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Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:53 pm

ESPNUT?

By Ralph K.M. Haurwitz | Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 09:38 AM

The University of Texas has struck a 20-year, $300 million deal with ESPN for a new, 24-hour network that will broadcast Longhorn sports and some non-athletic content such as campus musical performances.

UT President William Powers Jr. said the agreement, which also involves IMG College, a company that handles marketing and licensing for the university, will create 50 to 100 network jobs based at Royal-Memorial Stadium, fund some academic initiatives and further cement the university’s sports brand, already one of the most lucrative in the nation.

“We see this as a very important part of sort of continuing to reinvent the models through which we do business,” Powers said. “This is reflective of being much more creative in how public higher education positions itself as we go forward, even aside from the athletics.”

The announcement of a new income stream for UT comes as state lawmakers begin to debate a draft budget bill that would impose deep cuts on funding for higher education.

Officials said ESPN has guaranteed the $300 million, with 82.5 percent, or $247.5 million, earmarked for the university. IMG is assured 17.5 percent, or $52.5 mlllion.

Although UT’s share works out to $12.4 million a year on average, payments will fluctuate somewhat. Powers said UT is assured about $10 million a year for the first five years or so. Depending on the network’s profits, UT and IMG could realize additional income.

The agreement is not a surprise. The UT System Board of Regents gave Powers permission on Nov. 11 to negotiate a contract with a broadcast partner, and ESPN was considered the front-runner. An ESPN executive told the American-Statesman on Jan. 9 that his company and UT were “very close” to concluding negotiations.

The agreement does not replace existing contracts involving ESPN-ABC and Fox for sports content of the Big 12 Conference, of which UT is a member. Powers said he anticipates that the new network would carry one or two football games, a larger but unspecified number of men’s basketball games and a variety of other men’s and women’s sports, including volleyball and swimming.

Non-athletic fare is likely to run for about three hours a day and include musical performances, plays, and documentaries by faculty members and students, Powers said. Details are yet to be worked out.

“This will be high-level, entertaining cultural, music, scientific, Discovery Channel, History Channel kind of stuff,” Powers said. “And we have a team put together working on it, and that will be done in collaboration with ESPN.”

UT stands to receive a $14 million to $15 million share of Big 12 Conference broadcast revenue during the current academic year. With the departure of the University of Nebraska and the University of Colorado from the Big 12, Powers has estimated that his school’s slice of the Big 12 pie would rise to about $20 million.

If the new network, which is scheduled to begin rolling in the fall, brings in just the guaranteed $10 million or so in the first year or so of the contract, the university’s total annual broadcast revenue would rise into the $30 million range.

Powers said half, or about $5 million a year, of the first five years’ guaranteed income from the new deal is earmarked for academic initiatives. The other half will go to athletics.

After five years, academics could receive a larger or smaller share, depending on the revenues, the economic climate and the judgments of the university leaders in place at that time, he said.

In the near term, academic uses of the revenue will include creation of two faculty chairs, each with a $1 million endowment - one in physics and one in philosophy. The UT president said he would work with faculty members and deans on other uses for faculty support, “and not just have it pay the light bills.”

Powers said the role of IMG, the university’s media licensing partner, will be substantial, with ongoing marketing duties. Those duties will include selling advertising for the network, said Don Hale, a spokesman for UT.

The agreement covers distribution of sports and non-sports programming through a variety of platforms, including cable TV, satellites and smart phones. Powers said he anticipates that the network would be included among some of the basic cable system channels in Texas and Oklahoma, and perhaps in parts of Louisiana. Elsewhere in the country, it’s likely to be offered as a premium, perhaps part of a sports package or as a stand-alone channel, he said.

ESPN will pay for all production costs and for construction of a studio in the north end zone complex at the stadium, he said. The plan, details of which remain to be worked out, is to create a studio with glass walls visible to passers-by.

“I think that would be exciting for the fans,” Powers said.

The studio will create internship opportunities for communications majors and other students, he said. Powers does not anticipate the creation of any new UT jobs as a result of the venture. The 50 to 100 employees based at the stadium studio will be employed by the partnership or ESPN and will work exclusively on the Longhorn network, he said.

