Am I becoming l....li...lib...l...

[bradhusker]

Liberal...??

Uh, so, I don't really care if you are lesbian or gay. As a matter of fact, you could be a very good person and be gay. Or you could be a pedofile, conservative, white male and I hate you. No, I don't feel like "I'm not there yet." I am still for you to get off your ass an not depend on the government to take care of you.

As healthy people grow older, they go from being liberal to conservative. This is normal. HOWEVER, there are very creepy sick fucks who become more liberal as they age. Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dorn, Phil Donahue, Bill Mahr, and now Trev.

It concerns me that you are not aging in a healthy normal fashion. Dennis Prager is an author and a brilliant mind that you need to become aquainted with, and fast.

When you start to read about this great man, and his philopophy on life, you will indeed see just how sick creepy and weird the liberal mind really is.

Read his books, you will thank me greatly, I promise.

[mvscal]

Regarding public policy, we should be as concerned about what the Bible says the same amount we are concerned what the Koran says, or the Bhagavad Gita, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or Dianetics by L. Ron Hubbard says: not at all.

Senator Raskin understands this.

Both you and Raskin are dumb as fuck. There is nothing in this world as stupid as a lawyer who doesn't have the faintest idea of what Law is. Every single law on the books is nothing more and nothing less than legislated morality. There is no law without morality and there is no morality without long standing social mores.

Historically, our laws have been founded on Judeo-Christian teachings and traditions. What would you replace that with? The deluded rantings of pedophile faggots like Dan Savage? Those are the individuals you look to in order to inform public policy?

Yes, you remain a sad, stupid hack.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Historically, our laws have been founded on Judeo-Christian teachings and traditions. What would you replace that with?

Aristotle and Hegel.

That's my short list.

[mvscal]

Smackaholic's Navy - rum, buggery and the lash.

That's a bit of an outdated notion.
It'll probably be guys like mv running across a battlefield in cut-off jean shorts and shirtless, squirting their "enemies" with super-soakers filled with banana daquiris.

:o

You're thinking of the Royal Marines.

Marines under fire for ritual beatings film

· Naked fighting a bit of fun that got out of hand - MoD

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/nov/2 ... tionpolicy

Colonel Bob Stewart said he was "horrified". "This is nothing to do with training. If it was some kind of party, the fun ended pretty quickly. Why are they naked for goodness sake?"

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Cruel Britannia.

[mvscal]

It is hard to understand. I really don't think being gay increases your chance of being a child predator.

You are completely wrong. Homos commit roughly 33% of all sex crimes against children despite being less than five percent of the population.

[smackaholic]

there's a pretty fair chance I'll be eyeballing you little girl. Being a non POS, I won't act on it, but, still, it will be best for all involved if you just have mrs smack do it.

Are you outting yourself as a good pedophile?

sorta, i 'spose.

more like heterosexual. have you seen some of the 15 year olds walking around?

[jiminphilly]

there's a pretty fair chance I'll be eyeballing you little girl. Being a non POS, I won't act on it, but, still, it will be best for all involved if you just have mrs smack do it.

Are you outting yourself as a good pedophile?

sorta, i 'spose.

more like heterosexual. have you seen some of the 15 year olds walking around?

Do you have a daughter?

[Bizzarofelice]

Not sure how "radically religious" became confused with "conservative," since the "religious right" is an EXTREMELY liberal sect.

still laughing. Goldwater is dead. Has been since Reagan hopped in bed with the religious freaks. The "conservatives" have embraced those religious freaks and absorbed their principles. Those principles do not include doing whatever you want in your own home.


Maybe you need to rethink your "affiliation" because you don't share their ideas.

[mvscal]

Bullshit. Link?

Boys are ~25%-33% of sexual assault victims and perps are well over 95% male so do the math, cupcake. Faggots and dykes are far more likely to be child sex offenders than normal people.

Deal with it.

[Bizzarofelice]

Deal with it.

wow. mvscal is so in your face.

[smackaholic]

Do you have a daughter?

yup. 20 year old.

what of it?

[jiminphilly]

Do you have a daughter?

yup. 20 year old.

what of it?

Besides coming across as a pedo, as a father you might want to consider that your daughter was 15 once and how would you feel if a guy your age was having nut-busting thoughts about her?

[poptart]

Believers in Christ are not bound by the laws given in the Old Testament. duh

The recognition begins early in Genesis

Which is it? Do you ignore the bullshit in the Old Testament, or do you continue to cite it when you think it supports the point you're trying to make?

