The New Arrowhead

[Truman]

Nice crib. Don't know if the new digs will translate into Wags's Division Title, but the locals should be comfy regardless.

Hate that Sunday's inaugural game is a soccer match, but it IS Man U...

[War Wagon]

Lamar would be proud.

[mvscal]

Looks like the local taxpayers got bent the fuck over on that deal.

Enjoy it....if you can afford to.

[BSmack]

Lamar would be proud.

Where's the roof?

[War Wagon]

Looks like the local taxpayers got bent the fuck over on that deal.

Depends on who you ask. Jackson county voters approved a 3/8 cent sales tax increase to fund the renovations and some residents were and are quite understandably upset about it, s'up Scotty? But the residents of the other 5 or 6 metro counties are quite impressed, epecially the rich fucks in Johnson County, Kansas who are the majority of season ticket holders.

Enjoy it....if you can afford to.

Shit, I can't even afford the parking.

[Truman]

Looks like the local taxpayers got bent the fuck over on that deal.

Enjoy it....if you can afford to.

Ah. More Wisdom from this Forum’s Resident asshat. Feel free to list the Murph’s next sell-out that isn’t Oakland. Oh, that’s right... You can’t. And that sound you hear? Why, that’s the window slamming on any Super Bowl hopes you fucking Loser’s may have ever had...

Enjoy your 0-1 start, Fucktard.

[Truman]

Lamar would be proud.

Where's the roof?

Complicated issue, B. Defeated by Vote, Courtesy of the Good Folks of Jackson County, Missouri.

We likes our outdoor football in these parts, Bri

Area sports fans wanted to see the Royals relocated downtown, and a retractable roof football stadium built on the footprint of the old “K”. Unfortunately, that wasn’t the choice presented to taxpayers on the ballot three years ago. It was pretty much, Renovate or Watch the Teams Flee.

A roof woulda guaranteed a Final Four or three - in the tradition of Kansas City – and possibly a SuperBowl. Didn’t happen. Teams ain’t goin’ nowhere anyhow. Is what it is...

[War Wagon]

Look at the Sprint Center if you want to see another collossal waste of Tax money.

What?

The Sprint Center has been a huge success and is rated in the top 3 of concert venues nationwide.

[Truman]

Unfortunately, that wasn’t the choice presented to taxpayers on the ballot three years ago. It was pretty much, Renovate or Watch the Teams Flee.

Don't tell me you fell for that line of bullshit Tim.
The fucking Jags can't even move - and they're sure as hell in a lot worse shape than the Chiefs were revenue wise.
Nobody cities can afford to bring any teams in - and that won't change in the foreseeable future

We argued this three years ago, Br’er.

You were wrong then.

And you’re wrong now.

Kansas STAR bonds and the ‘dotte were a real threat to take the Missouri outta the Chiefs. Not a damn thing wrong with the Chiefs current location. The Royals, on the otherhand...

A roof woulda guaranteed a Final Four or three - in the tradition of Kansas City – and possibly a SuperBowl.

Maybe a final 4 - but a Super Bowl?
Dude we don't have enough hotel space for FFA - and that's just for starters.

Look at the Sprint Center if you want to see another collossal waste of Tax money.
Shit - for somebody so political - I'm stunned you could write something that pollyannish

A roof approval pretty-much guaranteed a Kansas City Super Bowl. And Sprint Center IS turning a profit... Despite the fact that neither you, me, or Wags had the chance to vote on it.

As for MY politics?

Save your outrage.

Personally, I take a Vietnamese approach where politics begin and end at the garden gate. BTW, I’m not the one wasting keystrokes and getting my ass kicked defending the muppet currently occupying the Oval Office....

[War Wagon]

You were wrong then.

And you’re wrong now.

Scott is like Katy Horner predicting the weather 5 days from now... right sometimes, more often wrong, but never 'fessing up when the forecast goes awry.

