something classy for you slopes

[War Wagon]

Lord knows Sam has tried and failed.

[War Wagon]

I'll see your raise...

[War Wagon]

see it? Hell, I'll double it.

I would so marry that 2nd violin player.

[War Wagon]

nice tune, but it would've been better with a video attached.

[Jay in Phoenix]

Yeah yeah, I know this is all about "classy". Still, how about something...CLASSIC.

[Jay in Phoenix]

And of course, as there are beginnings, so must there be endings:

[War Wagon]

Now wait just a damn minute, Jay. You're one of the guys who naively compared early Beatles mania to Justin Bieber. I'll never let you off the hook for that.

Be that as it may, this is a more appropriate "ending" for John, Paul, George and Ringo

[Jay in Phoenix]

Now wait just a damn minute, Jay. You're one of the guys who naively compared early Beatles mania to Justin Bieber. I'll never let you off the hook for that.

Be that as it may, this is a more appropriate "ending" for John, Paul, George and Ringo

A couple of points here Wags. First, "Let it Be" is the name of the song, album and film. It also stands as a viable metaphor for the ending of the Beatles. If you were going to go with an upbeat, "happy" ending, then their performance of "Get Back", complete with ad-libs from Paul and John would be the way to go. "I'd like to say 'thank you' on behalf of the group and ourselves, and I hope we passed the audition!" is one of Lennon's all-time great lines. Each and every song from that rooftop jam was fun and fitting as a nice capper to their live career. When Paul sings, "And when the broken hearted people living in the world agree, there will be an answer, let it be. For though they may be parted, there is still a chance that they will see, there will be an answer, let it be..." it sums up the living spirit of the Beatles and their music even though time and circumstance have ripped them apart. There is a reason that song was chosen as the standard bearer for their ending. Of course, the song that closes 'Abbey Road', which is chronologically their final album, is "The End".

In his 1980 interview with Playboy, John Lennon acknowledged McCartney's authorship by saying, "That's Paul again ... He had a line in it, 'And in the end, the love you get is equal to the love you give,' which is a very cosmic, philosophical line. Which again proves that if he wants to, he can think." Lennon misquoted the line; the actual words are, "And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make." A backhanded and somewhat caustic compliment to be sure, but by then, the distance and damage between them was irreparable.

Which brings me to my second point. You say you won't forgive me for the contrast between the Biebs and the Beats. Fair enough, as I don't require or have any need for forgiveness. The point ML and I made, I still stand by. There's no need to rehash it. Suffice it say however, that if I didn't have a love and respect for the Beatles that at the very least rivals your own, if not far surpasses it, I wouldn't spend as much time discussing them with you as I do. You wish to view them through rose colored, psychedelic glasses. Fine. I think it's better to view them with a full and honest perspective, warts and all. It allows for a richer and more satisfying, enlightened approach to the Beatles as individual, fallible human beings, as well as creative geniuses. It gives their music and careers more subtext.

One final time, with feeling. The contrast between J.B. and his media-manufactured, shallow teeny-bopper existence and the Beatles very, very brief time wearing a boy-band type image, was just that. Brief. In the scope of things, inconsequential. It's just that ignoring it doesn't make it go away. It happened. For a blink of an eye, they were pop-candy. Extremely brilliant candy, better than any other, but similar in some aspect. Deal with it Wags. Or not. I've vented and I'm done.

Now let's finish this post the right way, with a song. One of my all time favorites. And an appropriate one.

[War Wagon]

Well now, those are some nice words, sentences and paragraphs you typeth there Jay. We'll have to agree to disagree with the Beiber analogies (even though they offend me greatly) but I won't keep beating on that nag.

and while I certainly didn't intend to have a Beatles rank 'em thread going on here... I was going to say Dear Prudence, but then I remembered Smackie Chan's favorite Beatles tune. I can't possibly pick a Beatles fav, anymore than I could pick a Zep fav. Anyways, Smackie isn't wrong about much that I know of.





Lennon said this was his favorite.

[Dr_Phibes]

:brad: