Airman Wagon! PaaaRAAAAADE.....Rest

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:49 am

And show some respect for one of the most remarkable warriors in US history, "Master Sergeant" Androsky. You name it, he's done it. You name it, he's been there. He's like a Johnny Cash song.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:59 am

BAWAHAHAHA!

"USAF MSgt" Nickolas J. Androsky, showed up for a graduation ceremony at Fort Benning (Sand Hill), on Wed, 15 Jun 2011, wearing the uniform with 15 rows of awards and decorations, and 7 badges from the Army and Air Force. He was there to see his stepson graduate from training (I am unaware of type of training) and is married to a 54 year-old--Androsky is supposedly a 33-year old. Also, Androsky served in the the AF from 1999-2006, in the 41st Airlift Squadron and was discharged as an E-4. Upon arrival, Androsky reportedly complained to the unit leaders that he was disrespected by unit personnel and that is where Androsky found himself scrutinized. After questioning, the Benning MP's happily escorted him off base.

Tears Jerry. Tears.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:02 am

He was there to see his step-father graduate. His mother is the 54 year old and she married a 28 year old dude.

R-Jack · Post by **R-Jack** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:09 pm

Hate to go all fashion police in a thread about such a highly decorated soldier, but........

Guess the guy working at the arts and crafts store where this dickbag earned his medals forgot to advise him on the right footwear.

Smackie Chan · Post by **Smackie Chan** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:48 pm

For the record, his "real" fake rank indicated by the chevron is Senior Master Sergeant. Could be while he felt dissed by unit personnel.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:51 pm

Those are the stripes of an E-6 master sgt, not an E-4 staff sgt.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:53 pm

Smackie, I think a senior master sgt would have an extra stripe on top.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:02 pm

BSmack wrote: Also, Androsky served in the the AF from 1999-2006,

So, when the troops return home, you spit on them.

He obviously has undiagnosed PTSD. "RACK THE TROOPS"...until they actually need help or something.

Smackie Chan · Post by **Smackie Chan** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:04 pm

War Wagon wrote:Smackie, I think a senior master sgt would have an extra stripe on top.

You're right. Seems to me MSgt insignia had six upward stripes when I was in, and the downward stripes were reserved for Sr & Chief MSgts.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:36 pm

Martyred wrote:He obviously has undiagnosed PTSD.

He must have got it while he was imagining his service as a paratrooper.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:21 pm

BSmack wrote:
Martyred wrote:He obviously has undiagnosed PTSD.
He must have got it while he was imagining his service as a paratrooper.

You see? That's what these fucked up wars are doing to an entire generation. Fuckin' Obama... :x

Time to bring the troops (authentic or otherwise) home now.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:03 pm

which medal is the one for operating a Soviet nuclear flying submarine/tank?

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:19 pm

Cuda wrote:which medal is the one for operating a Soviet nuclear flying submarine/tank?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:30 pm

Martyred wrote:
Cuda wrote:which medal is the one for operating a Soviet nuclear flying submarine/tank?

Rack that shit.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:37 pm

War Wagon wrote:Those are the stripes of an E-6 master sgt,

MSgt is an E-7 in the Air Farce.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:48 pm

I stand corrected.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:10 pm

I like the way he has a 5 row ribbon clip at the bottom, then he has another 10 rows just sort of stacked on top.

What's wrong, audie? Couldn't find a 15 row ribbon clip at the PX?

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:18 am

Martyred wrote:
Cuda wrote:which medal is the one for operating a Soviet nuclear flying submarine/tank?

9th row down, far right.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:48 pm

just checking out dude's haircut.

jeeeebus, who's his barber? stevie wonder?

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:58 pm

Forget that total fraud...

Here's a real American soldier to admire..

Smedley Darlington Butler (July 30, 1881 – June 21, 1940), nicknamed "The Fighting Quaker" and "Old Gimlet Eye", was a Major General in the U.S. Marine Corps, and at the time of his death the most decorated Marine in U.S. history. During his 34-year career as a Marine, he participated in military actions in the Philippines, China, in Central America and the Caribbean during the Banana Wars, and France in World War I. By the end of his career he had received 16 medals, five of which were for heroism. He is one of 19 people to twice receive the Medal of Honor, one of three to be awarded both the Marine Corps Brevet Medal and the Medal of Honor, and the only person to be awarded the Brevet Medal and two Medals of Honor, all for separate actions.
In 1934 he was involved in a controversy known as the Business Plot when he told a congressional committee that a group of wealthy industrialists (including Prescott Bush) had approached him to lead a military coup to overthrow Franklin D. Roosevelt. The individuals that were involved denied the existence of a plot, and the media ridiculed the allegations. The final report of the committee stated that there was evidence that such a plot existed, but no charges were ever filed. The opinion of most historians is that while planning for a coup was not very advanced, wild schemes were discussed.

