one big screen and my reserved table has views of just about all but one of them. More had to do with the fact by the time he got time on the field the Chiefs were an NFL after thought and simply didn't have many interesting match ups that didn't compete with Cowboys or Chargers games. I get stuck watching the Chargers on one of the big screens in front of us because like I have mentioned one of my closest friends is from SD originally and the manager makes sure I have the Cowboys close up as well. I like the Chiefs a great deal; if not for the Cowboys they would be my team, my grandfather was a die hard and took me to almost as many Chiefs games as my dad did Cowboys games growing up before he passed away.
PrimeX wrote:This is suck to type, but...
Okam... forgot about him... he deserved mentioning at the top of the page. He's a good baller.
Dude sucked so bad for the Texans he was barely allowed in the stadium.

Your also forgot Limas Sweed who plays for Pittsburgh and had one catch this year.

Fuck me. :|
I thought Okam played better than that early in the season personally but I also didn't get to see him much either. When I did he looked liked he filled the holes pretty well though. Didn't he get injured this season?

Limas Sweed is easy to forget... another overrated Bonghorn to come out of Austin at the position... Next up Chumply and his gay solo guitar songs about Brokeback Travis County. :D
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SunCoastSooner wrote:Sorry but outside Orakpo, Leonard Davis (Did Davis even play for Brown? Maybe a Texas fan clear this up for me because he has been in the league for a VERY LONG TIME), Jammer, and maybe Charles there aren't many former shortwhorns who I would thrilled about having on my NFL roster if I were a die hard fan of a team and even they have their drawbacks. Charles is very streaky and has absolutely no consistency to his play... but when he is on he is a beast. Jammer is a certainly a shutdown corner who can tackle but I'll be damned if he doesn't have some of the worst hands of any specialty player in the league; one of my closest friends is a die hard Charger and loves the guy so I get subjected to a lot of his games and don't think I can even begin to count how many times balls have hit him in the hands of chest and hey not get the oskie. Orakpo tends to over pursue but other than that is probably the best player I have seen Texas put out recently as far as translating to the league.

Some of their other players:

Cedric Benson isn't even always on the active roster for the Bengals.

Justin Blalock is a good pass blocker but couldn't block for a running play if his life depended upon it.

Tarell Brown is technically in the league on the 49ers roster but has only started four games in three years.

Quan Crosby, did this guy even play? I don't remember seeing him on the field for the Bengals damn near ever and certainly don't remember him making any catches.

Tim Crowder is an average to below average DE for the Bucs.

Dawson is a kicker who didn't even play for Brown because he has been the NFL since I was starting in college.

Dockery is another guy who is only technically in the league... dude barely even sees the field for the freakin' Redskins.

Jermichael Finley had his moments this season, I'll give him that but there are still at least a dozen TEs or more I would rather have than him on my roster.

Cedric Griffen has had good years and average years.

Michael Griffen is pretty good... Forgot about him since he isn't all that flashy, probably should have mentioned him at the top of the page.

Ahmard Hall... how often does Tennessee use a FB, 'nuff said.

Casey Hampton has had a pretty solid career overall. One of those sort of players just sort of hangs around in the league and produces just enough to make it... kind of like Kelly Gregg for the Ravens.

Tony Hills is in the NFL? Who the fuck knew that?

Michael Huff has had some good seasons but nothing overwhelming... I thought he would be a better player than he has turned out overall. Almost considered him a can't miss.

Derrick Johnson... jebus christos Derrick Johnson. Dude is a gifted athlete who couldn't spell Cat if you spotted him the C and the T.

D.D. Lewis... I didn't even know he was in the league and haven't really ever seen him on the field for the Seahawks... but then again there weren't many reasons to watch them either.

Loeffler hasn't seen a down since the Vikes started rebuilding their line and was a major part the previous lines were considered an abomination.

Okam... forgot about him... he deserved mentioning at the top of the page. He's a good baller.

Richmond McGee wasn't signed until December this year and still never got the ball on the Tee as a kicker.

Roy Miller... you're joking, right? Gotta be...

Derek Lokey... Bwahahahahahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol:

Henry Melton... see Derek Lokey :lol:

Chris Ogbonnaya... How do you be so terrible that you have to rely on injuries to get a snap for the fuckin' Rams???

Cory Redding... see Obonngaya and replace Rams with Seahawks.