[poptart]

The New Arrowhead

http://www.jbott.com/shave1.mp3

[mvscal]

It was pretty much, Renovate or Watch the Teams Flee.

And you couldn't drop to your knees, plant your face in the dirt and splay your ass cheeks apart fast enough, could you?

Dumbfucks.

[poptart]

Damn, that must have sucked.

And now Wagon can't even pay for parking.

[Paul]

It was pretty much, Renovate or Watch the Teams Flee.

And you couldn't drop to your knees, plant your face in the dirt and splay your ass cheeks apart fast enough, could you?

Dumbfucks.

The sheep in our county did just that because of those scare tactics....I voted AGAINST the stadium upgrade tax because they could've built a BRAND NEW stadium for the Royals downtown and provided Arrowhead with a rolling cover for what they spent "renovating" those two cribs. Having said that, the "K" looks amazing now and has a lot more amenities....and I can't judge Arrowhead yet until I go to a game this season and see for myself what all was "upgraded".

[Truman]

Well, now, nice to see the Korean Penninsula weigh in on this topic...

Why is it that the Raiders are the ONLY team that could comfortably play home games in Pyongyang? Could it be the razor wire surrounding the field and the machine-gun turrets stationed at each gate that would make the experience so reminiscent of the Oakland-Alameda Coliseum?

I suppose if Clark Hunt and the Chiefs had added an interactive meth-lab, homeless shelter, and soup-kitchen concession to the Arrowhead renovation, you Primer-'n-Grease-types might feel right at home. Pity. Sucks to be you....

[Truman]

And you couldn't drop to your knees, plant your face in the dirt and splay your ass cheeks apart fast enough, could you?

Dumbfucks.

Um, was there a point to your post, asshat, or are you content to thrill us with brain-dead, IKYABWAI platitudes?

Nevertheless, the City and the Chargers appear to be planning a new stadium using public monies. The cost of a new San Diego stadium at the currently hypothesized downtown site is now estimated to be $800 million. The Chargers are proposing to invest about $200 million to build a 62,000 seat stadium, with the balance to come from: $500 million, and $100 million from a National Football League (NFL) financing program. However, the NFL funding is apparently not available, so the public financing could be about $600 million. Moreover, with the latest construction proposal, a retractable roof2, the $800 million estimate may well be significantly low. The new roofed stadium of the Dallas Cowboys that opened in 2009 cost $1.2 billion, of which owner Jerry Jones put up $800 million.

Going out on a Sequoia here, but here's guessing that your city government has a weather-eye out for the threat of the second largest media market in America lurking just up the street to boost your team.



Look familiar?

Be sure to let us know how that tax protest of yours works out for you. Oh, and please feel free to face-fuck a speeding commuter train while you're at it... TIA.

[mvscal]

Not my city team. The Chargers have been trying to get a new stadium for years and nobody wants to bite on public funding. In LA there is absolutely no chance in hell of a publicly funded stadium happening. Of course if you weren't such a worthless cunt you would have posted the rest of the report which was highly skeptical of the use of public funding in San Diego.

Needless to say, this isn't about the Chargers. This is about the dumb hick lardasses who bent over for Clar Khunt. The attempt to change the subject is just another bitch move from a worthless cunt.

[Truman]

Lotta Revisionist, grumpy-ass, curmudgeonly-malcontent-types up in this bitch….

Tell ya what, Paulie: If either you or Scottie can link me up to the ballot language presented to the Good Taxpayers of Jackson County, Missouri, suggesting an up-and-down decision to build a downtown baseball stadium for the Royals AND a retractable roof football stadium for the Chiefs, then I will freely admit that I pissed down my leg when I voted for renovation.

Take your time.

Bottom Line: Such language NEVER existed. Sweet Christ. I cannot believe that we’re still arguing this….
The stadium leases were horribly out of compliance. You need look to look no further than the Kansas Speedway – stolen out from under Wags’s purview – to see that Wyco, KCK and the Legends were poised to snatch the Chiefs.