Here's an interesting quote from the general, delivered to a stunned American legion convention in 1931,

"I spent 33 years..being a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer for Capitalism...
I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown brothers in 1909-1912. I helped make Mexico--and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1916. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Cuba and Haiti a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenue in. I helped in the rape of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street..
In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested..I had a swell racket. I was rewarded with honors, medals, promotions..I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was operate a racket in three cities. The Marines operated on three continents."

Props for a man admitting the truth.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:47 pm

That may be your best post ever.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:51 pm

War Wagon wrote:That may be your best post ever.

how in the fukk did he not throw "the jews" in there? or is that the same thing as bankers?

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:21 am

LTS TRN 2 wrote:Forget that total fraud...

Here's a real American soldier to admire..

He was a Marine not a soldier and, yes, he was admirable. There certainly is a fair amount of truth in what he was saying but, in other instances, his views were so childishly naive as to be idiotic.

He claims that we entered WW1 because business and banking interests forced the government into the war in order to ensure that the Euros would be able to repay their war debt to us. He completely ignores the role that unrestricted submarine warfare by Germany played in that decision. He also makes the state into hapless pawns of big business rather than the co-conspirators we know them to be.

You also need to understand his views in the context of his service. He served at the apex of American Imperialism. No Just Wars for him but only grubby little fisticuffs with brown and yellow people in the name of Big Business. I don't blame him for his perspective.

War very often is a racket as he says. The War on Drugs and the War on Poverty are two of the biggest rackets in our history. They have consumed much more money and contributed to a far greater erosion of civil liberties in this country than the MIC could ever have dreamed of achieving.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:27 am

mvscal wrote: He also makes the state into hapless pawns of big business rather than the co-conspirators we know them to be.

That's been the "movement libertarian" line on Butler for as long as I can remember.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:55 am

Do you dispute the assertion?

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:42 am

Martyred wrote:
Cuda wrote:which medal is the one for operating a Soviet nuclear flying submarine/tank?

BWHAHAHAHA!!!! Nice work bro!

Looking at the mentally disturbed fraud in the 1st pic, it is scary that there are real people out there that pull the fake service record (save the tired Congressman LTARD).

The "National Defense Medal" 7th row center (red-yellow-red with jibberish mixed in between the colors) should tell you that every single ribbon or medal w/ribbon below that one is a joke. My bottom of the ladder medal was just that and was embarrassed that recruits were awarded that for just showing up for training. I've seen Chair Farce enlisted with 3 rows with very little time in. I don't have the time nor inclination to even check to see how many of those ribbons are out of order, if at all.

I think the one medal I truly earned was from the Coast Guard "MUC" on a coord-ops flight when I caught a major smuggler 30 NM off Cabo San Lucas as they were unloading the cargo to a really fast boat. The cutters came in and nailed them after I guided them in. The whole squadron got that medal including those that can say they've proudly served while sitting behind a desk pushing pencils. Unless you do something REALLY noteworthy, they shouldn't award medal or ribbons for any military personnel. Insignias and quals are noteworthy.

Going

here, when I sold the Russians screen doors for their submarines and ended my career, I ran into this one pompous asshole that bragged that he was a Vietnam SEAL. His step-daughter was the biggest pain in the ass along with her FAT mom that complained about me constantly. FAT bitch mom would call me up nightly it seemed and complained about anything. This was my 1st year of teaching 6th graders.

So after awhile her "husband" calls me up and tried a different angle. He knew I was ex-USN and tried to intimidate me. The other staff members told me that he claimed to be a SEAL and it's been going on for years. I asked him a simple question, "Which SEAL Team where you on?" <---exact quote. He responds, "Well uhhh." THEN I asked, "There were only two teams back then, which one were you on?" He responds: "It was a special team." I replied a "special team?"

Next day I call some of my real SEAL buddies and they asked me to ask the old-timers at a certain website where I gave this guys name, etc. The elders came back and told me that Larry H is a fraud and asked if they want me to pass this on to the bitter retired SEALS that have joy exposing fakers. I said "No" but a few did.

Unfortunately for Larry the step-dad and FAT wife of said tardlette, some of the old farts went after him. The shit parents took their shit kid out of the school after I gave them documented proof from the elders of the UDT/SEAL's and to the district administrators. BOOM!