The UT president acknowledged that the partnership with ESPN could raise questions about whether the university would favor the company when it comes to issuing news announcements concerning sports and related matters. He pledged to be fair.

“We’re partners with ESPN, no doubt,” Powers said. “We have not run into any problems during all of these negotiations with any pressure from ESPN News - ‘tell us first,’ or whatever. We’ll have to work to have an even playing field on the news side, and will.”

So how long before 10 other programs have a similar deal in place?

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:50 pm

Left Seater wrote:
So how long before 10 other programs have a similar deal in place?

Oklahoma already has a deal in principle in place for the same sort of network with Fox and Cox Communications jointly.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:58 pm

9 more to go.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:16 am

Sweet. Now another team's crank that ESPN can suck, along with the 12 SEC teams.

TheJON · Post by **TheJON** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:55 am

College football isn't even a sport anymore. At least the NFL, MLB, etc...... they might whore themselves out to make a buck, but their sports are still actual sports. CFB is pretty much a joke anymore. The bottom line is big in the other sports too, but they haven't completely sacrificed the integrity of the sport in doing so.

Just pay the fucking players already. I'm sick and fucking tired of this BS. They're not student-athletes. They're slaves of the athletic departments. There's no integrity in this sport anymore. It's a shame. The bowl games are a joke, the BCS is a fraud, there's no such thing as a national champion, the OOC season is unwatchable except for games my team is involved in, and everyone is gaining financially big-time except for the people that allow these greedy bastards to gain financially - the players.

You have a great conference like the Big-12 that now just allows Texas to run the show. I'm sorry, but there's something VERY wrong with that.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:55 am

Typical Jonsense.

They players are not hostages, nor are the players being taken advantage of.

Tell me, when exactly did you sign your letter of intent or renew your athletic scholarship?

Those of us who did knew exactly what we were signing up for. No one held any one of us hostage. If we wanted to get paid we could have skipped college and gone to work.

H4ever · Post by **H4ever** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:58 am

TheJON wrote:College football isn't even a sport anymore. At least the NFL, MLB, etc...... they might whore themselves out to make a buck, but their sports are still actual sports. CFB is pretty much a joke anymore. The bottom line is big in the other sports too, but they haven't completely sacrificed the integrity of the sport in doing so.

Just pay the fucking players already. I'm sick and fucking tired of this BS. They're not student-athletes. They're slaves of the athletic departments. There's no integrity in this sport anymore. It's a shame. The bowl games are a joke, the BCS is a fraud, there's no such thing as a national champion, the OOC season is unwatchable except for games my team is involved in, and everyone is gaining financially big-time except for the people that allow these greedy bastards to gain financially - the players.

You have a great conference like the Big-12 that now just allows Texas to run the show. I'm sorry, but there's something VERY wrong with that.

Tejas is just laying the groundwork for their jump to independent and bail on the remainder of the 12. Be sweet, poetic justice when the NCAA steps in. (google that shit) Stay tuned.

Mace · Post by **Mace** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:07 am

Left Seater wrote:Typical Jonsense.

They players are not hostages, nor are the players being taken advantage of.

Tell me, when exactly did you sign your letter of intent or renew your athletic scholarship?

Those of us who did knew exactly what we were signing up for. No one held any one of us hostage. If we wanted to get paid we could have skipped college and gone to work.

Rack. It's an opportunity for the players to get a free college education (4-5 years) and to play the sport that they love. A small percentage of them will get a shot at pro sports but the vast majority can get a college education and pursue a career in their chosen profession. I agree that the BCS and the bowl system are jokes and, like many folks, would like to see a playoff, but that's another topic.

Q, West Coast Style · Post by **Q, West Coast Style** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:23 am

Sounds like the perfect place to work Ron Franklin back in.

Terry in Crapchester · Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:10 pm

ND has explored a similar deal with NBC in the past, but concluded that the timing wasn't right. With the Comcast/NBC merger, i would expect to see some sort of ND Network emerge in the relatively near future.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:34 pm

SunCoastSooner wrote:in principle in place

Well? Which one is it?