Brian Robinson is on the Vikings roster... that about sums it up.

Shaun Rogers... even when healthy he isn't very good.

Lyle Sendlein... practice squad cannon fodder.

Christina Simms :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Nathan Vasher... can't complain too much about him. He's above average when he is healthy enough to play.

The Fake Roy Williams... Fuck him... just fuck him in his mouth, ass, ears, and every other hole he has... This sorry ass son of a bitch doesn't deserve to be a #2 receiver on a roster much less a #1... Mother fucker couldn't catch herpes in a San Fransisco bath house... single handedly cost the Cowboys at least two games this season... Just fuck him!!!

Mike Williams... I think the father of my G-d Daughter (Deadskins fan) says it best about him... may he be found floating face down in the Potomac.

Vince Young... Radio! Need I say more.

Jonathan Scott... Good luck in the CFL next year buddy.

David Thomas... he picked it up at the end of last season but still average at best.

Kasey Studdard... do what?

Aaron Ross... may be done playing football with all the hammy problems he has had. Has never been healthy enough to play in a full season.
Suncoast you are the biggest cheese dick moron in the history of this forum. 25 of the 42 guys you listed are starters in the NFL. I know you are baiting, but even for you this is stoopid. Texas had 3 guys in the NFL who rushed for 1000 yards. Redding Rodgers, Hampton, Okam are some of the best in the league at DT. Derrick Johnson is the best defender on the KC roster. The fact is Texas has maintained 40+ players in the NFL for the last 5 season. I guess that is because all the NFL GMs are not as smart as you.

Now run along and eat a red hot flaming bag of dicks moron.

EDIT: I left out one little thing. It's pretty well known that stoopid has out recruited Texas and just about everyone else over the last few seasons, but why is it that there are only about 20 gooners in the NFL vs 42 for Texas. I thought stoopid was supposed to be the master at developing talent? Lets see you get more talent than Texas and yet you can't seem to put them into the NFL?
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PrimeX wrote:I bronzed your moms weathervane last night.

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your mom's a fag.

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I love how some of you peeps continually judge the validity of a college program by the success some of the graduates hae in the NFL. What is load of shit. Fuck the NFL. I can't stand to watch it. I'd rather watch Troy play Central Michigan. I'd rather watch Eric Crouch, Pat White, even Steve Walsh. Those guys are college players not a bunch of rich NFL rock stars. And if Texas is soft what does that say about the 10-11 teams they beat every year. Pussies? We already new Bob Stoops and OU likes to club baby seal, and steal from the poor, but suck cock too? Enlightening. Greatest thread of all time. May as well disband the Texas football program. They can't even ensure NFL success.
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campinfool wrote:I love how some of you peeps continually judge the validity of a college program by the success some of the graduates hae in the NFL. What is load of shit. Fuck the NFL. I can't stand to watch it.
Talented players go to colleges like Texas precisely because of the NFL and the potential future of getting paid. They damn sure don't go there for the education.
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Vito Corleone wrote:Okam are some of the best in the league at DT. D
Sorry brah, I love my Longhorns, but dude played like shit on our (Texans) D line. It's why he's a second/third stringer. His motor quits after 2 plays.
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Anyone still think Texas is soft? That was the guttiest performance I've seen in a long time. Texas fought all night long and put themselves in position to play for the win with 3 min left in the 4th. But those are the breaks. No excuses good win for Bama, but I leave this game loving the fight we showed.
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JMak wrote:What a stupid fucking article and a stupid fucking thinhg to discuss when talking about the NC game. Evidence that there are far too many sports writers and far too many outlets that publish this inane bullshit.

May Texas totally fuck up Saban tonight...
Quoted, as it's the best post in the thread. Total truth.

Except, he spelled "thing" wrong and stuff.
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SunCoastSooner wrote:Sorry but outside Orakpo, Leonard Davis (Did Davis even play for Brown? Maybe a Texas fan clear this up for me because he has been in the league for a VERY LONG TIME), Jammer, and maybe Charles there aren't many former shortwhorns who I would thrilled about having on my NFL roster if I were a die hard fan of a team and even they have their drawbacks. Charles is very streaky and has absolutely no consistency to his play... but when he is on he is a beast. Jammer is a certainly a shutdown corner who can tackle but I'll be damned if he doesn't have some of the worst hands of any specialty player in the league; one of my closest friends is a die hard Charger and loves the guy so I get subjected to a lot of his games and don't think I can even begin to count how many times balls have hit him in the hands of chest and hey not get the oskie. Orakpo tends to over pursue but other than that is probably the best player I have seen Texas put out recently as far as translating to the league.

