Norway

[mvscal]

While I disagree with violence against children, and alwats will...

These kids weren't children. They were high school aged teens of the ruling socialist elites. They weren't there to learn kayaking and make macaroni sparkle pictures. They were there to receive political indoctrination and learn to be "activists." Needless to say, the world needs more socialist activists like it needs a fucking hole in its head.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

...political indoctrination...

You're sounding more like Felchco every day.

Toss in a few "wakey-wakey's" and some of these...

:wink:

...and you're a dead ringer.

Strange bedfellows, indeed.

[Dr_Phibes]

Why do you hate General Grant?

# The Jews, as a class violating every regulation of trade established by the Treasury Department and also department orders, are hereby expelled from the Department [of the Tennessee] within twenty-four hours from the receipt of this order.
# Post commanders will see to it that all of this class of people be furnished passes and required to leave, and any one returning after such notification will be arrested and held in confinement until an opportunity occurs of sending them out as prisoners, unless furnished with permit from headquarters.
# No passes will be given these people to visit headquarters for the purpose of making personal application of trade permits.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Why do you hate General Grant?

Is that who that is?

I just thought mv had a thing for Jon Voigt's character from Midnight Cowboy.

But I've always taken a "Don't ask, Don't tell" approach with him.

[mvscal]

...political indoctrination...

You're sounding more like Felchco every day.

Are you attempting to suggest that political indoctrination was not the purpose of this camp despite the photographic evidence staring you in the face?

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

I'm just waiting for you to drop a few "fake Avi" references.

Yup. Like fucking bookends.

[poptart]

mv has a point.

He does?
This brave man was a freedom fighter.



:|

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

This brave man was a freedom fighter.

Yes. He fought for the freedom to live on a planet that had 90 fewer teenagers.

Because otherwise Norway would have turned in Pol Pot's Cambodia, replete with ethanol subsidies and battered women's shelters...you know...that Marxist stuff.

[mvscal]

Do you suppose that the Norwegian Minister of Foreign Affairs just happened to pop by to help the kiddies with their macaroni and sparkle pictures?

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

WAKEY WAKEY!

:wink:

:wink:

:wink:

[poptart]

mv has a point.

He does?
This brave man was a freedom fighter.

Actually, I should correct myself slightly.

He IS a freedom fighter.


Under current Norway law, his max sentence could be 21 years - and he'll be out walkin' around again.

We haven't talked about that yet, have we?


Discuss.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Under current Norway law, his max sentence could be 21 years - and he'll be out walkin' around again.

We haven't talked about that yet, have we?


Discuss.

Ironically, if Norway was the "conservative utopia" this numbnuts wanted, he'd be getting the needle...

...but then he might not have done the shooting...

DAMN YOU POPTART AND YOUR TIME/SPACE WARPING LOGICAL CONUNDRUMS!

[mvscal]

Under current Norway law, his max sentence could be 21 years - and he'll be out walkin' around again.

We haven't talked about that yet, have we?

I was going to bring it up. Yep, he'll only be 53 when he gets out assuming he even serves a full sentence. He'll have plenty of time to further develop his philosophy and still be young enough to carry it into execution.

One can quibble with his method but there is no denying that he is dead right on all counts. Unchecked immigration is cultural suicide especially for a small nation like Norway and socialists are parasitic vermin.

So, what to do with such people and their spawn... Hmmm.

[War Wagon]

whole buncha' psychotic mofos up in this bitch.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

So, what to do with such people and their spawn... Hmmm.

[mvscal]

So, what to do with such people and their spawn... Hmmm.

Yeah, something along those lines.

[Dr_Phibes]

Under current Norway law, his max sentence could be 21 years - and he'll be out walkin' around again.

We haven't talked about that yet, have we?


Discuss.

That's not entirely true, but it's established itself as a talking point. Norway has the same provisions as Britain, it's similar to British law, it is left to the Home Secretary to decide whether a prisoner should be released or not and it is therefore a political decision. It has to be pointed out, though, that he only has this power over certain prisoners who are deemed to be especially dangerous.

He can theoretically, stay in jail in perpetuity.

[mvscal]

Norway has the same provisions as Britain, it's similar to British law, it is left to the Home Secretary to decide whether a prisoner should be released or not and it is therefore a political decision. It has to be pointed out, though, that he only has this power over certain prisoners who are deemed to be especially dangerous.

He can theoretically, stay in jail in perpetuity.