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:45 pm

Sudden Sam wrote:So does ESPN softball it if Texas has a recruiting scandal or some other embarrassment?

No, they will just downplay it like they did the Auburn deal since they are in bed together.

Cornhusker · Post by **Cornhusker** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:23 pm

Left Seater wrote:9 more to go.

Let's see, Texass and Okie in the fold for deals, could you maybe be so kind to list the other 9 teams?
Thanks in advance.

Terry in Crapchester · Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:24 pm

Cornhusker wrote:
Left Seater wrote:9 more to go.
Let's see, Texass and Okie in the fold for deals, could you maybe be so kind to list the other 9 teams?
Thanks in advance.

Terry in Crapchester wrote:ND has explored a similar deal with NBC in the past, but concluded that the timing wasn't right. With the Comcast/NBC merger, i would expect to see some sort of ND Network emerge in the relatively near future.

I think that cuts it down to eight. I'll leave it to others to decide who those eight will be.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:56 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:
SunCoastSooner wrote:in principle in place
Well? Which one is it?

They are ironing out details but Kenny Mossman and Joe Castiglione have said it is pretty well a done deal other than that.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:30 am

Corn,

I have no idea who the other 8 are, but I think 10 is about the limit the market can take, so I was wondering who the others might be.

OU and ND fan got it and gave status on their deals. Guess this just means that NU doesn't have anything going.

Cornhusker · Post by **Cornhusker** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:00 am

Left Seater wrote: Guess this just means that NU doesn't have anything going.

I wasn't insinuating NU would be dealing a contract for coverage as a stand alone entity.
That's a moot point now that Nebraska is part of the Big 10 network.

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan · Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:42 am

Left Seater wrote:No one held any one of us hostage. If we wanted to get paid we could have skipped college and gone to work.

Unless, of course, you wanted to work in the NFL.

Sin,
Maurice Clarett and Mike Williams

If anyone's holding the kids hostage it's the NFL and their discriminatory hiring practices.

Harvdog · Post by **Harvdog** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:00 pm

Cornhusker wrote:
Left Seater wrote: Guess this just means that NU doesn't have anything going.
I wasn't insinuating NU would be dealing a contract for coverage as a stand alone entity.
That's a moot point now that Nebraska is part of the Big 10 network.

Which is precisely why Texas went its own course. The Big 10 and the Pac 10 wanted to control all of our rights. Its like a record company owning the master tapes to a band. Once the band gets big enough, they want their own deal where they can control their cash flow and not be worried about the record company execs telling them what they have to do and how much money they get from the deal. I think it is great for the school. We now have over $30 million rolling in each year from TV.

If Colorado could get $300 million from ESPN would they take it? Yes
If Nebraska could get $200 million from FOX would they take it? Yes
If Auburn could get $200 million from CBS would they take it? Yes
If Michigan could get $200 million from NBC would they take it? Yes

People that make a big deal about Texas getting $300 million from ESPN are just jealous that they could work this deal out. Every school would take this in a heartbeat and their fans would support it.

Mace · Post by **Mace** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:12 pm

The Big 10 conference now has 12 equal partners, not 1-2 that rake in all of the good deals like in the Big XII. It's fair for all members and recognizes the importance of competitive balance.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:17 pm

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote: If anyone's holding the kids hostage it's the NFL and their discriminatory hiring practices.

How are the NFL’s hiring practices discriminatory? Each employer and every job as a minimum set of qualifications that need to be met before you can get said job. You could be the most brilliant mind in the world, but you’re not getting a job with NASA if you only have a HS degree. You could run a 3.9 40 yard dash, but you won’t get a job in the NFL until you are three years removed from high school.

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan · Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:22 pm

Killian wrote:
MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote: If anyone's holding the kids hostage it's the NFL and their discriminatory hiring practices.
How are the NFL’s hiring practices discriminatory? Each employer and every job as a minimum set of qualifications that need to be met before you can get said job. You could be the most brilliant mind in the world, but you’re not getting a job with NASA if you only have a HS degree. You could run a 3.9 40 yard dash, but you won’t get a job in the NFL until you are three years removed from high school.

