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Well, Oakland won't be mathematically eliminated for a few weeks, so I may as well offer a take on their Monday nighter -- while it supposedly still has meaning.

T. Pryor's running ability opens up some more things for McFadden.
And since McFadden isn't hurt yet, I think it might be possible for the Raiders to chew up some yds and clock on Dungver.
I'd take the under in this game, jmo.

Pryor hasn't done squat throwing the ball downfield, but he also hasn't been a young guy who's gotten real careless with the ball.
So I'm hoping this trend continues -- because if he turns the ball over early, the route could be on.

The Raiders currently lead the league in sacks, but it's been done with various blitz packages.
Manning is Manning, and he's had a nice little career out of making a blitzing defense HURT.
It will be interesting to see what develops here.

I say the Raiders keep it close up until the half ---> and then Denver takes over and wins it late in the 3rd and then the 4th quarters.


Doinks win and keep pace with the Griefs. :)


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Mules up 17-0 in the 2nd quarter.

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Looks like Moving Sale on a Friday night.

A dwarf with a batman mask on -- and a helmet with a series of dildos on top?


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like I said, I want to wish teams the best of luck slowing that offense down.....
so many weapons at his disposal, Manning must be like a kid in a candy store......

how welker fell into the broncos laps is still beyond me.....
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Because offense wins Super Bowls....right?
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In this era, it's been show that it can.

2006: Indy was 21st in defense but 3rd in offense
2009: N.O. was 25th in defense but 1st in offense
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Screw_Michigan wrote:Because offense wins Super Bowls....right?
offense does win Super Bowls......

btw, denver's defense is currently ranked 19th, but they're missing two key guys.....when miller and bailey make it back, they'll be better....
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I'm surprised he made it out alive.....no, when denver wins, their fans are pretty decent, when they lose, they're assholes.....
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Felix wrote:no, when denver wins, their fans are pretty decent, when they lose, they're assholes.....
Naw. They're pretty much assholes win or lose. Dud fan had a very long walk of shame back to his ride...assuming he made it one piece.
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poptart wrote:In this era, it's been show that it can.

2006: Indy was 21st in defense but 3rd in offense
2009: N.O. was 25th in defense but 1st in offense
I'd put Dungver's two SB winning teams in there also. That was a pretty fucking potent offense. Smith and MacCaffery outside, Sharpe at tight end, TD in the backfield and Mr. Ed calling the shots. They were a very tough team to defend. Good enough to make The Rat look like a genius for a brief moment. Funny how that works.

Manning is playing a different game than everyone else on the field right now, though. I guess the so called "nerve damage" in his arm wasn't nearly as bad as reported. He's in the sweet spot of his career where his physical skills haven't yet diminished and his intellectual mastery of the game is complete.

It's going to be a looong regular season. They'll shit the bed in the playoffs, though.
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Manning is playing a different game than everyone else on the field right now, though. I guess the so called "nerve damage" in his arm wasn't nearly as bad as reported. He's in the sweet spot of his career where his physical skills haven't yet diminished and his intellectual mastery of the game is complete.
I don't know if there's a QB playing that can read defenses better than he can.....
It's going to be a looong regular season.
like I said the loss of Clady was huge.....the guy allowed one sack last year, and it was only because one of the other olinemen knocked him off the guy he was blocking.....that hit Manning took from the blindside on Monday is my biggest fear....

but if the offense makes it through the season relatively unscathed, I don't know who can beat them.....
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KC and Dungver don't match up until week 11 and then again in week 13... quite the scheduling quirk.

Wait until Tamba Hali, Dontari Poe and Justin Houston get after Peyton before you start hoisting that trophy.
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War Wagon wrote:Wait until Tamba Hali... get after Peyton before you start hoisting that trophy.

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Today Romo showed Manning how to play some QB. 506 yards passing and 5 TDs if you need him. Just shredded through that overrated Bronco D with ease. I've been telling people that Denver isn't this unstoppable juggernaut. That defense sucks and the Dallas defense is not good as pass defense right now but if they meet again in the Super Bowl the Cowboys take em. The Broncos still have tough division games to play and I don't think that they are that great. Plus the Dallas weapons were on display today and they didn't even have Miles.
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Meet in the Super Bowl? Dallas will be lucky to win the division...and it's a shit division. Their defense is god awful.
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Yer a Fuckin Jerkoff wrote:Today Romo showed Manning how to play some QB.
I'm sure Peyton found that lesson on how to throw the ball to the other team to lose the game rather invaluable.
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KC Scott wrote:
Romo played pretty good, till as usual, he choked up that final INT

Contrary yo YAFJ's belief, you just can't teach that. It's a natural talent he has.
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It's true. The Denver Broncos are a faggot team. They're fucking everybody up the ass.
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KC Scott wrote:Romo played pretty good, till as usual, he choked up that final INT
Bullshit. That was just an incredible play by Trevathan.
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KC Scott wrote:
See DeMarco Muarry standing there with no one around him?