As for the Royals… Despite Scott’s assertions, do you SERIOUSLY doubt that the likes of San Antonia, Charlotte, Oke City, and half-a-dozen other mid-market American municipalities wouldn’t warp-speed a ballot issue through to build a stadium to house the Royals? If you do, then you’re dumber than a whole cargo-container ship full of mvscals.

Look, Bro, there was not a bigger proponent for downtown baseball and a brand-new, built-from-scratch, retractable roof New Arrowhead. A shiny new “K” would’ve been the Crown Jewel for a revitalized City Center, and, given our history and one of the best college basketball host committees in the country, a new retractable roof Arrowhead would’ve easily played into the regular Final Four rotation along with Indy.

I suppose the happy news is we get to vote on all this shit all over again in about 25 years. Our failing as a county was that Arrowhead and the K were built too well. Blue hair voters in Independence were bent on preserving “tradition”. Whatever. The County Fair in the K’s outfield will eventually run thin, and Clark Hunt will soon have his hand out demanding new revenue streams. The K will never be Wrigley or Fenway. Unfortunately, it’s gonna be up to our kids to get it right....

[Truman]

Not my city team. The Chargers have been trying to get a new stadium for years and nobody wants to bite on public funding. In LA there is absolutely no chance in hell of a publicly funded stadium happening. Of course if you weren't such a worthless cunt you would have posted the rest of the report which was highly skeptical of the use of public funding in San Diego.

Needless to say, this isn't about the Chargers. This is about the dumb hick lardasses who bent over for Clar Khunt. The attempt to change the subject is just another bitch move from a worthless cunt.

Not your city team?! Fuck, you’re not even a Resident. Just die. Now. You’re a hundred fucking miles up the freeway. So who’s Bandwagon are you on this year, Loser? Way to make a stand, Asshat. That said, I could truly give a flying mvscal’s ass WHO you root for. All I know is that you regularly have your nuts neutered when jocking the Blots every-third-post on this Board. And if YOU weren’t such a flaming pile of shit, you would have actually read the rest of the report which was highly skeptical of the use of public funding in San Diego. Tough testicles, fuckstick. San Diego’s gonna pay.

Looks to me like a case of dropping to your knees, planting your face in the dirt and splaying your ass cheeks apart as fast possible. Dropping a cap in yours couldn’t happen fast enough.

[War Wagon]

You need look to look no further than the Kansas Speedway – stolen out from under Wags’s purview – to see that Wyco, KCK and the Legends were poised to snatch the Chiefs.

Yep.

Originally, there were plans to build the track out near KCI and that would've been fantastic. Yet somehow WYCO ripped that jewel from our grasp, along with all the other peripheral development that came along with it, including the new soccer stadium and casino under construction.

Think about it. A state where you can't buy 5% beer in a grocery store scammed KCMO out of hundreds of millions in construction dollars and all the taxes that would have been flowing into Missouri coffers. They've got a freaking Nebraska furniture mart, for Lamars sake. Well, I'd sooner drive to the one in Omaha than spend one dollar in Kansas.

[mvscal]

Not my city team. The Chargers have been trying to get a new stadium for years and nobody wants to bite on public funding. In LA there is absolutely no chance in hell of a publicly funded stadium happening. Of course if you weren't such a worthless cunt you would have posted the rest of the report which was highly skeptical of the use of public funding in San Diego.

Needless to say, this isn't about the Chargers. This is about the dumb hick lardasses who bent over for Clar Khunt. The attempt to change the subject is just another bitch move from a worthless cunt.