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:30 am

mvscal wrote:Do you dispute the assertion?

What assertion? That Butler "was a Marine not a soldier'? That's gibberish right off the bat.

That his views were "childishly naive"? Coming from a right-wing radio parrot, that's rich. He's the real deal, remember? He was there.

That America waltzed into WWI because of Germany's "unrestricted submarine warfare"? That's sheer desperate flailing.

Oh, of course reeling semantic nonsense that Butler "makes the state into hapless pawns of big business rather than.." Are you totally boxed?

Look, desperate "libertarian" racist militia-type a-hole....he was completely right.

Now, continue your laborious WAKEY WAKING!!! :wink:

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:37 am

Unless I am mistaken, there are a couple of Presidential Unit citations denoted by the heavy silver frame around them that he has mixed in with personal awards. Those go on the other side of the jacket.

Sadly, I've known a few troops who suffered from award envy and did various things to correct their shortcomings, so to speak, only to be found out by their peers. Ugly when it happens.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:07 pm

Atomic Punk wrote:Next day I call some of my real SEAL buddies and they asked me to ask the old-timers at a certain website where I gave this guys name, etc.

You don't say?!?!?!

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:54 pm

War Wagon wrote:I stand corrected.

You and Screwball. Peas in a pod.

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 · Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:37 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:
Atomic Punk wrote:Next day I call some of my real SEAL buddies and they asked me to ask the old-timers at a certain website where I gave this guys name, etc.
You don't say?!?!?!

So... can you translate for me what happened in that story? It doesn't make a lick of sense. It was posted at 11:30 at night, so you know he was half in the bag...

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:43 pm

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:So... can you translate for me what happened in that story? It doesn't make a lick of sense. It was posted at 11:30 at night, so you know he was half in the bag...

Sorry, can't translate it. I kinda breezed through it. I just thought it was funny how he posted how he posted someone's personal information on a website while trying to get more personal info on the guy.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:10 pm

LTS TRN 2 wrote:
mvscal wrote:Do you dispute the assertion?
What assertion?

That was in response to Martyred.

That Butler "was a Marine not a soldier'? That's gibberish right off the bat.

It is a correction of a mistake.

That his views were "childishly naive"?

Not all but many of them, yes. He lived in a bubble and held a number of contradictory views. He decried the rise of fascism yet was an enthusiastic supporter of Prohibition and essentially placed Philadelphia under martial law during his tenure as Director of Public Safety. His view of WW1 and the reason we entered that war was, in fact, idiotic.

That America waltzed into WWI because of Germany's "unrestricted submarine warfare"? That's sheer desperate flailing.

No, it's an established fact. What should we have done? Just ignored German attacks on our merchant fleet? Are you attempting to suggest that there is no national interest in protecting American merchant shipping from attack by a foreign nation?

http://www.usmm.org/ww1merchant.html

Oh, of course reeling semantic nonsense that Butler "makes the state into hapless pawns of big business rather than.."

That is correct. Have you actually read Butler's writings or just what fellow lunatics have to say about it? He gives the state a pass and he is dead wrong. The power to regulate is the power to destroy. Business does nothing that the state doesn't want them to do. It is the state which holds all the cards not business. Business can lobby. It can cajole. It can bribe. The one thing it cannot do is dictate.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:37 am

mvscal wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote:
mvscal wrote:Do you dispute the assertion?
What assertion?
That was in response to Martyred.

No, I do not dispute the assertion. I thought that was clear.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:44 am

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:
Atomic Punk wrote:Next day I call some of my real SEAL buddies and they asked me to ask the old-timers at a certain website where I gave this guys name, etc.
You don't say?!?!?!

So... can you translate for me what happened in that story? It doesn't make a lick of sense. It was posted at 11:30 at night, so you know he was half in the bag...

I posted it at 7:42 pm on the West coast you 'roid raging, Mike Tyson voiced-moron. Of course it doesn't make sense to you nor LimpyFrisco. He was in a hurry to his "sitz bath" so he didn't have the time to read it before the bath tub water cooled down. This wasn't public as Limpy claims as his twat lips and hemorrhoids need daily treatment more than taking the time away from his important "job" of being an Admin here.

I was describing the process the old SEALS use to find frauds. They have a "Wall of Shame" for those that claim(ed) to have been "Frogs." One of my SEAL 2 buddies put me in contact with the ones that have the class rosters of every BUD/S class that has ever gone through. It was through their version of a PM. The guy that replied to me sounded just like a Jay in Phoenix as he made fun of myself, my Team 2 buddy at the same time of confirming my correct suspicions.