In other words, there is no rule of law in Norway. They just sorta "play it by ear." No wonder he started mowing down the assholes responsible for that clusterfuck and the little Eichmanns who will follow in their footsteps.

[Dr_Phibes]

Well...

There was some stink about it a few years back during the Venebles trial and it was tinkered with because of an EHCR ruling, due to the political nature of it all - the Home Secretaries were basically allowing their decisions to be made for them by the tabloids, which could whip up their segment of the population into a frenzy almost at will.
There was large political pressure on the Home Secretaries to follow the tabloids lead. I didn't follow it too closely at the time, so you may well be right. However, I'll guess they merely took away the political component of the power rather than abolish it entirely.

[LTS TRN 2]

Unchecked immigration is cultural suicide especially for a small nation like Norway and socialists are parasitic vermin.

So, what to do with such people and their spawn... Hmmm.

This sort of disconnected grammar is indicative of a loose train--a "runner" ...just sayin'..


So, the camp was disposed to boycott the ghastly fake apartheid state...and the fanatical racist Christer wants to methodically kill them all... Just doin' the math.

As for why it's proper to boycott the fake (international crime) state, let's hear from a moral giant of our era, Nelson Mandela (here writing to ziohack Tom Friedman of the N.Y. Times)..

Today the world, black and white, recognise that apartheid has no future. In South Africa it has been ended by our own decisive mass action in order to build peace and security. That mass campaign of defiance and other actions could only culminate in the establishment of democracy.

Perhaps it is strange for you to observe the situation in Palestine or more specifically, the structure of political and cultural relationships between Palestinians and Israelis, as an apartheid system. This is because you incorrectly think that the problem of Palestine began in 1967. This was demonstrated in your recent column "Bush's First Memo" in the New York Times on March 27, 2001.

You seem to be surprised to hear that there are still problems of 1948 to be solved, the most important component of which is the right to return of Palestinian refugees.

The Palestinian-Israeli conflict is not just an issue of military occupation and Israel is not a country that was established "normally" and happened to occupy another country in 1967. Palestinians are not struggling for a "state" but for freedom, liberation and equality, just like we were struggling for freedom in South Africa.

Israel was not thinking of a "state" but of "separation". The value of separation is measured in terms of the ability of Israel to keep the Jewish state Jewish, and not to have a Palestinian minority that could have the opportunity to become a majority at some time in the future. If this takes place, it would force Israel to either become a secular democratic or bi-national state, or to turn into a state of apartheid not only de facto, but also de jure.

As to the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza, there is an additional factor. The so-called "Palestinian autonomous areas" are bantustans. These are restricted entities within the power structure of the Israeli apartheid system.

The Palestinian state cannot be the by-product of the Jewish state, just in order to keep the Jewish purity of Israel. Israel's racial discrimination is daily life of most Palestinians. Since Israel is a Jewish state, Israeli Jews are able to accrue special rights which non-Jews cannot do. Palestinian Arabs have no place in a "Jewish" state.

Apartheid is a crime against humanity. Israel has deprived millions of Palestinians of their liberty and property. It has perpetuated a system of gross racial discrimination and inequality. It has systematically incarcerated and tortured thousands of Palestinians, contrary to the rules of international law. It has, in particular, waged a war against a civilian population, in particular children.

Thomas, I'm not abandoning Mideast diplomacy. But I'm not going to indulge you the way your supporters do. If you want peace and democracy, I will support you. If you want formal apartheid, we will not support you. If you want to support racial discrimination and ethnic cleansing, we will oppose you. When you figure out what you're about, give me a call.

WW

[poptart]

Mvscal, are you content to wear your skirt, flap some pom-poms around, and belt these interweb "sis boom bah's" out over this cowardly terror attack, or are you saying that you would/will do the same thing?

You dig what he did ---> so you'll follow suit?

Or you're just an anonymous gibbering tough-guy Nancy Boy sitting behind a keyboard?

Get in the game if you find this thing to be so great.


The guy mowed down dozens of unarmed teenagers.

When you're a teen, you don't really know much.
Mom and Dad send you to a camp and you go.

If this turd had a pair of balls, he would have confronted someone who really IS oppressing the people, not a bunch of teens sitting on an island - like 'fish in a barrel,' as you put it.

He's just like all the terrorists in the world - a coward.




You prolly need to back away and get a grip, seriously.

[Goober McTuber]

Oh wait. Fuck. I'm not very good at this.