That was the correct read, not throwing into double coverage

as dins said, romo has a real talent at making the wrong decisions during critical points of the game.....the cowboys were making mince meat out of denvers secondary.....but as is the norm, romo tries to fit the ball into a window so tight the pass would have to be absolutely perfect and thrown with some serious velocity.....it was 2nd and 16, and I think Murray would have probably gained 7 or 8 yards, making it a much more manageable 3rd down......the check down should have been to murray....escobar was in man coverage, but there were two other coverage guys within feet of escobar.....but it was a great play by Trevathan
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KC Scott wrote:
mvscal wrote:
KC Scott wrote:Romo played pretty good, till as usual, he choked up that final INT
Bullshit. That was just an incredible play by Trevathan.
Once again your lack of football knowledge rears it's ugly head

The correct QB read was Denver was playing under coverage on Whitten with a S over the top - so check down

See DeMarco Muarry standing there with no one around him?

That was the correct read, not throwing into double coverage

Nobody said anything about his read, dumbfuck. His throw was there. It took a spectacular diving play to make that pick.
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Well, fuck. I'm sure he'd be able to make the "right read" with the benefit of hindsight. Who couldn't? In the meantime, the throw he actually made was not a bad or dumb throw. The pick was a great defensive play.
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Unless you want to throw hindsight into the mix, Romo didn't make the wrong read. He made a bad throw.

Read progression isn't looking through all your routes and then choosing the best one. There's rarely time for that and, in Romo's case after being repeatedly sacked, knocked down and hurried, there absolutely wasn't. Read progression ends with the first viable option to move the ball down the field. While his wasn't the best read, it's not the wrong one. Watch the all-22 feed enough, and you'll see that all 32 QBs frequently don't make the best read available, particularly when facing pressure most of the day. Considering Romo's been sacked 13 times already after five weeks and is being put on his ass on almost every pass play, it's safe to say he's not getting enough time to get through his progression ... ESPECIALLY when that better read is the check-down, typically the final read and safety valve.

Far too easy to grab the low-hanging fruit and point fingers, though.

Would Murray have been a better option in hindsight? Of course, but it doesn't make his read wrong. A better throw doesn't give Travathan a chance to make that diving pick. Despite the perspective of the sideline video, the far-side cornerback isn't a part of the play and moving down the field.

You're not entirely wrong here, but it's Romo's arm that failed him, not his decision-making.

That said, the Cowboys have failed Romo much more than he has failed the franchise, and things aren't changing. In an earlier post, I defended Alex Smith's role with Kansas City as a good fit, the right player in the right system.

In Dallas, Romo is afforded no such luxury. He plays well, they typically win. A single mistake, and they lose in epic fashion.

Think about the Denver game for a moment.

51 points … and all the talking heads can do is blame Romo for a poorly-timed interception.

Seriously? Run the ball only 14 times, put it on Romo and let's win a shootout on the last drive of the game.

This is on Kiffin and Garrett.

Dallas sucks. Plain and simple. Blame Romo if you like, but he's the only reason they're competitive right now. Stick Alex Smith back there, and this team doesn't have a win (wrong player. wrong system).
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The fact he's on a fantasy team is a straw man, save for the fact I pay more attention to Dallas this season than I'd probably like to.

Despite the fact we seem to be debating the mere degrees of Romo's gaffe, my comments stand. I don't fault his read progression as much as I do the shit throw on that play. Considering the outcome, the check-down to Murray is an easy call after the fact and low-hanging fruit for the media and T1B pile-on.

That pass lands a mere foot to the right, and not only are we not having this conversation, we're likely praising Romo for outplaying Manning at his own game.

Of course, that's assuming Romo doesn't fumble the very next snap.
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KC Scott wrote:I can't see the defensive set in the vid,
So how the fuck would you know he made the wrong READ?
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But you didn't see the pre-snap set by your own admission....or are you attempting to suggest that defensives don't disguise their coverage?

You can stop anytime now. You aren't impressing anybody with your pretend coaching acumen.
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KC Scott wrote:because he threw into over 2 coverage with the LB draped all over Witten
Not really. It looked like Whitten had a step on him when Romo pulled the trigger. The guy just made a great play. Simple as that.
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It was a great play by the LB but also a bad decision to try to thread the needle with three defenders in the area.

It can be both.
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Here's the deal -- Scott's right, those doubting him are wrong. The proof is in the pudding, so to speak.

Dude got tunnel vision, and ignored the wide open RB right in front of him to throw into double coverage. The proper read (which there's no excuse for not making) results in a very nice gain - there was probably a block or two to be had.
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Denver's defense just got a lot better with the return of Von Miller, who weighs 15 pounds more than he did last year, but doesn't seem to have lost any speed.....Andrew Luck should be very nervous....
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Felix wrote:Von Miller, who weighs 15 pounds more than he did last year, but doesn't seem to have lost any speed

Gee, wonder how that happened?
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Dinsdale wrote: Gee, wonder how that happened?
it wasn't HGH if that's what you're implying....he's worked out since the original suspension with bronco trainers and nutritionists in an effort to put on some additional pounds without losing any speed.....