NASA's qualifications are based on attaining a certain level of education which is relevant to the job. The NFL's qualifications are based solely on age, which is discriminatory. I'm no legal expert, so maybe 88 or Jsc can jump in, but I'm pretty sure age discrimination is prohibited by the EEOC.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:00 pm

Shows that will be appearing on ESPNut:
Leave it to Bevo
Shit my Mack Says
Cleve Bryant's Horny Hour
Murphy Brownteeth
A Beginners Guide; Stairways
Old Yellow Teeth.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:05 pm

The NFL is not based on age at all. The rule to apply for the draft is you have to be 3 years removed from your high school graduation. If you graduate when you're 16, you can go to the league when you're 19.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:18 pm

SunCoastSooner wrote:Shows that will be appearing on ESPNut:
Leave it to Bevo
Shit my Mack Says
Cleve Bryant's Horny Hour
Murphy Brownteeth
A Beginners Guide; Stairways
Old Yellow Teeth.

Bwaha

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:46 pm

Mace wrote:The Big 10 conference now has 12 equal partners, not 1-2 that rake in all of the good deals like in the Big XII. It's fair for all members and recognizes the importance of competitive balance.

How socialist of you guys.

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan · Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:47 am

Killian wrote:The NFL is not based on age at all. The rule to apply for the draft is you have to be 3 years removed from your high school graduation. If you graduate when you're 16, you can go to the league when you're 19.

Good point, but it's still an unfair and arbitrary criterion. If the NFL just said "you need a HS diploma to play in the NFL," that'd be fair. Likewise, if they said, "you need a college degree to play in the NFL," that'd be fair too (although it would likely decimate their talent pool). But picking an arbitrary number like 3 years is nonsensical and, I think, will eventually be overturned in court. Same thing goes for the NBA's one-and-done rule.

I get what the NFL is trying to do, and you might even be able to make a compelling argument that it's noble on some level (although I suspect it has more to do with owners not wanting to pay 18- and 19-year-old kids multimillion dollar salaries to ride the bench while they develop), but it's still inherently unfair.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:01 am

I think it has more to do with the safety of the kids than anything else. There isn't a high school player around who is physically ready for the NFL. A HS WR going over the middle againts Rey Lewis? The kid literally may die.

I don't see this being overturned anytime soon.

Mace · Post by **Mace** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:33 am

IndyFrisco wrote:
Mace wrote:The Big 10 conference now has 12 equal partners, not 1-2 that rake in all of the good deals like in the Big XII. It's fair for all members and recognizes the importance of competitive balance.
How socialist of you guys.

Socialist? Naw, it's more like equal business partners splitting the profits.

Terry in Crapchester · Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:13 am

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote:The NFL's qualifications are based solely on age, which is discriminatory. I'm no legal expert, so maybe 88 or Jsc can jump in, but I'm pretty sure age discrimination is prohibited by the EEOC.

As Killian mentioned, the NFL requirement is based on amount of time since high school graduation, which isn't restricted to age alone.

As for the age discrimination issue, the EEOC prohibits age discrimination, but only between the ages of 40 and 70. Younger than 40, or older than 70, and age discrimination is legal.

Mace wrote:The Big 10 conference now has 12 equal partners,

Sorry, Mace, gotta disagree with you on this one. Revenue sharing may be equal, but beyond that, the Big 10 hardly consists of an equal partnership. It's still tOSU and Michigan first, everyone else considerably behind that.

When the Big 10 decided to punish ND for its lack of interest in the Big 10, that consisted of Michigan exhorting Little Brother and Purdue to drop ND from their schedule, while Michigan steadfastly refused to drop ND. Even before that, the Big 10 continued to be steadfast in its "play us in September or not at all" rule as to ND, even though this rule potentially jeopardized the continuation of the Sparty and/or Purdue series with ND. Nevermind, of course, that Little Brother and Purdue probably both need the ND series more than does Michigan, or, from ND's perspective, that losing Michigan would hurt, and therefore "punish," ND moreso than would losing Little Brother or Purdue, or even both.