I told you this days ago.

[mvscal]

You dig what he did ---> so you'll follow suit?

I will? That doesn't logically follow. Then again bible beaters aren't known for logic.

The guy mowed down dozens of unarmed teenagers.

I guess they should have armed themselves.

When you're a teen, you don't really know much.

Nonsense. Teenagers know everything. Just ask one.

If this turd had a pair of balls, he would have confronted someone who really IS oppressing the people, not a bunch of teens sitting on an island - like 'fish in a barrel,' as you put it.

He did. He was simply being proactive. When you dedicate your career to minding other peoples' business, somebody might object to that and just up and blow your head off. It's an occupational hazard.

He's just like all the terrorists in the world - a coward.

Cowardice doesn't have shit to do with anything. He's just like all terrorists in the world in that he has a defined political agenda. Once again, dead socialist busybodies of any age are a good thing. It should be celebrated, but you can mope and wring your hands if you want. It's a free country...sorta.

[War Wagon]

It's been reported the dude was a Christian, what evidence is there of that? Because he was anti-Muslim?

Or is it just a convenient way to smear Christians?

[Diego in Seattle]

It's been reported the dude was a Christian, what evidence is there of that? Because he was anti-Muslim?

Or is it just a convenient way to smear Christians?

Yeah, I guess he could have been a buddhist.

Dumbfuck.

[Cuda]

What brings you in here, Diego? ANY teenager is 10 years beyond your interest.

[poptart]

you can mope and wring your hands if you want.

I do neither.

I pretty much agree with Dinsdale ---> that such a thing happening is understandable, not correct.

When people think they are no longer able to be heard through the voting process, more extreme measures will be taken by some.
I would say we could expect such things in America, also, seeing as both major parties push the same general agenda - and the people are being trampled upon.


When the U.S. military places itself all over the globe, setting up bases, dropping bombs, killing innocents on soil which does not belong to it, well, you get some people motivated to get on planes and take down WTC buildings --- killing average Joe's, who's only crime was getting up and going to work.

What crime did these teens commit, again?

Yes, the same crime the average Joe's committed on 9/11.


One man's terror is another man's freedom fighting.

[War Wagon]

Yeah, I guess he could have been a buddhist.

Or an atheist. Have you seen evidence that he was a Christian?

Or do you just swallow w/o question the propaganda that's fed you by the NY Times?

[mvscal]

Yeah, I guess he could have been a buddhist.

Or an atheist. Have you seen evidence that he was a Christian?

He appears to be more of a "cultural Christian" rather than a practicing Christian.

http://hereiblog.com/was-anders-breivik ... +I+Blog%29

[mvscal]

What crime did these teens commit, again?

How is that even relevant? Obviously, he viewed them as the enemy. They were the future leaders of a multicultural, socialist Norway. These were not average kids just going about their business by any stretch of the imagination. They were being groomed for leadership.

...prime minister Jens Stoltenberg mentioned the names of several victims known to have been shot dead while at the Labour Party (AUF) youth camp.

One of them, Tore Eikeland, was "one of our most talented youth politicians," he said; a 21-year-old local councillor and the leader of Young Labour in the south-western Hordaland region. At a recent party conference, the prime minister added, Eikeland had been given a standing ovation from the entire auditorium.

...

Among those still missing yesterday was Hanne Kristine Fridtun, a 21-year-old AUF activist who had made herself known in her local town of Stryn, western Norway, for her social conscience. "I know Hanne Kristine very well. We have had a close political co-operation … so for me it is now completely unreal that she is missing," the mayor of Stryn, Nils P Støyva, told Norwegian broadcasters NRK

...

She was not the only one to be praised for her political commitments. Eighteen-year-old Tarald Mjelde, Eikeland's deputy who was last night missing presumed dead, was described on a blog by a friend and fellow youth activist as "the little boy with an enthusiasm that infects everyone around you." Erik Dale wrote: "All the people who wish they had your energy. Your eagerness. If you hadn't been such a great little politician, I am sure you could have been an athlete."

...

One of the youngest feared dead has been named as Johannes Buø, a 14-year-old AUP activist from southern Norway

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/ju ... -saved-son

Well, they aren't so active anymore.

[poptart]

How is that even relevant? Obviously, he viewed them as the enemy. They were the future leaders of a multicultural, socialist Norway. These were not average kids just going about their business by any stretch of the imagination. They were being groomed for leadership.

