Got my first trip coming up to Birmingham...
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Got my first trip coming up to Birmingham...
Birmingham is one of the airports that can keep pilots tense all the way to the terminal. It is famous/infamous for its strong crosswinds, plus the fact that the runway undulates down its entire length.
Over the next week I will be making a few trips from Tucson to Birmingham in the left seat of a G550. The thing that makes the landings even more difficult is the length of this trip and the daylight to night back to daylight.
Here are a few clips of commercial airliners struggling in crosswinds at BHX just a few days ago. Forecast for now is much of the same.
777 goes around at the last minute:
Notice the flex of the right wing and the 20 degree crab angle to the runway.
Then there is this airbus A320. Dude prolly got a call from the chief pilot on this landing. I likely would have called for TOGA at least three times in this approach and possibly even a fourth time. Skip ahead to the :45 second mark.
Go back and watch that one again. At the 1:37 mark he is making a major correction and has it stable again at the 1:40 mark. Problem is he has now stopped descending and is over the piano keys and about to pass the touchdown point. TOGA power man and try it again.
At the 1:45 mark he finally gets the nose down but has used maybe a fifth of the runway at this point.
At the 1:47 mark he starts to drift left and by 1:48 he is completely left of the center line. TOGA power man and try it again.
Also at 1:48 he compresses the right main strut to its max while the right and nose are still off the ground.
At the 1:50 mark he is flying again. TOGA power man, you survived.
He finally gets it down shortly thereafter.
Here are a couple more, some better than others:
Got to say this series of trips has Seater a little more worked up than normal. Pucker factor likely will be pretty high if the winds are as predicted.
Any of you ever look straight down a runway while landing despite sitting near the wing?
Over the next week I will be making a few trips from Tucson to Birmingham in the left seat of a G550. The thing that makes the landings even more difficult is the length of this trip and the daylight to night back to daylight.
Here are a few clips of commercial airliners struggling in crosswinds at BHX just a few days ago. Forecast for now is much of the same.
777 goes around at the last minute:
Notice the flex of the right wing and the 20 degree crab angle to the runway.
Then there is this airbus A320. Dude prolly got a call from the chief pilot on this landing. I likely would have called for TOGA at least three times in this approach and possibly even a fourth time. Skip ahead to the :45 second mark.
Go back and watch that one again. At the 1:37 mark he is making a major correction and has it stable again at the 1:40 mark. Problem is he has now stopped descending and is over the piano keys and about to pass the touchdown point. TOGA power man and try it again.
At the 1:45 mark he finally gets the nose down but has used maybe a fifth of the runway at this point.
At the 1:47 mark he starts to drift left and by 1:48 he is completely left of the center line. TOGA power man and try it again.
Also at 1:48 he compresses the right main strut to its max while the right and nose are still off the ground.
At the 1:50 mark he is flying again. TOGA power man, you survived.
He finally gets it down shortly thereafter.
Here are a couple more, some better than others:
Got to say this series of trips has Seater a little more worked up than normal. Pucker factor likely will be pretty high if the winds are as predicted.
Any of you ever look straight down a runway while landing despite sitting near the wing?
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Re: Got my first trip coming up to Birmingham...
Strange.
I discovered this site today:
www.flightradar24.com and have been strangely addicted to it all day. The landings from above put things in a different perspective.
I discovered this site today:
www.flightradar24.com and have been strangely addicted to it all day. The landings from above put things in a different perspective.
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Re: Got my first trip coming up to Birmingham...
Have you been able to get into a G650 yet?
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Re: Got my first trip coming up to Birmingham...
Diego in Seattle wrote:Have you been able to get into a G650 yet?
Now that's just rude...
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You mean it's like asking Spray if he's been able to get into a C-130?Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:Diego in Seattle wrote:Have you been able to get into a G650 yet?
Now that's just rude...
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Sure, he's a little "doughy" in the middle...
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Re: Got my first trip coming up to Birmingham...
Quit whining fucking pussy.
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Re: Got my first trip coming up to Birmingham...
88,
Who knows. The Brits seem to love their crappy airport facilities. LHR could use two new runways, London City needs more room, etc, etc, etc.
Diego,
I have been in two of them. I have yet to fly one, but as they continue to deliver more it will happen.
Jim,
I have the pro version of that on my iPad. It is very cool in that you can point your iPad at any non military plane and it will tell you operator, origin, destination, etc.
Jerk,
A little healthy respect for the conditions isn't whining. But you can call it whatever you like. Here's hoping your next flight has a pilot who isn't complacent.
Who knows. The Brits seem to love their crappy airport facilities. LHR could use two new runways, London City needs more room, etc, etc, etc.
Diego,
I have been in two of them. I have yet to fly one, but as they continue to deliver more it will happen.
Jim,
I have the pro version of that on my iPad. It is very cool in that you can point your iPad at any non military plane and it will tell you operator, origin, destination, etc.
Jerk,
A little healthy respect for the conditions isn't whining. But you can call it whatever you like. Here's hoping your next flight has a pilot who isn't complacent.
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Re: Got my first trip coming up to Birmingham...
That's some shaky shit.
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FTFYLeft Seater wrote:Jerk,
A little healthy respect for the conditions isn't whining. But you can call it whatever you like. Here's hoping your next flight has a pilot who isn't coherent.
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Re: Got my first trip coming up to Birmingham...
That's some shaky shit.
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Hopefully all seat backs and tray tables were in their full upright position.
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Hopefully all seat backs and tray tables were in their full upright position.
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poptart wrote:That's some shaky shit.
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Hopefully all seat backs and tray tables were in their full upright position.
Those kind of landings are the ones where overhead bins and tray tables might open up.
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Re: Got my first trip coming up to Birmingham...
Will the 550 make tucson to birmingham in one hop? That's pertty good range for a bidness jet.
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Re: Got my first trip coming up to Birmingham...
smackaholic wrote:Will the 550 make tucson to birmingham in one hop? That's pertty good range for a bidness jet.
Yes, the plane has the range to make it easily. Granted this is a theoretical map, but still gives a good idea of the range. Granted, winds, weight, ATC routings will all play a factor in the actual distance.
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