Not your city team?! Fuck, you’re not even a Resident. Just die. Now. You’re a hundred fucking miles up the freeway. So who’s Bandwagon are you on this year, Loser? Way to make a stand, Asshat. That said, I could truly give a flying mvscal’s ass WHO you root for. All I know is that you regularly have your nuts neutered when jocking the Blots every-third-post on this Board. And if YOU weren’t such a flaming pile of shit, you would have actually read the rest of the report which was highly skeptical of the use of public funding in San Diego. Tough testicles, fuckstick. San Diego’s gonna pay.

Looks to me like a case of dropping to your knees, planting your face in the dirt and splaying your ass cheeks apart as fast possible. Dropping a cap in yours couldn’t happen fast enough.

Melt much, you leg humping pussy?

The Qualcomm proposal is dead, dumbfuck. The team has been looking elsewhere (Chula Vista, Oceanside, Escondido)...also without success. There just isn't any interest in public funding in Socal. A move to LA is definitely possible if Ed Roski is serious about building in CoI. It would be privately financed, of course.

Needless to say, you remain a clueless, takeless, scrote suckling douche.

[War Wagon]

Hate that Sunday's inaugural game is a soccer match, but it IS Man U...

52,000 plus for a "friendly" and the Wizards win 2-1.

Nice.

[Truman]

Not my city team. The Chargers have been trying to get a new stadium for years and nobody wants to bite on public funding. In LA there is absolutely no chance in hell of a publicly funded stadium happening. Of course if you weren't such a worthless cunt you would have posted the rest of the report which was highly skeptical of the use of public funding in San Diego.

Needless to say, this isn't about the Chargers. This is about the dumb hick lardasses who bent over for Clar Khunt. The attempt to change the subject is just another bitch move from a worthless cunt.

Not your city team?! Fuck, you’re not even a Resident. Just die. Now. You’re a hundred fucking miles up the freeway. So who’s Bandwagon are you on this year, Loser? Way to make a stand, Asshat. That said, I could truly give a flying mvscal’s ass WHO you root for. All I know is that you regularly have your nuts neutered when jocking the Blots every-third-post on this Board. And if YOU weren’t such a flaming pile of shit, you would have actually read the rest of the report which was highly skeptical of the use of public funding in San Diego. Tough testicles, fuckstick. San Diego’s gonna pay.

Looks to me like a case of dropping to your knees, planting your face in the dirt and splaying your ass cheeks apart as fast possible. Dropping a cap in yours couldn’t happen fast enough.

Melt much, you leg humping pussy?

The Qualcomm proposal is dead, dumbfuck. The team has been looking elsewhere (Chula Vista, Oceanside, Escondido)...also without success. There just isn't any interest in public funding in Socal. A move to LA is definitely possible if Ed Roski is serious about building in CoI. It would be privately financed, of course.

Needless to say, you remain a clueless, takeless, scrote suckling douche.

Meh. And YOU remain a brain-dead, dog-fucking, cum-spackled, choad-gargling, flaming pile-of-shit worthy of a Jerry Lewis telethon. A radioactive, fall-out exposed, air-bourne STD infected, earthquake-ravaged AIDS field testing lab couldn’t fall on your junky ass soon enough.

Since you bizzy yourself making up history as you go, asshat, I can see where a June, 2010 dateline might’ve thrown you for a loop. It’s gonna happen, Buttface, despite your protestations. Kill yourself.

[Truman]

52,000 plus for a "friendly" and the Wizards win 2-1.

Nice.

Indeed. Nice turnout to send Man U packing. Don't fuck with the Flyover...

[War Wagon]

Could you and Tru just STFU before you make KC look any worse?

Fat head not in control of his fat fingers says what?

Fuck off.

[mvscal]

I can see where a June, 2010 dateline might’ve thrown you for a loop. It’s gonna happen, Buttface, despite your protestations.

That is the date that the grand jury report was filed. The team has been well acquainted with the facts and findings contained in the report long before last month which is why they have been exploring other options. The findings are nonstarters from a tax leach point of view.