The Big 10 also made a serious push to add Texas, and probably will offer Texas if they ever expand again, even though, if one takes the posts of Nebraska fan at face value, the most significant motivating factor for Nebraska in joining the Big 10 was to get away from Texas. Not exactly an hospitable way to treat the newbie.

FLW Buckeye · Post by **FLW Buckeye** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:10 am

Oh, fuck.

Here we go again.

The world is blowing up tomorrow. Must be another Big Ten conspiracy.

Really am surprised TIC hasn't connected Delaney, Global warming, the JFK assassination, whether Delaney knew that there wasn't any WMDs in Iraq, and was behind the real reason behind Olbermann's sudden departure.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:31 pm

Everything Terry said was fact. The Big 10 and The Big East's threats toward ND during last year's conference shift was what drove DeLoss Dodd to call Jack Swarbrick and tell him the Big 12 would be happy to play ND in football and become a possible home for ND sports, sans football.

Mace · Post by **Mace** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:47 pm

Sorry, Mace, gotta disagree with you on this one. Revenue sharing may be equal, but beyond that, the Big 10 hardly consists of an equal partnership. It's still tOSU and Michigan first, everyone else considerably behind that.

Since we were discussing the sharing of revenue, my statement was 100% accurate. I wouldn't argue that tOSU and Michigan carry more clout and political power than any of the other members, but I don't think they control the conference. I also don't think that Texas will ever be a member of the Big 10, and would have to question why the conference would even want them because, for me, the negatives far outweigh any positives they might bring to the table.

Terry in Crapchester · Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:16 pm

FLW Buckeye wrote:Oh, fuck.

Here we go again.

The world is blowing up tomorrow. Must be another Big Ten conspiracy.

Really am surprised TIC hasn't connected Delaney, Global warming, the JFK assassination, whether Delaney knew that there wasn't any WMDs in Iraq, and was behind the real reason behind Olbermann's sudden departure.

If my avatar was bin Laden wearing a rival team's gear, I'm pretty sure I'd steer clear of saying this about another poster. Glass houses and whatsuch.

H4ever · Post by **H4ever** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:02 am

Papa Willie wrote:
Screw_Michigan wrote:
SunCoastSooner wrote:Shows that will be appearing on ESPNut:
Leave it to Bevo
Shit my Mack Says
Cleve Bryant's Horny Hour
Murphy Brownteeth
A Beginners Guide; Stairways
Old Yellow Teeth.
Bwaha
2nd.

3rd

H4ever · Post by **H4ever** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:09 am

IndyFrisco wrote:
Mace wrote:The Big 10 conference now has 12 equal partners, not 1-2 that rake in all of the good deals like in the Big XII. It's fair for all members and recognizes the importance of competitive balance.
How socialist of you guys.

There is simply no future in the B12-2 for anyone now. Texass will continue control the conference and the second things don't go their way they'll be gone. Getting an additional 10+ million for the richest program in the country is like saying Warren Buffet needs his social security checks. No one in the Big 12-2 will be able to compete with Texass on equal footing. Not a dime of the new revenue source goes anywhere except to the greedy swines in Austin. Now we'll have the insufferable ESPN shamelessly humping Bevo because they have a financial stake in them. It's simply a very bad deal for everyone in the B12-2 AND college football but Bevo.... this is what will bite Tejas in the ass... the whole of cfb will turn against Bevo. Bank on any misstep in recruiting, player conduct, insert anything here and Tejas will be brought down. It's a matter of time.

BTW... anyone really believe this deal hasn't been in the works LONG before Nebraska decided to leave for the B10?........ It was sucker play trying to back the Husker into the corner! Just another example of the total dishonestly on display from the Whorns!! I don't take care if it takes 20 years...Texas is done or at least cooked. Stick a fork in them.