his original suspension was not for using performance enhancement drugs or human growth hormones.....apparently Von likes to smoke reefer and he knew if he tested positive he was going to be suspended for four games.....the reason they bumped it to six was because he tried to pass off another person's urine sample as his own......
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Felix wrote:his original suspension was not for using performance enhancement drugs or human growth hormones.....apparently Von likes to smoke reefer and he knew if he tested positive he was going to be suspended for four games.....the reason they bumped it to six was because he tried to pass off another person's urine sample as his own......
Is that what he told you?
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mvscal wrote:Is that what he told you?
that's what every news report reported.....

http://deadspin.com/why-von-miller-is-f ... 1166657725

in his rookie year he tested positive for amphetamines and marijuana....the amphetamine was likely something like Adderall or some other drug used to treat ADHD because they're so easy to get......so he entered Stage One of the NFL's Intervention Staging program in which players who've tested positive are subject to additional testing and the NFL formulates a treatment plan and the players must comply with the terms of the treatment plan...players cannot be disciplined in Stage One.....

whether or not they comply with Stage One,they enter Stage Two...in Stage Two, discipline is doled out.....if the player completes Stage One successfully, they are fined an amount that equals four games pay....if they don't complete Stage One successfully, they are subject to a four-game suspension....the NFL policy states
NFL rules wrote:if the player fails to comply with his Treatment Plan or fails to cooperate with testing, treatment, evaluation or other requirements imposed on him by this policy, both as determined by the Medical Director, or has a positive test
an NFL source told a Denver Post reporter the violation in question was not the result of a sample testing positive for a PED or recreational drug.....as noted, in Stage Two a player can face suspension for missed tests or counseling sessions, an altered test or behavioral issues....according an ESPN report the collector just wanted to be Millers buddy
Sources said the collector worked in Miami, where Miller spends offseason time, and the collector reveled in knowing the Broncos linebacker while being, according to a source, "star struck." It led, sources said, to the collector's willingness to substitute another person's urine specimen for Miller's. It might have worked, sources said, had a second collector not discovered that Miller was not in the city where his collection was supposed to have taken place.
his test failure was because he tried to use someone else's piss, not because he tested positive for anything....most reporters in Denver speculate that Miller's urine would have tested positive for reefer, thus he would have been suspended for eight games for a second positive.....by trying to circumvent the testing system, he received a six game suspension which cost him about $810,000 in salary....NFL substance-abuse policy requires Miller to repay 6/17th of the bonus allocation for 2013....his original signing bonus was $13.773 million and an allocation per year of $3,443,250, so he forfeited $1.2 of his signing bonus....all told his six game suspension cost him over 2 million dollars......because he tested positive in his rookie year, he's subject to random testing anytime the NFL wants to, so the idea of Miller using HGH or any other PED is fucking laughable.....if he tested positive for any kind of performance enhancing drug or recreational drug, that would be a third violation and he'd face at minimum a full years suspension, without pay......
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Serious question, Felix -- are you fucking retarded?

No, seriously.

That was one massive ball of stupid you just rolled.

So, dude gets busted for using PEDs right out of his career gate, so... and I'm having a really hard time wrapping my brain around this, since I'm not fucking retarded...

So since he's been busted once for PEDs, that makes it a logical impossibility he used them again?


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It's OK.

The source for Miller's weight gain and quickness retention appears to be, well ... Miller.

Muscle, my ass. Fatty is doing pre-emptive damage control.
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Dinsdale wrote:Serious question, Felix -- are you fucking retarded?

No, seriously.

That was one massive ball of stupid you just rolled.

So, dude gets busted for using PEDs right out of his career gate, so... and I'm having a really hard time wrapping my brain around this, since I'm not fucking retarded...

So since he's been busted once for PEDs, that makes it a logical impossibility he used them again?
he wasn't busted for PED's unless you consider something like adderall to be a PED (the NFL doesn't, they consider it a recreational drug).....as I said, having been busted and failing a second time, the NFL can test him anytime they want and I'm guessing they probably have him piss into a cup about every other day......if he comes up positive again, he'd be out for a year....do you really think Miller is willing to risk a year's suspension and the loss of about 6 million dollars for another positive test?

according to the news report, the weight gain was with the help of Denver conditioning people and nutritionists....I find it hard to believe they'd be encouraging him to add HGH or some type of steroid to supplement his diet......

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nf ... k/3008943/

but you seem to be the expert on the Bronco's and on Miller, so I guess you know something I don't....

seriously, you're not that stupid are you?
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2003 Chiefs have reunited and now play in Denver. 13-3, then one and done.
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kcdave wrote:2003 Chiefs have reunited and now play in Denver. 13-3, then one and done
Actually it sounds more like the 2012 Broncos have reunited...oh wait, they did.

One and done is right but not because of the defense. Their problem is a gutted offensive line. Even Peyton Manning needs a little more than 1.5 seconds to unload the ball.

Only Nick Felchco can unload balls faster than that.
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Yeah, I didn't see much of that game, but the little I did see, Denver's o-line was getting blown up and Manning was taking shot after shot. It was a wonder he even finished the game.
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mvscal wrote: Only Nick Felchco can unload balls faster than that.
Jesus H. Christ.
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