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Maybe it's all due to that "certainty" thing.

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Amazon to alter the way it does business in California
The world's largest online retailer plans to spend $500 million to open large distribution centers and other facilities now that Gov. Jerry Brown has signed a sales tax law.By Marc Lifsher and Andrea Chang, Los Angeles Times

5:38 PM PDT, September 23, 2011

Reporting from Sacramento and Los Angeles

Amazon.com Inc. will change the way it does business, at least in California, now that Gov. Jerry Brown has signed into law a bill that requires the giant Internet retailer and certain out-of-state online merchants to collect sales taxes on purchases by Californians.

Starting next Sept. 15, Amazon and many other Internet retailers will lose their ability to offer essentially a savings to customers by skipping the levy of 7.25% or more, which bricks-and-mortar stores and other merchants must collect.

Brown signed the measure Friday at the San Francisco headquarters of Gap Inc., a clothing manufacturer that backed the legislation. The new law supplants a similar one that Amazon had been challenging since it took effect July 1.

Abandoning its fight to avoid collecting sales taxes, Amazon now seeks to build what Paul Misener, a company vice president, called "a lasting partnership with the state."

The Seattle company, he said, plans to spend $500 million to open large distribution centers and other facilities in California that would create 10,000 full-time jobs — ones that carry such benefits as health insurance.

The new law was hammered out in a compromise among lawmakers, the retail industry and online merchants, mainly Amazon and auction house EBay Inc.

The compromise, Brown said, showed that bipartisan efforts to boost jobs and the economy are possible to achieve and that "a prolonged, costly ballot battle is a benefit to no one."

With the tax fight behind it, Amazon must come up with new ways to ensure that its customers keep clicking "add to cart" to buy tens of thousands of items as varied as books, plumbing supplies and furniture.

One idea, marketing experts suggested, might be to use the expanded distribution network to get merchandise to customers in just a few hours instead of days.

"They will be forced to innovate," said Anthony Dukes, a USC marketing professor. Under the Internet sales tax law, he said, Amazon will have to work harder to attract shoppers, "which could be good for all of us."

In California, a state that analysts say accounts for about 15% of Amazon's U.S. sales, the deals offered by the world's largest online retailer won't seem quite as attractive as they have been since Amazon opened 17 years ago. But the company still would be competitive, analysts said.

For many products, Amazon charges 5% to 6% less than the prices of the same goods in stores or on other websites, even when sales tax is added, according to a July 21 study by Chicago investment firm William Blair & Co.

Amazon would not discuss possible changes in its business model other than opening new distribution centers in California. Spokeswoman Mary Osako said the company was "obsessed with our customers."

In fighting the previous law, Amazon avoided any contacts with the state, such as having offices, employees and contract workers in California. It even severed ties with some 10,000 affiliated websites in California in June.

Under a 1992 U.S. Supreme Court decision, companies based elsewhere that have no contact with the state don't have to collect sales taxes from customers in the state.

But as Amazon has grown, it also has been looking at how it does business, analysts said.

"Amazon can offer a fuller array of services like same-day delivery and Amazon Fresh, which is its grocery delivery," said Jordan Rohan, an Internet analyst at investment bank Stifel, Nicolaus & Co. "Amazon could certainly expand services if it had local distribution."

Rohan said the company could become more than a retailer; it could become "the ultimate in fast, logistical excellence."

To do that, Amazon would need to add fleets of trucks and distribution centers in every metropolitan area of California and throughout the country, he said.

Amazon also pledged Friday to restore its relationships with its former California affiliates, which earned commissions for referring customers to Amazon through links on their sites.

Its new strategy "might sacrifice [a higher profit] margin and short-term profits to secure a very strong position in California," said Randy Bucklin, a professor specializing in Internet marketing at the Anderson School of Management at UCLA.

Amazon could compete through efficiency, brand acceptability and customer service, just as Wal-Mart Stores Inc., Best Buy Corp., Target Corp. and other bricks-and-mortar stores do, Bucklin said.

The creation of facilities and new jobs would help Amazon rebuild an image marred by the political war with California competitors, the governor, the Legislature and growing popular sentiment that Amazon shouldn't be treated any differently from bricks-and-mortar retailers that have to collect sales taxes.

Rohan said customers in time would get used to paying sales taxes.

"I live in New York and my Amazon ordering patterns don't change one iota due to the sales tax that I pay," he said. "Maybe if I were buying a $1,000 television, but for the daily items that I buy, the sales tax doesn't make that much of a difference. This could be much ado about very little."

That's the experience of Amazon rival O.Co, also known as Overstock.com. It has collected sales taxes in a few states where it has offices or distribution centers, and has found that this affects sales only slightly.

"People are not price-sensitive to paying tax in the same way they are to normal price increases," Chief Executive Patrick Byrne said. Unlike Amazon, O.Co still has no connections to California and no plans to collect taxes here, he said.

Amazon had been battling legislation similar to California's in more than a dozen states. The company said it would prefer a national law governing online sales tax collection over a patchwork of state schemes, and has joined conventional bricks-and-mortar retailers to lobby Congress.

Amazon's agreement with the state could spur Congress to act, said Bill Dombrowski, president of the California Retailers Assn., which led the push for California's law. "It's really stirred things up."

Nevertheless, "a lot of questions remain unanswered" about how a federal law would work, said Ben Schachter, an analyst with Macquarie Group.

"There will have to be a lot of compromises and issues worked out before this is enacted," he said. "And there's no guarantee there will be."
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they might as well. California is one of the few states that chases online vendors for tax revenue.
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Bizzarofelice wrote:they might as well. California is one of the few states that chases online vendors for tax revenue.
They don't now, but they will starting next September.
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Bizzarofelice wrote:they might as well. California is one of the few states that chases online vendors for tax revenue.
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KC Scott wrote:That was why AMZN agreed to build the DC - for Cali to put off sales tax collection a year
They aren't going to spend $500 million and add 10,000 to payroll just to get out of paying sales tax for a year. I'd like to know what else is in that bill.

I'm just waiting for Gov. Brownstain to restart offshore oil and NG production since we need jobs and all.
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That math doesn't work.
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not math....just stupidity
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The stupidity doesn't work?
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Mikey wrote:The stupidity doesn't work?
Try honesty. The intellectually honest thread title would have been "Offer tax breaks...Create Jobs."
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didn't have time for a diatribe regarding this fucked up administration. Can you say "third world America". Sure, I knew you could. :pickle: :pickle: :pickle: :pickle: :pickle: :pickle: :pickle:
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