Cool thing after I got the confirmation there was an "Open House" where all of the parents visited the classrooms. He and his FAT wife visited and I grinned at him and nodded. He knew I got his tard ass. I let the staff know and it didn't go well for Larry and his FAT wife and step-daughter. They withdrew their shit kid after the semester ended and moved her to another school district that they actually lived in.

Does that clear it up for you two donkey dicks?

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:20 am

mvscal wrote:His view of WW1 and the reason we entered that war was, in fact, idiotic.

No, it's an established fact. national interest in protecting American merchant shipping from attack by a foreign nation?

What moronic twaddle ...read this, you wind up little puppet

http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2008 ... war-i.html

mvscal wrote: He gives the state a pass and he is dead wrong. The power to regulate is the power to destroy. Business does nothing that the state doesn't want them to do. It is the state which holds all the cards not business. Business can lobby. It can cajole. It can bribe. The one thing it cannot do is dictate.

When you say "the state," what do you think you're talking about? The federal government? Okay, fine. And do you actually pretend to pretend that "Business"--which is the Koch brothers, etc.--doesn't control the government and its legislators? Really? Even after the galling radical activist Citizens United ruling? What mealy and squirming nonsense are you trying to squeeze from your withered cheeks? Please spare us your sour gas.

Meanwhile,your attempt to smear and dismiss the greatest soldier in American history is itself a disgrace. But that's standard for the likes of you.

Butler was completely right then--and his basic message still holds today, more than ever.

WW

Jeff in SD · Post by **Jeff in SD** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:55 am

I personally enjoy the medal the guy has in regards to his service in Antarctica.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:37 pm

LTS TRN 2 wrote:
mvscal wrote:His view of WW1 and the reason we entered that war was, in fact, idiotic.

No, it's an established fact. national interest in protecting American merchant shipping from attack by a foreign nation?

What moronic twaddle ...read this, you wind up little puppet

http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2008 ... war-i.html

The Lusitania was sunk in 1915, dumbfuck. We didn't enter the war till April 1917 after Germany resumed unrestricted submarine warfare. I couldn't help but notice you failed to answer the question.

What were we supposed to do about the fact that German submarines and surface raiders were attacking our merchant shipping? Is that not an act of war demanding a response?

And do you actually pretend to pretend that "Business"--which is the Koch brothers, etc.--doesn't control the government and its legislators? Really?

Really. As I said, they're partners.

Meanwhile,your attempt to smear and dismiss the greatest soldier in American history is itself a disgrace.

Not at all. I've placed him in proper perspective. While he was a remarkable individual and a capable warrior, he is far from "the greatest soldier in American history." He doesn't crack the top ten. His MOH's are a joke especially the first one. He knew it and tried to refuse the award but was overruled. It was barely Bronze Star material. The second award didn't measure up either. It was Silver Star or Navy Cross material. The only competent and determined resistance he faced in his entire career came from his superiors.

Interesting guy and worthy of looking into for those curious about such things but ultimately a mere footnote to American history nothing more.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:38 pm

What gibberish. The idea of America being forced to enter WWI is similar to the ludicrous notion that Saddam's attacks on our drones necessitated the $3.7 TRILLION catastrophe of invading Iraq. Why are you defending the corporate interests then as well as now? Here, listen to a corporate honcho of the era explain his take on our "need' to enter the European war...

Charles M. Schwab:

The Great War was a necessity for the American economy. Manufacturers made billions of dollars. The selling of all sorts of weaponry, steel, and iron gave a huge lift to the economy. I personally sold thousands of tons of steel to the Allies. We, as the United States, were able to export much more than we imported. This is what boosted the U.S. stock market, and gave investors a reason to invest. All manufacturing companies had their company's stocks rise greatly. Without this war, the finances in our country would remain low.

As for Butler, your further attempts to denigrate his achievements are typical of your sleazy nature. At issue is his startling direct accusation of a corporate/fascist coup attempt which he was asked to help organize. This is what's important, even more than the previous decades' Imperialist agenda of the U.S.--which continued unabated.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:01 pm

Where in there does Schwab say anything about American involvement being a necessity?

He doesn't, dumbfuck.

Matter of fact, he probably would have preferred if the US didn't get involved, since that jacked income taxes to the wealthy to 77%, which would have been a higher portion of his income than he gained from the US market. It would have CLEARLY been in his better interest if the US wasn't involved.

LTS, I believe there's a relationship between your lack of reading comrehension and your complete lack of common sense.