And the fat, rich U.S. pigs sitting in the WTC on 9/11 were paying their taxes to (supporting) an Imperialitic government which unwelcomely imposes it's will in Arab (and other) lands around the globe - and profits greatly in the process.

Face it, you are cheering the slaughter of teenagers who are gulity of no crime other than that they probably have a world view which differs from yours.

This terrorist might rightfully have anger toward what is going on in his land, and I can understand it, but mowing down teen kids out on an island is an act which will gain no sympathy for his cause - except with the truly twisted among us.

Pack up your guns and go to your local Starbucks.
Start mowing down the latte lefties if you want to become something other than a pitiful internet cheerleader for a sicko freak.

Get in the game, champ.

[mvscal]

How is that even relevant? Obviously, he viewed them as the enemy. They were the future leaders of a multicultural, socialist Norway. These were not average kids just going about their business by any stretch of the imagination. They were being groomed for leadership.

And the fat, rich U.S. pigs sitting in the WTC on 9/11 were paying their taxes to (supporting) an Imperialitic government which unwelcomely imposes it's will in Arab (and other) lands around the globe - and profits greatly in the process.

It isn't even close to the same thing. This guy killed policy makers and activists not schlubs punching a clock. Islamists view us all their enemies. I get that. I also don't get wound up by "guilt or innocence." It is a meaningless distinction. It is our duty to protect our "innocents" not the Islamists duty to refrain from attacking them.

Face it, you are cheering the slaughter of teenagers who are gulity of no crime other than that they probably have a world view which differs from yours.

Face it? Have I denied it? It sounds like a pretty damn good reason to cheer to me. I would have cheered if we bombed a Hitler Youth camp in WW2 (and we probably did). Don't expect me to ever apologize for cheering the deaths of people with toxic world views.

This terrorist might rightfully have anger toward what is going on in his land, and I can understand it, but mowing down teen kids out on an island is an act which will gain no sympathy for his cause -

Was that his goal? Gain sympathy? I don't think he's looking for sympathy from socialists. He just wants them dead. And who can blame him?

[poptart]

Well if this is so right and necessary, then why aren't you doing it?

Can't you see the state of your own government, and how you're being dicked?

And who can blame him?

Then get after it.

No right thinking person will blame you - and fuck the rest, anyway.


~ meow



Just a silly little poser.

[mvscal]

As opposed to a whimpering little hand wringer?

[Dr_Phibes]

I think his goal was to kill the future leaders of Norway, which is silly. Norway will always have leaders, people aren't exactly rallying around that whole Knights Templar thing.
I'd file this under your complex, 'we've just got to just keep killing more Muslims' strategy of 2005.

Every time some weirdo kills someone and pops a boner, you think it's a 'revolutionary situation'. It's fucking Norway.

[mvscal]

Norway will always have leaders,

But will they be as effective as the young go getters who just bought the farm? Killing Al Qaeda's leaders has dramatically diminshed their effectiveness.

Every time some weirdo kills someone and pops a boner, you think it's a 'revolutionary situation'.

It was a revolutionary act.

It's fucking Norway.

Exactly. If things are starting to bubble amongst the normally placid, bovine Scandinavians, then what of the more volatile regions of Europe? How long will Germans tolerate supporting failed states in southern Europe? How long will British nationalists tolerate Muslim wogs and their attendant filth?

If you can't see that the Western world is building to a violent crescendo, you aren't paying attention.

[Dr_Phibes]

It was a revolutionary act.

Yes, an act, not a situation. It's isolated unto itself, cause and no effect, it exists in a bubble, it has no meaningful purpose and no result other than personal tragedy and gawkers staring a train wreck. There's nothing to learn there and nothing to read into, you're wasting your time.
Gobbledygook from an internet obsessed moron is sometimes just that, no need to build a grand narrative around it.

[indyfrisco]

Gobbledygook

[poptart]

http://news.yahoo.com/norway-mass-kille ... 15957.html


Breivik's lawyer says he's likely insane.

Ya think?

[mvscal]

Breivik's lawyer says he's likely insane.

Ya think?

I think it's abundantly clear to anyone who isn't running around in circles flapping his pussy lips that atrocities have been committed by perfectly sane men throughout recorded history. Your precious Bible is chock full of them.

33And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people.

34And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain

--Deuteronomy 2:33-34

6And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city.

--Deuteronomy 3:6