Which is it? Huh?

pssst...
Old Testament Law was not given in Genesis.

You and Savage can make your case for homosexuality if you want to, but trying to use the Bible in any way is a huge FAIL for you both, obviously.

Do you even actually read the book you cite? Do you think it says that marriage is limited to one man and one woman like so many of today's Republicans claim? If so, then keep reading and keep thinking.

There is NO Scripture showing homosexuality to be desirable.
ZERO.

And quite the opposite is true, throughout the Bible.
Overwhelmingly showing it to be a pretty significant error and problem.

Biblically, one man + one woman is God's wish.
There is no doubt about this.
God showed it to us in Genesis (before our fall) and on to what was given to us after Christ's time on earth.
Anyone disputing it is simply disingenous.

It was only after the event of Genesis 3, when man went off the rails, that deviations occurred, and God continued to work through man, despite our nature, errors, and inappropriate standards (including relationship weirdness), to push through his redemptive plan to the point of Jesus Christ's arrival.

[War Wagon]

churchladyinphilly

thoughts are harmless, it's actions that get you in trouble.

and if you try to tell me that you've never lusted after an underage chick, I'll call you a liar or a fag or both

[poptart]

Both you and Raskin are dumb as fuck. There is nothing in this world as stupid as a lawyer who doesn't have the faintest idea of what Law is. Every single law on the books is nothing more and nothing less than legislated morality. There is no law without morality and there is no morality without long standing social mores.

Exactly.

I get a kick out of people saying it's not right for legislators to have their decision-making influenced by the Bible.
Dumbasses, they are.

ALL law is based on someone's version of morality, and Christian legislators obviously have every right to base their decisions on sensibilities coming from what they see in God's Word.

[Diego in Seattle]

So Smackaholic & mvscunt don't want gay boy scout leaders, but would rather have the boys led by hetero leaders like Josh or Steve Powell. Got it.

[Diego in Seattle]

Bullshit. Link?

Boys are ~25%-33% of sexual assault victims and perps are well over 95% male so do the math, cupcake. Faggots and dykes are far more likely to be child sex offenders than normal people.

Deal with it.

97.4% of all stats are made up.

Having trouble understanding the word "link," slappy?

[trev]

It is hard to understand. I really don't think being gay increases your chance of being a child predator.

You are completely wrong. Homos commit roughly 33% of all sex crimes against children despite being less than five percent of the population.

I don't know the stats. But, many sex crimes are commited by hetero men. If they go after a boy, it doesn't make them gay, it makes them very messed up. Am I right?

[jiminphilly]

churchladyinphilly

thoughts are harmless, it's actions that get you in trouble.

and if you try to tell me that you've never lusted after an underage chick, I'll call you a liar or a fag or both

Seeing has how I have a young daughter, I've sorta been in protection mode since she was born so I haven't taken the time to check out the demographic that shops at Justice these days. Every once in a while I hang out in a college town and have no problem having lustful thoughts at the 22 year old sluts that walk half-naked through the town.

And if you're admitting to checking out underage chicks, at what age is your cut-off? 12? 8? You and Smackie are pretty much on par with Diego at this point.

[War Wagon]

And if you're admitting to checking out underage chicks, at what age is your cut-off? 12? 8?

Well of course I confront them first and demand to see some ID before deciding if they're a hot enough piece of ass to lust after.

Jeezus fucking christ, what a stupid question... what do you want me to say, puberty?

Don't be an idiot and don't presume to preach morals to me. I have a daughter, too.

[poptart]

I don't know the stats. But, many sex crimes are commited by hetero men. If they go after a boy, it doesn't make them gay, it makes them very messed up.

Messed up.
Would anyone of us doubt that part?


Let's see, a person commits a homosexual act... but they aren't homosexual?

Sounds goofy at first read, but I gotta say, that's RIGHT, trev.

There are no "homosexuals," but just "messed up people" who engage in homosexual activities.

yw



:wink:

[Bizzarofelice]

ALL law is based on someone's version of morality, and Christian legislators obviously have every right to base their decisions on sensibilities coming from what they see in God's Word.

weirdo cult freaks

[jiminphilly]

what do you want me to say...?

... I have a daughter, too.

That's a start. Just so I understand, you have no problem with the notion that when your daughter was 14, 15 years old, you thought it perfectly acceptable for middle-aged men to be having lustful thoughts about her.

[War Wagon]

weirdo cult freaks

Hey!