10-46: If public financing is to be employed for the construction of a new downtown stadium for the Chargers, demand a lease with terms that will protect the City such as a long-term lease with fixed rent sufficient to cover any public indebtedness incurred by the City or the City of San Diego Redevelopment Agency, with no credits, no risk of cost overruns and control of the use of the stadium for other City and City contracted events.

In other words, the team would be on the hook for the entire cost.

A publicly funded stadium in city of San Diego is not going to happen. The city got buttfucked in the last deal. They won't bend over for it again.

Maybe, if you bleat like a sheep, good ole Clar Khunt will hook you up with a reach around while you look at his shiny new stadium on TV.

[Truman]

[
Originally, there were plans to build the track out near KCI and that would've been fantastic. Yet somehow WYCO ripped that jewel from our grasp, along with all the other peripheral development that came along with it, including the new soccer stadium and casino under construction.

Could you and Tru just STFU before you make KC look any worse?

Well, now, here I was all content-and-junk with the title of painting KC in its worst possible light… And then you had to go and post.

If you think the Speedway / NFM build was such a "boon" for Wyco - then do two things:

1. Go Google NFM Kansas Taxes and look at the problems theyve go trying to collect the revenues
2. Look at the Wyco schools and tell me what magnificent improvements all that tax revenue they haven't collected has had.

Might wanna elucidate just exactly when the state of Kansas expected an ROI on their Build, Mr. Revisionist, as well as their plans to return the Speedway and the Legends to its rightful home in the Northland should all this shit not go exactly to plan.

What you two have conveniently neglected to mention is it was it was all give away by the state and county.
Would have been the same had the Chiefs moved out there as well - Kansass finally paying their share for a team they've mooched 44 years.

Well, Jesus-on-a-Ferris-wheel, Marcuscott, no fucking shit. What YOU conveniently neglected in your rant is the ROI that our major-league sports franchises have on our town. Truly mind-bending that you would be content to pay the freight in the form of new taxes for higher energy costs under Federal Cap and Trade in the name of junk science, as well as subsidize an Unwritten Right in the name of Federal Healthcare Reform, yet scream like a little girl at the thought of an existing 3/8th cent sales tax extended to fund a Local community asset. If you are truly this bent on seeing your tax dollars subsidize the town’s franchises, then I would suggest that you seriously consider pulling up stakes and heading for Des Moines or Omaha. You won’t have to worry about nettlesome major league sports franchises subjugating your tax dollars there, and you will still be able to catch the home teams on TV that we poor slobs have elected to support.

As for the Royals moving to OKC or Charlotte - was tat the first two cities you just pulled out of the hat?
It's almost as stupid as idiots who thought Glass would move them to Little Rock.

But not quite as stupid as those idiots who thought the Royals would be content to stand pat after a “no” vote from the People on renovation.

Nice job of Drinking the Kool aid fools

Even better job of kicking your own ass. What the fuck happened to you, Scott?

[Truman]

I can see where a June, 2010 dateline might’ve thrown you for a loop. It’s gonna happen, Buttface, despite your protestations.

That is the date that the grand jury report was filed. The team has been well acquainted with the facts and findings contained in the report long before last month which is why they have been exploring other options. The findings are nonstarters from a tax leach point of view.

10-46: If public financing is to be employed for the construction of a new downtown stadium for the Chargers, demand a lease with terms that will protect the City such as a long-term lease with fixed rent sufficient to cover any public indebtedness incurred by the City or the City of San Diego Redevelopment Agency, with no credits, no risk of cost overruns and control of the use of the stadium for other City and City contracted events.

In other words, the team would be on the hook for the entire cost.

A publicly funded stadium in city of San Diego is not going to happen. The city got buttfucked in the last deal. They won't bend over for it again.

Maybe, if you bleat like a sheep, good ole Clar Khunt will hook you up with a reach around while you look at his shiny new stadium on TV.

...all of which merely shifts the goal posts and does nothing to dispute the FACT that a whole buncha someones not named Alex or Dean Spanos is gonna be on the hook to build the Blots a shiny, brand-new crib. You're not very good at this, Mission Viejo, Southern CALifornia...

[War Wagon]

What the fuck happened to you, Scott?

[mvscal]

...all of which merely shifts the goal posts and does nothing to dispute the FACT that a whole buncha someones not named Alex or Dean Spanos is gonna be on the hook to build the Blots a shiny, brand-new crib.

What part of no public funds will be used to build the Chargers a stadium in San Diego or LA are you struggling to comprehend? Just because you were dumb enough to believe Clar Khunt when he told you it was just raining after blowing his load on your face, it doesn't mean that people elsewhere in the nation are equally stupid.

The only thing you might be nearly right on is that somebody not named Alex or Dean Spanos will be on the hook. They very well might end up selling the team if they can't find a tax base they can ripoff for a new stadium.

[War Wagon]

btw Tru, I'll be making the short jaunt up I-29 to catch some of the training camp festivities this year. Been awhile since they were at William Jewell but it looks like St. Joe is rolling out the red carpet.

[Truman]

...all of which merely shifts the goal posts and does nothing to dispute the FACT that a whole buncha someones not named Alex or Dean Spanos is gonna be on the hook to build the Blots a shiny, brand-new crib.

What part of no public funds will be used to build the Chargers a stadium in San Diego or LA are you struggling to comprehend? Just because you were dumb enough to believe Clar Khunt when he told you it was just raining after blowing his load on your face, it doesn't mean that people elsewhere in the nation are equally stupid.

The only thing you might be nearly right on is that somebody not named Alex or Dean Spanos will be on the hook. They very well might end up selling the team if they can't find a tax base they can ripoff for a new stadium.

Why is it that every time you stretch your sphincter to speak, a cock drops out? If you think for 10 seconds that the Spanos will be content to watch the Murph’s girders rust while a parade of Super Bowls are awarded to New Orleans, Miami, Dallas, and Phoenix, then you truly are dumber than a box of hair....

[Truman]

btw Tru, I'll be making the short jaunt up I-29 to catch some of the training camp festivities this year. Been awhile since they were at William Jewell but it looks like St. Joe is rolling out the red carpet.

Good for you, Wags! Planning on taking li'l Tru (BIG Tru) up to his first camp experience as well. Nice to have the team training again within reach.

[mvscal]

If you think for 10 seconds that the Spanos will be content to watch the Murph’s girders rust while a parade of Super Bowls are awarded to New Orleans, Miami, Dallas, and Phoenix, then you truly are dumber than a box of hair....

What is this even supposed to mean? Of course he wants a new stadium, he just wants somebody else to pay for it. His contentment or lack thereof is not going to get him any public funding for a new stadium, tard.

If he wants a new stadium in San Diego, he's going to have to finance it himself.

[Kansas City Kid]

The New Arrowhead is looking fresh and the Chiefs will lay a beatdown on the Bolts on MNF on 9/13!

Unite, DOTRF!!!!

[War Wagon]

tha fuck? First Rnarn and now Kaley. What's going on here?

Just got back from St. Joe watching the am practice amidst a sea of RED. D. Bowe made some nice catches and then got chewed out by Haley for not hustling back to the line. Fucking hot dog. Watch out for Dexter McCluster, the kid was catching everything thrown his way. Chambers had best have a good camp, or #22 might take his starting WR job right out the gate.

Weis was out there hobbling with a cane, hollering at anyone and everyone, it seemed, just out of general principle. Brian Waters had his fat out of shape cheeseburger ass on the sidelines working out alone, I guess he must not have passed the physical yet.

[War Wagon]

McCluster will be a slot receiver and H-Back - He's too small to take WR 2 position

Perhaps, but the kid has some skills and works hard. He'll be on the field more often than not. Kick returner, maybe. Nice draft pick they got there and he will push the vets for playing time.