Some of their other players:

Cedric Benson isn't even always on the active roster for the Bengals.

Justin Blalock is a good pass blocker but couldn't block for a running play if his life depended upon it.

Tarell Brown is technically in the league on the 49ers roster but has only started four games in three years.

Quan Crosby, did this guy even play? I don't remember seeing him on the field for the Bengals damn near ever and certainly don't remember him making any catches.

Tim Crowder is an average to below average DE for the Bucs.

Dawson is a kicker who didn't even play for Brown because he has been the NFL since I was starting in college.

Dockery is another guy who is only technically in the league... dude barely even sees the field for the freakin' Redskins.

Jermichael Finley had his moments this season, I'll give him that but there are still at least a dozen TEs or more I would rather have than him on my roster.

Cedric Griffen has had good years and average years.

Michael Griffen is pretty good... Forgot about him since he isn't all that flashy, probably should have mentioned him at the top of the page.

Ahmard Hall... how often does Tennessee use a FB, 'nuff said.

Casey Hampton has had a pretty solid career overall. One of those sort of players just sort of hangs around in the league and produces just enough to make it... kind of like Kelly Gregg for the Ravens.

Tony Hills is in the NFL? Who the fuck knew that?

Michael Huff has had some good seasons but nothing overwhelming... I thought he would be a better player than he has turned out overall. Almost considered him a can't miss.

Derrick Johnson... jebus christos Derrick Johnson. Dude is a gifted athlete who couldn't spell Cat if you spotted him the C and the T.

D.D. Lewis... I didn't even know he was in the league and haven't really ever seen him on the field for the Seahawks... but then again there weren't many reasons to watch them either.

Loeffler hasn't seen a down since the Vikes started rebuilding their line and was a major part the previous lines were considered an abomination.

Okam... forgot about him... he deserved mentioning at the top of the page. He's a good baller.

Richmond McGee wasn't signed until December this year and still never got the ball on the Tee as a kicker.

Roy Miller... you're joking, right? Gotta be...

Derek Lokey... Bwahahahahahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol:

Henry Melton... see Derek Lokey :lol:

Chris Ogbonnaya... How do you be so terrible that you have to rely on injuries to get a snap for the fuckin' Rams???

Cory Redding... see Obonngaya and replace Rams with Seahawks.

Brian Robinson is on the Vikings roster... that about sums it up.

Shaun Rogers... even when healthy he isn't very good.

Lyle Sendlein... practice squad cannon fodder.

Christina Simms :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Nathan Vasher... can't complain too much about him. He's above average when he is healthy enough to play.

The Fake Roy Williams... Fuck him... just fuck him in his mouth, ass, ears, and every other hole he has... This sorry ass son of a bitch doesn't deserve to be a #2 receiver on a roster much less a #1... Mother fucker couldn't catch herpes in a San Fransisco bath house... single handedly cost the Cowboys at least two games this season... Just fuck him!!!

Mike Williams... I think the father of my G-d Daughter (Deadskins fan) says it best about him... may he be found floating face down in the Potomac.

Vince Young... Radio! Need I say more.

Jonathan Scott... Good luck in the CFL next year buddy.

David Thomas... he picked it up at the end of last season but still average at best.

Kasey Studdard... do what?

Aaron Ross... may be done playing football with all the hammy problems he has had. Has never been healthy enough to play in a full season.
Suncoast you are the biggest cheese dick moron in the history of this forum. 25 of the 42 guys you listed are starters in the NFL. I know you are baiting, but even for you this is stoopid. Texas had 3 guys in the NFL who rushed for 1000 yards. Redding Rodgers, Hampton, Okam are some of the best in the league at DT. Derrick Johnson is the best defender on the KC roster. The fact is Texas has maintained 40+ players in the NFL for the last 5 season. I guess that is because all the NFL GMs are not as smart as you.

Now run along and eat a red hot flaming bag of dicks moron.