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SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:52 pm

H4ever wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:
Mace wrote:The Big 10 conference now has 12 equal partners, not 1-2 that rake in all of the good deals like in the Big XII. It's fair for all members and recognizes the importance of competitive balance.
How socialist of you guys.
There is simply no future in the B12-2 for anyone now. Texass will continue control the conference and the second things don't go their way they'll be gone. Getting an additional 10+ million for the richest program in the country is like saying Warren Buffet needs his social security checks. No one in the Big 12-2 will be able to compete with Texass on equal footing. Not a dime of the new revenue source goes anywhere except to the greedy swines in Austin. Now we'll have the insufferable ESPN shamelessly humping Bevo because they have a financial stake in them. It's simply a very bad deal for everyone in the B12-2 AND college football but Bevo.... this is what will bite Tejas in the ass... the whole of cfb will turn against Bevo. Bank on any misstep in recruiting, player conduct, insert anything here and Tejas will be brought down. It's a matter of time.

BTW... anyone really believe this deal hasn't been in the works LONG before Nebraska decided to leave for the B10?........ It was sucker play trying to back the Husker into the corner! Just another example of the total dishonestly on display from the Whorns!! I don't take care if it takes 20 years...Texas is done or at least cooked. Stick a fork in them.

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Maybe you missed the part of the thread where it was mentioned that OU will be announcing a similar network with Fox Sports and Cox Communications that is rumored to be worth more than 8.5 million a year to OU.

Harvdog · Post by **Harvdog** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:49 pm

H4ever wrote:
There is simply no future in the B12-2 for anyone now. Texass will continue control the conference and the second things don't go their way they'll be gone. Getting an additional 10+ million for the richest program in the country is like saying Warren Buffet needs his social security checks. No one in the Big 12-2 will be able to compete with Texass on equal footing. Not a dime of the new revenue source goes anywhere except to the greedy swines in Austin. Now we'll have the insufferable ESPN shamelessly humping Bevo because they have a financial stake in them. It's simply a very bad deal for everyone in the B12-2 AND college football but Bevo.... this is what will bite Tejas in the ass... the whole of cfb will turn against Bevo. Bank on any misstep in recruiting, player conduct, insert anything here and Tejas will be brought down. It's a matter of time.

BTW... anyone really believe this deal hasn't been in the works LONG before Nebraska decided to leave for the B10?........ It was sucker play trying to back the Husker into the corner! Just another example of the total dishonestly on display from the Whorns!! I don't take care if it takes 20 years...Texas is done or at least cooked. Stick a fork in them.

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You don't think that if Texas had done anything dirty as a program over the last 15 years, that something would not have come out? That's is just assinine and wreaks of your sour grapes.

Funny how you bitch about revenue sharing and how the Big XII is going to die.....when the conference was formed this was an option that all schools wanted.....except Nebraska and at that time NU was the biggest earner in the conference. All the schools complied and you were happy until you realized that Texas, OU and A&M were making a ton more than NU. Then it needed to be changed. You cannot have it both ways. You make the rules and schools adapt and make a ton of money based on the rules and you bitch because you are no longer relevant? That is socialist.

Why don't you go and worry about how you are going to beat Northwestern next year and leave the Big XII to the people that matter.....those that stayed, played by the rules and owned your ass.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:17 pm

trademark of Husker fan is they can't understand that the entire world of NCAA football doesn't revolve around NU. look at all the complaining and mythic stories about them leaving the Big XII. It's ALL about Nebraska. Nebraska is the one who is innocent, pure, the victim. heck, Colorado left the XII before NU and have a much bigger media market....but that doesn't figure in NU's world-historic understanding of themselves. NU fan's problem is that their media is all about them....no contending schools, no opposite viewpoints, only NU and NU is the axis mundi perspectives. like SEC country, very little light escapes the Husker universe. as a result, they lack the ability to comprehend opposing visions of the world or objectivity (witnessed in the "we never get fair calls" mobilization of the Big Red fanbase)....which they can only phrase as "hostile" to their special place in everyone's heart.

"C'mon....tell that one about Dr. Tom's grudge against Texas or backstabbing OU and how he got the last laugh again, Uncle Phineas!"

Mace · Post by **Mace** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:49 pm

Rack KC. Judging from what I'm told by folks in western Iowa who are bombarded by the Nebraska media (tv and print), you're spot on,and, while their hatred of everything Big Red hasn't yet spread across the state of Iowa or the Big 10, it may be only a matter of time. Personally, I'll withhold judgment on the Huskers until I've had a chance to witness them for myself when I make a visit to Lincoln next fall.