You and I Bace, we shall save this thread from church ladys in philly, san diego and Korea... and a preemptive fuck off to Screwy if he drops by, just for good measure.

[trev]

Oddly enough, poptart, some men are attracted to women and children. Does that make them homo?

[mvscal]

If they go after a boy, it doesn't make them gay...

As a point of fact, that is exactly what it makes them...by definition.

If you are male and you get off by jamming your hog in another male's mouth and/or anus, you are a fucking faggot. Age doesn't enter into it. If you get off by shoving your rude stick into a young boy's anus, you are a pedophile faggot.

I hope this helps. Isn't that right, diego?

[poptart]

Oddly enough, poptart, some men are attracted to women and children. Does that make them homo?

What I think, trev, is that these are just words that we use.
Labels.

Homosexual, heterosexual, bisexual, pedophile... etc.


What we have are people who engage in sex acts of different varieties.

If someone engages in homosexuality, for example, it doesn't make them a... homosexual, imo.

It makes them a person, like all people, who is going into a certain act.

[Bizzarofelice]

do you consider the eating of oysters to be moral and the eating of snails to be immoral?

[trev]

So, if children play doctor with same gender children, does that make them gay/lesbian?

[War Wagon]

Just so I understand, you have no problem with the notion that when your daughter was 14, 15 years old, you thought it perfectly acceptable for middle-aged men to be having lustful thoughts about her.

ah... the equivalency test. How droll.

jim, I have way more to be concerned about than what people may be thinking.

My daughter is 24, about to get her masters degree in sports management next week. I wish you good luck in raising your daughter but try not to get too verklempt over what somebody may be thinking.

[Screw_Michigan]

masters degree in sports management

What's her plan?

[mvscal]

masters degree in sports management

What's her plan?

Lick a whole parade of hairless twat like every other dyke softball and basketball coach.

[War Wagon]

masters degree in sports management

What's her plan?

45k a year to start, start paying her own fucking cell phone bill.

actually, that 2nd part is my plan.

[poptart]

So, if children play doctor with same gender children, does that make them gay/lesbian?

No.

If a boy was a homosexual he would have been born with a gaping asshole and an over-sized mouth.

People are born for heterosexual action, undeniably.


Trev, if a person wants to say, "Oh, Steve? He is a homosexual...," etc, they are allowing themself to be drawn into the flow of indoctrination which wants to train people to think that we are born with a certain sexuality... and that's just that.

There is no doubt that people are drawn to certain sexual actions.
Of course.
They want those actions.

Some folks want homo action.
Some folks want pedo action.

If the pedophile is born a pedophile, then how can we as a society criminalize his actions?

Jerry Sandusky is what he is.
He is what he was born.

Punishing him for what he is isn't making any sense.


We're all born for hetero action.

[trev]

No, I think sex with a child is not the same as 2 consenting adults. AT ALL. One is a crime, one is not.

[poptart]

Trev, you don't deny that some people have a sexual desire for kids, do you?
We are born with our sexuality, we are told.

Sandusky is not a criminal.

If anything, he is a victim.

God made them that way, how about that?

God created...

Genesis 2:24
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and
shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

I recommend you read Genesis Chapter 3 and see what has happened.

[bradhusker]

Do you have a daughter?

yup. 20 year old.

what of it?

Besides coming across as a pedo, as a father you might want to consider that your daughter was 15 once and how would you feel if a guy your age was having nut-busting thoughts about her?

Hey jim? If you are a male, and a fuckin hot 15 yr old doesnt catch your eye? YOUR A FAG!!!

Doesnt mean you will ever EVER act on it. BUT, if you are normal, she will catch your eye.

Thats basic human psychology and biology. We cant help but look, WE HAVE A DICK AND BALLS.

The difference between a pedo and us? They act on it, we dont.

I hope that clears things up for you, you extremely dumb sissy fag.

[bradhusker]

churchladyinphilly

thoughts are harmless, it's actions that get you in trouble.

and if you try to tell me that you've never lusted after an underage chick, I'll call you a liar or a fag or both

RAAAACK War. He's either a fag or a liar, or BOTH. Most fags are liars and sick fucks as well.

[Diego in Seattle]

So Pastortart wants to argue from the angle that sexuality is a choice.....

So please tell us, Poptard...where in the 14th Amendment of the Constitution that rights & privileges are based on gender or sexuality? Where does it say that heteroes shall be given full rights & gay/lesbians shall not? Where is that choice established as the criteria for rights?