EDIT: I left out one little thing. It's pretty well known that stoopid has out recruited Texas and just about everyone else over the last few seasons, but why is it that there are only about 20 gooners in the NFL vs 42 for Texas. I thought stoopid was supposed to be the master at developing talent? Lets see you get more talent than Texas and yet you can't seem to put them into the NFL?
Yellow Tooth has outrecruited Bob? Are you that Stupid?

2009: Rivals Recruiting rankings 2009 http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/co ... CID=823591
ESPN http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiti ... smonth%3d1

2008 http://rivals100.rivals.com/teamrank.asp?SID=880
2007 http://rivals100.rivals.com/TeamRank.as ... &year=2007
2006 http://rivals100.rivals.com/TeamRank.as ... &year=2006
2005 http://rivals100.rivals.com/TeamRank.as ... &year=2005
2004 http://rivals100.rivals.com/TeamRank.as ... &year=2004
2003 http://rivals100.rivals.com/TeamRank.as ... &year=2004
2002 http://rivals100.rivals.com/TeamRank.as ... &year=2002

BTW... 20 players in the NFL? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Try 32 at the mnimum.
CBS http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... chool/6879
and Even your precious ESPuN which you cited earlier doesn't agree with you... http://espn.go.com/nfl/college/_/letter/o

Thank you for being my bitch. I feel for Harv and Prime having to show their faces here with the likes of you running around. :lol:
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Vito Corleone wrote:Anyone still think Texas is soft? That was the guttiest performance I've seen in a long time. Texas fought all night long and put themselves in position to play for the win with 3 min left in the 4th. But those are the breaks. No excuses good win for Bama, but I leave this game loving the fight we showed.
Texas definitely showed fight but I would say Texas could be called soft in that their O isn't physical. With their status as recruiting-monster they should be able to consistently pound the rock. They can't.
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Danimal wrote:
Vito Corleone wrote:Anyone still think Texas is soft? That was the guttiest performance I've seen in a long time. Texas fought all night long and put themselves in position to play for the win with 3 min left in the 4th. But those are the breaks. No excuses good win for Bama, but I leave this game loving the fight we showed.
Texas definitely showed fight but I would say Texas could be called soft in that their O isn't physical. With their status as recruiting-monster they should be able to consistently pound the rock. They can't.
But Vito just clearly stated they aren't a recruiting monster and Stoops out recruits them "every" year. :meds: :lol:
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i don't see how UT can't land the "marquee" back like C. Michael, A. Peterson, the other ATM just wasted even though he was kind of a moron who's name escapes me (M. Goodson), Jermie Calhoun.......this is not a flame, just curious.

this class may have that answer though. possibly.
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Did you bother looking at those recruiting rankings?

I will lay them out for you, (keep in mind I think Rivals sucks donkey balls.)

2008
blOwU - 6
Texas - 14

2007
blOwU - 14
Texas - 5

2006
Texas - 5
blOwU - 9

2005
blOwU - 3
Texas - 20

2004
blOwU - 8
Texas - 10

2003
blOwU - 4
Texas - 16

2002
blOwU - 7
Texas - 1

So to count it off I believe between 2002 and 2008 the gooners have out recruited Texas 4 years to 3. And with all those great recruiting classes according to espn you have 29 guys in the NFL. Since little game bob is such a great developer of talent there must be some reason why Texas has so many more guys in the league than the gooners have, I just can't wait to hear it?
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Vito Corleone wrote:Did you bother looking at those recruiting rankings?

I will lay them out for you, (keep in mind I think Rivals sucks donkey balls.)

2008
blOwU - 6
Texas - 14

2007
blOwU - 14
Texas - 5

2006
Texas - 5
blOwU - 9

2005
blOwU - 3
Texas - 20

2004
blOwU - 8
Texas - 10

2003
blOwU - 4
Texas - 16

2002
blOwU - 7
Texas - 1

So to count it off I believe between 2002 and 2008 the gooners have out recruited Texas 4 years to 3. And with all those great recruiting classes according to espn you have 29 guys in the NFL. Since little game bob is such a great developer of talent there must be some reason why Texas has so many more guys in the league than the gooners have, I just can't wait to hear it?
Sounds like Texcuses to me... wow a you just proved your point about Bob always outrecruiting Yellow Tooth right there. :meds:

Little game Bob, has just as many national titles as Yellow Tooth, the heads up record, and twice as many conference titles... congrats on the ass beating you received tonight... I love the way how you claim Oklahoma got blown out in three title games but this was a "close call playing smashmouth football" when two of Oklahoma's loses were by fewer points and in even the blowout against USC Oklahoma produced more offense than Texass did tonight. :lol:

363 yards > 276 yards.
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King Crimson wrote:i don't see how UT can't land the "marquee" back like C. Michael, A. Peterson, the other ATM just wasted even though he was kind of a moron who's name escapes me (M. Goodson), Jermie Calhoun.......this is not a flame, just curious.

this class may have that answer though. possibly.
Michael screwed around, blew the coaches off twice and because of it Texas moved on, later in the process he did mention to some rag that he tried to get back in touch with the Texas coaches but it was too late.

Texas went after Peterson hard but he made his business decision and chose the Sooners because they win Championships.

Texas will not recruit any player that chooses to use a street agent so that has basically killed us with Goodson, Seastrunk, and the Richardson kid at Bama.

Still have no clue why we would visit Calhoun and leave without ever making him an offer or recruiting him. Some say grades, some say other issues, some say he lied to the Texas coaches, but it is what it is.

I'm hoping we have better luck with the running back class from next season. We are going after Malcolm Brown and Aaron Green pretty hard.
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Vito Corleone wrote: I'm hoping we have better luck with the running back class from next season. We are going after Malcolm Brown and Aaron Green pretty hard.
Luckily you don't have to worry about OU much at that position in the near future given recent history... Murray, Calhoun, Miller... plus two of the nation's top 10 RBs in Brandon Clay and Roy Finch coming in.
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SunCoastSooner wrote:
Vito Corleone wrote:Did you bother looking at those recruiting rankings?

I will lay them out for you, (keep in mind I think Rivals sucks donkey balls.)

2008
blOwU - 6
Texas - 14

2007
blOwU - 14
Texas - 5

2006
Texas - 5
blOwU - 9

2005
blOwU - 3
Texas - 20

2004
blOwU - 8
Texas - 10

2003
blOwU - 4
Texas - 16

2002
blOwU - 7
Texas - 1

So to count it off I believe between 2002 and 2008 the gooners have out recruited Texas 4 years to 3. And with all those great recruiting classes according to espn you have 29 guys in the NFL. Since little game bob is such a great developer of talent there must be some reason why Texas has so many more guys in the league than the gooners have, I just can't wait to hear it?
Sounds like Texcuses to me... wow a you just proved your point about Bob always outrecruiting Yellow Tooth right there. :meds:

Little game Bob, has just as many national titles as Yellow Tooth, the heads up record, and twice as many conference titles... congrats on the ass beating you received tonight... I love the way how you claim Oklahoma got blown out in three title games but this was a "close call playing smashmouth football" when two of Oklahoma's loses were by fewer points and in even the blowout against USC Oklahoma produced more offense than Texass did tonight. :lol:

363 yards > 276 yards.
I don't need to make excuses I have facts.

Fact one - over the given period of time (2002-2008) Texas avg recruiting class = 10. blOwU avg recruiting class = 7.
Fact two - Texas has currently 42 kids pulling an NFL paycheck. blOwU has 29.
Fact three - Texas just played for the MNC and is currently ranked by the AP #2, blOwU = unranked
Fact four - Texas has beaten blowU 4 of the last 5 meetings
Fact five - Your still a cheese dick
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Vito Corleone wrote:
I don't need to make excuses I have facts.

Fact one - over the given period of time (2002-2008) Texas avg recruiting class = 10. blOwU avg recruiting class = 7.
Fact two - Texas has currently 42 kids pulling an NFL paycheck. blOwU has 29.
Fact three - Texas just played for the MNC and is currently ranked by the AP #2, blOwU = unranked
Fact four - Texas has beaten blowU 4 of the last 5 meetings
Fact five - Your still a cheese dick
Of your 42 players getting NFL pay checks twelve of them spend more time on the practice squad and inactive than they play... including Okam which you lauded earlier. You also need to go back and check you facts... Oklahoma has 31 players receiving NFL paychecks. Finally, if Andy is here, he may have his wireless capable laptop, but if he doesn’t, please do not dominate the computer here for hours on end… and over that same period since 2002 Oklahoma has six conference titles while texass has three.
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